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Title: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Army of One on August 29, 2008, 01:01:50 PM
All the news in UK is about Obama, I dont think anyone here even knows who Mccain is, without being bothered to read through, does it look like he will be the one in The Whitehouse?
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: ManBearPig... on August 29, 2008, 01:03:43 PM
the world would love obama to be president. (white) people with jobs in america wouldnt.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Jeffro on August 29, 2008, 01:21:56 PM
I for sure, would not like it.
Im not really sure why Ron would approve this gimmick. ???
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Moosejay on August 29, 2008, 02:28:10 PM
All the news in UK is about Obama, I dont think anyone here even knows who Mccain is, without being bothered to read through, does it look like he will be the one in The Whitehouse?

Oh, shit

You are not American.

No wonder you are clueless and a social bore.

Now I can rest easy. It is explained.

And no.

You may not assume shit about us.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: SuperNatural on August 29, 2008, 02:47:34 PM
All the news in UK is about Obama, I dont think anyone here even knows who Mccain is, without being bothered to read through, does it look like he will be the one in The Whitehouse?

It's no gurantee.  Give them a few presidential debates and maybe some mud slinging and then maybe it will be more apparent who will be president.  Right now McCain has lots of work to catch up, but the Republican party is extremely good at winning elections.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Monster81 on August 29, 2008, 02:47:47 PM
not american as well, but i would lov to see Obama win this shit and be the president
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: SuperNatural on August 29, 2008, 02:49:51 PM
Just curious, why do you guys care?  Most Americans couldn't name one single leader from another country.  That doesn't speak much about America, of course.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Ursus on August 29, 2008, 02:51:26 PM
Its all over the news here.

I only know McCain from getbig to be perfectly honest.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: kcballer on August 29, 2008, 02:55:33 PM
Just curious, why do you guys care?  Most Americans couldn't name one single leader from another country.  That doesn't speak much about America, of course.

Because they want to know if there are going to be any more fu*k ups (iraq, sub prime etc) that effect global commodity prices and depending on who is voted in, it puts a realistic clock on when China and eastern countries become the super powers and America fades back to nothing more than a nuclear capable country with a decent economy a la UK, France, Russia etc. If it's McCain it'll be sooner than if it's Obama. 
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: nicky.smth on August 29, 2008, 02:56:12 PM
Oh, shit

You are not American.

No wonder you are clueless and a social bore.

Now I can rest easy. It is explained.

And no.

You may not assume shit about us.

What an insensitive "Bloody" kunt you are..DB is just giving us his insight as to what he sees in the UK...

Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: kcballer on August 29, 2008, 03:02:45 PM
What an insensitive "Bloody" kunt you are..DB is just giving us his insight as to what he sees in the UK...



Who cares what moosefag says.  He's an irrelevant closet homosexual hiding it so he can be accepted by other republicans.  The guy went to a 'bodybuilding' camp as a kid i mean seriously.  I'm shocked he's not a priest. 
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: nicky.smth on August 29, 2008, 03:07:23 PM
Who cares what moosefag says.  He's an irrelevant closet homosexual hiding it so he can be accepted by other republicans.  The guy went to a 'bodybuilding' camp as a kid i mean seriously.  I'm shocked he's not a priest. 


I agree ;D
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: gymguy on August 29, 2008, 03:12:50 PM
No.  I live in Miami, and don't know of one person who says he/she will vote for Obama.  That should tell you something.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Army of One on August 29, 2008, 03:13:08 PM
Oh, shit

You are not American.

No wonder you are clueless and a social bore.

Now I can rest easy. It is explained.

And no.

You may not assume shit about us.

HAHA, says the man who has a moustache, is in his 40's and never married, no girlfriend, has posted about 60 posts a day in the last 4 months, pays his teen twink nephew money so he can watch him train and pose for him, has no life so seeks acceptance online by spamming his photo 10339 times a day of greater days past, whose posts depresses every man ,woman and and child who read them, so yes I can assume ALOT about YOU.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Cardfan on August 29, 2008, 03:17:20 PM
HAHA, says the man who has a moustache, is in his 40's and never married, no girlfriend, has posted about 60 posts a day in the last 4 months, pays his teen twink nephew money so he can watch him train and pose for him, has no life so seeks acceptance online by spamming his photo 10339 times a day of greater days past, whose posts depresses every man ,woman and and child who read them, so yes I can assume ALOT about YOU.
personal attack ::) stick to the issues. Got a retort or is this yet another example of liberal tatics?
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Army of One on August 29, 2008, 03:19:06 PM
personal attack ::) stick to the issues. Got a retort or is this yet another example of liberal tatics?

