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Title: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: New Hank Wood on August 14, 2008, 03:28:25 PM
Branch is out of the Olympia.  Yes, he has torn his tricep.

Can Branch make a comeback?  He just seems to injure himself so easily these days.

Branch is his own worst enemy.  He trains super heavy. He feels that he always has prove himself.  Quite sad really.
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: Stark on August 14, 2008, 03:29:18 PM
no this is sad :D

http://www.vidmax.com/video/6931/Guy_loves_singing_songs_with_little_boys___but_gets_a_little_bit_too_close/
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on August 14, 2008, 03:31:10 PM
It is sad dude
Branch is in the prime of his career, his opportunity to earn the big bucks have evaporated.

Shame
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: New Hank Wood on August 14, 2008, 03:34:28 PM
I just can't see Branch doing much more in his career.  His body is so beat up. 

I just hate to think the amount of painkillers he uses just to get through each day.

Yes, Branch is an 'iron warrior', however, he has paid the heaviest of prices to be bestowed with what is a pretty meaningless title.
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: BayGBM on August 14, 2008, 03:39:53 PM
It is sad dude
Branch is in the prime of his career, his opportunity to earn the big bucks have evaporated.

Shame

There is always G4P/private posing.  :D
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: JohnnyVegas on August 14, 2008, 03:42:27 PM
There is always G4P/private posing.  :D



He said "big bucks" and somehow I dont think G4P bring in the big bucks  ::)
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: New Hank Wood on August 14, 2008, 03:43:21 PM
Branch was obsessed with lifting heavy.  He always had to out lift everyone.  Well, now he has learnt his lesson the hard way.  He basically just another broken down bodybuilding.  

Branch will now have to go out and get a 'real' job.  Just don't know what he capable of doing though.  He lives with so much daily pain it must be difficult to even think straight.

Branch=failed gym hero.

Branch should have lifted 'smart' but chose to lift heavydumb!
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: Stark on August 14, 2008, 03:45:47 PM
There is always G4P/private posing.  :D

hahah you sound like a vulture waiting for the now Pro's to fail and to fall far down to g4p :D right in your
open hugging arms :D
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: BayGBM on August 14, 2008, 03:49:04 PM


He said "big bucks" and somehow I dont think G4P bring in the big bucks  ::)

There are no big bucks in body building, period.  But if I were his manager, I bet could get him 2-4 grand a session.  :D
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on August 14, 2008, 03:49:10 PM
I just can't see Branch doing much more in his career.  His body is so beat up. 

I just hate to think the amount of painkillers he uses just to get through each day.

Yes, Branch is an 'iron warrior', however, he has paid the heaviest of prices to be bestowed with what is a pretty meaningless title.

people dont give him enough credit in my opinion
Branch not only has the balls to the walls mentality but hes not like other bodybuilders, he's never bought the flash cars or used the temporary success to live the flamboyant lifestyle like most top bodybuilders.

Everything he has earnt in the bodybuilding industry has been reinvested into his business, I think its some kind of a shipping, transport goods company.
He realises his competitor lifespan will only last so long....Now take in contrast a Vince Taylor who has to go back to the stage because he can't pay the bills.
Branch won't go down that path because like a Shawn Ray or a Lee Labrada he's smart and knows there is a life after bodybuilding.
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: _bruce_ on August 14, 2008, 03:49:39 PM
Well Hank, he has his own shipping business and a gym.
Tricep will get fixed and Branch will be in for another tear all the while competing in between  :D
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: BayGBM on August 14, 2008, 03:50:48 PM
hahah you sound like a vulture waiting for the now Pro's to fail and to fall far down to g4p :D right in your
open hugging arms :D

For what it's worth bodybuilders usually go the G4P route on their way up... not on their way down.
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: S_Samuel on August 14, 2008, 03:51:35 PM
Branch was obsessed with lifting heavy.  He always had to out lift everyone.  Well, now he has learnt his lesson the hard way.  He basically just another broken down bodybuilding.  

Branch will now have to go out and get a 'real' job.  Just don't know what he capable of doing though.  He lives with so much daily pain it must be difficult to even think straight.

Branch=failed gym hero.

Branch should have lifted 'smart' but chose to lift heavydumb!

