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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: NarcissisticDeity on August 22, 2008, 08:31:45 PM
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HA Ha ha ha pics look NOTHING like the photoshopped screencaps Hulkster has been posting for eons , Don't get me wrong Ronnie looks great just not as great as the screencaps , Hulkster whats the explanation now? lol
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:o
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Its clear from these pics Ronnie wasn't as sharp as he was in 1998
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:D
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:)
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Its clear from these pics Ronnie wasn't as sharp as he was in 1998
At least he somewhat got rid of the gyno :-\
Markus looked freaky that year by the way.
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I dunno... ronnie looks pretty awesome there. Maybe if you posed some shots of him fully fexed ::)
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Isn't there a thread for this?
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still owns dorian, all that matters :D
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is ronald supposed to look bad in these pics??
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:o :o :o
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/99%20Mr%20Olympia/99MrO-Ronnie71.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/99%20Mr%20Olympia/99MrO-Ronnie72.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/99%20Mr%20Olympia/99MrO-Ronnie73.jpg)
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Ronnie 1999 was vastly overrated. Flex won that show. He was fuller but holding water and his proportions were not nearly as good as in the previous year. Ronnie 1998 was one of the greatest physiques ever, but he failed in 1999.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Mr. Levrone's worst look ever
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Ronnie 1999 was vastly overrated. Flex won that show. He was fuller but holding water and his proportions were not nearly as good as in the previous year. Ronnie 1998 was one of the greatest physiques ever, but he failed in 1999.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Wrong as usual. It astounds me how you are incorrect in every single assertion. You are an absolute blithering idiot.
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did Rhul has some kind of problem with his belly button? it looks like its sticking out way too much.
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most of them are black!
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Ronnie 1999 was vastly overrated. Flex won that show. He was fuller but holding water and his proportions were not nearly as good as in the previous year. Ronnie 1998 was one of the greatest physiques ever, but he failed in 1999.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
are you blind ?
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Wrong as usual. It astounds me how you are incorrect in every single assertion. You are an absolute blithering idiot.
Lol, meltdown. Who the fuck do you think you are, rookie? STFU noob. Go get at least another two stars by your username before you direct your word to me.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I dunno... ronnie looks pretty awesome there. Maybe if you posed some shots of him fully fexed ::)
I posted pic of what they have don't blame me ;)
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is ronald supposed to look bad in these pics??
No he's not just not anything like the photoshopped screencaps these idiots have been posting forever
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Man i miss them competitors. All that there own sort of style. Yeah levrone doesnt look so hot. Ruhl the freak with the wierd hair looks huge. I cant remeber that other foreign guy with the sickest legs he was always a fun freak and of course dillet.
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If i had to pic a physique from there i would pic flex wheeler
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The year my dawg, Flex Wheeler, should've won. :(
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HA Ha ha ha pics look NOTHING like the photoshopped screencaps Hulkster has been posting for eons , Don't get me wrong Ronnie looks great just not as great as the screencaps , Hulkster whats the explanation now? lol
I still think he looks amazing like you say.
Yates 93 Olympia appearance didn't actually look anything like the famous b/w pics. Higher contrast in a pic means more definition.
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I still think he looks amazing like you say.
Yates 93 Olympia appearance didn't actually look anything like the famous b/w pics. Higher contrast in a pic means more definition.
tell that to them
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Wrong as usual. It astounds me how you are incorrect in every single assertion. You are an absolute blithering idiot.
LOL, this comment is just too funny. Sad, but true. ;D
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Yates 93 Olympia appearance didn't actually look anything like the famous b/w pics. Higher contrast in a pic means more definition.
That's the same reason the black and white, non-contest shots are trotted out at every turn.
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Mr. Levrone's worst look ever
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BUT, have you seen the LEVROWNING that is happening in that pic !!!! :o :o :o 8)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=230391.0;attach=269829;image)
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BUT, have you seen the LEVROWNING that is happening in that pic !!!! :o :o :o 8)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=230391.0;attach=269829;image)
oh yes he definitely dished out some levrOWNINGS that night but he was too bloated compared to the awesome specimen we are used to seeing
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LOL, this comment is just too funny. Sad, but true. ;D
This coming from the f.a.g.g.o.t who posted photoshopped pics and was caught in the act. This coming from a lying, thieving bastard who doesen't know two shits about bodybuilding and pretends to speak from authority even though he's a dumbass.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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oh yes he definitely dished out some levrOWNINGS that night but he was too bloated compared to the awesome specimen we are used to seeing
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we can agree on this bro
Levroneites unite 8)
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Ronnie 1999 is vastly overrated. His muscles were fuller and rounder than in the previous year, yes, but at what cost? He was holding water, especially in his chest and back, his gut was already protruding, his abs were even worse than in the previous year and had proportions were awful. His calves were even more of a liability compared to his quads, his forearms and triceps even more of a liability compared to his biceps and his ass even more of a liability in his entire back view.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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of course, hulkster hasnt responded yet. he probably wont.
but, he'll continue to use the altered screen caps to make ronnie "the best of all time".
he'll make up some silly excuse and post a most muscular of ronnie with the fake screen caps from the "dvd" vs. a magazine pic of yates from 94.
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of course, hulkster hasnt responded yet. he probably wont.
but, he'll continue to use the altered screen caps to make ronnie "the best of all time".
he'll make up some silly excuse and post a most muscular of ronnie with the fake screen caps from the "dvd" vs. a magazine pic of yates from 94.
He ' responded ' in the other thread posted this is the day we've been dreading LMFAO like I didn't post pictures from the 1999 Olympia 4 years ago lol its the day he's been dreading because its more pictures of the contest that look NOTHING like the photoshopped ones he posted as ' overwhelming visual evidence ' lol
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most of them are black!
and bald
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=230391.0;attach=269812;image)
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most of them are black!
well spotted!! You should work for NASA
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and bald
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=230391.0;attach=269812;image)
So gay....
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Its clear from these pics Ronnie wasn't as sharp as he was in 1998
WTF?
are you for real?
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dumbest thread in the history of the net right here.
look how much "softer' ronnie was in 99: ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
jesus FUCK ND you are retarded:
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98 vs 99 LOL
no difference - if anything, he looks harder in 99:
ND, what will your excuse be this time?
I can't wait until they post more shots to own your stupid ass:
many eyewitnesses have stated ronnie was sharper in 99, including professional contest reveiwers (musclemag) and ND claims they are wrong, while showing pics showing the EXACT OPPOSITE LOL ::)
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yeah, look everyone, look how much softer Ronnie was in 99 LOL
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ND should be banned for being irreducibly stupid..
no wonder he ran away from the truce thead.
I would too if I was that much of a blithering delusional idiot...
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Ronnie 1999 was vastly overrated. Flex won that show. He was fuller but holding water and his proportions were not nearly as good as in the previous year. Ronnie 1998 was one of the greatest physiques ever, but he failed in 1999.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Wow you're a complete idiot.
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I dunno... ronnie looks pretty awesome there. Maybe if you posed some shots of him fully fexed ::)
typical ND fashion.
post some pics of Ronnie like this and making assessments about his physique LOL:
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LOL yeah, ND claims Ronnie 99 was 'clearly softer' from the pics compared to 99,
we can see that between this idiot, and Suckmyasshole's hilarious assessment of 99, these guys are the most delusional posters on this whole board:
LOL
yeah, clearly softer LOL
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Wow you're a complete idiot.