Hi Moosejay gimmick, you drew first blood  ;D
(http://www.premiere.fr/var/premiere/storage/images/cinema/photos/diaporama/images/rambo-ii-la-mission-rambo-first-blood-part-ii-1984__6/6005974-1-fre-FR/rambo_ii_la_mission_rambo_first_blood_part_ii_1984_reference.jpg)
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Cardfan on August 29, 2008, 03:22:10 PM
Lol! I ain't MJ dumbass. I just think you oughta step up. Don't be scared.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Army of One on August 29, 2008, 03:23:54 PM
Lol! I ain't MJ dumbass. I just think you oughta step up. Don't be scared.

Dont be scared Moosegay, dual personalities isn't an attractive character trait, your nephew might not suck your dick if he finds out.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Ursus on August 29, 2008, 03:26:09 PM
It is cool to be patriotic etc love your country

Though people who piss their pants at the slightets criticism or inquiry about an issue if fucking insane. Screw your fucking dick back on
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Cardfan on August 29, 2008, 03:27:18 PM
OMG! personal attack + calling gimmik = tired and lazy.  Get with it numbnut. I am not MJ. Never met him. I'd simply like you to respond to his post, ya mental midget.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on August 29, 2008, 03:28:07 PM
Oh, shit

You are not American.

No wonder you are clueless and a social bore.

Now I can rest easy. It is explained.

And no.

You may not assume shit about us.

Thought u were a decent guy, guess i was wrong
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: ibfasport on August 29, 2008, 03:44:11 PM
hope osama will ot win
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Army of One on August 29, 2008, 03:44:32 PM
OMG! personal attack + calling gimmik = tired and lazy.  Get with it numbnut. I am not MJ. Never met him. I'd simply like you to respond to his post, ya mental midget.

Exactly how can it be responded to?Has there been a scientific study that has proven or disproven any other countries citizens apart from USA are clueless and social bores?His specific post needed no response to the claims as they were clearly the ramblings of an unintelligent man.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Zaphod on August 29, 2008, 03:47:25 PM
All the news in UK is about Obama, I dont think anyone here even knows who Mccain is, without being bothered to read through, does it look like he will be the one in The Whitehouse?

  ;)

(http://talkingpointsmemo.com/images/palin-muck.jpg)
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Cardfan on August 29, 2008, 03:48:30 PM
I disagree. His point was that the opinions of other citizens of other countries have no bearing and should be disregarded. You seem to have another view point but have chosen to attack Moose instead of voicing it. How do you feel about people of other countries telling us how they feel?
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Army of One on August 29, 2008, 03:55:57 PM
I disagree. His point was that the opinions of other citizens of other countries have no bearing and should be disregarded. You seem to have another view point but have chosen to attack Moose instead of voicing it. How do you feel about people of other countries telling us how they feel?


Did you ever do a reading and comprehension class at school?
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Cardfan on August 29, 2008, 04:00:27 PM
Did you ever do a reading and comprehension class at school?
graduated top of my class ;D Stick to the subject please.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Army of One on August 29, 2008, 04:05:16 PM
Care to explain how Moose's post was not an attack and was just about his view that the opinions of other citizens of other countries have no bearing and should be disregarded?Graduating top of the shortbus class doesnt cut it  ;D

I disagree. His point was that the opinions of other citizens of other countries have no bearing and should be disregarded. You seem to have another view point but have chosen to attack Moose instead of voicing it. How do you feel about people of other countries telling us how they feel?


Oh, shit

You are not American.


No wonder you are clueless and a social bore.

Now I can rest easy. It is explained.

And no.

You may not assume shit about us.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Voice of Doom on August 29, 2008, 04:15:03 PM
answer to your original question is yes



and




yes


It's hard for the bigots here to deal with but don't worry Europe th U.S is gradually entering the 21st century  :D
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Cardfan on August 29, 2008, 04:16:36 PM
Trust me I went to better schools than you. MJ may have offended you, but the fact remains that anyone that is not a Citizen of our country has no voice in this.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Army of One on August 29, 2008, 04:19:14 PM
Trust me I went to better schools than you. MJ may have offended you, but the fact remains that anyone that is not a Citizen of our country has no voice in this.

Really?I was under the impression people in the UK could vote for your next president and if they couldnt they had business taking interest in your  nations Government  ::)
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Moosejay on August 29, 2008, 04:25:59 PM
Just curious, why do you guys care?  Most Americans couldn't name one single leader from another country.  That doesn't speak much about America, of course.

You are right.

To me, the rest of the world does not matter much.

Honest.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Moosejay on August 29, 2008, 04:28:17 PM
HAHA, says the man who has a moustache, is in his 40's and never married, no girlfriend, has posted about 60 posts a day in the last 4 months, pays his teen twink nephew money so he can watch him train and pose for him, has no life so seeks acceptance online by spamming his photo 10339 times a day of greater days past, whose posts depresses every man ,woman and and child who read them, so yes I can assume ALOT about YOU.

