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....declares war on the others? Going to be pretty amusing!
What's the price on a barrel of sand these days?
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(http://livinggallery.oneindia.in/d/3356-2/ramzankadyrov.jpg)
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When the oil runs out, the middle east will be come an irrelevant wasteland.
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hopefully before they do so, they turn all their guns on israel ;D
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hopefully before they do so, they turn all their guns on israel ;D
I believe they tried that twice already, and failed miserably both times. LOL.
Nothing like having to live with the shame that a single country of a couple million people fended off the collective armies of 3/4 of the Middle East, while annexing more land in the process. Just another thing to laugh at Moslems about.
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I believe they tried that twice already, and failed miserably both times. LOL.
Nothing like having to live with the shame that a single country of a couple million people fended off the collective armies of 3/4 of the Middle East, while annexing more land in the process. Just another thing to laugh at Moslems about.
Hey, go easy on those countries.
The war lasted a whole week ;D
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hopefully before they do so, they turn all their guns on israel ;D
I have a suggestion: Bring all Jews and Muslims to Venus, with all their weapons, and let them kill the shit out of eachother.
The world would be a pretty nice place then.
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I have a suggestion: Bring all Jews and Muslims to Venus, with all their weapons, and let them kill the shit out of eachother.
The world would be a pretty nice place then.
Another Jew hater..
.. for no reason whatsoever.
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Another Jew hater..
.. for no reason whatsoever.
Jackass, listen to me very carefully... He said let them both go to Venus and fight it out... Obviously a joke, but even taken seriously, he dished it to both sides, you have no right to call him a Jew hater for what he just said... Save the dramatics.
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Jackass, listen to me very carefully... He said let them both go to Venus and fight it out... Obviously a joke, but even taken seriously, he dished it to both sides, you have no right to call him a Jew hater for what he just said... Save the dramatics.
Wrong JACKASS, lol..
He put Jews and Muslim fanatics on the same level. They're not.
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I have a suggestion: Bring all Jews and Muslims to Venus, with all their weapons, and let them kill the shit out of eachother.
The world would be a pretty nice place then.
Why are you hating on Jews?
The German Jews, have given parts of the world, Europe and America solid foundations for economic policies, and helped Britain and Holland structure free trade.
Your really showing ignorance trying to place jews in the same category as Muslim extremists, seeing as how the only thing Muslims have given the world is death, and bloody religious dogma.
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Why are you hating on Jews?
The German Jews, have given parts of the world, Europe and America solid foundations for economic policies, and helped Britain and Holland structure free trade.
Your really showing ignorance trying to place jews in the same category as Muslims extremeists, seeing as how the only thing Muslims have given the world is death, and bloody religious dogma.
And drama ::)
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Seriously, I've never seen any group, other than Jews, so hated for simply trying to be left alone.
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And drama ::)
What?
You think the two should be classified together?
I've never heard a Rabbi talk bad about Muslims, but I have head plenty of Muslims talk bad about jews.
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When the oil runs out, the middle east will become an even more irrelevant wasteland.
Fixed.
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What?
You think the two should be classified together?
I've never heard a Rabbi talk bad about Muslims, but I have head plenty of Muslims talk bad about jews.
No, I meant on the part of the muslims. They're always going off on some fanatical godforesaken holler.
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Another Jew hater..
.. for no reason whatsoever.
You're wrong. I do not hate Jews or Muslims or anyone because of their race or religion. Yet you ERRONEOUSLY call me a jew-hater, the same way you called me (sort of) a filthy Muslim (I was Roman Catholic most of my life, although I now believe there is no God). Both you and the other circumsized shemale (youandme) are wrong.
In any case, are you Jewish Brixtonbulldog?
From Da Original Hung-Aryan. It's a jooooke!
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[...]Your really showing ignorance trying to place jews in the same category as Muslim extremists[...]
I wasn't, YOU are. And I ain't going to connect the dots for you either.
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You're wrong. I do not hate Jews or Muslims or anyone because of their race or religion. Yet you ERRONEOUSLY call me a jew-hater, the same way you called me (sort of) a filthy Muslim (I was Roman Catholic most of my life, although I now believe there is no God). Both you and the other circumsized shemale (youandme) are wrong.
In any case, are you Jewish Brixtonbulldog?
From Da Original Hung-Aryan. It's a jooooke!
Please..
You're a massive pussy and a moron to boot. You might as well shit out your mouth cause I can't see you've said one thing worth listening to in any post you've written. I have to assume you're as much a loser in real life as you are on here.
Yes, I am.. and keep it coming cause this yid will just keep exposing your ignorance and lack of sophistication.
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I wasn't, YOU are. And I ain't going to connect the dots for you either.
"NO, YOU DID!!!!! YOU!!! WAAHHH!!!! WAAAAAAAHAHHHHHH!!!!"
ah HHAHAHAHHAHAH!!!!!!!! lol
Compelling argument. :D
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Please..
You're a massive pussy and a moron to boot. You might as well shit out your mouth cause I can't see you've said one thing worth listening to in any post you've written. I have to assume you're as much a loser in real life as you are on here.[...]
If you only knew.
Aside from your brain farts... seriously, I do not hate Jews. Let that be known before you go around spreading shit.
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"NO, YOU DID!!!!! YOU!!! WAAHHH!!!! WAAAAAAAHAHHHHHH!!!!"
ah HHAHAHAHHAHAH!!!!!!!! lol
Compelling argument. :D
I did not equate Jews to Muslim extremists, I equated Jews to Muslims.
But you do your thing boo.
Don't let logic bug bite you!
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If you only knew.
Aside from your brain farts... seriously, I do not hate Jews. Let that be known before you go around spreading shit.
Knew what?
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Seriously, I've never seen any group, other than Jews, so hated for simply trying to be left alone.
I think it might have something to do with people having their land ripped out from under them because of what some people perceived as wrong doing and trying to make up for it.
It's akin to reparations for slavery really and some people find that offensive.
Including some Jews.
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Knew what?
What?
;D ;D
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I think it might have something to do with people having their land ripped out from under them because of what some people perceived as wrong doing and trying to make up for it.
It's akin to reparations for slavery really and some people find that offensive.
Including some Jews.
Mixing the Jewish experience with that of the freed slaves is a really dumb thing to say. Jews took part in the financing of the slave trade. No Africans took part in any Jew trading.
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I think it might have something to do with people having their land ripped out from under them because of what some people perceived as wrong doing and trying to make up for it.
nevermind, delete...
would you clarify this statement for me?
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Mixing the Jewish experience with that of the freed slaves is a really dumb thing to say. Jews took part in the financing of the slave trade. No Africans took part in any Jew trading.
Antisemitism is rampant amongst black communities in this country. I find it funny that even within two groups who have similarities in experiencing discrimination there exists such hatred.
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Face it, you're an anti-Christian!
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Mixing the Jewish experience with that of the freed slaves is a really dumb thing to say. Jews took part in the financing of the slave trade. No Africans took part in any Jew trading.
It's not about the slave trade... It's about how Israel was given to the Jewish people after WW2 as a reparation... You see what I mean?
nevermind, delete...
would you clarify this statement for me?
See above statement... I'm simply making a statement... I don't really care either way. If someone wants that desert, they can have it.
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It's not about the slave trade... It's about how Israel was given to the Jewish people after WW2 as a reparation... You see what I mean?
See above statement... I'm simply making a statement... I don't really care either way. If someone wants that desert, they can have it.
But that "reparation" didn't involve TAKING the land when it was spoils of war AND uninhabited. Reparations for slavery would be punishing people who have committed no crime and giving to people who are not victims.
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But that "reparation" didn't involve TAKING the land when it was spoils of war AND uninhabited.[...]
Uninhabited?? What is this "right of return" all these Palestinians are referring to then?
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Uninhabited?? What is this "right of return" all these Palestinians are referring to then?
A farce.
Almost all of the land repopulated with Jews was uninhabited. The only "natives" were some nomadic goat herders and the new Israelis settled at a distance so as to not interfere with the indigenous people. Of course, they immediately moved near the Jews and flourished, especially when the Jews began irrigating and actually rendered the land usable.
The PL's there today are nothing like the few that lived there in the 40's and 50's. They really are hell bent on driving Israel to the sea and the end of the Jewish race. And people wonder why every concession the Jews have made to the PL's has resulted in MORE terrorism. Israel is the only place on earth where Islamic terrorism has actually been given credit for earning a violent peoples the right to negotiate by murdering civilians.
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A farce.
Almost all of the land repopulated with Jews was uninhabited. The only "natives" were some nomadic goat herders and the new Israelis settled at a distance so as to not interfere with the indigenous people. Of course, they immediately moved near the Jews and flourished, especially when the Jews began irrigating and actually rendered the land usable.
The PL's there today are nothing like the few that lived there in the 40's and 50's. They really are hell bent on driving Israel to the sea and the end of the Jewish race. And people wonder why every concession the Jews have made to the PL's has resulted in MORE terrorism. Israel is the only place on earth where Islamic terrorism has actually been given credit for earning a violent peoples the right to negotiate by murdering civilians.
All right then. Let me do a search on Wiki to corroborate your version...
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A farce.