Branch OWNS a shipping company i believe. Looks like youll have to find another bber for your g4p sessions.
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: bigdumbbell on August 14, 2008, 03:54:24 PM
shipping company?
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: _bruce_ on August 14, 2008, 03:55:19 PM
shipping company?

Boar dildos and such...
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: QuakerOats on August 14, 2008, 03:55:55 PM
Branch is out of the Olympia.  Yes, he has torn his tricep.

Can Branch make a comeback?  He just seems to injure himself so easily these days.

Branch is his own worst enemy.  He trains super heavy. He feels that he always has prove himself.  Quite sad really.
yeah HOW DARE HE work hard and train heavy? who does he think he is, some kind of real man who puts in a lot of effort and sweat? the nerve of some people. ::)
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: New Hank Wood on August 14, 2008, 03:56:33 PM
I just feel sorry for the guy.  Always possessed this desperated and childish desire to be the strongest mofo going around!  Gee, the guy needs to grow up and get some perspective.

And yeah, with his serious long term injuries and potential organ damage he will have to resign himself to a lifetime of medication.  

Driving one of his trucks may prove to be very difficult for a man with such long term physical disabilties.

Anyway good luck to him, seems like a simple yet friendly dude.  

Always hated his grainy, sickly appearance though.
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: S_Samuel on August 14, 2008, 04:01:05 PM
shipping company?

Yeah he's got some shipping business down in Texas, i'm not sure the name though. Here's a video on MD where he shows his house and business to Dave Palumbo.
Branch is a real man who gets shit done in and out of the gym. I respect any bodybuilder that trains hard day in day out. Here's the links...

http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/content/view/1388/162/
http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/content/view/1389/162/
http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/content/view/1390/162/
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: vinnyvee on August 14, 2008, 04:02:13 PM
Well Hank, he has his own shipping business and a gym.
Tricep will get fixed and Branch will be in for another tear all the while competing in between  :D


Oh Branch is no idiot. He has built other things that generate revenue for him and his family. If bbing is done I'm sure he'll be fine.
 8)
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: QuakerOats on August 14, 2008, 04:02:52 PM
Yeah he's got some shipping business down in Texas, i'm not sure the name though. Here's a video on MD where he shows his house and business to Dave Palumbo.
Branch is a real man who gets shit done in and out of the gym. I respect any bodybuilder that trains hard day in day out. Here's the links...

http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/content/view/1388/162/
http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/content/view/1389/162/
http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/content/view/1390/162/
i agree, he actually seems like a pretty humble nice guy out of the gym, very intense in the gym, very hard worker.
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: S_Samuel on August 14, 2008, 04:06:49 PM
i agree, he actually seems like a pretty humble nice guy out of the gym, very intense in the gym, very hard worker.

Yep... you can tell the guy just loves to train heavy. I'm the same way, I could never go to the gym just to get a "pump" and use light weight.
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: GigantorX on August 14, 2008, 04:14:37 PM

Oh Branch is no idiot. He has built other things that generate revenue for him and his family. If bbing is done I'm sure he'll be fine.
 8)

Don't we always find ourselves saying this very thing? Only to have these real "smart" BBer's with "a side business" show back up for a "comeback" years down the road? Good grief.
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: bigguns23 on August 14, 2008, 04:37:21 PM
Branch is out of the Olympia.  Yes, he has torn his tricep.

Can Branch make a comeback?  He just seems to injure himself so easily these days.

Branch is his own worst enemy.  He trains super heavy. He feels that he always has prove himself.  Quite sad really.




Bitch, Branch will fuck u up :D
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: spinnis on August 14, 2008, 04:38:38 PM
Don't we always find ourselves saying this very thing? Only to have these real "smart" BBer's with "a side business" show back up for a "comeback" years down the road? Good grief.

Branch owns a few buisnesses that are doing Great though =)
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: Moosejay on August 14, 2008, 04:39:40 PM
people dont give him enough credit in my opinion
Branch not only has the balls to the walls mentality but hes not like other bodybuilders, he's never bought the flash cars or used the temporary success to live the flamboyant lifestyle like most top bodybuilders.

Everything he has earnt in the bodybuilding industry has been reinvested into his business, I think its some kind of a shipping, transport goods company.
He realises his competitor lifespan will only last so long....Now take in contrast a Vince Taylor who has to go back to the stage because he can't pay the bills.
Branch won't go down that path because like a Shawn Ray or a Lee Labrada he's smart and knows there is a life after bodybuilding.

