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http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/No-Evidence-Of-Assassination-Plot-Barack-Obama-Assassination-Plot/Article/200808415086777?lpos=World%2BNews_0&lid=ARTICLE_15086777_No%2BEvidence%2BOf%2BAssassination%2BPlot%2BBarack%2BObama%2B%2527Assassination%2BPlot%2527%2B
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what a fucking joke, if these guys were brown and plotting against the president, they would be in gitmo. ::)
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they had rifles, vests, and lots of meth. LOTS of meth.
Can't theyu charge them with that? Or is this a case of "remember when oswald walked out of jail numerous times, as patsies always do before they get pwnt?"
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QUOTE: WE WERE “going to shoot Obama from a high vantage point using a… rifle… sighted at 750 yards”
One suspect was asked if he came to Denver to kill Obama and he responded in the affirmative.
Busted with rifles and walkie talkies and narcotics.
One suspect jumps from 6 stories to avoid capture, no he’s not hiding anything… lol…
NO CHARGES…
Please, tell me what would happen to the same people trying to wack McCain ::)
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they had rifles, vests, and lots of meth. LOTS of meth.
Can't theyu charge them with that? Or is this a case of "remember when oswald walked out of jail numerous times, as patsies always do before they get pwnt?"
yea, wtf???
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THIS IS YOUR UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT SAYING IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A SHOT AT OBAMA, GO FOR IT.
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helloooooooo anyone????????????????? Come on, this is fucked up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I don't know the details of the case to explain this and it is very concerning, what has been written seems overwhelming in favor of charges but I am certain that its not just because Barack is black...more unjustified scapegoat race whining BS. The gov does not want Barack assassinated....ridiculo us.
From the few things I have seen written, I don't understand how these pathetic misfits aren't charged either but the local gov, prosecutor & attorney general would know much more than any of us.
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helloooooooo anyone????????????????? Come on, this is fucked up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If this was at the RNC, you would be up in arms that they violated their civil rights by arresting them.
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QUOTE: WE WERE “going to shoot Obama from a high vantage point using a… rifle… sighted at 750 yards”
One suspect was asked if he came to Denver to kill Obama and he responded in the affirmative.
Busted with rifles and walkie talkies and narcotics.
One suspect jumps from 6 stories to avoid capture, no he’s not hiding anything… lol…
NO CHARGES…
Please, tell me what would happen to the same people trying to wack McCain ::)
can you give a link for those statements hugo?
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can you give a link for those statements hugo?
nvm i found a link and it does say they are being held on gun and drug charges...the authorities might just be holding off charges until they have all the facts, perhaps they are worried about more ppl out there and are trying to cut a deal with these ppl for info.
You ppl are worse than the PETA organization for getting worked up in a frenzy.
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If this was at the RNC, you would be up in arms that they violated their civil rights by arresting them.
No I wouldn't ::)
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nvm i found a link and it does say they are being held on gun and drug charges...the authorities might just be holding off charges until they have all the facts, perhaps they are worried about more ppl out there and are trying to cut a deal with these ppl for info.
You ppl are worse than the PETA organization for getting worked up in a frenzy.
"So your friends were saying threatening things about Obama?" Maass asked.
"Yeah," Nathan Johnson replied.
"It sounded like they didn't want him to be president?"
"Well, no," Johnson said.
Maass reported earlier Monday that one of the suspects told authorities they were "going to shoot Obama from a high vantage point using a ... rifle ... sighted at 750 yards."
http://cbs4denver.com/investigates/assisination.plot.obama.2.802827.html
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when people like this face no charges, it's a green light to go for it. There must be something illegal in plotting to kill a candidate. Conspiracy charges at the least, helloooo...
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when people like this face no charges, it's a green light to go for it. There must be something illegal in plotting to kill a candidate. Conspiracy charges at the least, helloooo...
LOL again its not over yet gezzzz calm the fuk down
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/aug/26/gun-charges-expected-in-obama-plot/
a little less skewed view of the events
the man that made those statements says he wasnt part of a plot, and when asked if he thought they might trying to kill obama he said i dont wanna say yes but he didnt want to say no either.
Also within the past 2 weeks many government buildings had been shot at including the US customs building and a US military building.
why dont we get all the facts first before we jump to conclusions...
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"why dont we get all the facts first before we jump to conclusions..."
I agree. On the surface, it sounds very bad...but we get only what the media is reporting, which is meant to be as sensational as possible.
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also a rifle scoped in at 750yds LOL LMFAO hahahhea ::) gezz louise ppl that almost half a fuking mile.
Anybody that has done even a limited amount of shooting knows how tough it is to be accurate at 100-200yds never the less 750yds LOL HAHAHAH geezzzz ppl.
