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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: New Hank Wood on August 28, 2008, 07:08:22 AM
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Why do Pro Bodybuilders continue with the falsity that 'steroids are harmless'?
Seriously, this is the only industry that still peddles the same misinformed and untruthful garbage about these drugs!
The Pro's continue to rationalize and justify the use of steroids, gh, insulin, diuretics etc etc.
This is irresponsible and borders on the criminal.
This industry with its so-called athletes must start by telling the truth about the dangerous practices of drug taking -which are intrinsic to success in the sport!
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They ARE harmless when used in moderate dosages. Just like alcohol and tabacco.
I would have been very sick and probably dead if they had the power to harm people.
Also "hank wood" you seem to forget that steroids were introduced in the medical world as life savers.
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i have the vocal HERB and must post a BLURB as you DISTURB because your spam stinks like a TURD
and i must throw this to the fricken CURB; isnt this SUBPERB!
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i have the vocal HERB and must post a BLURB as you DISTURB because your spam stinks like a TURD
and i must throw this to the fricken CURB; isnt this SUBPERB!
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Well, Hank, according to Bob Chic and Princess Tom, drugs are merely finishing touches and not really intrinsic to the sport. What say YOU to these assertions?
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The industry thrives on misinformation!
Like so many, i am absolutely fed up with these so-called Pros spreading lies about their cycles. Yes, they continue to misrepresent the product!
These insecure meatheads must desist in presenting themselves as 'medical authorities' on this subject!
And yes, stop confusing the role steroids play in treating medical conditions such as 'heart bi pass surgery' with blatant and ignorant abuse perpetuated by these dumb-fuck-zero-iq-thong-prancing-midgets!
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I would have been very sick and probably dead if they had the power to harm people.
That doesn't mean that these drugs are harmless, that just means that you had luck till now.
It's the same with smoking: There are also people who can smoke like a chimney for 60 years without having lung cancer, would you say smoking is harmless because of that??
Basically it's all fate. There are guys like Schwarzenegger or Stallone who are on the sauce for more than 40 years and still alive at 60; and hundreds of others (like many wrestlers) die in their 30s or 40s because of the side effects. Pure Fate! :)
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The industry thrives on misinformation!
Like so many, i am absolutely fed up with these so-called Pros spreading lies about their cycles. Yes, they continue to misrepresent the product!
These insecure meatheads must desist in presenting themselves as 'medical authorities' on this subject!
And yes, stop confusing the role steroids play in treating medical conditions such as 'heart bi pass surgery' with blatant and ignorant abuse perpetuated by these dumb-fuck-zero-iq-thong-prancing-midgets!
classic!
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They ARE harmless when used in moderate dosages. Just like alcohol and tabacco.
I would have been very sick and probably dead if they had the power to harm people.
Also "hank wood" you seem to forget that steroids were introduced in the medical world as life savers.
you must be a monster, post up a picture.
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Well, they can be harmless if used properly & in low/moderate doses. However, I think it's more then steroids that contribute to bodybuilding being the "danger" you think it is (rec drugs, pain killers, diuretics, simulants).
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That doesn't mean that these drugs are harmless, that just means that you had luck till now.
It's the same with smoking: There are also people who can smoke like a chimney for 60 years without having lung cancer, would you say smoking is harmless because of that??
Basically it's all fate. There are guys like Schwarzenegger or Stallone who are on the sauce for more than 40 years and still alive at 60; and hundreds of others (like many wrestlers) die in their 30s or 40s because of the side effects. Pure Fate! :)
hahahahaa, Stallone on the sauce. ;D
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The lesson here is; Pro Bodybuilders are not to be believed.
No drug dealer/pusher/user should be given any credit!
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The doses of steroids that national level & pro BBers take are without a doubt harmful to their health. Understand this so you don't make the same mistakes. Natural, of couse, is best.
ie...Take 2 or 3 advil per day with food, minimal worries, take 30 & you'll have kidney & stomach problems.
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The doses of steroids that national level & pro BBers take are without a doubt harmful to their health. Understand this so you don't make the same mistakes. Natural, of couse, is best.
ie...Take 2 or 3 advil per day with food, minimal worries, take 30 & you'll have kidney & stomach problems.
Beat me to the punch...
EVERYTHING can be harmful if taken to extreme, and the reverse stands as well. I'm sure smoking one cigarette/ day would most likely not give you cancer...
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Beat me to the punch...
EVERYTHING can be harmful if taken to extreme, and the reverse stands as well. I'm sure smoking one cigarette/ day would most likely not give you cancer...
so you agree then that the dosages of steroids that YOU take are harmful to your health?
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so you agree then that the dosages of steroids that YOU take are harmful to your health?
They could be...I guess I'l let you know when I'm 90
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They could be...I guess I'l let you know when I'm 90
:P :P :P :P
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you must be a monster, post up a picture.
Gotta fix my camera first ::) ;D
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Why do Pro Bodybuilders continue with the falsity that 'steroids are harmless'?
evidence please.
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Moderate, yes "moderate" sounds very reassuring. As in "moderate doses of heroin."
Does one's endocrine system know that you are being "moderate."
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This sport is built on 'misinformation' and 'truth rationalisation'.
Oh yeah, it is quite normal for young healthy men to suffer long term illness and even die prematurely.
So the line is; steroids dont contribute to heart disorders, organ meltdowns, mental illness and strokes?
