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Title: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: boonstack on August 28, 2008, 05:19:59 PM
Alcohol is LEGAL - u dont arrest RESPONSIBLE drinkers.

No one ever overdosed on pot. However, i can name a few incidents where alcohol has caused death.  :-*

marijuana has 400 chemicals. Coffee has 1500.

Cigarette smokers are at a much higher risk for health effects. Nobody smokes 20 or 30 joints a day, unlike cigarettes.

So, with alcohol and cigarettes being a much higher HEALTH risk, one cannot argue for the health consequences.

It should be completely legal and taxed. But, bottom line, it DOES cause impaired motor skills. However, so does tylenol pm and Nyquill. ;)
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: Emmortal on August 28, 2008, 05:21:48 PM
Probably not in our lifetime. 

Has there ever been something that was a schedule substance that later was removed from the scheduled list?
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: boonstack on August 28, 2008, 05:27:49 PM
At "one time" women could not vote.

At "one time" blacks were slaves.

Could u imagine if that were the case today? How absurd, how absolutely insane.

But, u can relate this the same way. Over 750,000 people go to jail for "smoking pot." Can u comprehend this? It is DUMB and COUNTERPRODUCTIVE.

GOOD PEOPLE go to JAIL for SMOKING POT. W T F
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: Moosejay on August 28, 2008, 05:29:03 PM
Likely ain't gonna happen, boony.
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: boonstack on August 28, 2008, 05:32:46 PM
Likely ain't gonna happen, boony.

I do agree, and it comes down to one reason. $

I could go to wal-greens and buy a pack or Marlboro Marijuana cigarettes (that these tobacco companies could very easily manufacture and reap TONS of money. i might add. California alone estimated 2 billion in taxes from just pot.  :o)

UNFORTUNATELY, i dont want to buy 30$ carton when i can grow my own.

Its just the lack of rational and legitimate reasoning on behalf of the antagonist (government) that really pisses me off.
Its not like republicans dont smoke pot. ::)
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 28, 2008, 05:33:08 PM
Alcohol is LEGAL - u dont arrest RESPONSIBLE drinkers.

No one ever overdosed on pot. However, i can name a few incidents where alcohol has caused death.  :-*

marijuana has 400 chemicals. Coffee has 1500.

Cigarette smokers are at a much higher risk for health effects. Nobody smokes 20 or 30 joints a day, unlike cigarettes.

So, with alcohol and cigarettes being a much higher HEALTH risk, one cannot argue for the health consequences.

It should be completely legal and taxed. But, bottom line, it DOES cause impaired motor skills. However, so does tylenol pm and Nyquill. ;)

hopefully and I don't smoke this massive waste of resources arresting people for this shit is a joke , lets get serious.
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: boonstack on August 28, 2008, 05:35:48 PM
Glad u offered a realistic perspective, ND.

There is a top narcotics officer turned "bad guy" ::), "pot smoker", who tells it how it is.

3 a.m., full raid gear, loaded guns - busting down doors of a nice family who just happen to smoke. Kids get seperated thru DHR. Parents go to jail. He was sick of it and realized the mature and right thing to do was fight this bs.

I mean come on, GOOD PEOPLE man, going to jail for this.
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: boonstack on August 28, 2008, 05:37:20 PM
Watch this and learn.


Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: odilly on August 28, 2008, 05:42:27 PM
 i don't smoke and i am all for it (tax the shit out of it and make us some money plus a good boom for all the tobacco farmers who are losing their shirts) but what i see holding it back is the ability to enforce the taxes how does anyone know if that joint your smoking came from a tax free drug dealer or from the corner weed store. plus they are thinking that weed smoke may have a few more carcinogens then anyone ever thought
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: boonstack on August 28, 2008, 05:46:50 PM
i don't smoke and i am all for it (tax the shit out of it and make us some money plus a good boom for all the tobacco farmers who are losing their shirts) but what i see holding it back is the ability to enforce the taxes how does anyone know if that joint your smoking came from a tax free drug dealer or from the corner weed store. plus they are thinking that weed smoke may have a few more carcinogens then anyone ever thought

Coca cola has Diabetes written all over it, and its still legal.

Mcdonalds is legal.