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also a rifle scoped in at 750yds LOL LMFAO hahahhea ::) gezz louise ppl that almost half a fuking mile.
Anybody that has done even a limited amount of shooting knows how tough it is to be accurate at 100-200yds never the less 750yds LOL HAHAHAH geezzzz ppl.
very true, there's no way they're accurate at that distance. but even if they planned on shooting into the place, that's a target rich environment and people would be hit.
They can charge the guy with the meth at the very least and keep him without bond for a week.
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very true, there's no way they're accurate at that distance. but even if they planned on shooting into the place, that's a target rich environment and people would be hit.
They can charge the guy with the meth at the very least and keep him without bond for a week.
they already have as well as for the stolen rifle
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also a rifle scoped in at 750yds LOL LMFAO hahahhea ::) gezz louise ppl that almost half a fuking mile.
Anybody that has done even a limited amount of shooting knows how tough it is to be accurate at 100-200yds never the less 750yds LOL HAHAHAH geezzzz ppl.
They teach 18 year olds to shoot targets at at least 400 yards. I'd say it's possible with good conditions and a strong rifle.
Could this be a stunt to win sympathy for Obama?
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Could this be a stunt to win sympathy for Obama?
Thinking like that would make you a CTer. See how easy it is to make the leap of faith?
Suppose they're released and disappear, and their identities turn out sketchy, and we never ealy ffind out who they are/were. Or, suppose all 4 are killed in an "accident" the minute after their bail is anonymously posted lol... It sure did benefit him a bit - rallied his base.
See how CTs come together? patsies are protected then destroyed.
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Thinking like that would make you a CTer. See how easy it is to make the leap of faith?
Suppose they're released and disappear, and their identities turn out sketchy, and we never ealy ffind out who they are/were. Or, suppose all 4 are killed in an "accident" the minute after their bail is anonymously posted lol... It sure did benefit him a bit - rallied his base.
See how CTs come together? patsies are protected then destroyed.
Lol, I forgot to put my smiley face but it COULD happen.
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They teach 18 year olds to shoot targets at at least 400 yards. I'd say it's possible with good conditions and a strong rifle.
Could this be a stunt to win sympathy for Obama?
sure with a .50 cal wtf not, a run of the mill rifle with more than likely a run of the mill scope no way. You would probably need a 2000 dollar scope for that kind of range.
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sure with a .50 cal wtf not, a run of the mill rifle with more than likely a run of the mill scope no way. You would probably need a 2000 dollar scope for that kind of range.
Not necessarily a 50 cal or a great scope. You could engage a theoretical target at that range with an M14 or Remington. More than anything you would just need to know how to zero the rifle and hope for little or no wind. If you can engage targets at 500+ yards with an M4 then you would be fine with the above mentioned rifles.
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plus it would have been two shooters, each with a spotter with a walkie.
I cna't believe these 2 pricks aren't at gitmo getting waterboarded right now.
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I cna't believe these 2 pricks aren't at gitmo getting waterboarded right now.
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So you think they should be rewarded with cheeseburgers and a nice cool air conditioner?
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So you think they should be rewarded with cheeseburgers and a nice cool air conditioner?
No, I believe anyone who comes anything near to threatening any politician should get beaten for about 3 days, then interrogated with LSD as to the motives and handlers, if applicable.
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No, I believe anyone who comes anything near to threatening any politician should get beaten for about 3 days, then interrogated with LSD as to the motives and handlers, if applicable.
so what exactly would you arrest them on?
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so what exactly would you arrest them on?
1) any gun charges
2) charge 1 with the meth and 3 with conspiracy
3) charge then all with possessing a vest in commission of conspiracy on the meth
4) If none of that works, just use the 'national security' card, label them as terrorists, and lock them up for a few months. Habeas corpus doesn't apply to terrorists.
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1) any gun charges
2) charge 1 with the meth and 3 with conspiracy
3) charge then all with possessing a vest in commission of conspiracy on the meth
4) If none of that works, just use the 'national security' card, label them as terrorists, and lock them up for a few months. Habeas corpus doesn't apply to terrorists.
ok great. but that has nothing to do with a plot to kill obama.
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ok great. but that has nothing to do with a plot to kill obama.
Giving them heroin and beating them into some answers will reveal if they intended to do something.
Don't tell me you're soft on terror? If they're not terrorists, I don't know what is...
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big difference between a terrorist and a murderer.
had they been islamic extremist with the plan on their computer and they had been videotaped doing surveillance and dry runs, you would march for their freedom.