Almost all of the land repopulated with Jews was uninhabited. The only "natives" were some nomadic goat herders and the new Israelis settled at a distance so as to not interfere with the indigenous people. Of course, they immediately moved near the Jews and flourished, especially when the Jews began irrigating and actually rendered the land usable.
The PL's there today are nothing like the few that lived there in the 40's and 50's. They really are hell bent on driving Israel to the sea and the end of the Jewish race. And people wonder why every concession the Jews have made to the PL's has resulted in MORE terrorism. Israel is the only place on earth where Islamic terrorism has actually been given credit for earning a violent peoples the right to negotiate by murdering civilians.
Hmm.
Still seems odd.
(http://www.muslimrap.net/picture/palestinethealbum/Stealing%20of%20Palestinian%20land%20by%20Israel%20with%20the%20help%20of%20the%20west.png)
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All right then. Let me do a search on Wiki to corroborate your version...
lol.. why don't you try a few books on the subject instead.
Nice one-sided, heavily embellished map.
;D
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lol.. why don't you try a few books on the subject instead.
Nice one-sided, heavily embellished map.
;D
Perhaps, but you deny that the map is accurate and was accurate at the times in question?
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Mmmmm. Funny, this is what I found:
"It reflects a belief that Palestinian refugees and their descendants have a right to return to the homes their families had possessed and left prior to, during or due to the 1948 Arab-Israeli war.[1]
The non-binding UN General Assembly Resolution 194 was passed on December 11, 1948 which recommended that the Palestinian and Jewish refugees should be permitted to return if they are willing to live in peace with their neighbors. The text of its Article 11: "[r]esolves that the refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbours should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date, and that compensation should be paid for the property of those choosing not to return and for loss of or damage to property..."[12] The Arab states originally rejected this resolution, although today they often leverage it in arguing for a Palestinian right of return."
They even have some pics of houses demolished by the Israeli army:
(http://www.thewe.cc/thewe_/images_5/_/palestine__/palestine_house_israel_demolished.jpe)
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/215/512478610_29a5d2b506.jpg?v=0)
I don't know... I'm a little scheptic here...
If you did not have Bar Rafaeli I'd already say I was going with the Palestinians.
Pic of Bar Rafaeli though:
(http://images.askmen.com/galleries/model/bar-refaeli/pictures/bar-refaeli-picture-1.jpg)
Ahhhh shit! The thing's I'd do to this woman...
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lol.. why don't you try a few books on the subject instead.
Nice one-sided, heavily embellished map.
;D
Look, the Negev looks just like Venus. All we gotta do is get this Rutan guy to build a rocket big enough to fit all of yous and the Palestinians as well as all the weapons you want. That way you guys can beat the shit out of each other and noone will notice.
Leave Bar Rafaeli behind though...
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It is what it is here.
People are pissed that Israel moved in and took land.
So fvcking what. Did they grab a place where others lived? Sure. Just like the USA did in our "manifest destiny" where we woke up one day with a grand vision for kicking out a whole bunch of indians.
I think it's weird that people even argue the israel thing. They are there. They have nukes. They are an ally. It's that simple. Anyone who stands with a straight face and gets all pissy about who is the 'rightful owner' of the land.... shit, we did the same thing. it happens. People move into new places and they kick out the residents. It's life.
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Perhaps, but you deny that the map is accurate and was accurate at the times in question?
Yes.
Most of the green was no mans land. I guess since it hadn't yet been populated by Jews the yokel that made it painted it for the nomads.
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Mmmmm. Funny, this is what I found:
"It reflects a belief that Palestinian refugees and their descendants have a right to return to the homes their families had possessed and left prior to, during or due to the 1948 Arab-Israeli war.[1]
The non-binding UN General Assembly Resolution 194 was passed on December 11, 1948 which recommended that the Palestinian and Jewish refugees should be permitted to return if they are willing to live in peace with their neighbors. The text of its Article 11: "[r]esolves that the refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbours should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date, and that compensation should be paid for the property of those choosing not to return and for loss of or damage to property..."[12] The Arab states originally rejected this resolution, although today they often leverage it in arguing for a Palestinian right of return."
They even have some pics of houses demolished by the Israeli army:
(http://www.thewe.cc/thewe_/images_5/_/palestine__/palestine_house_israel_demolished.jpe)
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/215/512478610_29a5d2b506.jpg?v=0)
I don't know... I'm a little scheptic here...
If you did not have Bar Rafaeli I'd already say I was going with the Palestinians.
Pic of Bar Rafaeli though:
(http://images.askmen.com/galleries/model/bar-refaeli/pictures/bar-refaeli-picture-1.jpg)
Ahhhh shit! The thing's I'd do to this woman...
Nice belief.. who cares. And I hope you don't think wiki is objective by any measure. We college students are forbidden from using it as a source for a reason.
Nevertheless, to the victor (Britain) go the spoils (desert). They were free to divy it up as they saw fit.
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When the oil runs out it wont matter because many of those oil producing nations will own American assets. They've been buying up America for quite some time now, your next boss may be Ali Salim Dubar.
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When the oil runs out it wont matter because many of those oil producing nations will own American assets. They've been buying up America for quite some time now, your next boss may be Ali Salim Dubar.
yeah, china has a lot of deeds to land too.
of course, collecting means they have gotten past our army and our citizenry, which might not be worth it. I'm sure real estate in tikrit or basra is dirt cheap these days too.
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Yes.
Most of the green was no mans land. I guess since it hadn't yet been populated by Jews the yokel that made it painted it for the nomads.
The Mojave desert is no man's land also, but it's still a part of the US.
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The Mojave desert is no man's land also, but it's still a part of the US.
But the entire US isn't a spoil of war to some other country as Israel was to Britain.
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But the entire US isn't a spoil of war to some other country as Israel was to Britain.
You're changing the point... The point is that the country was in fact given to the jewish people and they have been taking more and more of that land as they deem necessary.
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You're changing the point... The point is that the country was in fact given to the jewish people and they have been taking more and more of that land as they deem necessary.
The borders of the country are clearly established and have been for quite some time. PL's are murdering civilians as a form of negotiation and yet Israel capitulated and gave them their own land. There's nothing that would have prevented a huge
PL population except their own hatred of Jews and their "method" of negotiation yet I don't see the same condemnation for their actions from the left.
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The borders of the country are clearly established and have been for quite some time. PL's are murdering civilians as a form of negotiation and yet Israel capitulated and gave them their own land. There's nothing that would have prevented a huge
PL population except their own hatred of Jews and their "method" of negotiation yet I don't see the same condemnation for their actions from the left.
Ridiculous... Everyone condemns their terrorist actions.
However, for you to deny that the Israeli government is also committing terrible terrorist acts is unrealistic.
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Ridiculous... Everyone condemns their terrorist actions.
However, for you to deny that the Israeli government is also committing terrible terrorist acts is unrealistic.
Understandable response to rampant terrorism.
If Hamas fought a real war against the Israeli forces, didn't use human shields, didn't blow up crowds of Israeli women and children, or (gasp) actually compromising and sticking to the agreements over the years, as Israel consistently does, Israel wouldn't be forced to destroy a school because terrorists hide amongst children.
Until a miracle happens or the leash is removed from Israels neck when it comes to combating terror Israel will have NO choice but to fight back anyway possible.
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It is what it is here.
People are pissed that Israel moved in and took land.
So fvcking what. Did they grab a place where others lived? Sure. Just like the USA did in our "manifest destiny" where we woke up one day with a grand vision for kicking out a whole bunch of indians.
I think it's weird that people even argue the israel thing. They are there. They have nukes. They are an ally. It's that simple. Anyone who stands with a straight face and gets all pissy about who is the 'rightful owner' of the land.... shit, we did the same thing. it happens. People move into new places and they kick out the residents. It's life.
This is how I look at it. This is what people have been doing for years. In war, to the victor goes the spoils. As far as I'm concerned, the Arabs have lost their "claim" to that land. They can bitch about it all they want, but the fact of the matter is a half dozen countries have tried twice now to destroy Israel and failed miserably. That's their land now. If they want it back, take it. The USA did it with the Indians, China with Tibet, Russia with countless countries. Almost every country in the world is responsible for doing the same thing in some way. Most of the Arab world despises each other so it's no surprise they can't get along with Jews. They'd just as soon kill every other Arab not in their country as they would Israel were they given the chance.
Ridiculous... Everyone condemns their terrorist actions.
However, for you to deny that the Israeli government is also committing terrible terrorist acts is unrealistic.
Palestinian militants launched over 2,000 mortars and rockets at the town of Sderot in the first six months of this year. They're blindly attacking civilians. Yet no one cares. But they bitch and moan when Hamas hides among the civilian Lebanese population and ends up being directly responsible for the deaths of civilians by using them as human shields.
Don't get me wrong, though. I'm not supporting either country. If Israel disappeared off the map today, I wouldn't bat an eyelash at it. But I'm not biased. And in this day and age, you don't earn respect or earn a country by launching thousands upon thousands of rockets at civilians and carrying out other terrorist attacks.
Hell, they actually IDOLIZE a guy who executed an Israeli man in front of his four year old daughter and then bashed her head in with a rifle against a rock. Just a disgusting race that deserves nothing but the utmost disrespect as far as I'm concerned.