Walmart is legal.

However, pot DOES have medical benefits, this CANNOT be DENIED. If u are anti-med pot, then try having glaucoma or aids and cancer, let me know how that goes with ur "pills". Im not in it for medicinal purposes, that just happens to be a benefit thru which it is offered. Plus, there would be more initiative for major medicinal companies to study the benefits.
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: odilly on August 28, 2008, 05:51:31 PM
one thing you have to be ready to argue about when you go the medicinal route is the fact that they have perscription pills that are derived from the plant already ( i just sat through like an hour long video on drugs in the work place and this was pretty much one of the topics that it covered......... of course that is one doctor guys words i dont know any of this first hand) what they have made up in pill forms  relieves pain and they have appetite stimulants
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: boonstack on August 28, 2008, 05:53:04 PM
one thing you have to be ready to argue about when you go the medicinal route is the fact that they have perscription pills that are derived from the plant already ( i just sat through like an hour long video on drugs in the work place and this was pretty much one of the topics that it covered......... of course that is one doctor guys words i dont know any of this first hand) what they have made up in pill forms  relieves pain and they have appetite stimulants

Remember when the "hippie" woodstock era was "soooooooooooo bad".... Bet we wouldnt have pictured where we are today.  8)
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 28, 2008, 05:57:11 PM
Has there ever been something that was a schedule substance that later was removed from the scheduled list?

(http://www.erowid.org/library/books/images/moonshiners_bootleggers.jpg)
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: odilly on August 28, 2008, 06:01:47 PM
the woodstock era was gross a bunch of dirty hippies with no jobs rolling around the u.s in their piece of shit vans and buses they can keep that life.... could imagine the revenue though if we could have taxed all those drugs it might have payed for half of the money spent caving in their heads with billy clubs and turning the fire hoses on them when they tried to press their beliefs on people who didn't want it....kind of ironic them trying to defend their beliefs, by pressing them on the people, who they felt where trying to press their beliefs on them.

god i hate hippies
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: Zaphod on August 28, 2008, 06:13:33 PM
I am all for legalizing it, but what idiot would compare it to McDonalds?
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: tweeter on August 28, 2008, 06:13:38 PM
Watch this and learn.




God I hate those bitches on Fox News.
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: Zaphod on August 28, 2008, 06:17:49 PM
God I hate those bitches on Fox News.

Megyn Kelly  :P
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: boonstack on August 28, 2008, 06:18:44 PM
I am all for legalizing it, but what idiot would compare it to McDonalds?

the fact there are HEALTH concerns. You "cant" smoke because its "bad", but u can down a lb of fat lard and promote heart disease.
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: boonstack on August 28, 2008, 06:19:50 PM
Megyn Kelly  :P

nice avatar perhaps we can hangout
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: bigdumbbell on August 28, 2008, 06:20:44 PM
No
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: Camel Jockey on August 28, 2008, 06:21:09 PM
Marijuana also has good medicinal qualities. It'd be a safer alternative to treating mild to chronic pain than opiates, and it'd be good for insomnia, appetite loss from aids/cancers and various other ailments.. Obviously, most people use it for recreational purposes, which I also think is fine considering a joint is safer than a bottle of liquor. MJ being banned is pretty hypocritical considering alcohol is legal. Alcohol causes serious addiction with withdrawl, and both liver and brain damage. It's also easy for an inexperienced drinker to overdose on alcohol, or have serious alcohol impairment related accidents.

Marijuana should be legalized.
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: boonstack on August 28, 2008, 06:21:27 PM
No

figures, "bigdumbbell"... ::)
























 ::)
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: tweeter on August 28, 2008, 06:30:13 PM
I'm not really into pot myself but I think its a total waste of government resources for it to be illegal.
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on August 28, 2008, 06:38:02 PM
Nobody smokes 20 or 30 joints a day, unlike cigarettes.



Yes they do, some go to 50+.

It's still something that can fuck with people's minds.

There is too much money to be made policing it. The government doesn't want to take the risk that they could make more money legalising it. If they wanted, they could always do it and spin the hell out of it. Always. Look at Iraq and the WMD.
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: Camel Jockey on August 28, 2008, 06:40:37 PM
Yes they do, some go to 50+.

