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I'd hit it but not vote for it. ;D
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I thought he was going with Pawlenty for sure, but *love* the Palin pick and I think it's going to play very well nationally.
Well done, GOP.
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lol, with McCain's reputation, this probably isn't sitting well with his wife.
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lol, with McCain's reputation, this probably isn't sitting well with his wife.
???
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Biden will eat her up in the debates (figuratively of course ;)).
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Hello President Obama!
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Hello President Obama!
You got it. :)
But I wonder, would Sarah's title have been MILF in Chief? ;D
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can you imagine her - with 18 MONTHS of governor experience - trying to win the Cold War II?
Can you imagine her trying to negotiate with pakistan, iran, syria?
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The Pandering continues!
heheheheheheh
Good move i guess, If he croaks, then we will have our first female president.
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Excellent choice for McCain.
Recalling most voters are morons.
He will get all the bra burning femi nazis who are pissed over Hillary.
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can you imagine her - with 18 MONTHS of governor experience - trying to win the Cold War II?
Can you imagine her trying to negotiate with pakistan, iran, syria?
Obama has less then 2 years experience as senator and has been actively campaigning for 18 months of that time.
Pot meet Kettle.
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Obama has less then 2 years experience as senator and has been actively campaigning for 18 months of that time.
Pot meet Kettle.
But he has Biden with 35 years of Senate, and a shitload of foreign policy experience.
And there is no cancer on their ticket.
Scary what the rest of the world would do if she was in charge.
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MSNBC:
4 years ago, she was the part-time mayor of a small town in Alaska.
Today she wants to run the world.
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Excellent choice for McCain.
Recalling most voters are morons.
He will get all the bra burning femi nazis who are pissed over Hillary.
Perhaps, but that will be balanced by Obama picking up MCCain's misogynist supporters. :D
PS - She raised taxes when she mayor. :o
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But he has Biden with 35 years of Senate, and a shitload of foreign policy experience.
And there is no cancer on their ticket.
Scary what the rest of the world would do if she was in charge.
Biden won't be president.
You have a presidential hopeful who has voted present more than he has voted anything else.
Yet your worried about the VP.
Hillarious
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MSNBC:
4 years ago, she was the part-time mayor of a small town in Alaska.
Today she wants to run the world.
where was obama four years ago?
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Biden won't be president.
You have a presidential hopeful who has voted present more than he has voted anything else.
Yet your worried about the VP.
Hillarious
exactly hypocrisy at its best
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Perhaps, but that will be balanced by Obama picking up MCCain's misogynist supporters. :D
PS - She raised taxes when she mayor. :o
taxes are going to get raised anyway no matter whos in charge...If you buy into that you probably bought into obamas healthcare for all which it seems he has dropped from his platform.
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You know,
On the surface, this seems like a "fear" pick. they picked her becuase they think they need Hillary's voters to win.
Just thinking out loud.
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Biden won't be president.
You have a presidential hopeful who has voted present more than he has voted anything else.
Yet your worried about the VP.
Hillarious
mccain has had serious cancer 3 times now?
And he keeps 'hitting his head' and showing up with bandages in his same cancer spots?
Historically, candidates have been very successful at hiding medical conditions.
He's 71, in bad physical shape, and is battling invasive cancer. his VP selection is VERY important.
Is Mayor Palin ready for a 3 AM call?
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Is Mayor Palin ready for a 3 AM call?
Yes, for breast feeding, not a national crisis. :-X
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mccain has had serious cancer 3 times now?
And he keeps 'hitting his head' and showing up with bandages in his same cancer spots?
Historically, candidates have been very successful at hiding medical conditions.
He's 71, in bad physical shape, and is battling invasive cancer. his VP selection is VERY important.
Is Mayor Palin ready for a 3 AM call?
is obama?
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mccain has had serious cancer 3 times now?
And he keeps 'hitting his head' and showing up with bandages in his same cancer spots?
Historically, candidates have been very successful at hiding medical conditions.
He's 71, in bad physical shape, and is battling invasive cancer. his VP selection is VERY important.
Is Mayor Palin ready for a 3 AM call?
Nice way to reduce her role as governor.
McCain or Obama will be president.
Obama is not ready for the 3 am call.
Palin will have a few years as VP before she would have to deal with any calls.
Obama has no years as anything. He is an empty suit. He votes present on almost everything. How will he vote present at the UN security council or at NATO.
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Same ticket as the dems, just in reverse.
McCain didn’t need any help anyway attracting the female voters. The Hillary die-hards are still pissed, I don’t care how much they talk about unity. He would have gotten them anyhow.
Good choice~
McCain/Palin ’08 your next White House residents.
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when i heard it i didnt know what to think but the more and more retards on here try to reduce her experience and record the more I think its a good pick. The libs cant say much about her without being hypocritical b/c obama is in the same boat and he is running for the number one spot not the number two.
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So, kinda looks like this choice was made to grab Hillary supporters. I'm wonder how that feels with conservatives that McCain was more concerned with grabbing Hillary votes. I mean, I don't see where this choice is made to enhance any of McCain's weaknesses? It's not, she does not enhance his weaknesses. I'm sure there will be some lip biting on this decision.
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i dont know much about her but she seems like she will pull the further right back in...lifetime member of the NRA baby :D
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Well of course friends are quoted as saying he left his wife for a beauty queen. There was the lobbyist that staffers had to step in between because they thought it was getting romantic and here he's got another beauty queen by his side. I don't imagine his wife is going to be comfortable with them locking the doors to discuss national security issues all time time :D
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i dont know much about her but she seems like she will pull the further right back in...lifetime member of the NRA baby :D
That's going to pull the far right back in? What republicans or conservities can you name that have an issue with guns? Who was worried about McCain's gun stance on the far right? LOL, non issue here. The pro life stance would have been better to point out.
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an nra member? lmfao. she did a beauty pageant, now she owns guns? And why the fuck are there cheer leaders at mccains vp speech lmao..what a joke.
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I'm so glad he didn't pick Romney or Ridge. I'm thinking that he's going to win on two fronts with this selection:
1. He'll have a better chance of suring up the conservative base (evangelicals and social conservatives)
2. He now has a good shot of stealing away the Hillary Clinton voters who are still VERY pissed that Obama won.
Good choice. Still not sure if he's gonna get my vote, but I'm definitely leaning that way.
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I'm so glad he didn't pick Romney or Ridge. I'm thinking that he's going to win on two fronts with this selection:
1. He'll have a better chance of suring up the conservative base (evangelicals and social conservatives)
2. He now has a good shot of stealing away the Hillary Clinton voters who are still VERY pissed that Obama won.
Good choice. Still not sure if he's gonna get my vote, but I'm definitely leaning that way.