Wow, that is such a profound statement. Now let's hear your exact reason(s) for why you believe that I'm wrong about this. C'mon, I'm waiting. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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wow ronnie is looking amazing in those pics
haha dexter looks the same as he does today
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just to let the other getbiggers know, this is the REAL reason why ND has his panties in a bunch:
it drives him nuts:
he has been BEGGING muscletime to stop posting any more 99 olympia shots, for this reason: lol
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WTF?
are you for real?
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dumbest thread in the history of the net right here.
look how much "softer' ronnie was in 99: ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
jesus FUCK ND you are retarded:
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98 vs 99 LOL
no difference - if anything, he looks harder in 99:
ND, what will your excuse be this time?
I can't wait until they post more shots to own your stupid ass:
many eyewitnesses have stated ronnie was sharper in 99, including professional contest reveiwers (musclemag) and ND claims they are wrong, while showing pics showing the EXACT OPPOSITE LOL ::)
You're an outright LIAR start posting all these quotes from the ' many eyewitnesses and professional contest reviewers " come on Hulkster we're all waiting ;)
Shawn Perine Ironage Dec 11, 2004
As much as I love Haney and my IA champs, I think Ronnie circa '98 or at the 2001 Arnold is pretty much untouchable. Except by Dorian Yates 6 weeks out from the '93 O as photographed by our own KMH. Both men, on those specific occasions carried so much dry muscle mass in good proportion and with good lines that it's almost unfair to compare them to others.
No mention of the 199 Mr Olympia for a reason ;) because his conditioning wasn't at its best
review of mr. olympia 1999, january 2000, page 90:
257 pounds, a good seven pounds heavier than last year and the clear winner, ALTHOUGH NOT AS BONE DRY OR AS ROCK HARD IN 98. In comparison to 98, his thighs are enourmous with a greater sweep and his front delts have improved; plus the pec anomaly (gyno) is no longer present.
Impressive split biceps. An awesome back double biceps on which muscle fights with muscle to hang onto his frame. A big, big lat spead promted Dorian "backman" yates to comment, "ronnie looks like a cartoon character". when doing back poses, ronnie would hitch up his trunks to expose ripped glutes.
opps there gies your claims ;)
Quote Peter McGough Flex Magazine Jan 2001
RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .
Oh snap looks like your getting bitch slapped at every turn lmao
Ronnie what was your best Olympia and why?
Ronnie: I would have to say my first because my conditioning was spot on.
For all your lies and all your fake quotes and your photoshopped pics you're still wrong and still stupid ;)
Hulkster = owned
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I have the links on my home computer.
I will post them.
Ronnie stated quite clearly that he was bigger in 99 with a bit better conditionin than 98 in his 99 victory seminar.
Musclemag's contest review from Johnny Fitness also stated that ronnie was 'sharper than last year'
I have that link too.
ND, you are FUCKED.
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ps stop pretending you don't know about these statements.
you choose to pretend they don't exist because they work against your bullshit.
you are a pathetic delusional man for taking us all for idiots.
we know these statements are there, we know that the visuals work against you and we know that you can't do anything about it except whine and moan.
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just to let the other getbiggers know, this is the REAL reason why ND has his panties in a bunch:
it drives him nuts:
he has been BEGGING muscletime to stop posting any more 99 olympia shots, for this reason: lol
I like the muscletime pics they show what we knew all along your PHOTOSHOPPED screen caps were nothing like he appeared contest day ;)
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I have the links on my home computer.
I will post them.
Ronnie stated quite clearly that he was bigger in 99 with a bit better conditionin than 98 in his 99 victory seminar.
Musclemag's contest review from Johnny Fitness also stated that ronnie was 'sharper than last year'
I have that link too.
ND, you are FUCKED.
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ps stop pretending you don't know about these statements.
you choose to pretend they don't exist because they work against your bullshit.
you are a pathetic delusional man for taking us all for idiots.
we know these statements are there, we know that the visuals work against you and we know that you can't do anything about it except whine and moan.
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Great job avoiding every single quote that just shut you up and lets say Ronnie did say that at the seminar it doesn't matter at the recap of his career when asked the question he had time to reflect on his career and he said specifically 1998 was his best , which coincides with all the professionals and because his conditioning was SPOT ON
if as you claim 1999 he was just as hard and just as dry 1999 would be considered his best overallshowing and NOT 1998 and 2001 ;) NO ONE says 1999 is his best showing NO ONE expect diluted fan-boys and ignorant dummies ;)
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Ronnie 1999 is overrated
His abs sucked!
His taper was nowhere near as good as in the previous year!!
His triceps, brachialis and forearms sucked dick compared to his biceps resulting in imbalance!!!!!
His calves were even more of a liability compared to his quads!!!!
His enormous ass ruined his entire proportions from the back!!!!!!!!
The separations on his back were nowhere near as good as in the previous year!!!!!
His chest was puffy and holding water!!!!!!!
His gut showed distension, unlike in the previous year
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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LOL ND freaking out on the defensive AS ALWAYS LOL
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damn ronnie look great in these pics
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LOL ND freaking out on the defensive AS ALWAYS LOL
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Hulkster still running from why his photoshopped pics look NOTHING like the muscletime pics ;) you're the one behind the 8-ball lol
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Ronnie 1999 is overrated
His abs sucked!
His taper was nowhere near as good as in the previous year!!
His triceps, brachialis and forearms sucked dick compared to his biceps resulting in imbalance!!!!!
His calves were even more of a liability compared to his quads!!!!
His enormous ass ruined his entire proportions from the back!!!!!!!!
The separations on his back were nowhere near as good as in the previous year!!!!!
His chest was puffy and holding water!!!!!!!
His gut showed distension, unlike in the previous year
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Hulkster said peak Ronnie didn't have a gut ???
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Hulkster said peak Ronnie didn't have a gut ???
Massively overrated in every sense of the word. Just the huge ass makes him deserve to lose the Olympia because that contest was created to find the World's best built man, and a huge ass is a female characteristic.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Hulkster still running from why his photoshopped pics look NOTHING like the muscletime pics ;) you're the one behind the 8-ball lol
When have any photographer pics EVER looked exactly like ANY screencap?
they always look a little different.
nothing new here.
damn your stupid. ::)
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Massively overrated in every sense of the word. Just the huge ass makes him deserve to lose the Olympia because that contest was created to find the World's best built man, and a huge ass is a female characteristic.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Coleman's 1998 Olympia victory] was not a definitive win. In 99, Big Ron was lucky to defeat Flex Wheeler again. Levrone thought he'd beaten him twice, in 2000 and 2002. At the 2002 show, Levrone had won both of the evening rounds (a year on, at the Olympia press conference before the 2003 show, Coleman would chide Levrone, asking him, 'When was the last time you beat me?' Levrone replied, 'Last year.'). In 2001, Jay Cutler beat Ronnie in both the first two rounds and lost by four points.
Coleman had not replicated the dominance of Haney and Yates. He always seemed slightly vulnerable, protected as much by protocol as his physique
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When have any photographer pics EVER looked like ANY screencap?
nothing new here.
damn your stupid. ::)
You're stupid for trying to pass them off as ' overwhemling visual evidence ' ;)
you're stupid for thinking 1999 was his best showing which you can't find ANY credible source to verify ;)
You're stupid for claiming Ronnie 1997 crushes Dorian 1995 Olympia ;)
You're stupid for claiming Ronnie 99 has more detailed calves than Dorian ;)
do I really need to continue?