It's still something that can fuck with people's minds.

There is too much money to be made policing it. The government doesn't want to take the risk that they could make more money legalising it. If they wanted, they could always do it and spin the hell out of it. Always. Look at Iraq and the WMD.


lol 50 joints  ::)
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: boonstack on August 28, 2008, 06:41:46 PM
Yes they do, some go to 50+.
It's still something that can fuck with people's minds.

There is too much money to be made policing it. The government doesn't want to take the risk that they could make more money legalising it. If they wanted, they could always do it and spin the hell out of it. Always. Look at Iraq and the WMD.

You just lost all your credibility.

Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: Camel Jockey on August 28, 2008, 06:44:44 PM
With the quality of some of today's marijuana, even heavy smokers can get STONED(not just high) with 1-2 joints.

And marijuana isn't like alcohol. Its potency can vary from batch to batch as there are 1,000 different strain comprised of hybrids, and not to mention the pure indicas and sativas, and wild landrace strains.
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: boonstack on August 28, 2008, 06:47:14 PM
With the quality of some of today's marijuana, even heavy smokers can get STONED(not just high) with 1-2 joints.

And marijuana isn't like alcohol. Its potency can vary from batch to batch as there are 1,000 different strain comprised of hybrids, and not to mention the pure indicas and sativas, and wild landrace strains.

exactly. I can take 1 or 2 hits (not that i smoke) of some very high grade weed, and be thoroughly annihilated.

Look, the people that "get it", get it, the ones that dont, dont.

The facts are all out there, yet people try SO HARD to fight against something they really dont have a clue about.
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: alejandro_torres on August 28, 2008, 07:18:33 PM
go to amstermdam.. you will hate pot after the first hour...
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: pumpster on August 28, 2008, 07:29:13 PM
Stoners are too busy smoking to make it happen. No reason it shouldn't be legal but it would take major effort.
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: 3Dkiller on August 28, 2008, 07:33:02 PM
god thank i life in the netherlands :)
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: alejandro_torres on August 28, 2008, 07:37:49 PM
god thank i life in the netherlands :)

the red light disctrict was good  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: disco_stu on August 28, 2008, 07:45:02 PM
you'd be surprised at how many people have become depressed, psychotic and schitzophrenic from marijuana.

and addicted to its effects..

that's why it wont be legalised. It's a dangerous drug as many people can use it without ill, or long term effects, so those people cant see the problem.

the others that it screws up end up walking into schoolyards with automatic weapons, or cutting people's heads off on buses.

This is legit. The psych wards are chock full of dope smokers, and ex dopers.

I'm not kidding.

Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: Camel Jockey on August 28, 2008, 08:19:30 PM
you'd be surprised at how many people have become depressed, psychotic and schitzophrenic from marijuana.

and addicted to its effects..

that's why it wont be legalised. It's a dangerous drug as many people can use it without ill, or long term effects, so those people cant see the problem.

the others that it screws up end up walking into schoolyards with automatic weapons, or cutting people's heads off on buses.

This is legit. The psych wards are chock full of dope smokers, and ex dopers.

I'm not kidding.



Psych wards are full of heroin shooters and smokers. And you can pretty much make the same arguement for alcohol, while retracting your marijuana one. Marijuana is actually very sedative and people are less likely to commit violence by smoking it than alcohol. You are using a select group of people who're more prone to drug abuse, depression and other things. These people abuse a host of drugs, and are more genetically prone to, so what does it have to do with the average person having the right to blaze one? People who have problems will always have problems. Just because they abuse marijuana, alcohol and a host of other drugs doesn't mean that those drugs can't be used responsibly.

You also did not provide a single study to back those claims. I have never seen an independent study of marijuana being linked to those conditions. And even if there were, there'd still be a case to legalize as you already have a legal drug(alcohol) that causes all those adverse conditions you mentioned, along with violence, instability, destruction of the liver/stomach/brain. You've also got prescription opiates which are some of the most addictive drugs ever.
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: titusisback on August 28, 2008, 09:37:20 PM
What are you guys talking about? Pot IS legal!

Oh yeah.. sorry, my mistake.. many of you live in a "free" country called U.S.