Very true Post.

Someone like Vince Taylor should sriously get a job with, like, UPS or something similar. Back to bodybuilding to secure a good future? That's utterly ludicrous.
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: Moosejay on August 14, 2008, 04:40:24 PM
Branch owns a few buisnesses that are doing Great though =)

I have always heard this.

Just what are his businesses, the nature of them, I mean?
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on August 14, 2008, 04:40:39 PM
Branch is out of the Olympia.  Yes, he has torn his tricep.

Can Branch make a comeback?  He just seems to injure himself so easily these days.

Branch is his own worst enemy.  He trains super heavy. He feels that he always has prove himself.  Quite sad really.

Isn't Branch like 5'1" or something?  Maybe he could get a cameo in the Wizard of Oz on Broadway?
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: spinnis on August 14, 2008, 04:50:59 PM
I have always heard this.

Just what are his businesses, the nature of them, I mean?

http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/content/view/1388/162/

http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/content/view/1389/162/

http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/content/view/1389/162/
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: marcus on August 14, 2008, 05:04:40 PM
That's what his third torn muscle?  ::)
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: marcus on August 14, 2008, 05:08:28 PM
And wtf is up with this dildo mic?
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: BayGBM on August 14, 2008, 05:17:00 PM
And wtf is up with this dildo mic?

 ;D

Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: Zaphod on August 14, 2008, 06:53:25 PM
Isn't Branch like 5'1" or something?  Maybe he could get a cameo in the Wizard of Oz on Broadway?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: Stark on August 14, 2008, 07:15:34 PM
For what it's worth bodybuilders usually go the G4P route on their way up... not on their way down.

you are usually on your way down before you die ;)
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: BayGBM on August 14, 2008, 07:16:48 PM
you are usually on your way down before you die ;)

Touché!
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: webcake on August 14, 2008, 07:18:05 PM
Hopefully he recovers well from this injury.

Branch is one of the good guys in bb'ing. Smart guy who makes a good living for himself. He definietly isn't like some of those other fools out there.
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: arce377 on August 14, 2008, 07:19:52 PM
  PED
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: Purple Aki on August 15, 2008, 02:49:50 AM
I just feel sorry for the guy.  Always possessed this desperated and childish desire to be the strongest mofo going around!  Gee, the guy needs to grow up and get some perspective.

And yeah, with his serious long term injuries and potential organ damage he will have to resign himself to a lifetime of medication.  

Driving one of his trucks may prove to be very difficult for a man with such long term physical disabilties.

Anyway good luck to him, seems like a simple yet friendly dude.  

Always hated his grainy, sickly appearance though.

Haha!
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: The Wizard on August 15, 2008, 02:56:43 AM
All done as a competive pro but has used his time wisely
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: New Hank Wood on August 15, 2008, 03:01:13 AM
Branch= crispy, crunchy, odious, mephitic, vituperative and 'always' injured.

He allegedly has a legitimate trucking business he can fall back on, if his dream of winning a Mr. O evaporates!
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: No Patience on August 15, 2008, 06:58:58 AM
Branch is out of the Olympia.  Yes, he has torn his tricep.

Can Branch make a comeback?  He just seems to injure himself so easily these days.

Branch is his own worst enemy.  He trains super heavy. He feels that he always has prove himself.  Quite sad really.

hahaha....he lifts heavy as fuck all the time and you say he injures himself so easily??

how much more obvious could it be that his career was going to end fast due to multiple injuries
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: phish on August 15, 2008, 07:23:37 AM
to sum up everything for people that dont wana read this whole thread branch is cool hank is tool.
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: SAMSON123 on August 15, 2008, 07:26:56 AM
Branch was obsessed with lifting heavy.  He always had to out lift everyone.  Well, now he has learnt his lesson the hard way.  He basically just another broken down bodybuilding.  

Branch will now have to go out and get a 'real' job.  Just don't know what he capable of doing though.  He lives with so much daily pain it must be difficult to even think straight.

Branch=failed gym hero.

Branch should have lifted 'smart' but chose to lift heavydumb!