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Great side triceps Ronnie lol
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Coleman's 1998 Olympia victory] was not a definitive win. In 99, Big Ron was lucky to defeat Flex Wheeler again. Levrone thought he'd beaten him twice, in 2000 and 2002. At the 2002 show, Levrone had won both of the evening rounds (a year on, at the Olympia press conference before the 2003 show, Coleman would chide Levrone, asking him, 'When was the last time you beat me?' Levrone replied, 'Last year.'). In 2001, Jay Cutler beat Ronnie in both the first two rounds and lost by four points.
Coleman had not replicated the dominance of Haney and Yates. He always seemed slightly vulnerable, protected as much by protocol as his physique
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How can you be the World's best built man if you look like a preganant woman with a large ass, or worse, as a fat man with a large ass? ??? :-\
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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How can you bee the World's best built man if you look like a preganant woman with a large ass, or worse, as a fat man with a large ass? ??? :-\
SUCKMYMUSCLE
so, peashooter arms, missing arm, keg waist, aids man quads and a shitty front side are okay?
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so, we know that muscletime will likely post many more 99 shots,
ND, do you have any fingernails left?
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hahahaha, yeah Dorian's triceps are absolutely MASSIVE here. ;D
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hahahaha, yeah Dorian's triceps are absolutely MASSIVE here. ;D
Epic gay4pay stare, brutal acting as though he just pulled that sword out of the stone to become King Arthur.
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hahahaha, yeah Dorian's triceps are absolutely MASSIVE here. ;D
Next
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Great side triceps Ronnie lol
According to SemenHole, Ronnie's triceps were lower than Dorian's. On the contrary, it is exactly because Dorian's triceps attached lower in the tendom that their shape were so superior to Ronnie's in the side triceps pose. The superior shape results from the lower attachment in the tendom.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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brutally huge arms and legs. ;D
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so, we know that muscletime will likely post many more 99 shots,
ND, do you have any fingernails left?
Hulkster the muscletime pictures proved like my scans did that your photoshopped screencaps were junk and a very desperate attempt to prove you were right ;) these pictures will NEVER live up to the hype you created
like I said before 1999 Olympia , who cares? he still NOT has hard or as dry as Dorian , his still behind in muscular bulk , balance & proportion lol 1999 is NOT his best for a reason ;)
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these arms must be the biggest in the history of the business. ;D
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these arms must be the biggest in the history of the business. ;D
Next , posting pics of off years means your scared of on years for a reason ;)
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so, peashooter arms, missing arm, keg waist, aids man quads and a shitty front side are okay?
Dorian's arms were massive although undersized for his torso. However, this is not as severe a liability as a large gut and ass.
Dorian's front was not shitty. His lats popped out more than any other bodybuilder in history and his abs were some of the best ever seen on a bodybuilder over 250 lbs.
Dorian's gut was never as distended as Ronnie's at the 1999 Olympia except in 1997.
Dorian's ass was never even remotely as large as Coleman's.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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brutally huge arms and legs. ;D
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Ronnie's arms still KILL Dorian's in any year.
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hahahahaaa. ;D
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Ronnie's arms still KILL Dorian's in any year.
LMFAO typical fan-boy statement
yeah that 220 pound Ronnie's arms are really crushing Yates
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hahahahaaa. ;D
ain't laughing now are we? same contest ;)
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hahahaha, are they even 18 inches here? ;D
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hahahaha, are they even 18 inches here? ;D
Ha Ha Ha Dave claiming his arms are bigger than Dorian Yates? lol
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Ronnie dominated. It couldn't be more obvious!
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Ronnie dominated. It couldn't be more obvious!
Flex disagrees ;)
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epic 12 inch neck and zero traps.
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ain't laughing now are we? same contest ;)
nice sharpening job on the one pic there ND.
busted loser ::)
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epic 12 inch neck and zero traps.
So are your arms the same size as Dorians? ;)
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nice sharpening job on the one pic there ND.
busted loser ::)
lmfao see projection ! ;) I don't tamper with pics and never have thats your boy bizzy
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So are your arms the same size as Dorians? ;)
never said that at all, i'm saying that for a Mr. Olympia his arms were and are pathetic.
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never said that at all, i'm saying that for a Mr. Olympia his arms were and are pathetic.
NO you did say that your arms are 18 and so are his LMFAO
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How can you be the World's best built man if you look like a preganant woman with a large ass, or worse, as a fat man with a large ass?
you tell me ;)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/DorianYates-FatCow11.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/DorianYates-FatCow12.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/DorianYatesFatBelly3.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/DorianYates-FatCow8.jpg)
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you tell me? ;)
You have to admit it doesn't look as bad as Ronnie? his gut is made worse by his short torso
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You have to admit it doesn't look as bad as Ronnie? his gut is made worse by his short torso
Dorian's gut looks worse in my opinion b/c it's compounded by a wide waist and smaller arms, making him look like a barrel with twigs sticking out.
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/93%20Mr%20Olympia/TwigsOnBarrel.jpg)
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cool-ive never seen this dorian pic before
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/93%20Mr%20Olympia/TwigsOnBarrel.jpg)
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Dorian's gut looks worse in my opinion b/c it's compounded by a wide waist, giving it a barrel appearance.
I disagree because his waist is naturally wider it doesn't seen as pronounced and Yates did a better jog at holding it tight , Ronnie just didn't care
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cool-ive never seen this dorian pic before
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/93%20Mr%20Olympia/TwigsOnBarrel.jpg)
Sure you have thats from 97 when he crushed Nasser ;)
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I disagree because his waist is naturally wider it doesn't seen as pronounced and Yates did a better jog at holding it tight , Ronnie just didn't care
depending on the year, Ronnie carried the extra mass to compensate for his stomach distention. Dorian's gut seemed to grow despite weighing the same from year to year.
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depending on the year, Ronnie carried the extra mass to compensate for his gut.
extra mass ? 247 pounds ::)
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depending on the year, Ronnie carried the extra mass to compensate for his stomach distention. Dorian's gut seemed to grow despite weighing the same from year to year.
he didnt' weight the same year to year
92 -242 pounds
93 - 257 pounds
94 - 262 pounds
95 - 260 pounds
96 - 257 pounds
97 - 270 pounds
his gut was worse at 270 pounds Ronnie was horrible at 247 pounds big difference no pun
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extra mass ? 247 pounds
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(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/93%20Mr%20Olympia/DorianYates-FatCow4.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/93%20Mr%20Olympia/DorianYates-FatCow3.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/93%20Mr%20Olympia/DorianYates-FatCow5.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/93%20Mr%20Olympia/DorianYates-FatCow6.jpg)
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(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/93%20Mr%20Olympia/DorianYates-FatCow4.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/93%20Mr%20Olympia/DorianYates-FatCow3.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/93%20Mr%20Olympia/DorianYates-FatCow5.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/93%20Mr%20Olympia/DorianYates-FatCow6.jpg)
His gut is NOT protruding like Ronnie 01 sorry sport and even if it was he's still 10 pounds havier to compensate for it thats the difference
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he didnt' weight the same year to year
92 -242 pounds
93 - 257 pounds
94 - 262 pounds
95 - 260 pounds
96 - 257 pounds
97 - 270 pounds
Oooooh, you showed me. ::)
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Oooooh, you showed me. ::)
still not the same ;) and don't go by the number go by how he looked in 1996 he was 257 but small & depleted he didn't look anything like 1993 but again Ronnie was light with a huge gut he didn't have the extra mass to compensate for it at 247 pounds
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His gut is NOT protruding like Ronnie 01 sorry sport and even if it was he's still 10 pounds havier to compensate for it thats the difference
wtf are you talking about? Dorian's gut is just as bad if not worse and his arms and legs are smaller, further enhancing the illusion of size of his gut.