Greetings from Canada! I'll have a joint to celebrate american freedom. Peace!
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: marcus on August 28, 2008, 09:47:35 PM
Cue Matt C in 3...2...oh shit is he still in Time Out?  ::)
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: Zaphod on August 28, 2008, 11:22:19 PM
nice avatar perhaps we can hangout

 :-*
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: Zaphod on August 28, 2008, 11:23:18 PM

lol 50 joints  ::)

Only on Getbig.  :-\
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: Sarcastic Deity on August 29, 2008, 12:03:11 AM
it's already "decriminalized" in some places, but it'll never be completely legal; the law has a funny way of keeping all avenues of probable cause open.

by the way, the plant has been cultivated since prehistoric times, and most of that time it's been done openly and without fear of trouble.  to think that the species has suddenly unlocked her secrets to potency within the last 10 or 15 years isn't realistic.  as a matter of fact, the strongest sample ever tested by the government happened to be in 1976.
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: younggunz on August 29, 2008, 12:34:13 AM
yes it is legal. i live in cal, all my friends have their cards and  have had them for years now.i made my apointment last week dont kno y i waited so long, getting your card is a joke all they want is their money. it is now taxed also. Of course the state wants their cut, as they should. ive been smoke'n for years. i dont smoke every day maybe 2-3 times a week at night, (not the case 2 yrs ago)  i do believe it should b legal, but i myself  kno many of the sides, it is different for everyone!,  and thats really the prob every one reacts very different i kno many ppl that function great on weed, where other get so parinoid its not fun, the true prob is that some ppl dont kno when to stop and many ppl can go down a very slow spiral not even realizing its negative effects. myself, it makes me less motivated to do thing like most ppl, which if u think about it can b very harmful to kids/ young adults. makes me parinoid to an extent, i try not 2 smoke b4 going to any social event of any kind. short term memory loss is huge if u smoke often. And the whole since of time is very scewd if u smoke alot, its like any other substance it can easily b abused. the prob w/ weed is it always starts out fine. yes u smoke but ur not a "stoner" till a couple years down the road many ppl find it all around to b better when high. so ppl go to work high, come home get high and so on. it also has tons of benifits dont get me wrong i will probly never completely stop smoking cuz the truth is if u kno how to use it n a benefical way and timely manner it is great. The thought of having kids n a place where weed is legal? im still not so sure. if u have a head on ur shoulders and can realize its not a drug 4 u ul b fine, its the ppl that respond negativly 2 weed and continue to smoke, cuz either social reasons, (the cool kids do it), or the fact that it kills bordom! which i believe y most ppl smoke, if ur bored and not doin nothin might as well b high( which ensures u wont b do'n nothin). im still up and down on the legal issue, fact is it wont hurt no one cuz it calms everyone down, cant O.D , its all natural, down side 2 many ppl r retarted and iresponsible and would abuse it, like the niegborhood stoner that talks 4 words a minute and still lives w/ mom. should u have the right to abuse it SURE! would u want ur kids a young ppl of america to beable to abuse it? thats the tough 1.
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: pumpster on August 29, 2008, 01:21:07 AM
you'd be surprised at how many people have become depressed, psychotic and schitzophrenic from marijuana.

Actually that's not much difference from the effects of many drugs including alcohol.
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: boonstack on August 29, 2008, 06:49:26 AM
Pharmaceuticals would go out of business if weed was legalized (strictly for depression and anxiety) im referring to.

Take 3 or 4 hits from some dank ass weed, and TELL me you dont INSTANTLY feel great, better, relaxed.

As opposed to 3-6 weeks to feel 'dead' from lexapro, seroquel, cymbalta, wellbutrin, straterra, etc etc....
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: Montague on August 29, 2008, 08:02:33 AM
i don't smoke and i am all for it (tax the shit out of it and make us some money plus a good boom for all the tobacco farmers who are losing their shirts) but what i see holding it back is the ability to enforce the taxes how does anyone know if that joint your smoking came from a tax free drug dealer or from the corner weed store.
Good point, but I think it’s kind of similar to buying vegetables from the grocery store vs. your local farmer’s market. They don’t report everything they make. I also speculate that if it is legalized, the volume of crop grown under regulation would overwhelm what is grown with a sunlamp in people’s basements. The price would drop, and it would not be as profitable for the dealers to bother as much anyway.
plus they are thinking that weed smoke may have a few more carcinogens then anyone ever thought
That would also help control overpopulation a bit. :)
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: Montague on August 29, 2008, 08:05:00 AM
Consider this:
“War” is often PR driven, and a war won makes the person who waged it look FANTASTIC!
A war on drugs is one of the easiest wars to wage, and a war on potheads is probably the easiest.
What are they gonna do? Protest with a peace demonstration?