Branch Warren has his own business...somethig i am glad to see. I hate seeing BB go on for years trying to win trophies which has no value and never thinking of what they are going to do after BB is over. Branch has a trucking/delivery business and should be fine if his BB career is over. Sad to see some of the greats living in poverty, doing personal training or being forced to go back into BB for the sake of money. BB should always invest or start a business while they are in good health and making money so that when the party train stops they won't end up in dire straits....
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: DeadSquatPress on August 15, 2008, 07:47:25 AM
much respect to branch
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: BayGBM on August 15, 2008, 07:56:24 AM
Branch Warren has his own business...somethig i am glad to see. I hate seeing BB go on for years trying to win trophies which has no value and never thinking of what they are going to do after BB is over. Branch has a trucking/delivery business and should be fine if his BB career is over. Sad to see some of the greats living in poverty, doing personal training or being forced to go back into BB for the sake of money. BB should always invest or start a business while they are in good health and making money so that when the party train stops they won't end up in dire straits....

Who has ever done this?  And done it successfully?  There isn't much money in BB when one is young and there is even less money in it when one is older so who are these former greats that are "going back into BB for the money"?  And how much money has anyone ever gotten with this "going back" strategy that people keep talking about?  ???

Michael Jordan is an example of someone who left his sport (following the death of his father) and then went back into it, but he obviously did it for the love of the game; no one would claim he went back "for the money."
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: JohnnyVegas on August 15, 2008, 08:15:28 AM
Branch Warren has his own business...somethig i am glad to see. I hate seeing BB go on for years trying to win trophies which has no value and never thinking of what they are going to do after BB is over. Branch has a trucking/delivery business and should be fine if his BB career is over. Sad to see some of the greats living in poverty, doing personal training or being forced to go back into BB for the sake of money. BB should always invest or start a business while they are in good health and making money so that when the party train stops they won't end up in dire straits....

Pro BBing is not a party train or a financial train-it is a road to poverty.

Always has been and always will be because the stupid ones are the pros (paying $200 a year for their "pro" card) and the smart ones are the ones raking in the dough off of their work.
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: SAMSON123 on August 15, 2008, 08:29:18 AM
Who has ever done this?  And done it successfully?  There isn't much money in BB when one is young and there is even less money in it when one is older so who are these former greats that are "going back into BB for the money"?  And how much money has anyone ever gotten with this "going back" strategy that people keep talking about?  ???

Michael Jordan is an example of someone who left his sport (following the death of his father) and then went back into it, but he obviously did it for the love of the game; no one would claim he went back "for the money."

Vince Taylor recently announced he is re-entering the sport becasue he needs money
Chris Cormier is trying to make a comeback after a serious sickness but is risking more than what there is to gain becasue he needs money
Don Long re-entered BB despite losing his kidneys and being on dialysis for the sake of money
Dennis Newman was trying to make a comeback about a year ago...I am not sure if he is still trying to , but again MONEY was the issue.

AND THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE PEOPLE I HAVE HEARD ABOUT...THERE MAYBE MANY MORE.

Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: BigBack on August 15, 2008, 08:36:34 AM
Hank..don't be an idiot.  Branch recently sold the gym, because his logistics company is growing so rapidly.  He is a highly successful businessman outside of bodybuilding already.  He and Jay (Cutler) are two reason I am sick of everyone feeling sorry for others,like Kai, who cry about barely scraping by.  They have proved that you can do other things, and live a bodybuilding lifestyle.  not bashing Kai, but don't complain so much..if you are just scraping by, get a damn job!!!
As for the tear, he is having surgery today, and will be fine, and be back with a vengeance.
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: BayGBM on August 15, 2008, 08:39:30 AM
Vince Taylor recently announced he is re-entering the sport becasue he needs money
Chris Cormier is trying to make a comeback after a serious sickness but is risking more than what there is to gain becasue he needs money
Don Long re-entered BB despite losing his kidneys and being on dialysis for the sake of money
Dennis Newman was trying to make a comeback about a year ago...I am not sure if he is still trying to , but again MONEY was the issue.

AND THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE PEOPLE I HAVE HEARD ABOUT...THERE MAYBE MANY MORE.



Fair enough.  They left and came back to bodybuilding... but did they really do it "for the money"?  How much money?  It's laughable that anyone would come (back) to this sport "for the money."  ::)

As near as I can tell Arnold is the only one who left competition only to return and win big again.  After a string of Olympia wins he walked away from competition in 1975 and came back to win the O again in 1980.
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: SAMSON123 on August 15, 2008, 08:48:56 AM
Fair enough.  They left and came back to bodybuilding... but did they really do it "for the money"?  How much money?  It's laughable that anyone would come (back) to this sport "for the money."  ::)

As near as I can tell Arnold is the only one who left competition only to return and win big again.  After a string of Olympia wins he walked away from competition in 1975 and came back to win the O again in 1980.