I agree with what you said C-500.
But she did say she didn't know what the VP does.... ;D
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That's going to pull the far right back in? What republicans or conservities can you name that have an issue with guns? Who was worried about McCain's gun stance on the far right? LOL, non issue here. The pro life stance would have been better to point out.
agreed but it was just a point, obama apparently wants another assualt rifle ban so...
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when i heard it i didnt know what to think but the more and more retards on here try to reduce her experience and record the more I think its a good pick. The libs cant say much about her without being hypocritical b/c obama is in the same boat and he is running for the number one spot not the number two.
No way.
Obama is a man...a black man, but a man nonetheless.
Sarah is woman.
There's your difference.
Unless one is a president, he has no presidential experience. John McCain has as much presidential experience as I do.
This time around, ideas and the marketing of those ideas by engaging ad people--like Obama--are what counts.
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Hello President Obama!
Hello, President Palin!
I'll be surprised if McCain lives through his first term due to his age.
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McCain Shakes Things Up with Palin Pick
August 29, 2008 - by Jennifer Rubin
www.pajamasmedia.com (http://www.pajamasmedia.com)
The best-kept secret of the 2008 presidential campaign — at least since last week’s vice-presidential sweepstakes — came to an end with John McCain’s selection of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his running mate. McCain successfully completed the greatest head fake of the campaign, leaving most pundits and supporters believing late last night that his pick was Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty.
After a tumultuous morning where William Goldman’s adage was proved true (”no one knows anything”), the guessing came to an end. The choice makes sense on multiple levels. The McCain camp has spent the week stirring the pot, playing on the heartstrings of women disappointed by the rejection of Hillary Clinton, first as the Democrats’ presidential nominee and then as the VP pick. In a presidential race dominated by male senators, Palin will have the sole executive experience of the four candidates. And in the battle for “change” there is no candidate who looks more different and comes from further outside Washington than Palin.
His selection is likely to come as a relief to social conservatives who worried that a pro-choice pick was in the offing and to other conservatives who fretted that a Mitt Romney pick would provide a juicy target for the Democrats, who are already strutting their populist rhetoric. How did McCain get to Palin, who was never on the media-created short list of potential candidates?
The choice of Biden almost certainly complicated McCain’s pick. [1] Romney would have exacerbated the “rich guy” problem which was given new life by the flap over McCain’s multiple houses. It seemed too much to have a dozen homes on the Republican side of the ledger, especially when confronting Biden’s carefully cultivated image of a scrappy kid from Scranton, Pennsylvania. And Pawlenty might have seemed too ordinary and was sure to be overshadowed and out-talked in a debate with Biden.
Multiple floats and refloats about Senator Joe Lieberman made their way to the surface. Had [2] Karl Rove tried to nix the pick? Would social conservatives revolt? By late in the week the buzz started that it might be a woman, Texas Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson or one of McCain’s economic advisers such as Meg Whitman or Carly Fiorina. Late Thursday pundits and McCain supporters still were perplexed and uncertain about the choice, a remarkable achievement in this day of leaks. Given the uncertainty and potential for an intra-party battle, the overwhelming early reaction within Republican ranks is an odd mix of relief and outright excitement. The tour de force maneuver to keep the choice secret certainly shut off the buzz from the Obama speech.
Who is Sarah Palin? She is 44 years old, a former mayor, and the first-term governor of Alaska who ran on an anti-corruption platform. She is a strong advocate of offshore drilling. She is the mother of five including a child with Down Syndrome. In her tenure as Alaska governor she has pursued ethics reform, budget reduction, and natural gas development. In short, she is unlike anyone on either ticket and unlike anyone ever to be on a major party’s ticket. Two large questions loom: How will she handle questions about national security? Will she help McCain?
As to the first question, Palin will argue that in fact Obama has no more experience than she does, and that Palin has the advantage of sharing McCain’s views (and thus being right) on the surge, Russian ambitions, and meetings with state terror sponsors. The VP debate against Biden may be dicey, but the McCain camp knows full well that a vice-presidential debate isn’t going to make or break their candidate. In short, McCain is hoping that Palin is good enough on this score for a number two pick against a Democratic ticket headed by a man with virtually the same meager national security credentials.
As to the second, Palin has much to offer McCain. On a non-political level few can doubt her Q-factor. (She will be the first former beauty queen to run on a national ticket.) The daughter of a teacher and mother of five, she has an ebullient personality and an excellent TV presence. The Right will be entranced: a pro-life hunter with a passion for domestic energy development? And in the battle for “change” she has the record of reform and the identity of a complete Washington outsider. Finally, as a lifelong NRA member, an outdoorswoman, and a western governor she may provide extra help in mountain and western states such as Colorado, Nevada, and New Mexico which are certain to be in play.
On the policy front, Palin can make the case that the Democratic program of higher taxes, more spending, and a government takeover of health care is a proven loser. She will argue that she can bring practical experience from as far outside the Beltway as one can get. And, of course, the presence of a woman on the ticket creates instantaneous excitement and puts into play Clinton voters looking for a new champion.
The pick also tells us something about McCain: he thinks he can win. He was not willing to rock the boat with his conservative base. He can use Palin on offense to make a run at women voters and on defense to blunt the populist attacks from the Democrats. And it shows he understands the need to generate enthusiasm and “newness” in his own campaign. In sum, Palin may prove to be the most exciting pick available to McCain.
The players on both tickets now are set, the battle lines are drawn, and in the weeks ahead Palin will give us a hint as to whether a Washington outsider, conservative reformer, and executive can boost McCain’s prospects. For now, Republicans are breathing a sigh of relief and getting ready for the fight of their lives.
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Hello, President Palin!
I'll be surprised if McCain lives through his first term due to his age.
She's going to be a Quayle rerun.
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She's going to be a Quayle rerun.
I don't think so, Deck.
From what I've read she's a smart lady and speaks well - unlike Danny Boy.
BTW, still not a fan of McLame but damn he picked a hottie.
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I don't think so, Deck.
From what I've read she's a smart lady and speaks well - unlike Danny Boy.
BTW, still not a fan of McLame but damn he picked a hottie.
I just meant she's a pretty face light on experience. That was DQ in a nutshell. I didn't think he was particularly pretty but the liberal media had Redford comparisions.
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I just meant she's a pretty face light on experience. That was DQ in a nutshell. I didn't think he was particularly pretty but the liberal media had Redford comparisions.