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still not the same and don't go by the number go by how he looked in 1996 he was 257 but small & depleted he didn't look anything like 1993 but again Ronnie was light with a huge gut he didn't have the extra mass to compensate for it at 247 pounds
ha ha ha, have you lost your marbles? Dorian's weight deviated 3 lbs at most from 260 lbs during 4 yrs. He basically weighed the same yet his gut continued to grow.
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ha ha ha, have you lost your marbles? Dorian's weight deviated 3 lbs at most from 260 lbs during 4 yrs. He basically weighed the same yet his gut continued to grow.
it doesn't matter what the original point was dummy Ronnie had a massive gut without being able to compensate for it with extra mass , look at his gut 2001 at a maximum of 247 pounds thats worse than Yates and why? because he has a shorter torso Dorian doesn't so his gut is more distributed Ronnie's is in a more confined area hence why it protrudes more thats the point
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it doesn't matter what the original point was dummy
yes, it does. Don't packpeddle after being proven wrong about Dorian's weight.
Ronnie had a massive gut without being able to compensate for it with extra mass , look at his gut 2001 at a maximum of 247 pounds thats worse than Yates and why? because he has a shorter torso Dorian doesn't so his gut is more distributed Ronnie's is in a more confined area hence why it protrudes more thats the point
both men had guts. However, Ronnie in 03 outweighed Dorian by almost 30 lbs. So yes, Ronnie carried the extra muscle mass to compensate for his gut.
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yes, it does. Don't packpeddle after being proven wrong about Dorian's weight.
both men had guts. However, Ronnie in 03 outweighed Dorian by almost 30 lbs. So yes, Ronnie carried the extra muscle mass to compensate for his gut.
NO I'm actuyally right it doesn't matter if it is by only 3 pounds I'm still right ;)
and stop equating 30 pounds of redundant size for quality muscle , he was soft in 2003 and his balance & proportion were way off from his best nevermind Dorians and his gut in 03 was horrible as well so you're right back to square one , it reminds me of McGough stating the obvious a heavier Ronnie standing next to a rock hard Yates would just look soft and the judges would see that as well
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NO I'm actuyally right it doesn't matter if it is by only 3 pounds I'm still right
you believe that if it makes you feel better. ;)
and stop equating 30 pounds of redundant size for quality muscle , he was soft in 2003 and his balance & proportion were way off from his best nevermind Dorians and his gut in 03 was horrible as well so you're right back to square one , it reminds me of McGough stating the obvious a heavier Ronnie standing next to a rock hard Yates would just look soft and the judges would see that as well
redundant size is unrefined mas. Ronnie in 03 had plenty of separations and striations from head to toe, and those in attendance remarked about his conditioning.
Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004
"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."
Mike Matarazzo - Flex, January 2004
"Ronnie had so much dense muscle that it looked as though his skin could no longer hold it and he'd explode. His quads were so full and dense, they don't look real. He's an amazing individual, an amazing athlete. He's just a freak."
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you believe that if it makes you feel better. ;)
redundant size is unrefined mas. Ronnie in 03 had plenty of separations and striations from head to toe, and those in attendance remarked about his conditioning.
Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004
"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."
Mike Matarazzo - Flex, January 2004
"Ronnie had so much dense muscle that it looked as though his skin could no longer hold it and he'd explode. His quads were so full and dense, they don't look real. He's an amazing individual, an amazing athlete. He's just a freak."
you believe that if it makes you feel better. ;)
I'm still right regardless if its only by 3 pounds ;)
Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004
"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."
Mike Matarazzo - Flex, January 2004
"Ronnie had so much dense muscle that it looked as though his skin could no longer hold it and he'd explode. His quads were so full and dense, they don't look real. He's an amazing individual, an amazing athlete. He's just a freak."
Again he wasn't as hard or as dry as he was early on his career old news , stop equating extra size with extra conditioned size , you know like the conditioned size he had in 1998/2001 he's not anywhere near as conditioned as these two contests couple that with his lacking balance & proportion and any size advantage is meaningless
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03 V 98 MASSIVE difference in density & dryness and detail and balance and proportion
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While not 2003 you can still see the huge discrepancy between the hardness & dryness
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I'm still right regardless if its only by 3 pounds
I could care less if the difference was 1 ounce. The fact you're grasping at straws here shows the weakness of your argument. ;)
Again he wasn't as hard or as dry as he was early on his career old news , stop equating extra size with extra conditioned size , you know like the conditioned size he had in 1998/2001 he's not anywhere near as conditioned as these two contests couple that with his lacking balance & proportion and any size advantage is meaningless
I never said he was, dipshit. The fact remains Ronnie was in great condition at the 03 Mr. Olympia. He still had separations and striations from head to toe and I posted a quote from somewhere who was there saying Ronnie carried dense muscle. Your quote from Peter McGough only tells us Ronnie wasn't as conditioned as he was in 98/01. No kidding. ::)
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I could care less if the difference was 1 ounce. The fact you're grasping at straws here shows the weakness of your argument. ;)
I never said he was, dipshit. The fact remains Ronnie was in great condition at the 03 Mr. Olympia. He still had separations and striations from head to toe and I posted a quote from somewhere who was there saying Ronnie carried dense muscle. Your quote from Peter McGough only tells us Ronnie wasn't as conditioned as he was in 98/01. No kidding. ::)
are you inferring that a Mr. Olympia should have a better FDB than this, Neo?
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are you inferring that a Mr. Olympia should have a better FDB than this, Neo?
minus the torn bicep? No. Dorian had a great front double biceps pose. However, he should have been penalized after tearing his bicep. The "best built man on the planet" shouldn't have a torn muscle. period.
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Ronnie still looks awesome.
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minus the torn bicep? No. Dorian had a great front double biceps pose. However, he should have been penalized after tearing his bicep. The "best built man on the planet" shouldn't have a torn muscle. period.
But its okay to have two missing calves? ;)
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I could care less if the difference was 1 ounce. The fact you're grasping at straws here shows the weakness of your argument. ;)
I never said he was, dipshit. The fact remains Ronnie was in great condition at the 03 Mr. Olympia. He still had separations and striations from head to toe and I posted a quote from somewhere who was there saying Ronnie carried dense muscle. Your quote from Peter McGough only tells us Ronnie wasn't as conditioned as he was in 98/01. No kidding. ::)
I could care less if the difference was 1 ounce. The fact you're grasping at straws here shows the weakness of your argument. ;)
It doesn't matter he still wasn't the same like you claimed , you're still wrong no matter how small the difference
I never said he was, dipshit. The fact remains Ronnie was in great condition at the 03 Mr. Olympia. He still had separations and striations from head to toe and I posted a quote from somewhere who was there saying Ronnie carried dense muscle. Your quote from Peter McGough only tells us Ronnie wasn't as conditioned as he was in 98/01. No kidding. ::)
I always said his conditioning was acceptable in 03 but still not on par with his best showings and STILL NOT as good as Dorian so any advantage in muscular bulk becomes moot when its at the expense of density & dryness and balance & proportion
Dorian may be down 18 pounds but he's up on density , dryness , and balance & proportion and posing and he's still NOT complete either
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But its okay to have two missing calves?
if you want to play dumb, Dorian is missing biceps and upper pecs.