DAMN IT BAY ...I just said they ANNOUNCED they are returning because of the NEED FOR MONEY...this is not me saying it...IT IS THEM. These cases are not like what you are talking about where a BB takes a layoff and returns later because they enjoy the competition.

To me this is sad, because it says these men have never taken the time to learn or develop ANY OTHER ABILITIES and now being out of BB they find themselves LOST IN A WORLD OF TECHNOLOGY WHERE THEY DON'T FIT IN.

Reminds me of the movie THE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION and how long term prisoners once released find themselves in a world FOREIGN to them because they don't have any abilities, skills, talents to survive...so they end up deliberately committing a crime so that they can go back to jail or they end up committing suicide.
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: BM OUT on August 15, 2008, 09:08:50 AM
Branch was obsessed with lifting heavy.  He always had to out lift everyone.  Well, now he has learnt his lesson the hard way.  He basically just another broken down bodybuilding.  

Branch will now have to go out and get a 'real' job.  Just don't know what he capable of doing though.  He lives with so much daily pain it must be difficult to even think straight.

Branch=failed gym hero.


Oh brother.The guy owns a logistics wharehouse and a personal training studio and has done very well outside of bodybuilding.In fact,he says he banks all his bodybuilding money and lives off his "Real jobs".

Failed gym hero?Geeze the guy won three pro shows and was second at the Arnold including two most musculars.He has done more then anyone on here and he is a failed gym hero?

Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: The Luke on August 15, 2008, 09:34:25 AM
Branch= crispy, crunchy, odious, mephitic, vituperative and 'always' injured.

He allegedly has a legitimate trucking business he can fall back on, if his dream of winning a Mr. O evaporates!

...brutal thesaurus means:

Hank Wood = verbose, gimmick accounting troll, Adonis

He allegedly has no gimmick accounts but slips up like this all too often.



The Luke
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: New Hank Wood on August 15, 2008, 06:50:49 PM
I hope Branch's career continues.  The industry has a place for his kind of frame. 

It may be ugly and appear unhealthy, but there is a niche market for this type of physique!
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: BayGBM on August 30, 2008, 11:04:16 AM
DAMN IT BAY ...I just said they ANNOUNCED they are returning because of the NEED FOR MONEY...this is not me saying it...IT IS THEM. These cases are not like what you are talking about where a BB takes a layoff and returns later because they enjoy the competition.

To me this is sad, because it says these men have never taken the time to learn or develop ANY OTHER ABILITIES and now being out of BB they find themselves LOST IN A WORLD OF TECHNOLOGY WHERE THEY DON'T FIT IN.

Reminds me of the movie THE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION and how long term prisoners once released find themselves in a world FOREIGN to them because they don't have any abilities, skills, talents to survive...so they end up deliberately committing a crime so that they can go back to jail or they end up committing suicide.

I get it now...  They are going "back" to make money behind closed doors.  ;)
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: King Kagan on August 30, 2008, 11:40:53 AM
Just he needs to recover his triceps thats all he needs . Many pros got many surgeries and came back even better!
He knows the deal , he will come back better
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: rk272727 on August 30, 2008, 02:15:25 PM
Branch is out of the Olympia.  Yes, he has torn his tricep.

Can Branch make a comeback?  He just seems to injure himself so easily these days.

Branch is his own worst enemy.  He trains super heavy. He feels that he always has prove himself.  Quite sad really.
unlike you he will make a statement and return
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: New Hank Wood on August 30, 2008, 03:48:57 PM
Branch has been looking incredibly unhealthy for a long time now.

Call me naive, but maybe if he desists with the drug regime and goes back to a sensible diet, then maybe, his health will improve!
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: Bix on August 30, 2008, 03:51:40 PM
Branch has been looking incredibly unhealthy for a long time now.

Call me naive, but maybe if he desists with the drug regime and goes back to a sensible diet, then maybe, his health will improve!
But what good would that do for his contest placings?
Title: Re: Branch Warren; could this be the end !!!
Post by: arce377 on August 31, 2008, 12:22:13 AM
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