Yes.

You can ASSUME that I'd much rather talk aboiut what I have ALREADY done
'
as opposed to what I am going to say that I MAY do

Like you

faceless, nameless loser
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: QuakerOats on August 29, 2008, 04:30:38 PM
Yes.

You can ASSUME that I'd much rather talk aboiut what I have ALREADY done
'
as opposed to what I am going to say that I MAY do

Like you

faceless, nameless loser
you better watch out Moose or "db" will post the picture of the competitive bodybuilder that he stole off the internet and claim it's him, aren't you terrified? ::)
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Moosejay on August 29, 2008, 04:30:50 PM
Lol! I ain't MJ dumbass. I just think you oughta step up. Don't be scared.

Are you kidding?

I am a known entity here. Published author, businessman.....anyone can come visit me.

This pussy, like so many here, have nothing of accomplishment, so they hide.

Tough thing to do.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Voice of Doom on August 29, 2008, 04:31:33 PM
You are right.

To me, the rest of the world does not matter much.

Honest.


and this quote right here demonstrates that the democratic idea of one man/one vote really is a "tyranny of the mediocre" - Wilde

sigh :-\


Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Moosejay on August 29, 2008, 04:31:47 PM
I disagree. His point was that the opinions of other citizens of other countries have no bearing and should be disregarded. You seem to have another view point but have chosen to attack Moose instead of voicing it. How do you feel about people of other countries telling us how they feel?


You are correct, Cardfan.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Cardfan on August 29, 2008, 04:34:48 PM
Really?I was under the impression people in the UK could vote for your next president and if they couldnt they had business taking interest in your  nations Government  ::)
Not really sure what your impressions are. You still refuse to respond to the issue.

Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Moosejay on August 29, 2008, 04:34:48 PM
you better watch out Moose or "db" will post the picture of the competitive bodybuilder that he stole off the internet and claim it's him, aren't you terrified? ::)

Bah.

That is what I say about him and his perverted avatar.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: divcom on August 29, 2008, 04:35:20 PM
All the news in UK is about Obama, I dont think anyone here even knows who Mccain is, without being bothered to read through, does it look like he will be the one in The Whitehouse?

We still havent mastered the lang you created.  Now...we are going to hit new lows by putting a man in office who supports Bush 90% over the last 8 yrs, thinks $4M yrly in middle-class, cant remember how many homes he owns, says $5 a gallon at the pump is ok, and American are crying pu$$ies behind the doors.  But we'll put him in office for a trophy x-beauty queen, playboy mate chick who will have no part of cabinet decision making.  You can count on that.  Looking forward to relocating possibly to the UK when my education is done.  Does Soul II Soul still have that club "Jazzy Bs?" in East London?        
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Moosejay on August 29, 2008, 04:35:35 PM

and this quote right here demonstrates that the democratic idea of one man/one vote really is a "tyranny of the mediocre" - Wilde

sigh :-\




Regarding our elections, I meant.

"Wilde" my ass.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Moosejay on August 29, 2008, 04:37:33 PM
We still havent mastered the lang you created.  Now...we are going to hit new lows by putting a man in office who supports Bush 90% over the last 8 yrs, thinks $4M yrly in middle-class, cant remember how many homes he owns, says $5 a gallon at the pump is ok, and American are crying pu$$ies behind the doors.  But we'll put him in office for a trophy x-beauty queen, playboy mate chick who will have no part of cabinet decision making.  You can count on that.  Looking forward to relocating possibly to the UK when my education is done.  Does Soul II Soul still have that club "Jazzy Bs?" in East London?        

I can't believe how much y'all let a bunch of folks in Washington rule your lives.

Govern yourselves.

That's the only way to really be free.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: bigdumbbell on August 29, 2008, 04:38:30 PM
yes
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: divcom on August 29, 2008, 04:39:25 PM
I can't believe how much y'all let a bunch of folks in Washington rule your lives.

Govern yourselves.

That's the only way to really be free.

Thanks.  Where do you park your car?  Leave a straw so I can suck the gas out in the next 4 yrs.  $5 at the pump jacks with my school.  Sorry bud...I dont see $4M in my bank anytime soon.  Thanks again.  
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Moosejay on August 29, 2008, 04:41:24 PM
Thanks.  Where do you park your car?  Leave a straw so I can suck the gas out in the next 4 yrs.  $5 at the pump jacks with my schools.  Thanks again.  

I ride my Segway around town to save gas. Only use car for longer trips and winter, when I am not sick, that is.