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if you want to play dumb, Dorian is missing biceps and upper pecs.
lmfao missing upper pecs ::) and Dorian's biceps weren't missing they were good not great Ronnie calves suck they're not even good not in shape , length , development , proportion
You're high if you think there is anything wrong with his upper pecs
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It doesn't matter he still wasn't the same like you claimed , you're still wrong no matter how small the difference
again, I could really care less. I was generalizing when I said he weighed the same from 93-96. ;)
I always said his conditioning was acceptable in 03 but still not on par with his best showings and STILL NOT as good as Dorian so any advantage in muscular bulk becomes moot when its at the expense of density & dryness and balance & proportion
the difference in size > the difference in conditioning. Ronnie outweighed Dorian by 30 lbs. The only way for you to claim his advantage in muscular bulk becomes moot at the expense of conditioning would be to prove he carried 30 lbs of fat and water.
Dorian may be down 18 pounds but he's up on density , dryness , and balance & proportion and posing and he's still NOT complete either
where did you come up with 18 lbs? Dorian weighed 257 lbs in 93 and Ronnie weighed 287 lbs in 03. That's a difference of 30 lbs. Ronnie also has the advantage in separations, striations, symmetry, shape, and fullness.
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again, I could really care less. I was generalizing when I said he weighed the same from 93-96. ;)
the difference in size > the difference in conditioning. Ronnie outweighed Dorian by 30 lbs. The only way for you to claim his advantage in muscular bulk becomes moot at the expense of conditioning would be to prove he carried 30 lbs of fat and water.
where did you come up with 18 lbs? Dorian weighed 257 lbs in 93 and Ronnie weighed 287 lbs in 03. That's a difference of 30 lbs. Ronnie also has the advantage in separations, striations, symmetry, shape, and fullness.
again, I could really care less. I was generalizing when I said he weighed the same from 93-96. ;)
I know you could care less because you;re wrong
the difference in size > the difference in conditioning. Ronnie outweighed Dorian by 30 lbs. The only way for you to claim his advantage in muscular bulk becomes moot at the expense of conditioning would be to prove he carried 30 lbs of fat and water.
I'm sure you believe the size difference would crush the conditioning difference however you're neglecting the balance & proportion and posing as well , remember all arounds are physique rounds
where did you come up with 18 lbs? Dorian weighed 257 lbs in 93 and Ronnie weighed 287 lbs in 03. That's a difference of 30 lbs. Ronnie also has the advantage in separations, striations, symmetry, shape, and fullness.
Dorian at 269 pounds thats where and and see above 2003 would looks soft next to Yates as well as a bunch of parts thrown together
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lmfao missing upper pecs and Dorian's biceps weren't missing they were good not great Ronnie calves suck they're not even good not in shape , length , development , proportion
You're high if you think there is anything wrong with his upper pecs
seriously, where are his upper pecs? ???
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/95%20Mr%20Olympia/DorianYates53.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/95%20Mr%20Olympia/1995MrOlympia-PrejudgingRound15.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/95%20Mr%20Olympia/DorianYates34.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/95%20Mr%20Olympia/1995MrOlympia-PrejudgingRound14.jpg)
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seriously, where are his upper pecs? ???
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/95%20Mr%20Olympia/DorianYates53.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/95%20Mr%20Olympia/1995MrOlympia-PrejudgingRound15.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/95%20Mr%20Olympia/DorianYates34.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/95%20Mr%20Olympia/1995MrOlympia-PrejudgingRound14.jpg)
Its just the way the pecs insert again look at his upper pecs thick clearly defined
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I know you could care less because you;re wrong
not really. A deviation of 3 lbs from 260 lbs is negligible. Only a fool would argue that it actually means something. I could understand if his weight fluctuated by 10 lbs in a year. Then you would have an argument. ;)
I'm sure you believe the size difference would crush the conditioning difference however you're neglecting the balance & proportion and posing as well , remember all arounds are physique rounds
exactly, that's why I mentioned other criteria in my last post.
Dorian at 269 pounds thats where and and see above 2003 would looks soft next to Yates as well as a bunch of parts thrown together
Dorian at 269 lbs had worse conditioning and even less separations and striations than on stage. Even though he would gain 10 lbs in size, it would come at the expense of definition. So basically it would come down to whether Dorian's advantage in density and proportion be enough to overcome Ronnie's huge lead in bulk, definition, symmetry, shape, and fullness?
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Its just the way the pecs insert again look at his upper pecs thick clearly defined
where? All I see are pics that confirm what I said.
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not really. A deviation of 3 lbs from 260 lbs is negligible. Only a fool would argue that it actually means something. I could understand if his weight fluctuated by 10 lbs in a year. Then you would have an argument. ;)
exactly, that's why I mentioned other criteria in my last post.
Dorian at 269 lbs had worse conditioning and even less separations and striations than on stage. Even though he would gain 10 lbs in size, it would come at the expense of definition.
not really. A deviation of 3 lbs from 260 lbs is negligible. Only a fool would argue that it actually means something. I could understand if his weight fluctuated by 10 lbs in a year. Then you would have an argument. ;)
it may be negligable but it doesn't matter you're still wrong and it did fluctuate from 242 pounds in 1992 to 257 pounds in 1993 so again you're wrong
Dorian at 269 lbs had worse conditioning and even less separations and striations than on stage. Even though he would gain 10 lbs in size, it would come at the expense of definition.
LMFAO and how the fuck would you know? the pics we do have are NOT in a contest setting , no contest lighting NO tan and NO posing oil , and his conditioning according to eyewitnesses was top 3 at that years Olympia in hardness and his thickness was unbeatable so much for your expense of definition
Kevin Horoton GetBig Dec 30th
The photo is technically terrible, fortunately the physique is awesome.
I'd agree with Kris about Dorian showing up on stage how he looked a few weeks out. There are some shots of him at around 280 - 285 shredded. That conditioning has not been surpassed.
shredded ;)
Kevin Horton
When I photgraphed Dorian , I told him " You should step onstage at 270 pounds. Do that , and there won't be a man on earth who can beat you." At 270 pounds Dorian was in very , very good condition , enough to put him in the top three onstage in hardness , and his untouachble size and thickness would have assured him the victory.
VERY , VERY good condition , enough to put him in top 3 at the Olympia
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where? All I see are pics that confirm what I said.
and we all know you see what you want to see
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it may be negligable but it doesn't matter you're still wrong and it did fluctuate from 242 pounds in 1992 to 257 pounds in 1993 so again you're wrong
can you read, stupid boy? I just said not more than 2 post ago that I was talking about 93-96. So why are you bringing 92 into this? ::)
LMFAO and how the fuck would you know? the pics we do have are NOT in a contest setting , no contest lighting NO tan and NO posing oil , and his conditioning according to eyewitnesses was top 3 at that years Olympia in hardness and his thickness was unbeatable so much for your expense of definition
use your brain. Why would Dorian drop from 269 lbs to 257 lbs unless he needed to lose more fat and water? ;)
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can you read, stupid boy? I just said not more than 2 post ago that I was talking about 93-96. So why are you bringing 92 into this? ::)
use your brain. Why would Dorian drop from 269 lbs to 257 lbs unless he needed to lose more fat and water? ;)
can you read, stupid boy? I just said not more than 2 post ago that I was talking about 93-96. So why are you bringing 92 into this? ::)
well I don't care what you're talking about I proved my point and you don't like it because you're wrong even by the smallest of margins
use your brain. Why would Dorian drop from 269 lbs to 257 lbs unless he needed to lose more fat and water? ;)
Same reason he did it in 1992 , he didn't want to take any chances ;) he was superheavy in 1992 as well and cut way to much weight , again if Kevin Horton says his conditioning at 280-285 pounds is unmatched thats as good as it gets which echo's McGough's sentiments as Yates being superhard at 269 pounds , in fact his conditioning was better than anyones at that weight , but we all know they're wrong and you're right lol
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use your brain. Why would Dorian drop from 269 lbs to 257 lbs unless he needed to lose more fat and water? ;)
And Neo he was 270+ in 1997 and he was hard as nails & dry just riddled with torn parts and a bloated gut but his conditioning wasn't the problem so he did do it
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well I don't care what you're talking about I proved my point and you don't like it because you're wrong even by the smallest of margins
you didn't prove anything. I was generalizing about Dorian's weight staying the same from 93-96. You started nitpicking over exactness and talking about 92, which was never my point to begin with.