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This is how I look at it. This is what people have been doing for years. In war, to the victor goes the spoils. As far as I'm concerned, the Arabs have lost their "claim" to that land. They can bitch about it all they want, but the fact of the matter is a half dozen countries have tried twice now to destroy Israel and failed miserably. That's their land now. If they want it back, take it. The USA did it with the Indians, China with Tibet, Russia with countless countries. Almost every country in the world is responsible for doing the same thing in some way. Most of the Arab world despises each other so it's no surprise they can't get along with Jews. They'd just as soon kill every other Arab not in their country as they would Israel were they given the chance.
Absolutely true... The aspect that we have an ally in the region is probably the most important thing.
Can't imagine why anyone would want that area though. Religious or not, it's worth more as a pane of glass.
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Absolutely true... The aspect that we have an ally in the region is probably the most important thing.
Can't imagine why anyone would want that area though. Religious or not, it's worth more as a pane of glass.
It's all about Jerusalem. Yet again, religion is directly responsible for an entire conflict. Some shitty town with some fabled biblical value.
But, to be honest, the last time the Palestinians had control of Jerusalem, a person couldn't walk in there without risking getting killed.
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Seriously, I've never seen any group, other than Jews, so hated for simply trying to be left alone.
You are seriously stupid.
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You are seriously stupid.
Ha! I forgot, you hate hearing the truth.
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Can't imagine why anyone would want that area though. Religious or not, it's worth more as a pane of glass.
Because it's smack dab in the center of most of the world's bigger oil reserves.
keep your enemies close, yada yada.
plus if anyone ever makes a move on us in the region - china, russia, someone with nukes and birds to deliver them - Israel will shoot their birds into the capital cities of every middle eastern nation without question.
MAD - everyone gets wasted. This prevents it form ever happening.
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Brixton is a textbook example of the indoctrinated little jewish boy spouting off the 'israel/jews are so innocent, they are not/have not ever done anything wrong, only the palestinians have killed/massacred civilians ( ::)), the land was 'uninhabited', the countless cultures/peoples in various places of the world who have had clashed with us over the centuries has been the other guys' fault every time, everybody is an 'antisemitic'' rhetoric.
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Brixton is a textbook example of the indoctrinated little jewish boy spouting off the 'israel/jews are so innocent, they are not/have not ever done anything wrong, only the palestinians have killed/massacred civilians ( ::)), the land was 'uninhabited', the countless cultures/peoples in various places of the world who have had clashed with us over the centuries has been the other guys' fault every time, everybody is an 'antisemitic'' rhetoric.
Throwing shit isn't winning anyone over and the issue is who is initiating and perpetuating the violence since self-defense involves violent action on both sides. I'm Jewish so the issue hits closer to home than the ignorant gaggle of morons you were shit from.
Do some research.. read some books on the topic.. then remove your foot from your mouth and your head from your ass and man up to being completely wrong.
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Brixtonbulldog is just lying through the gap in his teeth. He's got no proof, no facts, backing what he says.
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Brixtonbulldog is just lying through the gap in his teeth. He's got no proof, no facts, backing what he says.
Considering you tried to justify Hamas launching 2,000+ mortar and rockets in the first six months of this year at a civilian town, I don't think he'll feel too insulted knowing you can't refute anything he says.
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Brixtonbulldog is just lying through the gap in his teeth. He's got no proof, no facts, backing what he says.
And you have? I'm sitting here knowing full well you'll blind yourself from any facts put in your face just to spite me or avoid admitting to being completely wrong or ignorant. So I tell you to research it for yourself but it's sad to know you haven't.. you won't and you could care less. It's just another issue of which you know nothing yet you must have an opinion regardless.
I certainly haven't seen any substance from you to refute my statements, have I? ;D
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Throwing shit isn't winning anyone over and the issue is who is initiating and perpetuating the violence since self-defense involves violent action on both sides. I'm Jewish so the issue hits closer to home than the ignorant gaggle of morons you were shit from.
Do some research.. read some books on the topic.. then remove your foot from your mouth and your head from your ass and man up to being completely wrong.
Theres no point talking to you about it. You have your opinion and if God existed, he/she wouldnt be able to change your mind, so I dont why anyone else even bothers. But one things for sure, your attitude and the many who hold it, on both sides, is what keeps all that bullshit just rolling along.
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Considering you tried to justify Hamas launching 2,000+ mortar and rockets in the first six months of this year at a civilian town, I don't think he'll feel too insulted knowing you can't refute anything he says.
Here's the other circumsized shemale.
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And you have? I'm sitting here knowing full well you'll blind yourself from any facts put in your face just to spite me or avoid admitting to being completely wrong or ignorant. So I tell you to research it for yourself but it's sad to know you haven't.. you won't and you could care less. It's just another issue of which you know nothing yet you must have an opinion regardless.
I certainly haven't seen any substance from you to refute my statements, have I? ;D
You NEVER present any facts when it comes to Da Homeland paisan. If you do so you know your own arguments will force you to fall flat on your face. Hence you're lying your ass off. Your best try is saying "facts don't mean shit!", telling people they know nothing about Israel or any other idiotic diversive tactic in order to prevent people from finding out you know as much about Israel as the next guy. Hell, I'm 1000 times more Jewish than you will ever be. And I ain't even Jewish!
Remember the graphics I pasted on to the other thread about the Palestinians showing that a Palestinian person was 9 times more likely to die due to violent acts, Palestinian children are 5 times more likely to die than Israeli children, etc?. Facts which you, allow me to reiterate, refused to accept with a "facts don't mean shit". So you tell me that I present no facts? How blind can you be?
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No reply? I thought so.
Bitch!
(http://i29.tinypic.com/osqzoh.jpg)
My friend!
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Theres no point talking to you about it. You have your opinion and if God existed, he/she wouldnt be able to change your mind, so I dont why anyone else even bothers. But one things for sure, your attitude and the many who hold it, on both sides, is what keeps all that bullshit just rolling along.
Keep believing that.
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Theres no point talking to you about it. You have your opinion and if God existed, he/she wouldnt be able to change your mind, so I dont why anyone else even bothers. But one things for sure, your attitude and the many who hold it, on both sides, is what keeps all that bullshit just rolling along.
You've got kids throwing rocks at tanks and the tanks respond by firing at them and their houses. These hasidic SOBs contend that the response is "adequate". Never mind the fact that they are OCCUPYING the Palestinian's land or that killing kids is not Ok.
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Now, I gotta go to sleep, so Brixton, keep surfing the pedophile sites and hold off all your ire until tomorrow.
Homo... sapiens!
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You NEVER present any facts when it comes to Da Homeland paisan. If you do so you know your own arguments will force you to fall flat on your face. Hence you're lying your ass off. Your best try is saying "facts don't mean shit!", telling people they know nothing about Israel or any other idiotic diversive tactic in order to prevent people from finding out you know as much about Israel as the next guy. Hell, I'm 1000 times more Jewish than you will ever be. And I ain't even Jewish!
Remember the graphics I pasted on to the other thread about the Palestinians showing that a Palestinian person was 9 times more likely to die due to violent acts, Palestinian children are 5 times more likely to die than Israeli children, etc?. Facts which you, allow me to reiterate, refused to accept with a "facts don't mean shit". So you tell me that I present no facts? How blind can you be?
You just blew your own argument. Did you ever think WHY PL kids are in so much danger? The terrorists are hiding amongst them, praise be to Allah!!!! hahahahahahah!!! JFC
So now you're not only wrong but you're too simple to read between the lines.. BIG surprise there! ::) ::)
MYTH:
"The Jews have no historic claim to Israel."
FACT:
Only one group of people have continuously lived in Israel for the past 3,700 years - the Jews. Jerusalem, in particular, has had a Jewish majority since the 1840s, 40 years prior to the beginnings of Zionism. Seventy-five percent of the land in east Jerusalem, which the press calls "historically Arab east Jerusalem," has been owned by Jews since 1947. The nations that inhabited the land prior to the Jews are no longer in existence, for they have been absorbed into various other peoples throughout the millennia. The Arabs of Israel only came to the land in 632 with the Muslim invasion.
MYTH:
"The creation of the state of Israel in 1948 changed political and border arrangements between independent states that had existed for centuries."
FACT:
The boundaries of most Middle East countries were arbitrarily fixed by the Western powers after Turkey was defeated in World War I and the French and British mandates were set up. The areas allotted to Israel under the UN Partition Plan had all been under the control of the Ottomans, who had ruled Palestine from 1517 until 1917. When Turkey was defeated in World War I, the French took over the area now known as Lebanon and Syria. The British assumed control of Palestine and Iraq. In 1926, the borders were redrawn and Lebanon was separated from Syria. Britain installed the Emir Faisal, who had been deposed by the French in Syria, as ruler of the new kingdom of Iraq. In 1922, the British created the emirate of Transjordan, which incorporated all of Palestine east of the Jordan River. This was done so that the Emir Abdullah, whose family had been defeated in tribal warfare in the Arabian peninsula, would have a kingdom to rule. None of the countries that border Israel became independent until this century. Many other Arab nations became independent after Israel.