Come on, Deck.
Even you have to acknowledge she has more executive experience all of them combined.
The left can't beat her up on lack of experience without addressing Obama's. Of course the right can't either (address experience) but a little bit of something is better than a 100 percent of nothing.
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She's going to be a Quayle rerun.
This is what you're hoping for, right? ;)
Truth be told, I think the Democrats' bubble and Rocky Mountain high has just been burst!!!! Coming off a Woodstock-like euphoria of Obama's fantastic speech last night, feeling on top of the world and thinking, "We're finally going back to the 60's and we'll finally be able to become the socialist country that we've always dreamed of being"...
only to be awakened to the news that McCain's VP selection isn't a rich white man that they can poke fun at as a good ol' boy.
I love it!!!!! ;D
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I just meant she's a pretty face light on experience. That was DQ in a nutshell. I didn't think he was particularly pretty but the liberal media had Redford comparisions.
She's the only one of the 4 candidates who has experience at making executive decisions.
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I'm sure she's a very nice woman.
It's also nice to see the republican party unclench its ass for once and join the 21st century by choosing a woman for VP.
I think the Obama phenomenon is legit. and that his oratory skills dwarf those of his competitors.
That being said, I think he still loses b/c he's black.
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I'm sure she's a very nice woman.
It's also nice to see the republican party unclench its ass for once and join the 21st century by choosing a woman for VP.
I think the Obama phenomenon is legit. and that his oratory skills dwarf those of his competitors.
That being said, I think he still loses b/c he's black.
Would it be wild or what if Obama wins the presidency, but Palin wins the vp spot?
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That being said, I think he still loses b/c he's black.
Honestly, Deck, if Obama loses the election, it will be on the issues. Though he's a spectacular orator, he's a DEPLORABLE debator, and he's on the wrong side of too many issues.
On a side note, I thought it was a class act of John McCain to congratulate Barack Obama on this great achievement...some 45 years to the day that Martin Luther King, Jr. made his "I Have A Dream Speech". Having said that, Obama gave a great speech, but it paled in comparison to MLK Jr.'s speech. Even one of MLK's speech writers said this much.
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Pitiful! He had more than six months to make the best pick for him, and he decides the night before, just to counter Obama's historic and successful DNC week.
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I'm sure she's a very nice woman.
It's also nice to see the republican party unclench its ass for once and join the 21st century by choosing a woman for VP.
I think the Obama phenomenon is legit. and that his oratory skills dwarf those of his competitors.
That being said, I think he still loses b/c he's black.
If he loses it will be because of his socialist policies.
While there are still (on both sides!) open mouth breathers that will vote based on skin color this election will be decided by the issues.
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I like this pick. She has almost the ideal training for the job: city council, mayor, and governor. Just missing military experience, but I assume the Alaska National Guard falls under the gov, like other states, so that is least some experience as a mini CIC. She's a social conservative and shores up the angry conservative voters. Even Dobson might come around.
She diffuses the "historic" nature of Obama's run.
She's outside the beltway.
She has a son on the way to Iraq.
She has a record of cleaning up government corruption.
She is apparently the most popular governor in the country, according to comments I heard on the news this morning (vote at some governor's conference).
Solid pick.
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Solid pick.
We'll see how "solid" this pick is when she is debating Joe Biden on foreign policy issues next month.
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We'll see how "solid" this pick is when she is debating Joe Biden on foreign policy issues next month.
I'm told Palin is known for her frankness just as Senator Biden is. This will be interesting!!!!
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We'll see how "solid" this pick is when she is debating Joe Biden on foreign policy issues next month.
Yes we will. I have never seen her debate, so I have no idea how she will do. I have seen Biden debate and was not impressed, along with the overwhelming majority of the Democrats who voted in the primary. He did nothing to distinguish himself from the likes of Dennis "Martian Man" Kucinich and couldn't beat out a man with no foreign policy experience in Obama or Hillary, who also has zero foreign policy experience.
And unless it will be a one-issue debate, I don't think Biden's foreign policy experience will necessarily carry the day.
I'll be interested to hear Biden talk about issues related to being an executive.
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Same ticket as the dems, just in reverse.
McCain didn’t need any help anyway attracting the female voters. The Hillary die-hards are still pissed, I don’t care how much they talk about unity. He would have gotten them anyhow.
Good choice~
McCain/Palin ’08 your next White House residents.
Correct. You want the less experienced person as VP, not the other way around.
Obama opened the door for this pick by choosing a lifelong insider from a small state.
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Solid pick.
Hahaha!
Ridiculous... You never even heard of this chick before today I'd bet and she's a "solid pick"?
HAHAHA
If people don't see where this is coming from, they're idiots... I called this shit 2 years ago that if any black man ran for President, they would counter it with a woman.... Done and Done.
Won't matter... People will see through this smokescreen of ridiculousness... picking a woman just because she's a woman.
If the US people vote for this then they are dumber than I thought... because all this is, is an insult to people's intelligence.
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Hahaha!
Ridiculous... You never even heard of this chick before today I'd bet and she's a "solid pick"?
HAHAHA
If people don't see where this is coming from, they're idiots... I called this shit 2 years ago that if any black man ran for President, they would counter it with a woman.... Done and Done.
Won't matter... People will see through this smokescreen of ridiculousness... picking a woman just because she's a woman.
If the US people vote for this then they are dumber than I thought... because all this is, is an insult to people's intelligence.
And where exactly did I say I had never heard of her? And what the heck does that have to do with whether she was a solid pick? ::)
The true scary thought is people putting a man like Obama in office, who clearly isn't ready to lead and is a quasi-socialist. Definitely shouldn't be CIC.
McCain completely outmaneuvered Obama IMO.
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Correct. You want the less experienced person as VP, not the other way around.
Obama opened the door for this pick by choosing a lifelong insider from a small state.
The dems are scared, the dems are scared, the dems are scared.
Feminism has been the democrats pony for years. Who offers real change now??!!
Obama picks a typical Washington crow, the very thing he says he's against.
I bet Hillary is pissed.
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And where exactly did I say I had never heard of her? And what the heck does that have to do with whether she was a solid pick? ::)
The true scary thought is people putting a man like Obama in office, who clearly isn't ready to lead and is a quasi-socialist. Definitely shouldn't be CIC.
McCain completely outmaneuvered Obama IMO.
Funny... I guess we can put in a person who tries to turn the US into a police state... Oh wait... We already did that and are trying to keep it up with McCain.