Same reason he did it in 1992 , he didn't want to take any chances he was superheavy in 1992 as well and cut way to much weight , again if Kevin Horton says his conditioning at 280-285 pounds is unmatched thats as good as it gets which echo's McGough's sentiments as Yates being superhard at 269 pounds , in fact his conditioning was better than anyones at that weight , but we all know they're wrong and you're right lol
so you're saying Dorian lost 12 lbs of muscle before the 93 Mr. Olympia? It's one or the other. Either he needed to lose more fat and water or he lost muscle. Which is it? ;)
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of course, hulkster hasnt responded yet. he probably wont.
but, he'll continue to use the altered screen caps to make ronnie "the best of all time".
he'll make up some silly excuse and post a most muscular of ronnie with the fake screen caps from the "dvd" vs. a magazine pic of yates from 94.
LOL you stupid fuck your idiot loverboy ND has been BUSTED touching up pics of your hero!!!!
::)
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Ronnie 1999 is overrated
His abs sucked!
His taper was nowhere near as good as in the previous year!!
His triceps, brachialis and forearms sucked dick compared to his biceps resulting in imbalance!!!!!
his triceps sucked....
uh are we looking at the same pics?
???
His calves were even more of a liability compared to his quads!!!!
His enormous ass ruined his entire proportions from the back!!!!!!!!
The separations on his back were nowhere near as good as in the previous year!!!!!
His chest was puffy and holding water!!!!!!!
His gut showed distension, unlike in the previous year
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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here is ronnie's imbalance according to suckmyasshole LOL
its actually about as balanced as you can get.
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here is ronnie's imbalance according to suckmyasshole LOL
its actually about as balanced as you can get.
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not if you were to show the full pic included of ronnie's calves which throw of his balance.
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here is ronnie's imbalance according to suckmyasshole LOL
its actually about as balanced as you can get.
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Sick triceps in that shot
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Dorian about to go to war with Ronnie
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ND should use his much practiced photoshopping skills and make his arm at least the size of his calf... :-\
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LOL you stupid fuck your idiot loverboy ND has been BUSTED touching up pics of your hero!!!!
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Man you take this shit WAY to seriously lol and now its ' pics ' ? again you're making shit up ;) where are all these ' pics ' ?
and the irony of your rants , YOU a guy who has knowingly posted dozens of photoshopped screencaps complaining about anyone posting a sharpened pic NEVERMIND that I never did it just on the face of it you're a hypocrite
but its all good because you still don't have anything as usual ;)
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ND caught and on the defensive! hahahahahahaha
typical ND fashion.. ::)
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backstage at the 99 MR. O, ronnie was in insane shape, even better than in 98:
10 pounds more muscle and rock hard:
know, we know HypocriticDiety will no doubt post an opinion my McGough claiming otherwise, but that quote is thoroughly disproven by other eyewitness, contest reviewers, ronnie himself, and mountains of visual evidence:
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backstage at the 99 MR. O, ronnie was in insane shape, even better than in 98:
10 pounds more muscle and rock hard:
know, we know HypocriticDiety will no doubt post an opinion my McGough claiming otherwise, but that quote is thoroughly disproven by other eyewitness, contest reviewers, ronnie himself, and mountains of visual evidence:
Hulkster = owned ;)
1998 harder & drier than 1999 hence why 1999 is NOT considered his best overall showing ;) hence Ronnie said himself , and why Peter McGough stated , and why Shawn Perine stated and Joe Weider stated Ronnie's best Olympia showing was you guessed it 1998 ;)
Shawn Perine Ironage Dec 11, 2004
As much as I love Haney and my IA champs, I think Ronnie circa '98 or at the 2001 Arnold is pretty much untouchable. Except by Dorian Yates 6 weeks out from the '93 O as photographed by our own KMH. Both men, on those specific occasions carried so much dry muscle mass in good proportion and with good lines that it's almost unfair to compare them to others.
Shawn Perine stating Ronnie's best Olympia was 1998 because he carried so much ' dry muscle ' there is a reason 1999 isn't listed owned ;)
Flex Magazine August 2003
Jim Schmatltz on Ronnie chances of winning six Olympias in a row
if he repeats his 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic form, he'll experience the joy of six.
his 2001 Arnold Classic form NOT his 1999 Mr Olympia form and why? pssst I'll let you in on a little secret Ronnie wasn't as hard or as dry as these two showings owned ;)
review of mr. olympia 1999, january 2000, page 90:
257 pounds, a good seven pounds heavier than last year and the clear winner, ALTHOUGH NOT AS BONE DRY OR AS ROCK HARD IN 98. In comparison to 98, his thighs are enourmous with a greater sweep and his front delts have improved; plus the pec anomaly (gyno) is no longer present.
ALTHOUGH NOT AS BONE DRY OR AS ROCK HARD IN 98. that sums it up owned ;)
Quote Peter McGough Flex Magazine Jan 2001
RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .
so true the heavier he became the more his conditioning suffered for it , right in line with his assessment from 1998 & 1999 owned ;)
Peter McGough Flex Magazine August 2005
Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage (there was a contender for best-ever that I saw offstage: those crazy photos of sock-footed Dorian Yates taken seven weeks before the 1993 Mr. Olympia) was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 244 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable and would make any criticisms as redundant as a chocolate squat rack.
it wasn't the 1999 Mr Olympia and why? lets see if Hulkster was right in his claim his conditioning was virtually identical and he was 13 pounds heavier 1999 would be considered his best showing and its NOT for a very good reason and why? because his conditioning was OFF owned ;)
Ronnie what was your best Olympia?
Ronnie: I would have to say my first because my conditioning was spot-on.
Which means his conditioning was NOT spot-on in 1999 which is why NO ONE considers 1999 his best Olympia appearance which coincides with ALL the above mentioned professionals who didn't come to their conclusions using PHOTOSHOPPED screencaps and compressed video owned ;)
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HD, how can you post all those shots and then look at 99 and say he was softer? ::)
there is a reason why Ronnie, Musclemag and others have stated he was just as hard if not harder than in 98.
and here it is:
just as hard if not harder than all your 98 shots:
deal with it.
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HD, how can you post all those shots and then look at 99 and say he was softer? ::)
there is a reason why Ronnie, Musclemag and others have stated he was just as hard if not harder than in 98.
and here it is:
just as hard if not harder than all your 98 shots:
deal with it.
fear this dummy you don't have the balls to respond to my post for a reason and that reason is you're fucking owned ;)
1999 pales in comparison from 1998 and 2001 ;)
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HD, I ask again:
why are you clinging to a single quote that has not only been contradicted by other quotes from eyewitnesses including Ronnie himself (at his victory seminar) but contradicted by endless pics, videos etc?
explain your reasoning LOL
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this oughta be good.. ::)
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HD, I ask again:
why are you clinging to a single quote that has not only been contradicted by other quotes from eyewitnesses including Ronnie himself (at his victory seminar) but contradicted by endless pics, videos etc?
explain your reasoning LOL
::)
this oughta be good.. ::)
again lets see you TRY and respond to my post you can't and wont out of fear because as usual you're owned
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1999 pales in comparison from 1998 and 2001
now you are just being totally stupid. ::)
98 vs 99
where is the difference that you claim is so fucking obvious? ::)
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ronnie should take off the dress in the 1st pic
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now you are just being totally stupid. ::)
98 vs 99
where is the difference that you claim is so fucking obvious? ::)
LMFAO yes in ONE pic get out of here dummy when you see people in real life and not in pictures you can tell but you wouldn't know this because you never seen either contest and have the balls to tell the people who were there they are wrong using INACCURATE means to boot , see desperate as usual
1999 is NOT Ronnie's best showing for a reason how does it feel constantly being wrong?