MYTH:
"Israel violates the human rights of the Palestinian Arabs."
FACT:
The facts are different. Israel granted full citizenship to all of the Palestinian Arabs who fell within its borders after the War of Independence. Arabic is an official language in Israel. Israel remains to this day one of the few countries in the Middle East where Arabs can legitimately vote--and it is the only one where women can vote.
MYTH:
"Israel has been an expansionist state since its creation."
FACT:
Israel's boundaries were determined by the United Nations when it adopted the partition resolution in 1947. In a series of defensive wars, Israel captured additional territory. On numerous occasions, Israel has withdrawn from these areas. As part of the 1974 disengagement agreement, Israel returned territories captured in the 1967 and 1973 wars to Syria. Under the terms of the 1979, Israeli-Egyptian peace treaty, Israel withdrew from the Sinai peninsula for the third time. It had already withdrawn from large parts of the desert area it captured in its War of Independence. After capturing the entire Sinai in the 1956 Suez conflict, Israel relinquished the peninsula to Egypt a year later. In September 1983, Israel withdrew from large areas of Lebanon to positions south of the Awali River. In 1985, it completed its withdrawal from Lebanon, except for a narrow security zone just north of the Israeli border. That too was abandoned, unilaterally, in 2000. After signing peace agreements with the Palestinians and a treaty with Jordan, Israel agreed to withdraw from most of the territory in the West Bank captured from Jordan in 1967. A small area was returned to Jordan and the rest was ceded to the Palestinian Authority. The agreement with the Palestinians also involved Israel's withdrawal, in 1994, from most of the Gaza Strip, which had been captured from Egypt in 1973.
MYTH:
"Israel is the aggressor in the current conflict."
FACTS:
One: The Palestinians are the aggressors; they started the conflict, and they purposely drive it forward with fresh killing on an almost-daily basis.
Two: The Palestinians regard this second intifada not as a sporadically violent protest movement, but as a war, with the clear strategic aim of forcing a scared and emotionally exhausted Israel to surrender on terms that would threaten Israel's viability.
Three: As a tactic in this strategy, the Palestinians will not fight Israeli forces directly but instead have concentrated their efforts on murdering Israeli civilians. The greater the number, the more pathetically vulnerable the victims--disco-goers, women and children in a pizza restaurant--the better.
Four: Israel has acted defensively in this conflict; and while Israeli forces accidentally killed Palestinian civilians, their planned lethal attacks have all been aimed only at Palestinian military and terror-group leaders.
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I saw that once... It was on a site who believed that the Jews should control Israel.
I wonder what a 3rd party independent group would say.
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You've got kids throwing rocks at tanks and the tanks respond by firing at them and their houses. These hasidic SOBs contend that the response is "adequate". Never mind the fact that they are OCCUPYING the Palestinian's land or that killing kids is not Ok.
The ignorance in every part of this statement is astounding.
Since October 2000, almost on a daily basis, the Palestinian terrorist groups Hamas and Islamic Jihad deliberately attempt to murder unarmed Israeli women and children. Here you'll find some of the major attacks and also articles that explain the Arab/Islamic hate of the West and Israel that leads to such barbaric acts. You might also want to check the Palestine page for more information.
July 02, 2008
Palestinian terrorist murders three Israelis; dozens wounded
A Palestinian terrorist used a bulldozer to run over cars and overturn a bus in Jerusalem, murdering three Israelis and...
March 06, 2008
Palestinian terrorist murders 8 Israeli students
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that a Palestinian terrorist murdered 8 Israeli students from a Yeshiva (religious school) in Jerusalem:...
March 03, 2008
Palestinian Islamic Jihad and Hamas fire hundreds of rockets at Israeli women and children
Honest Report (www.honestreporting.com) has published information on how Palestinians from the Islamic Jihad and Hamas are firing hundreds of rockets...
January 29, 2007
Palestinian Islamic terrorist murders 3 in Eilat, Israel
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that a Palestinian from the terrorist group "Islamic Jihad" (or "Islamic Holy War") has blown...
April 17, 2006
Palestinian terrorist murders four women and five men in homicide bombing in Tel-Aviv; dozens injured
A murderer from the Palestinian terrorist group named "Islamic Jihad" has killed 9 Israelis: [...] Terror struck in southern Tel...
April 02, 2006
Palestinian "Minister of Foreign Affairs" calls for the destruction of Israel
The Haaretz newspaper (www.haaretzdaily.com) reports that the Palestinian "Minister of Foreign Affairs" has openly called for destruction of the State...
March 31, 2006
Palestinian terrorist murders elderly couple and 18-year-old woman
JTA.org reports that a Palestinian terrorist has murdered three Israelis: Suicide bomber kills four 3/30/2006, Link A suicide bomber disguised...
February 04, 2006
Palestinian terrorists fire rockets at Israeli towns; 7-month baby is critically injured
The Washington Post (www.washingtonpost.com) reports that the mass murderers from the Palestinian Hamas and Islamic Jihad have fired more rockets...
January 19, 2006
Palestinian terrorist blows himself up in market; tries to murder dozens of innocent Israelis
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that a Palestinian terrorist from the terrorist group "Islamic Jihad" has blown himself in a...
October 26, 2005
Palestinian terrorist murders 5 Israelis in homicide bombing
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that a terrorist from the Palestinian Islamic Jihad has murdered 5 Israelis and injured dozens...
August 07, 2005
Palestinian Terrorist shoots 10 year old boy in the head
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that a Palestinian terrorist shot an Israeli 10 year old boy in the head: A...
July 12, 2005
Palestinian terrorist murders three Israeli women in bombing of Shopping Center, dozens injured
A Palestinian Islamic Supremacist has blown himself up in a crowded Israeli shopping center, murdering three Israeli women and wounding...
February 25, 2005
Palestinian Islamic Supremacist murders 4 Israelis
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that a Palestinian Islamic Supremacist has murdered four Israelis and wounded dozens after blowing himself...
November 01, 2004
Palestinian Islamic Supremacist murders three Israelis
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that a Palestinian Islamic Supremacist has murderered three Israelis after blowing himself up in a...
September 29, 2004
Palestinian Terrorists launch rocket on Israeli city and murder two children
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that Palestinian terrorists have bombed the Israeli city of Sderot and murdered two children: Dorit,...
September 22, 2004
Palestinian murderer kills two Israelis
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that a female Palestinian bastard has blown herself up murdering two Israelis and injuring 16:...
August 31, 2004
Palestinian mass murderers kill 16 Israelis, including a three yeard old child
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that a Palestinian mass murderers have killed 16 Israelis, including a three year old child:...
July 11, 2004
Palestinian terrorists murder 19-year-old Israeli woman; injure over 30
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that the Palestinian mass murderers from Yasser Arafat's Al-Aksa brigades exploded a bomb at a...
June 27, 2004
Palestinian terrorists fire two missiles into Israeli city; kill two Israelis, including a 3-year-old child
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that Palestinian terrorists from the Islamic Jihad and Hamas have fired another missile at an...
May 02, 2004
Palestinian terrorists murder Israeli mother and her four children
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that Palestinian terrorists have murdered a mother and her four children: "On Friday my daughters...
April 17, 2004
Palestinian homicide bomber murders one Israeli and injures three
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that a Palestinian homicide bomber from the terrorist group Hamas has murdered one Israeli and...
April 03, 2004
Palestinian Terrorist murders Father and injures teenage daughter
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that once again a Palestinian murderer infiltrated an Israeli town and started shooting in all...
March 16, 2004
Palestinian terrorists reach new low: 11 year-old boy used as human bomb
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that the mass murderers from the Palestinian Islamic Jihad and Arafat's Fatah Tanzim have reached...
March 14, 2004
Palestinian Mass Murderers kill 10 Israelis
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that two Palestinian mass murderers have blown themselves up in the port of the Israeli...
February 28, 2004
Palestinian terrorists murder young Israeli couple
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that Palestinian terrorists murdered a young woman and her husband: Eitan Kukoi, 30, and his...
February 22, 2004
Palestinian genocidal mass murderer kills 7 Israelis and injures dozens
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that a genocidal mass murderer from the Palestinian terrorist group "Hamas" (Islamic "Resistance"), has blown...
February 15, 2004
Racist high ranking Palestinian Politician calls Israel "a Satanic offspring that cannot exist among human beings"
The Independent Media Review Analysis website (www.imra.org.il) has translated a racist interview given on Palestinian TV by Ahmad Nasser, the...
January 29, 2004
Palestinian terrorist murders 10 Israelis
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that a Palestinian terrorist has murdered 10 Israelis and injured over 50 in a homicide...
January 15, 2004
Palestinian terrorist blows herself up murdering 4 Israelis
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that a Palestinian murderer, mother of 2, has blown herself killing 4 Israelis and injuring...
January 14, 2004
Palestinian terrorist, member of Arafat's group, murders Israeli father of five
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that a Palestinian murderer has killed an Israeli father of five: The funeral of Ro'i...
December 25, 2003
Palestinian homicide bomber murders three Israelis
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that a Palestinian homicide bomber has murdered three Israelis: At least Three people were killed...