You will need to hose to commit the crime  of siphoning. Dunno about a straw, dude.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: divcom on August 29, 2008, 04:44:11 PM
I ride my Segway around town to save gas. Only use car for longer trips and winter, when I am not sick, that is.

You will need to hose to commit the crime  of siphoning. Dunno about a straw, dude.

The economy will require people to more creative than the last 8yrs once McCain hits office with his MILF.   Even Bush isnt as out of touch as this guy.  Thanks again.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Moosejay on August 29, 2008, 04:45:42 PM
The economy will require people to more creative than the last 8yrs once McCain hits office with his MILF.   Even Bush isnt as out of touch as this guy.  Thanks again.

It really does not matter.

Hope this helps all you fellows here.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: nicky.smth on August 29, 2008, 05:13:19 PM
Are you kidding?

I am a known entity here. Published author, businessman.....anyone can come visit me.

This pussy, like so many here, have nothing of accomplishment, so they hide.

Tough thing to do.


What do you have that was published?  I need a laugh right about now...
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 29, 2008, 05:16:11 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Cardfan on August 29, 2008, 05:17:28 PM
;)
Uppercut from McCain. LOL!
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Moosejay on August 29, 2008, 05:18:27 PM

What do you have that was published?  I need a laugh right about now...

All you gotta do is google me.

Then you will get this feeling of


"Shit, I have done very little with my life...

But, It may not be too late for you....even tho you are a foreigner.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: nicky.smth on August 29, 2008, 05:19:49 PM
http://www.fitnessatlantic.com/michael_dusa.htm


Is that what you are talking about moosejay
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: nicky.smth on August 29, 2008, 05:20:58 PM
All you gotta do is google me.

Then you will get this feeling of


"Shit, I have done very little with my life...

But, It may not be too late for you....even tho you are a foreigner.

Actually I'm American...My parents are Italian and Portuguese/spanish..
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Camel Jockey on August 29, 2008, 05:23:12 PM
  ;)

(http://talkingpointsmemo.com/images/palin-muck.jpg)

She is nice for a 40 year old

Imagine being a 70 something year old McCain and hitting that in teh Oval office with no rubber and hard as fuck on viagra  ;D
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on August 29, 2008, 05:30:16 PM
All you gotta do is google me.

Then you will get this feeling of


"Shit, I have done very little with my life...

But, It may not be too late for you....even tho you are a foreigner.

you really are a bigot arent u Moosejay
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: nicky.smth on August 29, 2008, 05:34:43 PM
you really are a bigot arent u Moosejay

It's sad..he claims that he lives for helping people...However, he's full of hate...he's incapable of loving anyone but himself...

So moose where is the link for the stuff that you have published?
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: divcom on August 29, 2008, 05:41:59 PM
It really does not matter.

Hope this helps all you fellows here.

No.  I'm just having fun posting nonsense.  Where's Blockhead?  Must be in jail.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Zaphod on August 29, 2008, 05:45:15 PM
She is nice for a 40 year old

Imagine being a 70 something year old McCain and hitting that in teh Oval office with no rubber and hard as fuck on viagra  ;D

That made me laugh, lol
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on August 29, 2008, 05:51:01 PM
(Anyone but) McCain 2008!
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: leon on August 29, 2008, 07:48:28 PM
To address the question; your assumption (sadly) greatly underestimates the intansigence of American racism
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: muscleforlife on August 29, 2008, 10:46:36 PM

\

just remember....
whatever ticket gets elected....
The VP is one heartbeat away from running the most powerful nation on earth.

Palin
Biden

Who do you want dealing with foreign heads of state?
Answering that call when another attack on American soil occurs?
One heartbeat away.


Sandra
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Benny B on August 29, 2008, 10:59:30 PM
\

just remember....
whatever ticket gets elected....
The VP is one heartbeat away from running the most powerful nation on earth.

Palin
Biden

Who do you want dealing with foreign heads of state?
Answering that call when another attack on American soil occurs?
One heartbeat away.


Sandra
Yes, that is why the Palin pick was an irresponsible one. Poor judgment by 72 year old McCain.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Tapeworm on August 29, 2008, 11:11:50 PM
To address the question; your assumption (sadly) greatly underestimates the intansigence of American racism

This word Leo?  ??? 

Anyone else?  Anyone?  Anyone?
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: calfzilla on August 29, 2008, 11:16:36 PM
We shouldn't call Moosejay a racist or bigot.  It was guys like him that made this country the great success it is today.  He should be a role model for us all. 

Now as far as Obama being president.  He's not going to do as well as the polls indicate because there are a lot of white people (some who even support him) who when they get in the voting booth will not be able to vote for a black president. 