He didn't outmaneuver anyone... Anyone with 1/2 a brain could see this coming... I did... You didn't?
He thinks the only way to beat a black man is with a white woman... I think he's wrong.
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The dems are scared, the dems are scared, the dems are scared.
Feminism has been the democrats pony for years. Who offers real change now??!!
Obama picks a typical Washington crow, the very thing he says he's against.
I bet Hillary is pissed.
Completely agree. There was an air of desparation by CNN "reporters" this morning. There is an air of desparation by the board liberals today.
He's bringing in an outsider with a history of cleaning up government corruption.
Hillary. lol. . . . She probably dropped a few F bombs after the announcement. :D lol . . . .
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The dems strategists with Obama, the real guys running him had her on their worst case senario list....and woke up this moring and said "oh fuck".....its all about perception, the 24 hour news cycle and hype. Obama had a 72 hour window before the RNC to capitalize on the DNC and improve his lead...now what? That window just closed.
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Funny... I guess we can put in a person who tries to turn the US into a police state... Oh wait... We already did that and are trying to keep it up with McCain.
He didn't outmaneuver anyone... Anyone with 1/2 a brain could see this coming... I did... You didn't?
He thinks the only way to beat a black man is with a white woman... I think he's wrong.
LOL. You knew he was picking Palin? Puh-leaze.
You've got my opinion on the pick, although all you quoted was "solid pick." I've laid out the preliminary reasons why I like this pick.
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The dems strategists with Obama, the real guys running him had her on their worst case senario list....and woke up this moring and said "oh fuck".....its all about perception, the 24 hour news cycle and hype. Obama had a 72 hour window before the RNC to capitalize on the DNC and improve his lead...now what? That window just closed.
Hmmm...I wonder if dogshit is ready to take orders from this woman as commander in chief, should McCain keel over one month into office. ::)
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LOL. You knew he was picking Palin? Puh-leaze.
You've got my opinion on the pick, although all you quoted was "solid pick." I've laid out the preliminary reasons why I like this pick.
I knew they would pick a WOMAN.
Remember Mondale and Ferraro in 84... It'll be a repeat in 2008.
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Shocking but exciting. Did not see this coming in the last few weeks. I heard her speak on two of the political shows a few months ago and was very impressed. There was some buzz about her as VP at that time.
Being a gov. is excellent experience for being a president or VP...better than a senator IMO. She doesn't have many yrs of experience, which is concerning, but more than Obama, who is running for pres, not VP. And a cleaner record without questionable mentors and teachers.
I have to give McCain a big thumbs up so far...broke the white male republican mold and with a strong woman who has an excellent record: butting heads with her own party members, cutting spending, cleaning up corruption and a solid conservative.
I'm excited about this pick. I thought it would be Romney and I was wrong! I knew a woman would be possible but just thought he'd pick Pawlenty or Romney.
I predict Obama/Biden will loose this election by a small margin.
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I wonder how long before McCain calls her a c.unt and her hick husband breaks McCain's neck. ;D
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This pick shows a terrible lack of judgment by McCain. This shows desperation, pandering, and that he does not have the best interests of the country at heart.
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Ah, who gives a shit? ;D She's not going to get any Hillary voters with her record on abortion.
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I wonder how long before McCain calls her a c.unt and her hick husband breaks McCain's neck. ;D
Why is he a hick?
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I like this pick. She has almost the ideal training for the job: city council, mayor, and governor. Just missing military experience, but I assume the Alaska National Guard falls under the gov, like other states, so that is least some experience as a mini CIC. She's a social conservative and shores up the angry conservative voters. Even Dobson might come around.
She diffuses the "historic" nature of Obama's run.
She's outside the beltway.
She has a son on the way to Iraq.
She has a record of cleaning up government corruption.
She is apparently the most popular governor in the country, according to comments I heard on the news this morning (vote at some governor's conference).
Solid pick.
She's very nice and likable.
Does she bring any economic power to the ticket?
Romney and Fiorino knew business.
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I knew they would pick a WOMAN.
Remember Mondale and Ferraro in 84... It'll be a repeat in 2008.
Well then you were psychic. By most accounts it was a four horse race in the last month: Ridge, Pawlenty, Lieberman, and Romney.
Mondale ran against Reagan. Obama is no Reagan.
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Well then you were psychic. By most accounts it was a four horse race in the last month: Ridge, Pawlenty, Lieberman, and Romney.
Mondale ran against Reagan. Obama is no Reagan.
I said it two years ago... actually... knowing that the republican machine would do anything to win.
Nice to see they are just as transparent as always.
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Shocking but exciting. Did not see this coming in the last few weeks. I heard her speak on two of the political shows a few months ago and was very impressed. There was some buzz about her as VP at that time.
Being a gov. is excellent experience for being a president or VP...better than a senator IMO. She doesn't have many yrs of experience, which is concerning, but more than Obama, who is running for pres, not VP. And a cleaner record without questionable mentors and teachers.
I have to give McCain a big thumbs up so far...broke the white male republican mold and with a strong woman who has an excellent record: butting heads with her own party members, cutting spending, cleaning up corruption and a solid conservative.
I'm excited about this pick. I thought it would be Romney and I was wrong! I knew a woman would be possible but just thought he'd pick Pawlenty or Romney.
I predict Obama/Biden will loose this election by a small margin.
I agree with this.
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"Why is he a hick?"
Yes, why is this Calmus...somewhat of a racial/insensitive comment...
If I were the dems, I would ask if she is ready to be president if something happens to McCain, particularly because he is 72. He seems in good health and his mom is in her 90s but its always a possibility. I like the pick though and the more I hear from & about her, the more I like her (so far)
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If anyone thinks she is ready to be prez if McCain croaks, then Obama must be 101% ready then.
Now I have read up on her, I am not sure how well she is going to do with female voters. At first I thought she would be a shoe-in.
5 kids? She has a one year old baby with downs syndrome? 5 kids requires an awful lot of mothering, and a down syndrome baby requires extra care. Some women may feel that she is taking on too much. I'm a mom and I don't give a rats ass, no way can one be VP and pay great attention to their 4/5 kids, one being down syndrome.
She will be love/hate with women I think.
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If anyone thinks she is ready to be prez if McCain croaks, then Obama must be 101% ready then.
Now I have read up on her, I am not sure how well she is going to do with female voters. At first I thought she would be a shoe-in.
5 kids? She has a one year old baby with downs syndrome? 5 kids requires an awful lot of mothering, and a down syndrome baby requires extra care. Some women may feel that she is taking on too much. I'm a mom and I don't give a rats ass, no way can one be VP and pay great attention to their 4/5 kids, one being down syndrome.