And yes, what the industry fails to devulge, is that these seemingly 'health alert individuals' live on diets of steroids, diuretics, rec drugs, ibuprofen, red meat and whey.
Oh yeah, everyone else is wrong; the industry is healthy and practices sensible protocols. Yeah right!
The industry is a fraud and is exploiting and misleading its stakeholders!
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The lesson here is; Pro Bodybuilders are not to be believed.
No drug dealer/pusher/user should be given any credit!
YOU MEAN BILLY MAYS TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT THE PRODCTS HE REPRESENTS???
THE FDA DOES NOT LIE?
I REALLY CAN RUN FASTER, JUMP HIGHER AND PLAY BETTER SPROTS IF I WEAR CERTAIN SNEAKERS?
SPINICH WILL MAKE ME VERY STRONG IF I EAT A CAN OF IT??
THE POLICE ARE ALL HONEST???
OUR POLITICIANS ARE NOT CORRUPT???
ALL DIET PILLS WORK?
YOU CAN EAT OFF THE FLOOR IT IS SO CLEAN, SO USE THIS PROCUCT???
COME ON HW...YOU CAN'T BE THAT DUMB OR CAN YOU? WHY SIT ON THIS BOARD MOUTHING OFF IF YOU HATE BB SO MUCH, IF YOU HATE DRUGS SO MUCH, FRUGS ARE A PART OF ALL SPORTS REGARDLESS OF YOUR BELIEF OR KNOWLEDGE OF THIS FACT. ARE YOU ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS SPOKEN OF WHO IS HERE JUST TO LOOK AT THE MEN IN THONGS AND EXERCISE YOUR HAND???...IT CERTAINLY SEEMS SO...
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YOU MEAN BILLY MAYS TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT THE PRODCTS HE REPRESENTS???
THE FDA DOES NOT LIE?
I REALLY CAN RUN FASTER, JUMP HIGHER AND PLAY BETTER SPROTS IF I WEAR CERTAIN SNEAKERS?
SPINICH WILL MAKE ME VERY STRONG IF I EAT A CAN OF IT??
THE POLICE ARE ALL HONEST???
OUR POLITICIANS ARE NOT CORRUPT???
ALL DIET PILLS WORK?
YOU CAN EAT OFF THE FLOOR IT IS SO CLEAN, SO USE THIS PROCUCT???
COME ON HW...YOU CAN'T BE THAT DUMB OR CAN YOU? WHY SIT ON THIS BOARD MOUTHING OFF IF YOU HATE BB SO MUCH, IF YOU HATE DRUGS SO MUCH, FRUGS ARE A PART OF ALL SPORTS REGARDLESS OF YOUR BELIEF OR KNOWLEDGE OF THIS FACT. ARE YOU ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS SPOKEN OF WHO IS HERE JUST TO LOOK AT THE MEN IN THONGS AND EXERCISE YOUR HAND???...IT CERTAINLY SEEMS SO...
Well said...
To answer the question at large:
Steroids ARE harmless...
it's USING them that's the issue!
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The argument relating to the 'use and abuse' of steroids is circular.....and endless.
My issue is, the way in which this industry tries to mask everything. Play dumb. The whole 'head in the sand' attitude. Its pathetic and irresponsible!
At the end of the day, the health and fitness industry should be about health and fitness. Hence, steroids do 'not' fit this paradigm!
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Basically it's all fate. There are guys like Schwarzenegger or Stallone who are on the sauce for more than 40 years and still alive at 60; and hundreds of others (like many wrestlers) die in their 30s or 40s because of the side effects. Pure Fate! :)
I don't think what the wrestlers die of is steroids. Wrestlers live for the high of performing for tens of thousands of people in the arena and the millions (and millions) watching at home. They basically lead a rockstar lifestyle. I can assume they do alot of rec drugs on the side to keep that high going and it plays havoc with their heart.
Regarding steroids being harmful, most of this talk comes from either big wigs who say they're bad simply because they're illegal in the US (and other silly reasons), or those who have had a steroid-using loved one die, so they just use steroids as a scapegoat (see: Bigger, Stronger, Faster movie.) Used properly, steroids are fine. As said, there are countless old time BBers who are still alive in their 60s+.
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An argument can made to literally represent 'anything' in a positive light!
The praises of steroids are sung by the so-called athletes and insecure wannabees who use them.
And they are demonised by those who have medical knowledge and an understanding of the substance.
And yes, steroids are used in the medical industry but this is a different issue. There purpose in this field is not to build grotesque-vanity-driven-muscle just for the sake of fulfilling some banal-Neanderthalic-whimsical-delusion-of grandeur.
I think we are fed up with misinformed roided retards who have the audacity to try educating people on a topic they are not qualified to speak on!
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Depends on the Stack,Choose A or B over 6 months
Stack A- Dianabol 50mg per day,2000mg of Nandralone a week,200mg Stanazol a day
Stack B-Trendalone mg 1000mg a week,Anadrol 200mg per day,Halostien100mg a day,Sustenon250, 1500mg a week
Guess the consequences
Friend 1 who tried stack A put on 45 pounds in 6 months with little to no side effects
Freind 2 who tried stack B devloped bad acne,mood swings,minor gyno and bad blood work.He gained good strength but the more muscle mass he aquired over freind 1 was hardly worth it.
Moral of the story choose your compounds carefully