Next president of the United States...John McCain. 
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Tapeworm on August 29, 2008, 11:18:59 PM
We shouldn't call Moosejay a racist or bigot.  It was guys like him that made this country the great success it is today.  He should be a role model for us all. 

Now as far as Obama being president.  He's not going to do as well as the polls indicate because there are a lot of white people (some who even support him) who when they get in the voting booth will not be able to vote for a black president. 

Next president of the United States...John McCain. 

Your intansigence is baffling.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Tapeworm on August 29, 2008, 11:23:59 PM
Well I'll be damned, it's actually a word. 

Spank my ass and call me flotsam.  :-[
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: calfzilla on August 29, 2008, 11:24:17 PM
What is intansigence? 
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Tapeworm on August 29, 2008, 11:25:06 PM
What is intansigence? 

I'm still a little up in the air on that.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: calfzilla on August 29, 2008, 11:25:57 PM
Pretty sure it's not a word.  I just checked the thesaurus.  Not in there.   
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Tapeworm on August 30, 2008, 12:00:12 AM
Pretty sure it's not a word.  I just checked the thesaurus.  Not in there.   

I can't find a definition either, but it googles.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: webcake on August 30, 2008, 12:04:22 AM
What is intansigence? 

Intransigence...
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Tapeworm on August 30, 2008, 12:12:04 AM
Intransigence...

Not according to leo.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: webcake on August 30, 2008, 12:13:51 AM
Not according to leo.

Leon = teh stupid
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Tapeworm on August 30, 2008, 12:19:13 AM
Leon = teh stupid

Leon is a hero of The People.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: webcake on August 30, 2008, 12:30:59 AM
Leon is a hero of The People.

Who is Leo?
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Tapeworm on August 30, 2008, 12:36:28 AM
Who is Leo?

This is His moniker among The People, brother.  He doesn't insist on formality amongst His warriors in The Cause.  And he hands out ice cream on Sundays.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: webcake on August 30, 2008, 12:40:15 AM
This is His moniker among The People, brother.  He doesn't insist on formality amongst His warriors in The Cause.  And he hands out ice cream on Sundays.

Oh ok...
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Tapeworm on August 30, 2008, 12:47:03 AM
High carb lunch gone to me head.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Moosejay on August 30, 2008, 07:06:06 AM
We shouldn't call Moosejay a racist or bigot.  It was guys like him that made this country the great success it is today.  He should be a role model for us all. 

Now as far as Obama being president.  He's not going to do as well as the polls indicate because there are a lot of white people (some who even support him) who when they get in the voting booth will not be able to vote for a black president. 

Next president of the United States...John McCain. 

Thanks for the props.

I am not a racist or a bigot.

Not even close.

I think the guys who spout off this pap just don't want to argue honestly.

I just am not, will not, and never, ever will be politically correct.

If you guys can't be honest with yourself and admit the PC is destroying (But, it will, ultimately, NOT be destroyed) this country, then let me introduce you to Santa.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Moosejay on August 30, 2008, 07:07:01 AM
Well I'll be damned, it's actually a word. 

Spank my ass and call me flotsam.  :-[

Intransigence, I think.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Moosejay on August 30, 2008, 07:09:34 AM
answer to your original question is yes



and




yes


It's hard for the bigots here to deal with but don't worry Europe th U.S is gradually entering the 21st century  :D

Care to explain how we have outpaced the world in only 232 years of official existence?

I am asking honestly....it baffles me, too.

Its true, we must have taken the best people from all the other countries, and amalgamated them through procreation into the best and the brightest the world has to offer.

So, foreign countries, we do thank and salute you.
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Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Benny B on August 30, 2008, 09:52:30 AM
Care to explain how we have outpaced the world in only 232 years of official existence?

I am asking honestly....it baffles me, too.

Its true, we must have taken the best people from all the other countries, and amalgamated them through procreation into the best and the brightest the world has to offer.

So, foreign countries, we do thank and salute you.
idiot
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Moosejay on August 30, 2008, 10:09:31 AM
idiot

I don't mind you calling me idiot...that's your right


or, maybe in your country, it is NOT you right

either way

You did not answer the question, or agree or disagree intelligently
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Benny B on August 30, 2008, 10:23:17 AM
I don't mind you calling me idiot...that's your right


or, maybe in your country, it is NOT you right

either way

You did not answer the question, or agree or disagree intelligently
I said what is necessary, idiot.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: dario73 on August 30, 2008, 10:24:10 AM
Because they want to know if there are going to be any more fu*k ups (iraq, sub prime etc) that effect global commodity prices and depending on who is voted in, it puts a realistic clock on when China and eastern countries become the super powers and America fades back to nothing more than a nuclear capable country with a decent economy a la UK, France, Russia etc. If it's McCain it'll be sooner than if it's Obama. 