November 15, 2003
Islamic Mass Murderers kill 20 in Synagogues bombings in Istanbul
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that racist Islamic mass murderers (probably from Al-Qaeda) have killed 20 and injured hundreds in...
October 04, 2003
Palestinian mass murderer kills 19 Israelis in homicide bombing
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that a Palestinian mass murderer has murdered 19 Israelis, including a one year old baby,...
October 01, 2003
Terrorist from the Palestinian Islamic Jihad murders 7-month-old Israeli baby girl
Israel Insider (www.israelinsider.com) reports that a terrorist from the Palestinian Islamic Jihad has deliberately murdered a 7-month-old Israeli baby girl:...
September 15, 2003
Brainwashed Palestinian 10-year-old girl wishes to murder all Jews
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that some brainwashed Palestinian children wish to murder all Jews: "We want to defend [Palestinian...
September 09, 2003
Palestinian homicide bombers murder 14 Israelis and injure dozens
Fox News (www.foxnews.com) reports that two Palestinian mass murderers have blown themselves up in separate homicide bombings, killing 14 and...
August 19, 2003
Mass Murderer from the Palestinian Islamic Jihad blows himself in Jerusalem bus; kills 18, injures over 100 Israelis
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that a mass murderer from the Palestinian Islamic Jihad has blown himself in a two-story...
August 13, 2003
Two Palestinian homicide bombers murder two Israelis and kill chances for Palestinian State
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that two Palestinian homicide bombers, one from the Hamas (Islamic Resistance) and one from Arafat's...
July 14, 2003
Palestinian terrorist murders one Israeli, stabs another two
Harretz (www.haaretzdaily.com) reports that a Palestinian terrorist has murdered one Israeli and stabbed two others walking by: A Palestinian terrorist...
July 12, 2003
Yasser Arafat calls upon children to become murderers
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that Yasser Arafat, the current Palestinian "President", has once again shown what a violent, mindless...
July 08, 2003
Palestinian terrorist from Islamic Jihad murders 65 year-old Israeli grandmother
Israel Insider (www.israelinsider.com) reports that a murderer from the Palestinian Islamic Jihad has killed a grandmother and injured three of...
June 19, 2003
Palestinian homicide bomber murders 63-year-old Israeli grandfather
Israel Insider (www.israelinsider.com) reports that a Palestinian homicide bomber blew himself up murdering a 63 year-old Israeli grandfather: A suicide...
June 18, 2003
Palestinian terrorist murders 7-year-old Israeli girl
Israel Insider (www.israelinsider.com) reports that a Palestinian terrorist has murdered an Israeli 7-year-old girl and wounded a 3-year-old: Seven-year-old Noam...
June 11, 2003
Massacre in Jerusalem: Palestinian homicide bomber murders 16 Israelis
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that a fascist Muslim homicide bomber from the Palestinian "Islamic Resistance" (Hamas) has murdered 15...
June 03, 2003
Most Muslims reject peace and wish for destruction of State of Israel
The International Herald Tribune (www.iht.com) reports that a recent poll shows that the majority of Muslims around the World reject...
May 19, 2003
Palestinian homicide bomber murders three Israelis
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that a Palestinian homicide bomber has murdered 3 more Israelis: In the fifth suicide bombing...
May 18, 2003
Palestinian homicide bomber murders 7 Israelis on Jerusalem bus
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that the scum from Hamas, the Palestinian Jihad or Arafat's Al-Aksa brigades have once again...
April 29, 2003
Muslim killer murders 4 Israelis in homicide bombing
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that a Muslim has murdered 4 Israelis in a homicide bombing in Tel-Aviv: An Israeli...
April 23, 2003
Palestinian homicide bomber murders one and wounds 9 Israelis
To prove that the Palestinians are serious about not implementing any peace agreement, a Palestinian murderer has killed one and...
April 15, 2003
Palestinian terrorist murders two Israelis
With the coverage of the war in Iraq we might forget that the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Hamas and Arafat's Al-Aksa...
March 30, 2003
Homicide bomber from the Palestinian Islamic Jihad blows himself up wounding dozens
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that a homicide bomber from the Palestinian Islamic Jihad blew himself up in a cafe...
March 22, 2003
Many Palestinians call for Iraq to bomb Israel with chemical weapons
Israel Insider (www.israelinsider.com) reports that Palestinians are supporting Iraq and the butcher from Baghdad: Tens of thousands Palestinians demonstrated Friday...
March 19, 2003
Arafat's Palestinian terrorists shoot Israeli in the head
I just heard on Israeli radio that Palestinian terrorists from Arafat's terrorist group "Al-Aksa brigades" have deliberately shot an Israeli...
March 15, 2003
The Muslim holiday of 'Ashoura': a bloody celebration of intolerance
This week many Muslims around the world celebrated the holiday of Ashoura. I have found a page that explains what...
March 05, 2003
Palestinian homicide bomber deliberately murders 15 Israelis in bus explosion
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that a Palestinian terrorist has blown himself up inside an Israeli bus, deliberately murdering 15...
January 12, 2003
Palestinian terrorists from the Islamic Jihad murder 48-year-old Israeli, father of 4
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that a Palestinian terrorist from the Islamic Jihad murdered a 48-year-old Israeli, father of 4:...
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January 10, 2003
Islamic leader of Palestinian Hamas calls for "Suicide Army"
The Middle East Media Research Institute (www.memri.org) translates articles from the Arab Muslim world. In its latest article, Memri.org has...
January 05, 2003
Massacre in Tel-Aviv: double homicide bombing by the Palestinian Islamic Jihad leaves 23 dead
Israel Insider (www.israelinsider.com) reports that murderers from the Palestinian Islamic Jihad are responsible for a double homicide bombing in Tel-Aviv:...
January 01, 2003
Palestinian terrorist tries to murder Israeli family, manages only to get killed
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that a Palestinian terrorist broke into the house of an Israeli family with the intent...
December 27, 2002
Palestinian terrorists from the Islamic Jihad murder 4 Israelis
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that Palestinian terrorists from the Islamic Jihad deliberately murdered four Israelis that were celebrating the...
December 21, 2002
Israeli Rabbi, father of 6, deliberately murdered by Palestinian terrorist from Islamic Jihad
Israel Insider (www.israelinsider.com) reports that a Palestinian terrorist from the Islamic Jihad has murderer an Israeli Rabbi, father of 6:...
December 13, 2002
Palestinian TV broadcasts racist programs calling Jews "monkeys and pigs"
Worldnet Daily (www.WorldnetDaily.com) reports that for the holidays (Ramadan) Palestinian TV has broadcasted racist programs: Palestinians show their support for...
December 09, 2002
Arafat wishes to die murdering women and children (becoming a "martyr")
The Middle East Media Reasearch Institute (www.memri.org), has translated an interview given by Arafat, the Palestinian "leader", on October 10,...
November 28, 2002
Arafat's Palestinian terrorists murder 5 Israelis
Ha'aretz (www.haaretzdaily.com) reports that Palestinian terrorists have deliberately murdered 5 Israelis in Beit Shean, a city in the north of...
November 27, 2002
Terrorists attack Israeli tourists in Kenya - 12 people murdered, including two Israeli children, over 80 injured
The Jerusalem Post reports on a terrorist attack against Israeli tourists in Kenya: KIKAMBALA, Kenya - Three suicide bombers attacked...
November 24, 2002
Arafat sets up factory of explosives
Ha'aretz (www.haaretzdaily.com) reports that Arafat and his thugs from the Palestinian Authority wish to implement the "peace of the brave"...
November 23, 2002
New: Palestinian homicide/suicide dinghys
The Palestinian terrorist group Islamic Jihad (holy war) tried to murder dozens of women and children by packing a boat...
November 22, 2002
Massacre in Jerusalem: Palestinian homicide bomber deliberately murders 11 Israelis, including 5 women and 4 children
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that a Palestinian homicide/suicide bomber blew himself in a bus in Jerusalem, murdering 11 Israelis,...
November 18, 2002
Palestinian terrorists murder Israeli 48-year-old woman, mother of 7
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that Palestinian terrorists have shown once again what great warriors they are by shooting and...
November 17, 2002
Arab Muslim tries to hijack Israeli airplane
Ha'aretz (www.haaretzdaily.com) reports that an Israeli Arab Muslim tried to hijack an El Al (Israel's airline) plane: Alert security guards...
November 15, 2002
Palestinian Islamic Jihad murders 12 Israelis
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that the Palestinian Islamic Jihad attempted to murder dozens of Israeli worshipers. They managed to...
November 10, 2002
Palestinian terrorists deliberately murder five Israelis: one young man, 2 women and 2 children aged 4 and 5
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that a Palestinian terrorist infiltrated a kibbutz (an Israeli collective farm), and fired at women...
November 08, 2002
Israeli soldiers stop Palestinian homicide/suicide bomber from murdering women and children
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that Israeli soldiers were able to stop a Palestinian homicide/suicide bomber from deliberately murdering unarmed...
November 06, 2002
Palestinian terrorist deliberately murders two Israelis
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that a Palestinian terrorist has murdered two Israelis: A Palestinian terrorist from the village of...