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big difference between a terrorist and a murderer.
had they been islamic extremist with the plan on their computer and they had been videotaped doing surveillance and dry runs, you would march for their freedom.
WTF? KH, just because I don't like Bush's theft and pilferage and lies, doesn't mean I'm a sympathizer.
march for their freedom? You gotta be shitting me. I mighe be crying because I fvcked up my truck running them over repeatedly.
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WTF? KH, just because I don't like Bush's theft and pilferage and lies, doesn't mean I'm a sympathizer.
march for their freedom? You gotta be shitting me. I mighe be crying because I fvcked up my truck running them over repeatedly.
then maybee im wrong. im thinking your one of those waterboarding, terrorist watch list pussies
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Not necessarily a 50 cal or a great scope. You could engage a theoretical target at that range with an M14 or Remington. More than anything you would just need to know how to zero the rifle and hope for little or no wind. If you can engage targets at 500+ yards with an M4 then you would be fine with the above mentioned rifles.
i agree its possible but highly highly unlikely
No wind and no margin of error even slightly off or even the slightest flinch would result in a miss.
Again highly unlikely
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1) any gun charges
2) charge 1 with the meth and 3 with conspiracy
3) charge then all with possessing a vest in commission of conspiracy on the meth
4) If none of that works, just use the 'national security' card, label them as terrorists, and lock them up for a few months. Habeas corpus doesn't apply to terrorists.
AGAIN THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN CHARGED FOR DRUGS AND POSSESION OF STOLEN ITEMS I.E. THE GUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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then maybee im wrong. im thinking your one of those waterboarding, terrorist watch list pussies
I've said it before. I'd cap ten jihadists, eat a ham sandwich then cap ten more.
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AGAIN THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN CHARGED FOR DRUGS AND POSSESION OF STOLEN ITEMS I.E. THE GUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Exactly, but it appears Rob and Hugo want to wear an American flag and act as judge, jury, and executioner because some boys were caught with miscellaneous items some legal and some illegal at the wrong place and at the wrong time.
Oh crap, a 90 year old grand mother just jay walked 2 blocks down from the DNC, holy crap. Shoot her shoot her. AHHHH
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Exactly, but it appears Rob and Hugo want to wear an American flag and act as judge, jury, and executioner because some boys were caught with miscellaneous items some legal and some illegal at the wrong place and at the wrong time.
Oh crap, a 90 year old grand mother just jay walked 2 blocks down from the DNC, holy crap. Shoot her shoot her. AHHHH
Soft on terror?
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Soft on terror?
I think you must be, you opted to send these guys to Club Gitmo for cheesburgers, exercise, and cold air conditoner
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If it was a true attack, lock em up.
I still think someone could pull it off but they would have to have a lot of planning and training. If you grew up a hunter/shooter like most rednecks, then you could conceivably pull it off with anyone being a target. Could you imagine if your ex knew you could shoot that well? Lol
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any attack on a national leader is an act of terror. If you attack a senator, you're a terrorist, period.
Can we all agree on that much?
Therefore- if you can accept that - then they were planning a terror act.
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any attack on a national leader is an act of terror. If you attack a senator, you're a terrorist, period.
Can we all agree on that much?
Therefore- if you can accept that - then they were planning a terror act.
I have to agree with that. (of course we're talking about a physical attack or conspiring to physically attack)
Repudiation or condemnation of a politician is something else entirely.
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If it was a true attack, lock em up.
I still think someone could pull it off but they would have to have a lot of planning and training. If you grew up a hunter/shooter like most rednecks, then you could conceivably pull it off with anyone being a target. Could you imagine if your ex knew you could shoot that well? Lol
Ive grown up around guns I hunt and my dad shot pistols competitively and had me shooting from a young age i used to be able to pick off a .22LR shell at 100yds and you can only see the glint at that distance and theres no way i could make that shot. That would be a shot of a lifetime i think youd have to be much more than an avid hunter or average redneck to pull that off
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Ive grown up around guns I hunt and my dad shot pistols competitively and had me shooting from a young age i used to be able to pick off a .22LR shell at 100yds and you can only see the glint at that distance and theres no way i could make that shot. That would be a shot of a lifetime i think youd have to be much more than an avid hunter or average redneck to pull that off
I'm just saying if you can train an 18 year old to shoot at 400 yards, it shows what can be done with a rifle, and that is a 5.56; an M14 is chambered for a 7.62 and that is not bolt action. You could shoot a 3-5 round spread rather fast if you trained.
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I'm just saying if you can train an 18 year old to shoot at 400 yards, it shows what can be done with a rifle, and that is a 5.56; an M14 is chambered for a 7.62 and that is not bolt action. You could shoot a 3-5 round spread rather fast if you trained.
true and im saying that 400yds is a little more than half of what they intended(if they even did) to shoot...I see what your saying and ya its possible again plausable not really that would blow oswalds accuracy in the kennedy assasination out of the water.