Based on all estimates, USA is still expected to be #1 superpower for another 60 years. By that time, I will be dead, so I don't care.

Catching up to the USA simply because a nation has nearly 8 times the population or because a group of nations make their own little gang, i.e. European Union, is not much of an accomplishment.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: dario73 on August 30, 2008, 10:26:40 AM
Oh. Back to the topic. McCain will win.

Obama can only do one thing well. Speeches. Nothing else.  I can see why Europe would be enamored with him. They also like to talk alot. 
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Benny B on August 30, 2008, 10:28:34 AM
Oh. Back to the topic. McCain will win.

Obama can only do one thing well. Speeches. Nothing else.  I can see why Europe would be enamored with him. They also like to talk alot. 
Insightful analysis!  ::)
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Mars on August 30, 2008, 10:40:05 AM
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: MCWAY on August 30, 2008, 12:35:33 PM
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just remember....
whatever ticket gets elected....
The VP is one heartbeat away from running the most powerful nation on earth.

Palin
Biden

Who do you want dealing with foreign heads of state?
Answering that call when another attack on American soil occurs?
One heartbeat away.


Sandra

Hmmmm....I'll take a govenor who wants to win wars, instead of a senator who wants to "end wars responsibly" (a cushy euphemism for quitting).

Or, someone who has run a government (albeit on a much smaller scale) vs. someone who has not.

Besides, if Biden is so much more experienced and wise with regards to this issue, why isn't he on the TOP of the Democratic ticket?
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: MCWAY on August 30, 2008, 12:36:19 PM
All the news in UK is about Obama, I dont think anyone here even knows who Mccain is, without being bothered to read through, does it look like he will be the one in The Whitehouse?

Keep in mind, the news in the UK thought Kerry was going to win it back in 2004. Enough said.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Moosejay on August 30, 2008, 12:43:04 PM
\

just remember....
whatever ticket gets elected....
The VP is one heartbeat away from running the most powerful nation on earth.

Palin
Biden

Who do you want dealing with foreign heads of state?
Answering that call when another attack on American soil occurs?
One heartbeat away.


Sandra

How long before O's campaign starts up with the "If old McCain croaks, we will have an inexperienced mom of 5 running the show, blah blah....."

In a thinly veiled way in the least
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Benny B on August 30, 2008, 01:00:27 PM
Hmmmm....I'll take a govenor who wants to win wars, instead of a senator who wants to "end wars responsibly" (a cushy euphemism for quitting).

Or, someone who has run a government (albeit on a much smaller scale) vs. someone who has not.

Besides, if Biden is so much more experienced and wise with regards to this issue, why isn't he on the TOP of the Democratic ticket?
Chaney was vastly more experienced in Washington than Bush, yet I'm sure your dumb ass voted for the Bush-Chaney ticket with Bush at the top of the ticket.  ;)
You are a simpleton.



Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: MCWAY on August 30, 2008, 01:19:37 PM
Chaney was vastly more experienced in Washington than Bush, yet I'm sure your dumb ass voted for the Bush-Chaney ticket with Bush at the top of the ticket.  ;)
You are a simpleton.


I'm not the one blubbering about how important experience is....and neither were the Democrats....UNTIL Palin entered the picture.

And, I'm sure you voted for the guy that Bush BEAT for the presidency. It's funny how these "brilliant" liberals keep putting up candidates that couldn't defeat "W".

And, despite the deck being stacked in his favor, Obama may choke away this chance for the Dems in 2008.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Benny B on August 30, 2008, 01:48:24 PM
I'm not the one blubbering about how important experience is....and neither were the Democrats....UNTIL Palin entered the picture.
Yes, but your fellow repubes have been using that attack out of desperation for some time now. The fact that this woman has no foreign policy experience, and two years ago was a mayor of a tiny town in Alaska is something that needs to be mentioned if she is to be a heartbeat away from being the leader of the free world.

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And, I'm sure you voted for the guy that Bush BEAT for the presidency. It's funny how these "brilliant" liberals keep putting up candidates that couldn't defeat "W".
I did indeed. And I take pride in not voting for the moron that will go down in history as an absolute disaster with the worst approval ratings EVER. I realize many Americans are dumb and don't vote their own best interests, so sometimes my candidate will lose.

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And, despite the deck being stacked in his favor, Obama may choke away this chance for the Dems in 2008.
We'll know that after the election, buddy.  ;) He has his ethnicity to overcome, and many won't vote for him regardless of his superior intelligence and the failed policies of the last four years that McCain wants to continue. Neither you or I can predict the future.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: MCWAY on August 30, 2008, 02:04:56 PM
Yes, but your fellow repubes have been using that attack out of desperation for some time now. The fact that this woman has no foreign policy experience, and two years ago was a mayor of a tiny town in Alaska is something that needs to be mentioned if she is to be a heartbeat away from being the leader of the free world.