She will be love/hate with women I think.
With Obama's zero experience.
Ya sure he is ready to president.
What executive experience does he have, how often was in Washington to vote since he has been campaigning for over a year and half.
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If anyone thinks she is ready to be prez if McCain croaks, then Obama must be 101% ready then.
Now I have read up on her, I am not sure how well she is going to do with female voters. At first I thought she would be a shoe-in.
5 kids? She has a one year old baby with downs syndrome? 5 kids requires an awful lot of mothering, and a down syndrome baby requires extra care. Some women may feel that she is taking on too much. I'm a mom and I don't give a rats ass, no way can one be VP and pay great attention to their 4/5 kids, one being down syndrome.
She will be love/hate with women I think.
Let me guess.... liberal women will hate her because she's pro-life, smart, successful, and attractive?
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Let me guess.... liberal women will hate her because she's pro-life, smart, successful, and attractive?
I think that's a fair statement... Women are catty creatures.
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I bet Hillary is pissed.
To the highest of Pissed-tivity (if there could be such a term)!!!!!
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Let me guess.... liberal women will hate her because she's pro-life, smart, successful, and attractive?
Whoomp! There it is!
Let the cat claws come out! ;)
Jag, where are ya? :P
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You just can't criticize her experience because it directly relates to the argument against Obama for the #1 position. I would argue that her executive experience as gov is better than his experience as senator, most of which has been running for president.
CQ, I agree with you with regards to the children. That is an issue, but she must have great support from her husband & family to do this. One child is in the military and over 18, her daughter will be 18 so thats 2 kids basically out of the house. However, a child with downs needs a lot of care.
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I think I heard her husband is essentially a full-time dad?
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Let me guess.... liberal women will hate her because she's pro-life, smart, successful, and attractive?=
Don't know and don't care, it's the mothering issue I refer to. Nor I am reffeing to my opinion, I mean public sentiment.
Hard to attend 4 sets of baseball games, PTA meetings, help with 4 sets of homework a day, watch 4 sets of "look at me mommy!", slap bandages on 4 sets of knees, attend the numerous doctor appts etc for the special needs one - while doing a bang up job as VP.
What will she skip meeting Putin as kid #2 is getting her tonsils out? Cancel a NAFTA meeting as kid #3 has a teachers meeting?
At times one will suffer - FACT. It's all good, but many mothers feel kids come first no matter what. That may impact the votes, without that she'd clean up on female votes imo.
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I think I heard her husband is essentially a full-time dad?
So you mean he just sits around while she "politics"?
Sad.
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CQ, if her husband is basically a near full time dad, it could be done and has been done historically with the roles reversed. However, I completely agree with your point that its a difficult task.
I think most women are better suited for early childcare than men by nature...but thats a generality that is incorrect in some cases.
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So you mean he just sits around while she "politics"?
Sad.
No idea. I've never cared for a kid with Down's Syndrome so I can't say.
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Eighty percent approval rating? :o
Why McCain Picked Palin
Friday, Aug. 29, 2008
By MICHAEL GRUNWALD AND JAY NEWTON-SMALL
John McCain needs to persuade swing voters that he's willing to take on the Republican establishment. He needs to persuade conservatives that he isn't squishy about social issues. And he needs to close the gender gap. When you think about it, the real surprise about Sarah Palin's selection as his running mate is that it's such a surprise.
Palin may be an obscure 44-year-old first-term governor and mother of five from tiny Wasilla, Alaska, but in many ways she reinforces John McCain's narrative of a maverick conservative crusader. She's risen to power by battling corruption in her own state's Republican establishment, exposing misconduct by the state GOP chairman and challenging the incumbent GOP governor. She's a committed Christian who's pro-life in practice as well as in theory; she recently gave birth to a son that she knew would have Down Syndrome.
But Palin can help McCain through biography as well as resume. She'll be the first woman on a Republican ticket, which the campaign is surely hoping will appeal to Hillary Clinton voters and help reduce Barack Obama's advantage among women. She's a fresh face to counteract Obama's message of change, and she's about as far outside the Beltway as you can get. A child of the middle class with a friendly face and big hair, she is so affable that she once won Miss Congeniality in a beauty pageant. Her son is about to deploy to Iraq. She's an ice fisherman, a moose hunter, a small business owner and a lifetime NRA member. And she shelved her state's pork-laden Bridge to Nowhere that McCain has ridiculed on the trail.
One more point in her favor: In the topsy-turvy election of 2008, the Last Frontier is actually a battleground state — and Palin is Alaska's most popular politician.
There are certainly risks to the choice. Palin's presence will make it awkward for McCain to harp on Obama's inexperience, much less play that attack-dog role herself. She's only served as governor one month longer than Obama's been running for president, and she's argued that her youth helped her clean out corruption in Juneau, echoing an Obama talking point. "The age issue, I think, was more significant in my career than the gender issue; your resume isn't as fat as your opponent's, that kind of thing," Palin told TIME last month. "I don't have 30 years of political experience under my belt but that's a good thing. I've never been part of a good-ol'-boys club."
A journalism major from the University of Idaho, Palin started her political career in 1992 as a Wasilla city councilor. She was elected to the first of her two terms as mayor in 1996, and earned a reputation as "Sarah Barracuda" -- also her nickname as a feisty point guard on her high school basketball team -- for taking on entrenched bureaucrats. After running a strong race for lieutenant governor as an unknown in 2002, she made her mark on Alaska politics as a commissioner of a state oil and gas commission, when she tried to expose GOP officials with improper ties to the industry, and eventually resigned in 2004 after her complaints were ignored.
Palin challenged Governor Frank Murkowski in the Republican primary, and crushed the incumbent on a platform of change and reform. She then defeated the formidable former governor Tony Knowles in the general. But it's a long leap from Juneau to the White House. It's not clear what Palin thinks about foreign policy or many other national issues, though she has criticized the lack of a long-term plan for Iraq. And the top consideration for any candidate for the number-two job is readiness for the number-one job, an issue that may weigh more on voters' minds when the potential number one has just turned 72 years old.
Meanwhile, Palin's strong support for drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge will contrast with McCain's muted opposition; she's said she expects McCain to change his mind on the issue, which will create an awkward dynamic no matter what he does. She also surprised Alaska's conservatives by vetoing a bill that would have denied state benefits to same-sex couples (though that might help her appeal to less socially conservative independents). Her profile as a good government crusader may not be such an easy sell, either. She was endorsed in an ad by Senator Ted Stevens, who is now under indictment in a Republican corruption scandal. And she's already embroiled in a mini-scandal that's under investigation by the state senate; Palin's former public safety director has claimed he was fired because he refused to fire a state trooper who was involved in a custody dispute with her sister.
