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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: boonstack on August 27, 2008, 10:22:41 AM
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How could he not?
1-Jay and Dexter (dex specifically) have been interacting more for the fans. Not necessarily just the few videos they have made for comedy, but even in the Lon Teper interview with jay we just saw, more emphasis was place upon the "big two" seeming to be dexter and jay.
2-Since an significant amount of "in tune" fans agree that its politics, then one cannot necessarily "simply disregard" this possibility as bullshit. I think theres a LOT MORE fans that would prefer NOT to see jay win again than there are fans who want him to. The same package; No vascularity, unpleasant midsection (one cannot claim this actually LOOKS GOOD. Perhaps alone, but not when standing next to dex) Big. Blocky. Huge head cartoon. No disrespect to jay, nor am i claiming dex has a pretty boy face, but the whole "American kid" style jay employs is old.
3-Both MUSCLETECH endorsees, right? So, what loss would it mean to muscletech? (100,000 by jay or dex. No difference)
4-THIS WONT AFFECT JAY IN ANY WAY MONITARILY. He's muscletechs biggest asset, they wont let him get fucked. Duh
5- Racial "equalization"- black man winning 8 olympias in a row, then white man repeating the same pattern. JUST a thought. They maybe could draw more fans of diff races if a black man won again. Has a mexican ever one olympia?
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Your not capable of producing an informative, relative opposing comment.
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i concur boonstack.
dex should have won it last year also, and got 2nd in every mr o since 2003 8)
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if dex were to win the olympia, i think it would of happened by now, unless he's made some significant improvements (which i cant see any that needs to be made) he will be a runner up.
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no he won't still to small. don't get me wrong he is a great bber but he simply does not have the size to stand next to jay or wolf for the matter.. a few more years and he won;t be able to hang with phil either
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if dex were to win the olympia, i think it would of happened by now, unless he's made some significant improvements (which i cant see any that needs to be made) he will be a runner up.
You cant be suggesting HOW YOUR BODY LOOKS has anything to do with it can you? If so, then why the hell is JAY winner? I can name 5 other top pros that SMOKE HIM, dex included.
DOnt give me the "MASS GAME" bs.. People that have this theory usually dont know more in depth about it than what they read from bb.com forums or what they "hear".
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no he won't still to small. don't get me wrong he is a great bber but he simply does not have the size to stand next to jay or wolf for the matter.. a few more years and he won;t be able to hang with phil either
bodybuilding is about more than size - hope this helps :-*
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You cant be suggesting HOW YOUR BODY LOOKS has anything to do with it can you? If so, then why the hell is JAY winner? I can name 5 other top pros that SMOKE HIM, Dex included.
one would hope so, but i just don't see Dex winning, i think that it would be really good for the sport to have a smaller competitor win the Olympia.
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You cant be suggesting HOW YOUR BODY LOOKS has anything to do with it can you? If so, then why the hell is JAY winner? I can name 5 other top pros that SMOKE HIM, dex included.
DOnt give me the "MASS GAME" bs.. People that have this theory usually dont know more in depth about it than what they read from bb.com forums or what they "hear".
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i dont believe that i said anything about "MASS GAME".
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Jay all the way. He is a great Mr O. Dexter is a shitbag of a person and they don't want a black guy. Dexter would do nothing for the sport.
Jay would have to look truly terrible to be denied his 3rd.
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You cant be suggesting HOW YOUR BODY LOOKS has anything to do with it can you? If so, then why the hell is JAY winner? I can name 5 other top pros that SMOKE HIM, dex included.
DOnt give me the "MASS GAME" bs.. People that have this theory usually dont know more in depth about it than what they read from bb.com forums or what they "hear".
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i dont believe that i said anything about "MASS GAME".
you didnt HAVE to say anything. If you implied JAY was going to win, then it was already established thats what u were referring to.
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THE PERCEPTION AND THE REALITY OF WHAT MR OLYIMPIA IS 2 DIFFERENT THINGS,AND IDEALS.
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you didnt HAVE to say anything. If you implied JAY was going to win, then it was already established thats what u were referring to.
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don't assume to know what i am referring just ask next time if you want to know.
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Jay all the way. He is a great Mr O. Dexter is a shitbag of a person and they don't want a black guy. Dexter would do nothing for the sport.
Jay would have to look truly terrible to be denied his 3rd.
Why you think he is GREAT? (i dont mean to start shit, just logical arguments)
1- Personality? Yes, he is a great "conservative" mr. olympia, and person in general. I give him that, great guy. But, RONNie was great, haney was a nice guy im sure, basically "it only goes so far" i would think. Its like OK jay we "get it", you are nice. We like you. What about something new that would promote controversy in the game? It cant just be "at home family" politics that support it forever.
He ALWAYS looks terrible. Sure, huge and looks damn impressive, not taking away that, he is awesome. But, NO VASCULARITY. NO DEEP STRIATIONS. NONE. So, why would u say this? (relative to other competitors i mean)
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you didnt HAVE to say anything. If you implied JAY was going to win, then it was already established thats what u were referring to.
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don't assume to know what i am referring just ask next time if you want to know.
ok "brent" ::)
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Your not capable of producing an informative, relative opposing comment.
Look at the picture I posted. It's all you need to know.
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Jay all the way. He is a great Mr O. Dexter is a shitbag of a person and they don't want a black guy. Dexter would do nothing for the sport.