Yet, you're using that "attack" now, since Palin just snatched your spotlight.

That someone has more executive experience than the guy HEADLINING your ticket. So, if experience doesn't matter (as the Dems, Bill Clinton in particular, claimed at the DNC), the Dems shouldn't be yakking about it now, espeically as it applies to the #2 of the GOP, NOT the #1.


I did indeed. And I take pride in not voting for the moron that will go down in history as an absolute disaster with the worst approval ratings EVER. I realize many Americans are dumb and don't vote their own best interests, so sometimes my candidate will lose.

A "moron" to whom your guys lost.....TWICE!!! What does that say about the Dems, if they can't find someone who can be this "moron"? And, what does it REALLY say about them, if Obama squandered this opportunity and loses this election.

And in a classic case of pot-calling-the-kettle-black, you might want to remember that the Democratic-controlled Congress has an approval rate of NINE (9) percent, three times LOWER than that of this "moron" President Bush. And that in less than two years.


We'll know that after the election, buddy.  ;) He has his ethnicity to overcome, and many won't vote for him regardless of his superior intelligence and the failed policies of the last four years that McCain wants to continue. Neither you or I can predict the future.

Indeed, we will know. But, one think I can predict is the excuse you and the other liberals will produce (or reproduce), if Obama doesn't get the job done. Let's see:

2000 - "We wuz robbed"
2004 - We got "swiftboated"/It's them mean, dumb ol' Christians' fault
2008 - (If Obama loses) All of the above....and more
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Benny B on August 30, 2008, 02:45:34 PM
Yet, you're using that "attack" now, since Palin just snatched your spotlight.
The spotlight would move away from the dems soon anyway, idiot. The RNC is about to start. The "attack" as you call it is FACT, so of course it will be presented.

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That someone has more executive experience than the guy HEADLINING your ticket. So, if experience doesn't matter (as the Dems, Bill Clinton in particular, claimed at the DNC), the Dems shouldn't be yakking about it now, espeically as it applies to the #2 of the GOP, NOT the #1.
If you think her year in one-half as governor of Alaska makes her a more a great vp choice, God bless you. The guy headlining the dems ticket has a Harvard Law degree, a seat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and 18+ million votes that show how many believe in his ability to be president. And apparently you still  fail to recognize that the VP has to be just as ready to be president as the presidential nominee. You're confident Palin could run this country if McCain became ill two days into office? 18 MILLION think Obama can, and that number is growing exponentially.  ;)


Quote
A "moron" to whom your guys lost.....TWICE!!! What does that say about the Dems, if they can't find someone who can be this "moron"? And, what does it REALLY say about them, if Obama squandered this opportunity and loses this election.
LOL!
You are apparently proud of the fact you voted for the idiot currently in office, when you should be hanging your head in shame. What it tells me is what I always knew...never underestimate the stupidity of the American public. This time around we have racism to add into the mix, something America has never learned to fully get past. If Obama loses it will be due to "not so bright" gentlemen such as yourself who would put McBush in Office for four more years of the same shit.

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And in a classic case of pot-calling-the-kettle-black, you might want to remember that the Democratic-controlled Congress has an approval rate of NINE (9) percent, three times LOWER than that of this "moron" President Bush. And that in less than two years.
Primarily due to the inability to get us out of Iraq, which is the main reason for the electoral success of the dems in the '06 elections. That will change with a veto and filibuster-proof democrat majority. Something that is looking quite possible with many senate seats up for grabs in November. Your boy "Dubya" does not allow the senate to pass key legislation.

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Indeed, we will know. But, one think I can predict is the excuse you and the other liberals will produce (or reproduce), if Obama doesn't get the job done. Let's see:

2000 - "We wuz robbed"
2004 - We got "swiftboated"/It's them mean, dumb ol' Christians' fault
2008 - (If Obama loses) All of the above....and more
And if Obama wins you'll have no FACTUAL excuse at all...you will have just gotten your asses kicked by a charismatic senator who will be the first black president of the United States.  ;D
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Cardfan on August 30, 2008, 10:26:25 PM
The spotlight would move away from the dems soon anyway, idiot. The RNC is about to start. The "attack" as you call it is FACT, so of course it will be presented.
If you think her year in one-half as governor of Alaska makes her a more a great vp choice, God bless you. The guy headlining the dems ticket has a Harvard Law degree, a seat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and 18+ million votes that show how many believe in his ability to be president. And apparently you still  fail to recognize that the VP has to be just as ready to be president as the presidential nominee. You're confident Palin could run this country if McCain became ill two days into office? 18 MILLION think Obama can, and that number is growing exponentially.  ;)

LOL!