Still, Palin boasts an 80% approval rating. She lived the first three months of her life in Idaho, but Alaskans clearly see this self-described "hockey mom" as one of them, a former Miss Wasilla who worked as a TV sports announcer and helping to run a commercial fishing business before entering politics. Her husband, Todd Palin, is part native Eskimo who works in the oil fields in addition to his fishing business, and is also a champion snowmobiler known in Alaska as the First Dude. In a state where Big Oil is king, Palin has been a staunch drilling supporter while maintaining her independence from the industry. And she impressed a lot of conservative Christians when she carried her son Trig to term despite his genetic tests indicating Down Syndrome. "I'm looking at him right now, and I see perfection," she said after returning to work.
Politically, in a year where the Republican brand is so tarnished, Palin will help McCain make the case that he's a different kind of Republican. It might be his best shot to be America's First Dude.
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1837510,00.html/time/politics/article/0,8599,1837492,00.html
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Eighty percent approval rating? :o
In a state with less people than one borough in NYC. ::)
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In a state with less people than one borough in NYC. ::)
Population 670,000. Who cares? It's still 80 percent. That's pretty rare.
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Population 670,000. Who cares? It's still 80 percent. That's pretty rare.
I'm sure in a small state it's much more likely everyone will agree on more things... It's inevitable that more people will see eye to eye when there is less to see.
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...Being a gov. is excellent experience for being a president or VP...better than a senator IMO. ...
Yes, look what a bargain we got with Bush. ::)
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Population 670,000. Who cares? It's still 80 percent. That's pretty rare.
Is that really rare for a republican in Alaska? My guess would be no, but maybe I'm wrong.
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I'm sure in a small state it's much more likely everyone will agree on more things... It's inevitable that more people will see eye to eye when there is less to see.
Come visit Hawaii sometime. lol. We have about 1.2 million people and although people get along, there is hardly agreement in the political arena. This is a one party state. Democrats have controlled this state nearly 50 years. We elected the first Republican governor in 40 years about 6 years ago. Her approval ratings have been very good (probably ranging between 60 and 70 percent), because she is outstanding, but I don't think she has come close to 80 percent. I also read that her approval rating was above 90 percent in 2007. That's remarkable.
Also, one of the commentators mentioned she was voted the most popular governor in the country by her peers.
She must be doing something right.
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You know,
On the surface, this seems like a "fear" pick. they picked her becuase they think they need Hillary's voters to win.
Just thinking out loud.
Agreed. Win at all cost now, even if the choice may not be in America best interest tomarrow.
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Come visit Hawaii sometime. lol. We have about 1.2 million people and although people get along, there is hardly agreement in the political arena. This is a one party state. Democrats have controlled this state nearly 50 years. We elected the first Republican governor in 40 years about 6 years ago. Her approval ratings have been very good (probably ranging between 60 and 70 percent), because she is outstanding, but I don't think she has come close to 80 percent. I also read that her approval rating was above 90 percent in 2007. That's remarkable.
Also, one of the commentators mentioned she was voted the most popular governor in the country by her peers.
She must be doing something right.
Sounds like you're proving my point in a way.
Your state has almost twice the populace and is about 10-20 points lower in approval... I bet as you get lower in population, you get higher approval numbers.
That would be an interesting chart to view.
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Sounds like you're proving my point in a way.
Your state has almost twice the populace and is about 10-20 points lower in approval... I bet as you get lower in population, you get higher approval numbers.
That would be an interesting chart to view.
It would be an interesting chart to view.
I doubt Cayetano (our last governor) was near 70 percent. He wasn't nearly as good. He had perpetual budget deficits. Governor Lingle had a billion dollar budget turnaround. She's just very good. That's why she is speaking at the Republican convention.
Maybe governors of smaller states get better approval ratings, but I've never seen any kind of study. I doubt there are many governors with 80 or 90 percent approval ratings. That's just off the charts. I think good executives get good ratings. That's what happened with Arnold: "At the end of May, 2004, the Field poll put his popularity at 65%, the highest for a California governor in 45 years, including 41% of Democrats, party adherents of his opposition." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_career_of_Arnold_Schwarzenegger
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how much of a maverick can you portray in the state of alaska? seriously. A governer in alaska is like the ultimate pawn. How many people are fighting for a serious gov;t position in alaska?
just my .02$
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It's still a risky call on the repubs part.
Although the decision by McCain has it's elements of brilliance to it, there is still an element of poor judgement in that, his "years" of experience are undermined by his running mate. undecided voters could take his age into account in that the possibility of him dying would mean a former mayor of a small town with little experience would become president.
lol Savage says McCain is throwing in the towel with that vp choice
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It's still a risky call on the repubs part.
Although the decision by McCain has it's elements of brilliance to it, there is still an element of poor judgement in that, his "years" of experience are undermined by his running mate. undecided voters could take his age into account in that the possibility of him dying would mean a former mayor of a small town with little experience would become president.
lol Savage says McCain is throwing in the towel with that vp choice
savage is from san fran, enough said
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savage is from san fran, enough said
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAAHAHH
He's constantly talking about that too. lol
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he's jewish right? talk about a double wammy lol
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It's still a risky call on the repubs part.
Although the decision by McCain has it's elements of brilliance to it, there is still an element of poor judgement in that, his "years" of experience are undermined by his running mate. undecided voters could take his age into account in that the possibility of him dying would mean a former mayor of a small town with little experience would become president.
lol Savage says McCain is throwing in the towel with that vp choice
I really don't see this as a high risk pick. I think if I had to draw up the ideal experience for a VP candidate, it would include city council, mayor, state leg, governor, and military experience. She has most of that experience.
There really cannot be a realistic criticism of Palin as VP without contrasting her experience with Obama's. If people have concerns about Palin's experience to be VP, then they should be very concerned about Obama's paper thin experience to president.
Savage?? lol . . . :)
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I really don't see this as a high risk pick. I think if I had to draw up the ideal experience for a VP candidate, it would include city council, mayor, state leg, governor, and military experience. She has most of that experience.
There really cannot be a realistic criticism of Palin as VP without contrasting her experience with Obama's. If people have concerns about Palin's experience to be VP, then they should be very concerned about Obama's paper thin experience to president.