November 04, 2002
Palestinian homicide bomber murders two, injures 32, unarmed Israelis
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that a Palestinian homicide/suicide bomber deliberately blew himself up in a crowded mall in Kfar...
November 01, 2002
Palestinian father of homicide bomber believes Israel is behind 9/11 and suicide attacks
While checking Instapundit I stumbled upon this article from "The Australian" (www.theaustralian.news.c om.au) which described a Palestinian father of a homicide/suicide...
October 29, 2002
Palestinian terrorist murders Israeli woman, shoots at kids
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that a Palestinian terrorist infiltrated an Israeli town and tried to murder everyone in site:...
October 27, 2002
Palestinian genocide bomber murders four Israelis
I just heard on Israeli radio that once again a Palestinian terrorist has blown himself up. The Palestinian homicide/suicide bomber...
October 22, 2002
Palestinian Islamic Jihad murders 15 unarmed civilians
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that the Palestinian terrorist group Islamic Jihad blew up a a car stuffed with over...
October 10, 2002
Palestinian homicide bomber murders one grandmother
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that a Palestinian homicide bomber killed a 71-year-old woman and injured over two dozen people...
October 01, 2002
Video: Arafat's terrorists are funded by Iraq and Iran
A couple of days ago, the american network CBS broadcasted an excellent show. In this week's "60 Minutes", the host,...
September 25, 2002
Palestinian Television continues to broadcast hate, racism and calls for war
In one of the forums I read daily, someone posted an article that described how Arafat calls for peace: “Only...
September 23, 2002
Palestinian terrorist opens fire on crowd of Israeli women and children
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that a Palestinian terrorist opened fire at a crowd of Israeli men, women and children...
September 19, 2002
Palestinian terrorist kills 5 and injures over 60 unarmed Israeli men, women and children
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that another Palestinian genocide bomber has blown himself up in a crowded bus in Tel-Aviv,...
September 18, 2002
Palestinian genocide bomber murders one Israeli
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that a Palestinian genocide bomber has blown himself in a northern Israeli-Arab town, murdering one:...
September 13, 2002
Palestinian terrorists fire rockets into Israeli civilian centers
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that Palestinians have fired a Kassam rocket into a civilian area in Southern Israel. Terrorists...
Three Palestinians attempt to poison customers of a cafe in Jerusalem, Israel's capital
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that three Palestinians tried to poison customers of a cafe in Jerusalem. According to police,...
August 29, 2002
Palestinian Television teaches hatred
The IDF (Israel's army, www.idf.il) has published a report on how Palestinian kids are taught to hate at a young...
August 24, 2002
Palestinians schoolbooks are racist and teach hate and violence
The Center for Monitoring the Impact of Peace (www.edume.org) has published a reports that examines the Palestinian schoolbooks printed in...
August 22, 2002
Arab Muslims residents of Jerusalem turn out to be terrorists
CBS News (www.cbsnews.com) reports that Israel has arrested a Palestinian Hamas (Islamic Resistance) group responsible for the murder of 35...
Palestinian University students support genocide bombings
The Israel Defense Forces (www.idf.il), Israel's army, has created a webpage that shows how a Palestinian University, Al-Najah, is the...
August 20, 2002
Arafat's security chief commanded Hamas and Islamic Jihad in terrorist attacks against unarmed Israeli civilians
The Washington Times (www.washingtontimes.com) has published an article that describes how Israel has arrested and brought to trial Marwan Barghouti,...
August 12, 2002
Many Arab/Muslim small businesses in the US fund Palestinian terrorism
The Washington Post (www.washingtonpost.com) reports that the US authorities are investigating over 500 Arab/Muslim small businesses that might have been...
August 11, 2002
Israeli mother of 2 murdered by a Palestinian terrorist
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that a Palestinian terrorist infiltrated the town of Mechora and murdered Yafit Herenstein, a 31-year-old...
August 10, 2002
80% of Israeli fatalities are unarmed civilians, most Palestinian fatalities are armed violent men
The International Policy Institute for Counter-Terrorism (www.ict.org.il) has published a statistical analysis of Palestinian and Israeli fatalities since Arafat and...
Palestinian murderer tries to kill dozens of civilians but fails
The Jerusalem Post (www.jpost.com) reports that a Palestinian genocide bomber tried to kill dozens of unarmed Israeli civilians, but did...
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That was half of the list I found. If you want the other half just ask.
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you could easily compile a list just as long of people murdered/removed/ethnically cleansed by israel during israel's creation and on through today. the only reason they are attacking you is because you are sitting right on their former land you kicked them off of, its not like they are a random group randomly attacking you poor innocent jews ::)
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you could easily compile a list just as long of people murdered/removed/ethnically cleansed by israel during israel's creation and on through today. the only reason they are attacking you is because you are sitting right on their former land you kicked them off of, its not like they are a random group randomly attacking you poor innocent jews ::)
Ethnic cleansing? Nice try.
Actually that's exactly what they're doing but I'm not surprised how blind you are and how much speculative garbage you've obviously soaked up.
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oh im sorry i forgot, the whole area was 'uninhabited' when you guys moved in right? ::) and the few who were there kindly moved along when you asked nicely and said please haha, oh those peaceful zionists.
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oh im sorry i forgot, the whole area was 'uninhabited' when you guys moved in right? ::) and the few who were there kindly moved along when you asked nicely and said please haha, oh those peaceful zionists.
your CT'er mentality coupled with your lack of education on top of throwing around "zionists" in every post, signals you either 1) live on welfare or 2) have a GED that suits you nicely.
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your CT'er mentality coupled with your lack of education on top of throwing around "zionists" in every post, signals you either 1) live on welfare or 2) have a GED that suits you nicely.
Seems to be the status quo for poor white people. Blame everything on the Jews or minorities while refuting zero of your points and throwing around CT bullshit.
The stupidity of some people on this forum is beyond astounding.
John Matrix is quite the whiny Muslim raghead.
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no i am against islam also. i think it is a virus that brings problems everywhere it goes. BUT, i cant stand how israel gets depicted only as a nation of super-righteous do-gooders, a nation of innocent, 'special' people who only have never done anything wrong to anyone and get unjustly attacked by the 'bad guys'.
truth is they are just as shitty and their hands are just as dirty as the ragheads you speak of. it just annoys me that american media looks the other way and chooses to depict israel as the height of morality and goodness when in fact they have much more in common with aparteid south africa or nazi germany as a state than with america.
its the double standard that pisses me off.
you guys know this, its just that you are both jews so you get defensive if anyone brings up the skeletons in the closet.
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no i am against islam also. i think it is a virus that brings problems everywhere it goes. BUT, i cant stand how israel gets depicted only as a nation of super-righteous do-gooders, a nation of innocent, 'special' people who only have never done anything wrong to anyone and get unjustly attacked by the 'bad guys'.
truth is they are just as shitty and their hands are just as dirty as the ragheads you speak of. it just annoys me that american media looks the other way and chooses to depict israel as the height of morality and goodness when in fact they have much more in common with aparteid south africa or nazi germany as a state than with america.
its the double standard that pisses me off.
you guys know this, its just that you are both jews so you get defensive if anyone brings up the skeletons in the closet.
I couldn't care less about Israel and I would have no qualms about them and the entire Middle East disappearing in a gigantic fireball. But you're a moron when you try to compare the two. Lebanon and Muslims idolize a guy who bashed a 4 year old child's head in with a rifle after making her watch him kill her father. Yes, that's really a group of people I should be giving a shit about.
Secondly, the Muslims have tried to take that land back TWICE now. Regardless of whether they're Jews or not, the Moslems lost that land. It's war. It's just like the Indians. They lost the land in war and now it's American land. If you live on any land that used to be Indian land while crying for Israel to leave what you think is Palestinian land, then you're nothing but a hypocrite. Plain and simple. Not that it matters, you're a self-deprecating Moslem.
Lastly, people bitch about Israel getting more money than the Arabs. Well, what happens to that Arab money? Usually lines the pockets of the government. Most Arab countries are corrupt beyond belief. Why should the USA give them more money? At least Israel puts it to some sort of use. How many billions have we donated to Muslim Pakistan now, and how many billions of that are unaccounted for?
Boo hoo hoo, the media this, the media that. Care to justify Hamas launching 2,000+ mortars and rockets at Sderot in the first six months of this year? How many rockets has Israel launched at Palestinian civilians when not trying to kill terrorists this year? Zero?
See, you can't refute these points because you're a fucking idiot. But that's to be expected. I would venture to guess that your biggest accomplishment in life was earning that GED at 24.
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its the double standard that pisses me off.
you guys know this, its just that you are both jews so you get defensive if anyone brings up the skeletons in the closet.
It's not a double standard, with respects to everything that seperates them, and debases them. Just by an unbiased comparison of their religious dogma one can see who the brighter of the two are.
lmao at "skeltons in the closet"
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It's not a double standard, with respects to everything that seperates them, and debases them. Just by an unbiased comparison of their religious dogma one can see who the brighter of the two are.
lmao at "skeltons in the closet"
Honestly, in the last 1500 years, what have Muslims brought to the world? Close to NOTHING. That's the truth and it stings Muslims like John Matrix.
It's going to be hilarious when they all turn on each other the day the oil runs out.