Jay would have to look truly terrible to be denied his 3rd.
i used to think dex and jay were both very dull and boring, i've never watched a jay dvd more than once because of his dull, boring personality.
i also rercently purchased dex's new dvd and i can honestly say it was the most boring dvd ever, i almost fell asleep, he hardly talks, and when he does its about nothing interesting.
however whenever i see interviews with them off season they seem much more interesting and fun.
squadfathersweetmuscle, why do you think dex is a shitbag?
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I have heard nothing but bad shit about Dexter. Obviously this is only anecdotal and word of mouth stuff but it's all bad.
I like Jay because the guy is articulate and can talk properly. He lives a decent life and is a family man. He's white and has blonde hair too. Seriously, I think he's a better role model and spokeperson for the sport than anyone else. In terms of broadening the appeal of bodybuilding and making it less of a freak/f.aggot/ ethnic minorities pastime then I think he's the best possible. I also think he looks pretty good. He was off last year but his mass is remarkable. Particularly for a white guy.
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Why is everyone discussing this topic as if the Olympia is a true contest?
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Dex will never win an Olympia, end of discussion. Look at the past 20 years of judging and you'll see why Dex won't ever win. If judges wanted that look, then Sean Ray would have been a multiple Mr. O winner, but he never was.
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Keep dreaming it's Cutlers to lose ::)
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Dexter's best was probably at this year's Arnold, so if it's ever going to happen, this is the year. It all comes down to Jay's conditioning, if he comes in like last year there will be a new champion even if it's not Dexter.
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I absolutey 100% agree with you. Look,
sure he is fucking insane, he is one of my absolute favs. I did not mean to come off that i was not a fan, he is the best "candidate" for appealing to the 'good people' of america. I "get" what you are saying. But, one cannot claim that OTHER pros standing side by side with jay dont kill him. Sure, there are plenty of others that dont. But, Toney Freeman, Vic (when good), WOLF (HOW THE FUCK DID HE NOT WIN!?!?!), countless other "top" competitors". So, its not because he has the absolute BEST physique.
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Give Jay his third Sandow and let him retire. Problem solved.
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Give Jay his third Sandow and let him retire. Problem solved.
he's already said he's going for sandow #4 next.
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bodybuilding is about more than size - hope this helps :-*
greag kovacs should of won a long time ago........whats wrong with lou forriggino...
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Dex will never win an Olympia, end of discussion. Look at the past 20 years of judging and you'll see why Dex won't ever win. If judges wanted that look, then Sean Ray would have been a multiple Mr. O winner, but he never was.
GOOD POINT AND WELL TAKEN...........
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i simply do not understand fans who think cutler should win mr o. ???
he clearly is massive, but lacks detail, has rolls of fat on his lower back, holds water, skin is thick, has a gh gut, and an unpleasing blocky shape - the one's who do feel he is a deserving mr o either do not understand the rules/guidelines in which a bodybuilder is judged or simply like him for reasons other rthan his physique i.e. personality, skin colour, looks, etc
dorian is another who should not have won as many mr o's as he did.
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There are alot more people doing the O than Jay and Dexter.
Dexter won last year
This year will surprise everyone - The boards will not be selecting the winners , neither with the sponsors !
The Best man of the Day will win - Focus on that and enjoy the show !
Congrats on Muscle Tech Trying to be entertaining !
Good effort - effort being key word!
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There are alot more people doing the O than Jay and Dexter.
Dexter won last year
This year will surprise everyone - The boards will not be selecting the winners , neither with the sponsors !
The Best man of the Day will win - Focus on that and enjoy the show !
Congrats on Muscle Tech Trying to be entertaining !
Good effort - effort being key word!
If it was a fair show, Dennis Wolf would be going for his second title this year.
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I donīt think that Dennis Wolf won last year, but his final placing was well deserved (i had him in 4th last year), and he showed how much he was capable to improve from 2006 to 2007. And it seems that he could improve for this year Mr. O as much as last year.
The question is, how much will Jay Cutler or Dexter Jackson be better than last year ? If not enough (?) Dennis Wolf will be ready to take
the Sandow.
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:'( bodybuilding has died, does no one understand the judging criteria anymore
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How could he not?
Easily. Jay is the new Dorian and will win aslong as he's in good condition. From the "X week out" pics, he will be.
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Dexter Jackson and Dennis Wolfe represent the best bodies on show politics aside, its just that the olympia is never judged without politics, so Jay will win.
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Jay could lose both his legs in a car crash and still turn up and win. The Olympia is about politics not physique
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The battle will be between Dex and Jay but it should be for 2nd and 3rd.
FLEX magazine is a biased joke. The IFBB is a joke i mean they put King Kamali ahead of Wolf who can take the fucks seriously.
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No he won't.
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Jay all the way. He is a great Mr O. Dexter is a shitbag of a person and they don't want a black guy. Dexter would do nothing for the sport.
Jay would have to look truly terrible to be denied his 3rd.
they don't want a black guy.
Crack kills!
Jay hasnt do nothing for the sport.
That's more like it.
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lots of racist undertones in this thread :'(
just like i thought, people are judging mr o from a skin colour standpoint and not on physique. :'(
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the only way Dexter will win the Olympia is if Jay and Victor get in a car accident driving to the show.