Savage?? lol . . . :)
Savage? yeah i know...lol he is entertaining in while stuck traffic
You seem to see the positive side, of her being picked. Undeniable. But Obama's lack of experience doesn't factor as much in why it a can be a bad decision because of Mccain's age. And the fact she's an unknown with issues.
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Savage? yeah i know...lol he is entertaining in while stuck traffic
You seem to see the positive side, of her being picked. Undeniable. But Obama's lack of experience doesn't factor as much in why it a can be a bad decision because of Mccain's age. And the fact she's an unknown with issues.
I actually listened to him for a bit years back. I never thought he would live this long. :) Does he still get worked up every day?
I do like the pick. The McCain/Palin ticket is actually how a ticket should look: experienced guy out front, less experienced candidate in supporting role. Obama/Biden is upside down.
What issues does Palin have? She seems pretty bullet proof so far: married for 20 years, five kids, popular across the country, son going to Iraq, fought government corruption, and the kind of grassroots experience/perspective people in D.C. need. The more I read and hear about her the more I like her.
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The more I read and hear about her the more I like her.
So you admit that you had never heard of her before?
;D
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I actually listened to him for a bit years back. I never thought he would live this long. :) Does he still get worked up every day?
I do like the pick. The McCain/Palin ticket is actually how a ticket should look: experienced guy out front, less experienced candidate in supporting role. Obama/Biden is upside down.
What issues does Palin have? She seems pretty bullet proof so far: married for 20 years, five kids, popular across the country, son going to Iraq, fought government corruption, and the kind of grassroots experience/perspective people in D.C. need. The more I read and hear about her the more I like her.
I actually listened to Savage a couple times over the last month. I use to tune in a long ass time ago. His mode changed a lot since the last time I heard him. Before he was all about Bush and the neocons, now it seems he's in ass saving mode and hates Bush... LOL... uh yea...
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Excellent choice for McCain.
Recalling most voters are morons.
He will get all the bra burning femi nazis who are pissed over Hillary.
She is totally on the opposite side of what Hillary stands for.
Just because she is a woman doesn't automatically give her carte blanche because of her gender
Sandra
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Politically speaking...
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Will she even make it to November?
Was she just a strawman? Take the thunder away from the DNC, With so much on her plate.....
Could she withstand the shitstorm that is about to come her way? Of was this just political play to get Liberman on the Ticket....
One Heartbeat away....
Sandra
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Charlie Crist enjoys 60 percent job approval rating in FL.
In a state with 25% of construciton force laid off.
50% Repub, 50% dem.
Tourism in the tank.
Congress at 11%, yet people still say they love their guy.
in a state where 1/2 the state is against him, he scores 60%.
80% ain't that hard for a pretty lady in a small population place.
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240, its 80+% approval in THE STATE OF ALASKA. She has been gov for 2 yrs. The mayorship was between 1992-1996.
I'm sick of many of these lawyers turned federal politicians (particularly senators) with all their bullshit and corruption. Lets hear more from this amazing lady who is outside the normal crap federal politics.
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240, its 80+% approval in THE STATE OF ALASKA. She has been gov for 2 yrs. The mayorship was between 1992-1996.
Right. And I'm telling you that in a highly split state from the unpopular party, still holds 60% Governor approval rate easily IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
Her 80% is good, but nothing monumental with only 600k people living there...
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Lets hear more from this amazing lady who is outside the normal crap federal politics.
how objective!
::)
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Politically speaking...
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Will she even make it to November?
Was she just a strawman? Take the thunder away from the DNC, With so much on her plate.....
Could she withstand the shitstorm that is about to come her way? Of was this just political play to get Liberman on the Ticket....
One Heartbeat away....
Sandra
She won't recover...
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So you admit that you had never heard of her before?
;D
:)
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=223674.0
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I actually listened to Savage a couple times over the last month. I use to tune in a long ass time ago. His mode changed a lot since the last time I heard him. Before he was all about Bush and the neocons, now it seems he's in ass saving mode and hates Bush... LOL... uh yea...
I think the last time I listened to Savage, Clinton was in office. He was so angry and hate-filled it sounded like he was going to have a heart attack on pretty much every show.
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240, its 80+% approval in THE STATE OF ALASKA. She has been gov for 2 yrs. The mayorship was between 1992-1996.
I'm sick of many of these lawyers turned federal politicians (particularly senators) with all their bullshit and corruption. Lets hear more from this amazing lady who is outside the normal crap federal politics.
I agree.
Also, her aproval rating was apparently over 90 percent at one point.
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I just talked to a group of 60+ year old women and to a person, they thought Palin was shrill of voice...almost nagging. That's not a good thing for McCain.
She's a horrible choice for VP. It's either the McCain Camp's transparent pathetic attempt to sway the female vote b/c we all know that women vote for someone with a vagina or Big Mac has the hots for this goodlooking piece of wool.
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She is totally on the opposite side of what Hillary stands for.
Just because she is a woman doesn't automatically give her carte blanche because of her gender
Sandra
I agree, but you, I and all the other folks posting here on the politics board are "thinking" people who actually look at issues - regardless of what we think of them - we look and learn.
Many voters are not like us, they are just morons who catch 2 mins of CNN and vote from that.
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I caught just a bit of the shrill on CNN today but its tolerable. Same basic speech as yesterday, I wanted to hear more.
Thats unfortunate CQ, but very true. Its disturbing when people are so passionate (either way) and yet so clueless. At times, thats why I listen and make observations only because we get info through the media and after the spin. I was particularly cautious with the Georgia/Russia recent events...not sure we really got the whole story.
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She is totally on the opposite side of what Hillary stands for.
Just because she is a woman doesn't automatically give her carte blanche because of her gender
Sandra
No one said that it did. But, women are all over the political spectrum. They are NOT all liberals. Some are conservatives and some are in the middle.
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I think its good for the public to see a strong woman who is conservative and still a likeable person and a mother. I think there are a lot more women like that out there but the women who tend to be the most vocal are typically the far left liberals. I like that we are seeing the unexpected in this whole election year, breaking stereotypes all around and showing people that they don't have to follow a particular pattern or way of being.
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I think its good for the public to see a strong woman who is conservative and still a likeable person and a mother. I think there are a lot more women like that out there but the women who tend to be the most vocal are typically the far left liberals. I like that we are seeing the unexpected in this whole election year, breaking stereotypes all around and showing people that they don't have to follow a particular pattern or way of being.
My point exactly!!!!
A HUGE chunk of those evangelical voters are women, who probably feel that their voices aren't quite heard. Palin may seal the deal, as far as rallying these ladies (and their hubbies) behind McCain.