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Honestly, in the last 1500 years, what have Muslims brought to the world? Close to NOTHING.
This is true... I haven't seen anything good come from any of them... Nothing to advance humanity in any way shape or form... Isn't that what society is supposed to be about?
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This is true... I haven't seen anything good come from any of them... Nothing to advance humanity in any way shape or form... Isn't that what society is supposed to be about?
I have a huge problem with a group of people who would love nothing more than to cut my head off because I won't kneel down and pray five times a day because a fictional book written 1500 years ago by a pedophile barbarian tells me to. They want to send the rest of the planet back to the stone ages that an overwhelming number of them live in. No thanks.
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I have a huge problem with a group of people who would love nothing more than to cut my head off because I won't kneel down and pray five times a day because a fictional book written 1500 years ago by a pedophile barbarian tells me to. They want to send the rest of the planet back to the stone ages that an overwhelming number of them live in. No thanks.
I'm with you there... We could nuke them back to the stone age if they want it that badly though.
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This is true... I haven't seen anything good come from any of them... Nothing to advance humanity in any way shape or form... Isn't that what society is supposed to be about?
Oh come on now...they brought us:
Calligraphy
Persian carpets
Salmun Rushdie
Mosaic Art
Belly Dancing
Lyrical Poetry
Good music for haunting film soundtracks
Those things must count for something. :)
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Oh come on now...they brought us:
Calligraphy
Persian carpets
Salmun Rushdie
Mosaic Art
Belly Dancing
Lyrical Poetry
Good music for haunting film soundtracks
Those things must count for something. :)
Not so much.
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Not so much.
Pita bread? Hummus? Fallafel? Rose water?
That's pretty much all I got. The rest sucks.
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Pita bread? Hummus? Fallafel? Rose water?
That's pretty much all I got. The rest sucks.
Hummus gives me gas, your more than welcome to feel and huff, the punishment of Islam as it comes through the crack of my pants.
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Hummus gives me gas, your more than welcome to feel and huff, the punishment of Islam as it comes through the crack of my pants.
Thanks. :-X
Although if your gas was the worst of Islam's punishment, I think the world could live with it!
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no i am against islam also.
Thank you for admitting to be against Jews.
i think it is a virus that brings problems everywhere it goes. BUT, i cant stand how israel gets depicted only as a nation of super-righteous do-gooders, a nation of innocent, 'special' people who only have never done anything wrong to anyone and get unjustly attacked by the 'bad guys'.
It doesn't. The main stream media has been bashing Israel for decades.
Your reluctance to accept that the Palestinians ARE the bad guys speaks to your level of ignorance. Jews don't target civilians. Jews don't want every Muslim man, woman, and child brutally killed. Jews don't celebrate when 30 Muslims are slaughtered by terrorism. Jews don't participate in the killing of Palestinians just for being Palestinian. All of that is true of the opposite yet you think anyone will buy that the Jews are as guilty as the PL's?!?! ::) ::)
If PL civilians are killed by Israelis it's because terrorists are using them as human shields and cannot be avoided (even though Israel DOES try to not kill civilians). But if Israeli civilians are killed it is because the Palestinians TARGET THEM.
truth is they are just as shitty and their hands are just as dirty as the ragheads you speak of.
Further admittance to being an anti-semite.
it just annoys me that american media looks the other way and chooses to depict israel as the height of morality and goodness when in fact they have much more in common with aparteid south africa or nazi germany as a state than with america.
See above.
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Pita bread? Hummus? Fallafel? Rose water?
That's pretty much all I got. The rest sucks.
If that's the best, then they are screwed... I hate all of that stuff.
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That was half of the list I found. If you want the other half just ask.
::)
Come on bitch, summarize the entire thing for me. How many deaths, children deaths, Israeli soldiers in Palestinian jails, etc. I'll give you such a verbal whoop-ass that waterboarding will seem like drinking a friggin beer.
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You just blew your own argument. Did you ever think WHY PL kids are in so much danger? The terrorists are hiding amongst them, praise be to Allah!!!! hahahahahahah!!! JFC
So now you're not only wrong but you're too simple to read between the lines.. BIG surprise there! ::) ::)[...]
And you do not find anything wrong with the above lines? Am I the only one who sees something wrong with this shit(head)?
As far as the rest of the argument goes I actually agree with you that all Israelis should be able to stay in Israel if they so please, BUT they must learn to live with the Palestinians.
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you could easily compile a list just as long of people murdered/removed/ethnically cleansed by israel during israel's creation and on through today. the only reason they are attacking you is because you are sitting right on their former land you kicked them off of, its not like they are a random group randomly attacking you poor innocent jews ::)
He listed all the deaths in such a way as to make it visually impacting. That is why I asked him to summarize it. When he does that I will paste MY graphs and show you all WHO is doing most of the killings. The Nazis killed more Jews in ½ hour at Auschwitz than the Palestinians did in 60 years.
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Come on bitch, summarize the entire thing for me. How many deaths, children deaths, Israeli soldiers in Palestinian jails, etc. I'll give you such a verbal whoop-ass that waterboarding will seem like drinking a friggin beer.
MELTDOWN
Why so angry? ;D ..bitch, lol.
The only argument you have that even SOUNDS worthy is the death toll numbers, but the moment you look at why those numbers are skewed you see it's the Palestinians putting their own civilian population in harms way.
Read it for yourself unless it's too hard for you.
http://www.factsofisrael.com/blog/archives/cat_2_palestinian_terrorism.html
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Honestly, in the last 1500 years, what have Muslims brought to the world? Close to NOTHING. That's the truth and it stings Muslims like John Matrix.[...]
And what have the Jews brought to the world in the past 5000 years? Seinfeld? Monica Lewinski? That what you call "Judaica"? Nígga please!
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MELTDOWN
Why so angry? ;D ..bitch, lol.
The only argument you have that even SOUNDS worthy is the death toll numbers, but the moment you look at why those numbers are skewed you see it's the Palestinians putting their own civilian population in harms way.
Read it for yourself unless it's too hard for you.
http://www.factsofisrael.com/blog/archives/cat_2_palestinian_terrorism.html
Who is doing most of the dying?
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And what have the Jews brought to the world in the past 5000 years? Seinfeld? Monica Lewinski? That what you call "Judaica"? ½guy please!
...box of rocks.
Jews have drastically increased the wealth, prosperity, and standard of living in virtually every population they were accepted in.
Jews have been committed to the highest levels of generosity, community activism, civil service, public service, arts and entertainment, and held many of the most well respected and esteemed positions the world over.
Jews have particularly benefitted YOUR OWN COUNTRY.
Your stupidity is astounding.
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Who is doing most of the dying?
Those guilty and the people that harbor and support them.
.. go figure ;D
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He listed all the deaths in such a way as to make it visually impacting. That is why I asked him to summarize it. When he does that I will paste MY graphs and show you all WHO is doing most of the killings. The Nazis killed more Jews in ½ hour at Auschwitz than the Palestinians did in 60 years.
And what were the circumstances of the typical Israeli death at Palestinian hands? Who did what to whom and how often did these events occur?
You keep trying to justify Palestinian terrorism murdering Israeli civilians ON A FREQUENT AND REGULAR BASIS. Somehow I see this as a failing argument.
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...box of rocks.
Jews have drastically increased the wealth, prosperity, and standard of living in virtually every population they were accepted in.
And in which society have Jews been (totally) accepted?
Jews have been committed to the highest levels of generosity
What?! Jews generous?! Are you fucking for real?!
Jews have particularly benefitted YOUR OWN COUNTRY.
I'd say Jews habe benefited from my country.
Your stupidity is astounding.
And yours is world record-breaking!
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And in which society have Jews been (totally) accepted?
What?! Jews generous?! Are you fucking for real?!
I'd say Jews habe benefited from my country.
And yours is world record-breaking!
Totally? Nowhere. Mostly? A great many places. Europe before Nazism. North America.
So you don't think Jews are generous? Do you have any idea how much money Jewish communities donate to charity?
Oh, wait. You, being a typical, ignorant, and racist anti-semite, still believe Jews are stingy money hoarders. Oops.. my mistake. ::)
Jews HAVE benefitted from your country and VV JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE WHO LIVES HERE.
You still can't stand hearing good arguments, can you? I have yet to hear one drop of substance from a single post you've made.
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And what were the circumstances of the typical Israeli death at Palestinian hands? Who did what to whom and how often did these events occur?
You keep trying to justify Palestinian terrorism murdering Israeli civilians ON A FREQUENT AND REGULAR BASIS. Somehow I see this as a failing argument.
The fact is that more Palestinian males, females, children and elders die than Israelis. Palestinians get their houses bulldozed to the ground many more times than those of Israelis (it's actually Israelis who bulldoze their own people's houses). Israeli tanks invade Palestinian lands more times than those of the Palestinians (who do not have any). Etc.
Under these circumstances is it any wander Palestinian kids want to strap on some explosives and blow up the first Hasidic SOB they see walking down the street?
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The fact is that more Palestinian males, females, children and elders die than Israelis. Palestinians get their houses bulldozed to the ground many more times than those of Israelis (it's actually Israelis who bulldoze their own people's houses). Israeli tanks invade Palestinian lands more times than those of the Palestinians (who do not have any). Etc.