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also a rifle scoped in at 750yds LOL LMFAO hahahhea ::) gezz louise ppl that almost half a fuking mile.
Anybody that has done even a limited amount of shooting knows how tough it is to be accurate at 100-200yds never the less 750yds LOL HAHAHAH geezzzz ppl.
You think accurate at 200 yards is hard ::) LOL... at any rate, it's not the point.
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sure with a .50 cal wtf not, a run of the mill rifle with more than likely a run of the mill scope no way. You would probably need a 2000 dollar scope for that kind of range.
AHAHAHHAHHAHHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHAHA.... OK TONY... ::) where are you from, Beverly Hills?
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so what exactly would you arrest them on?
conspiracy? Is it not illegal to conspire to murder, they have a confession.
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ok great. but that has nothing to do with a plot to kill obama.
conspiracy to kill obama doesn't have anything to do with obama? wow...
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conspiracy to kill obama doesn't have anything to do with obama? wow...
Yea, that was my thoughts too Hugo.
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conspiracy to kill obama doesn't have anything to do with obama? wow...
...and he's a cop. I didn't know they let people with brain damage be police officers.
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You think accurate at 200 yards is hard ::) LOL... at any rate, it's not the point.
LOL let me guess your a big game hunter who shoots game at 1000yds right...At 200yds a slight flinch or misdirection in pulling the trigger will result in a missed shot.
AHAHAHHAHHAHHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHAHA.... OK TONY... ::) where are you from, Beverly Hills?
LOL again it was to make a point brainchild...the average run of the mill deer rifle with the average run of the mill scope aint gonna get the job done 99.99% of the time numnuts
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...and he's a cop. I didn't know they let people with brain damage be police officers.
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well if he's a cop, then he's a smart one. Since he knows that the man was pulled over for wreckless driving, which led to a drug possesion. Everything thing else is circumstantial.
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240 was pulled over on his way to a park with meth and walkie talkies, does that mean he was going to play hide and go seek with gay men, and afterwards meet in the park restroom to do stuff? No, but we know he has a history of it, but we can't charge him with anything....it's heresay.
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well if he's a cop, then he's a smart one. Since he knows that the man was pulled over for wreckless driving, which led to a drug possesion. Everything thing else is circumstantial.
Example-
240 was pulled over on his way to a park with meth and walkie talkies, does that mean he was going to play hide and go seek with gay men, and afterwards meet in the park restroom to do stuff? No, but we know he has a history of it, but we can't charge him with anything....it's heresay.
Thats not was i was talking about but it was my bad, I used the wrong quote. A long day at work will do that ya.
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Thats not was i was talking about but it was my bad, I used the wrong quote. A long day at work will do that ya.
I figured that, but I had to make a rehash of what 240 said earlier for shits and giggles.
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LOL let me guess your a big game hunter who shoots game at 1000yds right...At 200yds a slight flinch or misdirection in pulling the trigger will result in a missed shot.
LOL again it was to make a point brainchild...the average run of the mill deer rifle with the average run of the mill scope aint gonna get the job done 99.99% of the time numnuts
nice try, 200 yards is an easy shot with rifle and scope. I like your spin attempt but you said otherwise.
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conspiracy to kill obama doesn't have anything to do with obama? wow...
he could be arrested on the gun and drug charges. you cant arrest someone because of a rumor that they might have thought about killing someone. sorry but thats not how our justice system works.
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he could be arrested on the gun and drug charges. you cant arrest someone because of a rumor that they might have thought about killing someone. sorry but thats not how our justice system works.
how is a confession from one of them that they came to Denver to kill Obama a rumor? LOL? If that's a rumor, what is a confession?
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nice try, 200 yards is an easy shot with rifle and scope. I like your spin attempt but you said otherwise.
ya ya ya ::) i never said it was impossible only a tough shot especially when your heart is pounding and your hands are shaking. You NUMBNUT FUK again i dont know how you are a mod all you do is chime in on others post and never come up with ideas of your own.
AGAIN AT 200 YARDS a slight misdirection in the trigger pull or slight flinch will result in a missed shot, NOW multiply that by 3.75 and you will get 750 yards, Even SLIGHTLY off target at 200 yds would be exponentially of target at 750 yds.
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"how is a confession from one of them that they came to Denver to kill Obama a rumor? LOL? If that's a rumor, what is a confession"
Thats my question too...but its our justice system and in the hands of the prosecutors & officials, not some racial prejudice scheme at work.