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how does it feel to rely on one quote that is:
-contradicted by other contest reviewers who were also there
-disproven by visuals
-disagreed with by Ronnie Fucking Coleman himself?
::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
think about how stupid that is for one minute.
ps you are being owned on several threads at once I see!
typical day on getbig LOL
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Shawn Perine Ironage Dec 11, 2004
As much as I love Haney and my IA champs, I think Ronnie circa '98 or at the 2001 Arnold is pretty much untouchable. Except by Dorian Yates 6 weeks out from the '93 O as photographed by our own KMH. Both men, on those specific occasions carried so much dry muscle mass in good proportion and with good lines that it's almost unfair to compare them to others.
Shawn Perine stating Ronnie's best Olympia was 1998 because he carried so much ' dry muscle ' there is a reason 1999 isn't listed owned Wink
Flex Magazine August 2003
Jim Schmatltz on Ronnie chances of winning six Olympias in a row
if he repeats his 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic form, he'll experience the joy of six.
his 2001 Arnold Classic form NOT his 1999 Mr Olympia form and why? pssst I'll let you in on a little secret Ronnie wasn't as hard or as dry as these two showings owned Wink
review of mr. olympia 1999, january 2000, page 90:
257 pounds, a good seven pounds heavier than last year and the clear winner, ALTHOUGH NOT AS BONE DRY OR AS ROCK HARD IN 98. In comparison to 98, his thighs are enourmous with a greater sweep and his front delts have improved; plus the pec anomaly (gyno) is no longer present.
ALTHOUGH NOT AS BONE DRY OR AS ROCK HARD IN 98. that sums it up owned Wink
Quote Peter McGough Flex Magazine Jan 2001
RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .
so true the heavier he became the more his conditioning suffered for it , right in line with his assessment from 1998 & 1999 owned Wink
Peter McGough Flex Magazine August 2005
Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage (there was a contender for best-ever that I saw offstage: those crazy photos of sock-footed Dorian Yates taken seven weeks before the 1993 Mr. Olympia) was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 244 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable and would make any criticisms as redundant as a chocolate squat rack.
it wasn't the 1999 Mr Olympia and why? lets see if Hulkster was right in his claim his conditioning was virtually identical and he was 13 pounds heavier 1999 would be considered his best showing and its NOT for a very good reason and why? because his conditioning was OFF owned Wink
Ronnie what was your best Olympia?
Ronnie: I would have to say my first because my conditioning was spot-on.
Hulkster you can NOT counter this
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how does it feel to rely on one quote that is:
-contradicted by other contest reviewers who were also there
-disproven by visuals
-disagreed with by Ronnie Fucking Coleman himself?
::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
think about how stupid that is for one minute.
ps you are being owned on several threads at once I see!
typical day on getbig LOL
Here we go again YOU making shit up please site these " REVIEWERS " who are THEY?
YOU claimed Johnny Fitness I don't believe anything you say you've lied before about quotes and I busted you and Ronnie when asked which was his best Olympia on PBW said? you gussed it ;)
and you see what you want in the ' visuals ' like Ronnie has better detailed calves than Dorian LMFAO so much for your abilties looking at the visuals
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haha i just come back from the casinos after having a fun day and i see nd is still getting owned over and over
good job hulkster
ps-narcissticdiety: my friend don saw yates the keg onstage at olympia one year and told me all he hear were people getting disgusted that yates was given the olympia looking like he did
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Here we go again YOU making shit up please site these " REVIEWERS " who are THEY?
YOU claimed Johnny Fitness I don't believe anything you say you've lied before about quotes and I busted you and Ronnie when asked which was his best Olympia on PBW said? you gussed it ;)
and you see what you want in the ' visuals ' like Ronnie has better detailed calves than Dorian LMFAO so much for your abilties looking at the visuals
I didn't claim Johnny Fitness.
the musclemag review is posted online in an article database.
Neo found it first. its real much to your dismay.
you have been crying and whining ever since, as usual... ::)
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Hey Hulkster Ronnie was harder & drier in 1998 compared to 1999
Hulkster: no he wasn't
Yes he was Peter McGough references in his contest review
Hulkster : He's wrong
How do you know?
Hulkster : look at the pics
Pictures are misleading and inaccurate
Hulkster: BULLSHIT they're just as good as being there
Two Professional contest photographers and Bob Chic all say thats not true
Hulkster : They're all wrong
where you ever at these above mentioned contests?
Hulkster : NO ...but I touched Nimrod King's calf once at a guestposing show
Shawn Perine says 1998 & 2001 were Ronnie's best showing
Hulkster : he's wrong too
but he was there
Hulkster : I don't care he's wrong I seen the pics
Joe Weider says 1998 was Ronnie's best showing
Hulkster : He's wrong too , he's old what does he know?
Ronnie Coleman himself at the closing of his Olympia career reflected on his best Olympia showing and he could have picked any year including 1999 but he didn't he in fact picked 1998 and specifically because his conditioning was spot on
Hulkster : He's lying and he's wrong ever hear the man speak? not exactly the smartest guy in the world
LMFAO typical Hulkster everyone is wrong you are right , keep iceskating uphill you dummy I'll keep watching you fall flat on yourself
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I didn't claim Johnny Fitness.
the musclemag review is posted online in an article database.
Neo found it first. its real much to your dismay.
you have been crying and whining ever since, as usual... ::)
My ass you're the one in denial because NO ONE you can't find ONE single credible person who says 1999 is his best showing , you simply can't do it and never could
you're in denial as usual
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shut up narcisstic diety
go back to your truce threadnothing worse than someone who is owned who keeps whining about it
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Hey Hulkster Ronnie was harder & drier in 1998 compared to 1999
Hulkster: no he wasn't
Yes he was Peter McGough references in his contest review
Hulkster : He's wrong
How do you know?
Hulkster : look at the pics
Pictures are misleading and inaccurate
Hulkster: BULLSHIT they're just as good as being there
Two Professional contest photographers and Bob Chic all say thats not true
Hulkster : They're all wrong
where you ever at these above mentioned contests?
Hulkster : NO ...but I touched Nimrod King's calf once at a guestposing show
Shawn Perine says 1998 & 2001 were Ronnie's best showing
Hulkster : he's wrong too
but he was there
Hulkster : I don't care he's wrong I seen the pics
Joe Weider says 1998 was Ronnie's best showing
Hulkster : He's wrong too , he's old what does he know?
Ronnie Coleman himself at the closing of his Olympia career reflected on his best Olympia showing and he could have picked any year including 1999 but he didn't he in fact picked 1998 and specifically because his conditioning was spot on
Hulkster : He's lying and he's wrong ever hear the man speak? not exactly the smartest guy in the world
LMFAO typical Hulkster everyone is wrong you are right , keep iceskating uphill you dummy I'll keep watching you fall flat on yourself
ARE YOU A FUCKING IDIOT?
its not just me who is saying this you stupid delusional moron!