If you'd told ANYONE that McCain's VP pick would steal nearly all the thunder from the DNC and Obama's grand speech, you would have likely been laughed to scorn. But, this is a stunner.
When it comes to the social conservative issues, it appears McCain went for the sexy pick....LITERALLY and FIGURATIVELY!!!
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If mccain can get 3 in 100 women to change votes because they want a woman in the white house,
he will win.
Now, ask yourself. Are 3% of women that stupid and gullilble?
If the answer is yes, you now understand why he'd choose someone that gets him the job, not someone who is the most capable to DO the job. There were 100 republicans better prepared for this job. But this one will do the most to help him GET the job.
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:)
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=223674.0
You know what the best part is.. McCain had only met this chick ONCE before... (during the republican primaries), then he talked to her on the phone for 30 minutes a week ago and met her on Thursday... He doesn't know anything about her either, but he still picked her.
The stench of desperation is all over this thing.
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I caught just a bit of the shrill on CNN today but its tolerable. Same basic speech as yesterday, I wanted to hear more.
Thats unfortunate CQ, but very true. Its disturbing when people are so passionate (either way) and yet so clueless. At times, thats why I listen and make observations only because we get info through the media and after the spin. I was particularly cautious with the Georgia/Russia recent events...not sure we really got the whole story.
Yes, very much so. If people know the issues and feel strongly, well cool - but the people who talk sheer nonsense all enthused disturb me.
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You know what the best part is.. McCain had only met this chick ONCE before... (during the republican primaries), then he talked to her on the phone for 30 minutes a week ago and met her on Thursday... He doesn't know anything about her either, but he still picked her.
The stench of desperation is all over this thing.
exactly
good post
I personally think McCain really wanted to pick his pal Lieberman, but out of desperation picked this unqualified woman he barely knows thinking he can steal disgruntled Hillary supporters. I believe he has overestimated the number of Hillary zealots out there who have not already switched to Obama.
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You know what the best part is.. McCain had only met this chick ONCE before... (during the republican primaries), then he talked to her on the phone for 30 minutes a week ago and met her on Thursday... He doesn't know anything about her either, but he still picked her.
The stench of desperation is all over this thing.
Is this true?
Got any links to it?
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no link, but it's true. the only vetting was checking out that impeachment story, he sent his lawyers to see everything they had on her. One conversation. It was clear he wanted a pretty woman for his ticket. There are hundreds of republicans who are more qualified. She is a sales tool.
Is this true?
Got any links to it?
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Holly shit Benny, we are going to agree on something....
I think McCain wanted Liberman as well but knew it would probably cost him the election.
I don't see how Palin is a stupid choice...risky in some respects, yes, stupid, no. I am impressed with this woman so far.
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Holly shit Benny, we are going to agree on something....
I think McCain wanted Liberman as well but knew it would probably cost him the election.
I don't see how Palin is a stupid choice...risky in some respects, yes, stupid, no. I am impressed with this woman so far.
I think it's because she only has 18 months of meaningful experience as Governor, in which time she also got herself caught in a scandal.
She hasn't been vetted, but she will.
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The scandle is BS 240, lets drop that unless something of substance comes up.
I'm more impressed by her character, whole story and courage to stand up to corruption in her own party.
She's been in office since 1st week in Dec 2006, so its just shy of 2 yrs...which I agree is not a lot of time, but she's done some excellent things in her state within that period.
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The scandle is BS 240, lets drop that unless something of substance comes up.
I'm more impressed by her character, whole story and courage to stand up to corruption in her own party.
She's been in office since 1st week in Dec 2006, so its just shy of 2 yrs...which I agree is not a lot of time, but she's done some excellent things in her state within that period.
It's probably not impeachment-worthy, but it should be looked at.
Well all know if some dude wrongs your sister, you would like a little payback. If she used her posisition to somehow administer payback, even thru a proxy, it's a crime.
She shouldn't go to jail for it... but if/when she's in charge of the world as president - will she use 'payback'?
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Is this true?
Got any links to it?
I read it in the Wall Street Journal... It was in Friday's edition I believe. (It may have been their Saturday edition) but I didn't pay attention to the date on it.
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You know what the best part is.. McCain had only met this chick ONCE before... (during the republican primaries), then he talked to her on the phone for 30 minutes a week ago and met her on Thursday... He doesn't know anything about her either, but he still picked her.
The stench of desperation is all over this thing.
So you admit I have heard of her? :)
Not all that unusual. I'm sure she was vetted, so McCain probably knew more about her than her husband did.
Reagan didn't even like Bush Sr. and put him on the ticket because he thought Bush would help him win.
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So you admit I have heard of her? :)
Not all that unusual. I'm sure she was vetted, so McCain probably knew more about her than her husband did.
haha
Please. They have five kids. :D
Reagan didn't even like Bush Sr. and put him on the ticket because he thought Bush would help him win.
Yes, but Bush had the resume to be president on day one. He almost had to be, as Reagan was shot in '81. This broad ain't ready.
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So you admit I have heard of her? :)
Not all that unusual. I'm sure she was vetted, so McCain probably knew more about her than her husband did.
Reagan didn't even like Bush Sr. and put him on the ticket because he thought Bush would help him win.
Yes, I admit you read about her name once... That's about it.
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Yes, I admit you read about her name once... That's about it.
O.K. ::)
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O.K. ::)
You're saying you knew more about her than McCain?
Who nominated her for VP... While only meeting with her once during the Republican Primaries and talking to her on the phone for a 1/2 an hour?
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You're saying you knew more about her than McCain?
Who nominated her for VP... While only meeting with her once during the Republican Primaries and talking to her on the phone for a 1/2 an hour?
I'm saying when you said I had never heard of her, you didn't know what you were talking about. Although I shouldn't have even engaged you on that point (because it's sort of silly to tell someone you don't know who they have heard of or not), I nevertheless provided you with a link to a story I posted that talked about Palin. I could provide another, but I'm not wasting my time trying to convince you what I knew and didn't know. It's that important. I'm sure you don't care. I don't.
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I'm saying when you said I had never heard of her, you didn't know what you were talking about. Although I shouldn't have even engaged you on that point (because it's sort of silly to tell someone you don't know who they have heard of or not), I nevertheless provided you with a link to a story I posted that talked about Palin. I could provide another, but I'm not wasting my time trying to convince you what I knew and didn't know. It's that important. I'm sure you don't care. I don't.
You're correct... I am being antagonistic.
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You're correct... I am being antagonistic.
I know. I do it all the time. :)