So in our “hyper-violent” society we have politicians lobbying to outlaw a substance that makes people really mellow.
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: boonstack on August 29, 2008, 10:41:15 AM
Consider this:
“War” is often PR driven, and a war won makes the person who waged it look FANTASTIC!
A war on drugs is one of the easiest wars to wage, and a war on potheads is probably the easiest.
What are they gonna do? Protest with a peace demonstration?

So in our “hyper-violent” society we have politicians lobbying to outlaw a substance that makes people really mellow.


Yes, I cant recall a time i smoked and wanted to go "fight" and "drive"... ::) It may be just me, but i usually get really damn calm and happy. Adult swim, bowl of cocoa puffs cereal- shit baby its time to roll.
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: Sarcastic Deity on August 29, 2008, 05:43:49 PM
you'd be surprised at how many people have become depressed, psychotic and schitzophrenic from marijuana.

and addicted to its effects..

that's why it wont be legalised. It's a dangerous drug as many people can use it without ill, or long term effects, so those people cant see the problem.

the others that it screws up end up walking into schoolyards with automatic weapons, or cutting people's heads off on buses.

This is legit. The psych wards are chock full of dope smokers, and ex dopers.

I'm not kidding.


no, you're completely insane.
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: windsor88 on August 29, 2008, 06:35:20 PM
Pharmaceuticals would go out of business if weed was legalized (strictly for depression and anxiety) im referring to.

Take 3 or 4 hits from some dank ass weed, and TELL me you dont INSTANTLY feel great, better, relaxed.


I smoke weed everyday.  I only do 3-4 hits at a time though just to get a lift.  I can tell you though I have had the most fucked up panic attack after smoking weed.  On my way to a Rush concert years ago.  Very bad feeling.  Now I know it's nothing to get worked up about,  but for a long time whenever I smelled weed I would start to get a panic attack.  Glad those days are gone.  Of course I do occasionally  check my heart rate when I have smoked the Dank from a 6 foot  bong...lol.
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on August 31, 2008, 01:07:25 AM
Yes they do, some go to 50+.

It's still something that can fuck with people's minds.



hahahahahaha, Your 100% right.  ::)

.... and then they play the piano, faster....faster....FAST ER!!
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: webcake on August 31, 2008, 01:15:09 AM
I smoke weed everyday.  I only do 3-4 hits at a time though just to get a lift.  I can tell you though I have had the most fucked up panic attack after smoking weed.  On my way to a Rush concert years ago.  Very bad feeling.  Now I know it's nothing to get worked up about,  but for a long time whenever I smelled weed I would start to get a panic attack.  Glad those days are gone.  Of course I do occasionally  check my heart rate when I have smoked the Dank from a 6 foot  bong...lol.

Everyday huh........ ::)
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: Deicide on August 31, 2008, 02:10:37 AM
Alcohol is LEGAL - u dont arrest RESPONSIBLE drinkers.

No one ever overdosed on pot. However, i can name a few incidents where alcohol has caused death.  :-*

marijuana has 400 chemicals. Coffee has 1500.

Cigarette smokers are at a much higher risk for health effects. Nobody smokes 20 or 30 joints a day, unlike cigarettes.

So, with alcohol and cigarettes being a much higher HEALTH risk, one cannot argue for the health consequences.

It should be completely legal and taxed. But, bottom line, it DOES cause impaired motor skills. However, so does tylenol pm and Nyquill. ;)

What country do you live in? The United States?! :D
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: Deicide on August 31, 2008, 02:11:39 AM
With the quality of some of today's marijuana, even heavy smokers can get STONED(not just high) with 1-2 joints.