Ronnie Coleman has stated this, Musclemag's own Jonny Fitness who was there and reviewed the contest has stated this!
jesus christ man why the fuck you are so god damn stupid?
>:(
Ronnie and Johnny know a lot better than you, me and likely Peter McGough too..
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So, ND is claiming that he knows more than a professional contest reviewer (well respected in the 90's I might ad) Johnny Fitness AND more than Ronnie Coleman himself..
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ARE YOU A FUCKING IDIOT?
its not just me who is saying this you stupid delusional moron!
Ronnie Coleman has stated this, Musclemag's own Jonny Fitness who was there and reviewed the contest has stated this!
jesus christ man why the fuck you are so god damn stupid?
>:(
Ronnie and Johnny know a lot better than you, me and likely Peter McGough too..
LMFAO again dummy PBW what did Ronnie say? yeah I thought so ;) and LMMFAO Johnny Fitness where is he again?
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So, ND is claiming that he knows more than a professional contest reviewer (well respected in the 90's I might ad) Johnny Fitness AND more than Ronnie Coleman himself..
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good post
this nd knows hes wrong
its pathetic how desparate he sounds
if yates is so great how come everyone bad mouths him
i never hear any ronnie jokes
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So, ND is claiming that he knows more than a professional contest reviewer (well respected in the 90's I might ad) Johnny Fitness AND more than Ronnie Coleman himself..
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And Hulkster is claiming to know more than professional contest photographers , team flex , Dorian Yates , Ronnie Coleman , Peter McGough , Shawn Perine , Lee Priest , Ernie Taylor , Shawn Ray , Bev Francis , IFBB judges , I mean are you out of your mind posting this nonsense? LMMFAO see hypocrite and then see dummy
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Shawn Perine Ironage Dec 11, 2004
As much as I love Haney and my IA champs, I think Ronnie circa '98 or at the 2001 Arnold is pretty much untouchable. Except by Dorian Yates 6 weeks out from the '93 O as photographed by our own KMH. Both men, on those specific occasions carried so much dry muscle mass in good proportion and with good lines that it's almost unfair to compare them to others.
Shawn Perine stating Ronnie's best Olympia was 1998 because he carried so much ' dry muscle ' there is a reason 1999 isn't listed owned Wink
Flex Magazine August 2003
Jim Schmatltz on Ronnie chances of winning six Olympias in a row
if he repeats his 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic form, he'll experience the joy of six.
his 2001 Arnold Classic form NOT his 1999 Mr Olympia form and why? pssst I'll let you in on a little secret Ronnie wasn't as hard or as dry as these two showings owned Wink
review of mr. olympia 1999, january 2000, page 90:
257 pounds, a good seven pounds heavier than last year and the clear winner, ALTHOUGH NOT AS BONE DRY OR AS ROCK HARD IN 98. In comparison to 98, his thighs are enourmous with a greater sweep and his front delts have improved; plus the pec anomaly (gyno) is no longer present.
ALTHOUGH NOT AS BONE DRY OR AS ROCK HARD IN 98. that sums it up owned Wink
Quote Peter McGough Flex Magazine Jan 2001
RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .
so true the heavier he became the more his conditioning suffered for it , right in line with his assessment from 1998 & 1999 owned Wink
Peter McGough Flex Magazine August 2005
Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage (there was a contender for best-ever that I saw offstage: those crazy photos of sock-footed Dorian Yates taken seven weeks before the 1993 Mr. Olympia) was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 244 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable and would make any criticisms as redundant as a chocolate squat rack.
it wasn't the 1999 Mr Olympia and why? lets see if Hulkster was right in his claim his conditioning was virtually identical and he was 13 pounds heavier 1999 would be considered his best showing and its NOT for a very good reason and why? because his conditioning was OFF owned Wink
Ronnie what was your best Olympia?
Ronnie: I would have to say my first because my conditioning was spot-on.
All wrong Hulkster right lol
owned
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so, you are picking and choosing which Ronnie quote to believe
ignoring the visuals
and
ignoring a professional contest guru?
real smart.. ::)
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good post
this nd knows hes wrong
its pathetic how desparate he sounds
if yates is so great how come everyone bad mouths him
i never hear any ronnie jokes
no shit
great post
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so, you are picking and choosing which Ronnie quote to believe
I've been saying this for a while. ND ignores when Peter McGough said Ronnie at his best is unbeatable and has the best back ever yet quotes Peter like the gospel when he said Ronnie had better conditioning in 98 than 99. ::)
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I've been saying this for a while. ND ignores when Peter McGough said Ronnie at his best is unbeatable and has the best back ever yet quotes Peter like the gospel when he said Ronnie had better conditioning in 98 than 99. ::)
explain yourself, HypocriticDeity.
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explain yourself, HypocriticDeity.
Why should he explain himself? It's pretty obvious all he has are a few old quotes and a handful of offseason photos which are apparently the only photos you can trust because the hundreds of photos that don't support him lie (and that would be contest photos) so even today we can only accept second hand quotes "Some guy who was there said Dorian was the greatest he'd ever seen when he watched him pump up in a track suit backstage in 1996, so that proves that Dorian is the best wahh!"
Quotes are stupid because they're other peoples opinions or gut reactions and who knows how they feel now looking back with 20/20 hindsight. In the 1960's Joe Weider said Arnold was the living end of bodybuilding and that he had taken physique development as far as it was going to ever go. Guess what he was wrong. So it's pointless to say "well I'm right because so and so said this." Especially when there are hundreds and hundreds of high quality photos available so we can actually..... oh I don't know form our own opinions!
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haha i just come back from the casinos after having a fun day and i see nd is still getting owned over and over
good job hulkster
ps-narcissticdiety: my friend don saw yates the keg onstage at olympia one year and told me all he hear were people getting disgusted that yates was given the olympia looking like he did
Were you and Don jerking off each other in the crowd? You gaytrolls love the attention don't you.? :D
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so, you are picking and choosing which Ronnie quote to believe
ignoring the visuals
and
ignoring a professional contest guru?
real smart.. ::)
See hypocrite because you you do the exact same thing ;)
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I've been saying this for a while. ND ignores when Peter McGough said Ronnie at his best is unbeatable and has the best back ever yet quotes Peter like the gospel when he said Ronnie had better conditioning in 98 than 99. ::)
Its not just McGough who claims 98 he was better condition big difference and you'll cling to any McGough quote that YOU like like the ones you mentioned but dismiss the ones that you don't agree with much as 2003 NOT being his prime showing and Ronnie was never drier & harder than Dorian , you're a hypocrite as well stop projecting
and McGough revised that at his best statement as well and who had a better physique at their best is very subjective who was drier & harder is NOT especially if its one athlete from one year to the next
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Why should he explain himself? It's pretty obvious all he has are a few old quotes and a handful of offseason photos which are apparently the only photos you can trust because the hundreds of photos that don't support him lie (and that would be contest photos) so even today we can only accept second hand quotes "Some guy who was there said Dorian was the greatest he'd ever seen when he watched him pump up in a track suit backstage in 1996, so that proves that Dorian is the best wahh!"
Quotes are stupid because they're other peoples opinions or gut reactions and who knows how they feel now looking back with 20/20 hindsight. In the 1960's Joe Weider said Arnold was the living end of bodybuilding and that he had taken physique development as far as it was going to ever go. Guess what he was wrong. So it's pointless to say "well I'm right because so and so said this." Especially when there are hundreds and hundreds of high quality photos available so we can actually..... oh I don't know form our own opinions!
excellent post!