Under these circumstances is it any wander Palestinian kids want to strap on some explosives and blow up the first Hasidic SOB they see walking down the street?
You're getting steps one and two mixed up (big surprise there).
Terrorism causes an Israeli DEFENSIVE response.
When was the last time an Israeli, soldier OR civilian, decided they wanted to blow up a market in Gaza just because there are a lot of Palestinian CIVILIANS there? Please answer.
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The fact is that more Palestinian males, females, children and elders die than Israelis. Palestinians get their houses bulldozed to the ground many more times than those of Israelis (it's actually Israelis who bulldoze their own people's houses). Israeli tanks invade Palestinian lands more times than those of the Palestinians (who do not have any). Etc.
Actually the fact is you refuse to ask one question:
"why?"
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Totally? Nowhere. Mostly? A great many places. Europe before Nazism. North America.
I'm sorry to break it to ya but Europe has always been antisemite. Jews were never accepted in Europe, they put up with them because many Jews were in the business of lending money. But let's not forget that even before the Nazis did what they did the Spanish Inquisition had done worse. Same in Poland, Hungary, etc. If that is what you call "mostly accepted" them I'm Chuck Berry's bitch.
So you don't think Jews are generous?
Just last week, went out with the people at work and drunk our asses off. When it came time to fork over the money and pay for the $ 500.00 tab, who was the only one out of the 15 people who forgot to bring their debit cards or cash? The Jew. You can't make this stuff up!
Do you have any idea how much money Jewish communities donate to charity?
I do not know where you live, but over here in New York I'd say comparatively very little. Hell, 99% of the Hasidic community is on welfare having kid after kids after kid... I'd say I am the one giving money to the Jewish charities.
Oh, wait. You, being a typical, ignorant, and racist anti-semite, still believe Jews are stingy money hoarders. Oops.. my mistake. ::)
I am not an antisemite. I've already told you a thousand times. I am merely presenting the same case you are with the muslims and throwing it back at ya.
Jews HAVE benefitted from your country and VV.
I'd say exactly the opposite.
You still can't stand hearing good arguments, can you?
Not from you.
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You're getting steps one and two mixed up (big surprise there).
Terrorism causes an Israeli DEFENSIVE response.
When was the last time an Israeli, soldier OR civilian, decided they wanted to blow up a market in Gaza just because there are a lot of Palestinian CIVILIANS there? Please answer.
Many times over. The Israeli air force has been known to fire missiles at cars in the middle of heavy-trafficked roads.
And by the way, killing people has nothing to do with defense and all to do with offense.
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Bitch. Gotta go to sleep.
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And what have the Jews brought to the world in the past 5000 years? Seinfeld? Monica Lewinski? That what you call "Judaica"? Nígga please!
Hahaha, are you retarded? A number of the greatest scientists to ever live were Jews. They've also excelled in other fields.
What would the world be like if Muslims or blacks ran it? LOL. 100x worse.
By the way, don't answer my question. It's obvious you are. What an angry little kid. Can't believe you're actually stupid enough to say that. Oh wait, yes you are. You actually tried to justify launching 2,000 mortars and rockets at civilians. LOL.
Religion is a cancer. Islam happens to be the worst form of said cancer.
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I'm sorry to break it to ya but Europe has always been antisemite. Jews were never accepted in Europe, they put up with them because many Jews were in the business of lending money. But let's not forget that even before the Nazis did what they did the Spanish Inquisition had done worse. Same in Poland, Hungary, etc. If that is what you call "mostly accepted" them I'm Chuck Berry's bitch.
Just last week, went out with the people at work and drunk our asses off. When it came time to fork over the money and pay for the $ 500.00 tab, who was the only one out of the 15 people who forgot to bring their debit cards or cash? The Jew. You can't make this stuff up!
I do not know where you live, but over here in New York I'd say comparatively very little. Hell, 99% of the Hasidic community is on welfare having kid after kids after kid... I'd say I am the one giving money to the Jewish charities.
I am not an antisemite. I've already told you a thousand times. I am merely presenting the same case you are with the muslims and throwing it back at ya.
I'd say exactly the opposite.
Not from you.
So first you deny that Jews were thriving along with the societies in which they lived in massive numbers in eastern europe before the 1930's.. which is a fact.
Then you have a story about a jew who doesn't pay his tab (very compelling, indeed).
Then you lie twice by claiming jews (a) give very little to charity and (b) that 99% of the hassidic jews in nyc are on welfare... more like 1 in 5, and that's out of 5 POOR jewish households, not the entire population. http://www.newvoices.org/features/the-jewish-poor.html
Then you try to equate violence against civilian israeli jews as warranted as violence against militant palestinian communities who participate in and support terrorism (ie. hamas, etc.) Real objective there buddy ::)
To top it all off you argue without the use of supporting facts, motives behind the events, or logic.
::)
I think it's safe to say you've failed by epic proportions.
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Hahaha, are you retarded? A number of the greatest scientists to ever live were Jews. They've also excelled in other fields.
What would the world be like if Muslims or blacks ran it? LOL. 100x worse.
By the way, don't answer my question. It's obvious you are. What an angry little kid. Can't believe you're actually stupid enough to say that. Oh wait, yes you are. You actually tried to justify launching 2,000 mortars and rockets at civilians. LOL.[...]
I tried what? You are funny my friend!!
Do me a favor, post the exact comment where I say such a thing.
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So first you deny that Jews were thriving along with the societies in which they lived in massive numbers in eastern europe before the 1930's.. which is a fact.
Some, yes. All? No. And it's one thing to "thrive," which is what you are saying, and another very different to be "accepted", which is what I said. Jews were NEVER accepted in Europe. Put up with? Yes.
Then you have a story about a jew who doesn't pay his tab (very compelling, indeed).
Come one, you can't make this stuff up! 15 people. 1 bar. Drinking shots. Drunk senseless. We get the check and the ONLY one who didn't bring any money, credit or debit card and never said so before he started drinking... Come on dude!! Everyone's putting 50s on the table, going well over fair share, and this guy doesn't even say "Joe, lend me 50 bucks will ya?". He does not have any money and does not plan to pay for it later. Loves to take part in the fun without having to pay for it. Typical Judaika.
Then you lie twice by claiming jews (a) give very little to charity and (b) that 99% of the hassidic jews in nyc are on welfare... more like 1 in 5, and that's out of 5 POOR jewish households, not the entire population. http://www.newvoices.org/features/the-jewish-poor.html
Are you kidding me? Hasidics are all on welfare. It's NY's "little secret". The only reason why it's not public knowledge is because they go to their own supermarkets, buy only at their (Kosher) stores, etc.
Then you try to equate violence against civilian israeli jews as warranted as violence against militant palestinian communities who participate in and support terrorism (ie. hamas, etc.) Real objective there buddy ::)
There you go again, missing the point. Are all Palestinian people actual terrorists?
To top it all off you argue without the use of supporting facts, motives behind the events, or logic.
I do not have to provide any fact because you're already seen them in the other thread. Graphs don't lie.
I think it's safe to say you've failed by epic proportions.
You're like a walking bilboard my friend. You make the comment and you agree with yourself. You are one confused Jew.
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Some, yes. All? No. And it's one thing to "thrive," which is what you are saying, and another very different to be "accepted", which is what I said. Jews were NEVER accepted in Europe. Put up with? Yes.
You're ignoring the fact that they are a benefit to the societies in which they have been allowed to participate.
Come one, you can't make this stuff up! 15 people. 1 bar. Drinking shots. Drunk senseless. We get the check and the ONLY one who didn't bring any money, credit or debit card and never said so before he started drinking... Come on dude!! Everyone's putting 50s on the table, going well over fair share, and this guy doesn't even say "Joe, lend me 50 bucks will ya?". He does not have any money and does not plan to pay for it later. Loves to take part in the fun without having to pay for it. Typical Judaika.
Your last two words expose your ignorance and blindness. There are bad apples in every culture. Why you would take that as typical is testament to how you are only seeing what you choose to see and using one bad example to so easily ignore the reality.. that Jews are mostly generous, honorable, and fair people.
Are you kidding me? Hasidics are all on welfare. It's NY's "little secret". The only reason why it's not public knowledge is because they go to their own supermarkets, buy only at their (Kosher) stores, etc.
I just showed you how you were wrong using facts. You have further exposed your ignorance.
There you go again, missing the point. Are all Palestinian people actual terrorists?
Of course not. Show me where I said "all." The point is that the majority of that culture has been supporting the terrorism for decades. It's not even debatable but I know you hate looking at the facts.
I do not have to provide any fact because you're already seen them in the other thread. Graphs don't lie.
You haven't contributed one piece of actual evidence to the discussion. Furthermore, you cite a graph that is incredibly misleading. Epic fail.
You're like a walking bilboard my friend. You make the comment and you agree with yourself. You are one confused Jew.
Please show me one fallacy and support it with facts that cannot be disputed or shown to be misleading. Otherwise feel free to point this accusation at yourself. So far you've argued with no facts, no resources, no objectivity.. only slander and prejudicial and baseless accusations. Then you topped it all off with vehement anti-semitism.