And marijuana isn't like alcohol. Its potency can vary from batch to batch as there are 1,000 different strain comprised of hybrids, and not to mention the pure indicas and sativas, and wild landrace strains.

The master has spoken.
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: webcake on August 31, 2008, 02:25:14 AM
The master has spoken.


Do you use illegal drugs too?
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: Deicide on August 31, 2008, 03:22:07 AM

Do you use illegal drugs too?


No, just legal ones.
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: Slin1 on August 31, 2008, 01:34:08 PM
At "one time" women could not vote.

At "one time" blacks were slaves.

Could u imagine if that were the case today? How absurd, how absolutely insane.

But, u can relate this the same way. Over 750,000 people go to jail for "smoking pot." Can u comprehend this? It is DUMB and COUNTERPRODUCTIVE.

GOOD PEOPLE go to JAIL for SMOKING POT. W T F

I'm with you on everything except the women can vote thing
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: disco_stu on September 18, 2008, 03:24:25 PM
Psych wards are full of heroin shooters and smokers. And you can pretty much make the same arguement for alcohol, while retracting your marijuana one. Marijuana is actually very sedative and people are less likely to commit violence by smoking it than alcohol. You are using a select group of people who're more prone to drug abuse, depression and other things. These people abuse a host of drugs, and are more genetically prone to, so what does it have to do with the average person having the right to blaze one? People who have problems will always have problems. Just because they abuse marijuana, alcohol and a host of other drugs doesn't mean that those drugs can't be used responsibly.

You also did not provide a single study to back those claims. I have never seen an independent study of marijuana being linked to those conditions. And even if there were, there'd still be a case to legalize as you already have a legal drug(alcohol) that causes all those adverse conditions you mentioned, along with violence, instability, destruction of the liver/stomach/brain. You've also got prescription opiates which are some of the most addictive drugs ever.

i agree with alot of your post. however there are studies that link marijuana to schitzophrenia and psychosis. many genetically prone, socially triggered depressives self medicate with marijuana and end up in the psych wards.

the bottom line is that it isnt the innocuous drug most people think. its responsible for much social ineptitude and changes of mental states of alot of people. i cant argue that alcohol is any different- except that alcohol isnt illegal...not sure why marijuana isnt legal considering alcohol is.

i can only speculate that alcohol doesnt have the same neurological effects that THC does. THC competes for, and establishes itself at the endorphine sites and eventually forces the brain to change the way it works. Perhaps alcohol has a different mechanism.

i personally lost 10 years of my life and thousands of $ up in smoke from marijuana and whilst under the influence was a different person who made questionable decisions. incluidng socially irresponsible ones.

Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: windsor88 on September 18, 2008, 03:40:33 PM


i personally lost 10 years of my life and thousands of $ up in smoke from marijuana and whilst under the influence was a different person who made questionable decisions. incluidng socially irresponsible ones.



you should have grown your own
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: disco_stu on September 18, 2008, 03:55:57 PM
you should have grown your own

who said i didnt?..once had a resin ball the size of a tennis ball. and im talking pure white fresh THC crystals...not that black crap.

couldve stuck it to an oily wall it was that sticky...

never smoked a piece of leaf- ever. pure skunk...or nothing. it was good for about 9 years but my attitude was bad. the last year was tragic.

Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: Sarcastic Deity on September 20, 2008, 11:20:39 PM
yes it is legal. i live in cal, all my friends have their cards and  have had them for years now.i made my apointment last week dont kno y i waited so long, getting your card is a joke all they want is their money. it is now taxed also. Of course the state wants their cut, as they should. ive been smoke'n for years. i dont smoke every day maybe 2-3 times a week at night, (not the case 2 yrs ago)  i do believe it should b legal, but i myself  kno many of the sides, it is different for everyone!,  and thats really the prob every one reacts very different i kno many ppl that function great on weed, where other get so parinoid its not fun, the true prob is that some ppl dont kno when to stop and many ppl can go down a very slow spiral not even realizing its negative effects. myself, it makes me less motivated to do thing like most ppl, which if u think about it can b very harmful to kids/ young adults. makes me parinoid to an extent, i try not 2 smoke b4 going to any social event of any kind. short term memory loss is huge if u smoke often. And the whole since of time is very scewd if u smoke alot, its like any other substance it can easily b abused. the prob w/ weed is it always starts out fine. yes u smoke but ur not a "stoner" till a couple years down the road many ppl find it all around to b better when high. so ppl go to work high, come home get high and so on. it also has tons of benifits dont get me wrong i will probly never completely stop smoking cuz the truth is if u kno how to use it n a benefical way and timely manner it is great. The thought of having kids n a place where weed is legal? im still not so sure. if u have a head on ur shoulders and can realize its not a drug 4 u ul b fine, its the ppl that respond negativly 2 weed and continue to smoke, cuz either social reasons, (the cool kids do it), or the fact that it kills bordom! which i believe y most ppl smoke, if ur bored and not doin nothin might as well b high( which ensures u wont b do'n nothin). im still up and down on the legal issue, fact is it wont hurt no one cuz it calms everyone down, cant O.D , its all natural, down side 2 many ppl r retarted and iresponsible and would abuse it, like the niegborhood stoner that talks 4 words a minute and still lives w/ mom. should u have the right to abuse it SURE! would u want ur kids a young ppl of america to beable to abuse it? thats the tough 1.

no way i'm going to read all this shit, but it looks like meth is your problem
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: disco_stu on September 22, 2008, 11:05:36 PM
I'm with you on everything except the women can vote thing

agreed. women should not be allowed to vote.

oh, and stupid people.

and gun owners..

and gays..

Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: Monster_Everything on September 23, 2008, 06:37:34 AM
its legalized in my house ...
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: Overload on September 23, 2008, 02:39:15 PM
I have had high anxiety my entire life, and i can say that smoking pot was the main reason why i made it through school without having anxiety attacks.

When i was diagnosed with serious anxiety problems, i was given Xanax, this is the worst drug any person can take. it knocks you unconscious in 30 minutes, so of course the anxiety is gone...lol...but it is addictive and if you run out, you are fucked, seriously, you will flip out and have seizures and shit...bad news.

i smoked before i went to bed and after school for about 5 years, and it leveled my anxiety back to normal. i wouldn't call myself a stoner, but i did smoke pretty much every day for years and i enjoyed it. we used to get high and ride 4 wheelers out in the country and have BBQ's all the time...no harm there!

So it was either Xanax, or pot, i chose pot and i never had a single problem with it.

It should be legal and alcohol should be banned.

Now i have my anxiety under control, so it's really pointless to smoke anymore, but every now and then.................. ;)

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Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: windsor88 on September 23, 2008, 03:35:35 PM
I have had high anxiety my entire life, and i can say that smoking pot was the main reason why i made it through school without having anxiety attacks.

When i was diagnosed with serious anxiety problems, i was given Xanax, this is the worst drug any person can take. it knocks you unconscious in 30 minutes, so of course the anxiety is gone...lol...but it is addictive and if you run out, you are fucked, seriously, you will flip out and have seizures and shit...bad news.

i smoked before i went to bed and after school for about 5 years, and it leveled my anxiety back to normal. i wouldn't call myself a stoner, but i did smoke pretty much every day for years and i enjoyed it. we used to get high and ride 4 wheelers out in the country and have BBQ's all the time...no harm there!

So it was either Xanax, or pot, i chose pot and i never had a single problem with it.

It should be legal and alcohol should be banned.

Now i have my anxiety under control, so it's really pointless to smoke anymore, but every now and then.................. ;)

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I have had issues where weed would cause me to have a panic attack.  Did that ever happen to you?
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: big L dawg on September 23, 2008, 03:50:38 PM
leave it to our government to outlaw.....A plant?...seriously!
Title: Re: will marijuana ever be legalized?
Post by: Overload on September 24, 2008, 08:18:34 AM
I have had issues where weed would cause me to have a panic attack.  Did that ever happen to you?

Only a few times when i smoked way too much at a party or something.

I was a very casual smoker and most of my friends didn't know i smoked regularly.

I would smoke a bowl or two late at night and that's about it.

I never got into the smoking all day long thing, just couldn't do it, made me feel tired and shitty all day.

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