You should take a math course. Exactly how many registered voters do you think there are in this country?

Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: kawaks on August 31, 2008, 12:35:39 AM

And if Obama wins you'll have no FACTUAL excuse at all...you will have just gotten your asses kicked by a charismatic senator who will be the first black president of the United States.  ;D

Well only if USA has un-racified itself to accept a black man running the country. I dunno if he will be "accepted" in a predominantly white country settled by white folks.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: calfzilla on August 31, 2008, 12:42:49 AM
If Obama is elected president I don't think it will be as much of a "step forward" as people might think. 
Because he is only half black, very charismatic, and because of his age and personality appeals to a lot of young people. 

I will be impressed when we nominate a completely black president who is older and not so charismatic.  Then and only then will I concede that America has come a long way in terms of racism. 


















Sarah Palin is hot...vote republican. 
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: jetpower on August 31, 2008, 01:21:10 AM
  ;)

(http://talkingpointsmemo.com/images/palin-muck.jpg)
She's all for drilling in Alaska. That got my vote.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: JimmyThomson on August 31, 2008, 01:59:54 AM
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Then you will get this feeling of


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Well I googled you and your name brings up plenty of gay connections.

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Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: freespirit on August 31, 2008, 02:07:30 AM
It doesn't matter who wins the fucking elections, they're both just puppets on a string. The illuminati have their own agenda.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: io856 on August 31, 2008, 02:15:14 AM
It doesn't matter who wins the fucking elections, they're both just puppets on a string. The illuminati have their own agenda.
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Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: freespirit on August 31, 2008, 03:33:15 AM
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I would return that "prize" to you, kid. It appears to me that you are at the very bottom of the food chain. Do not waist my time with your ignorance, and your pathetic lack of wit.    ;)
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: freespirit on August 31, 2008, 03:34:04 AM
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Mars on August 31, 2008, 03:36:34 AM
It doesn't matter who wins the fucking elections, they're both just puppets on a string. The illuminati have their own agenda.

exactly
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Get Rowdy on August 31, 2008, 04:15:38 AM
It doesn't matter who wins the fucking elections, they're both just puppets on a string. The illuminati have their own agenda.

Damn straight.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: WillGrant on August 31, 2008, 05:05:34 AM
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Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Luv2Hurt on August 31, 2008, 05:24:17 AM
Yes, but your fellow repubes have been using that attack out of desperation for some time now. The fact that this woman has no foreign policy experience, and two years ago was a mayor of a tiny town in Alaska is something that needs to be mentioned if she is to be a heartbeat away from being the leader of the free world.
I did indeed. And I take pride in not voting for the moron that will go down in history as an absolute disaster with the worst approval ratings EVER. I realize many Americans are dumb and don't vote their own best interests, so sometimes my candidate will lose.We'll know that after the election, buddy.  ;) He has his ethnicity to overcome, and many won't vote for him regardless of his superior intelligence and the failed policies of the last four years that McCain wants to continue. Neither you or I can predict the future.

The truth right here.  Thats the reason this will be a close race, if half the people in this country had a clue it would be a landslide victory for Obama.

LOTS of rednecks in the US.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Sharma on August 31, 2008, 05:26:03 AM
I am starting to warm to Obama. His Kenyan family are all good Muslims. He will be a breath of fresh air and may well end American aggression and evils perpetrated on Arab soil.
He might sort out the own backyard instead of blow up schools and hospitals, like Bush.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: dr.chimps on August 31, 2008, 06:04:40 AM
I am starting to warm to Obama. His Kenyan family are all good Muslims. He will be a breath of fresh air and may well end American aggression and evils perpetrated on Arab soil.
He might sort out the own backyard instead of blow up schools and hospitals, like Bush.
Hmm. That would still leave Muslim aggression and evil perpetrated on Arab soil. Still a backwards cesspool lacking in civil and human rights. Great Arab genetics!  :-[
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Benny B on August 31, 2008, 06:19:41 AM
If Obama is elected president I don't think it will be as much of a "step forward" as people might think. 
Because he is only half black...

No such thing in America, homey. Why, for example, are Halle Berry and Vanessa Williams always referred to as "black actresses?" Obama is a black man, period. Most American blacks have some European ancestry, anyway. To a certain degree you are right about the impact of the moment, however, the symbolic nature of this has tremendous meaning to black Americans given America's brutal treatment towards African Americans since it's inception.

America has had major black leaders before of biracial makeup. Booker T. Washington and Frederick Douglass were both biracial. History refers to them as what they were...black, not "half black".  ;)
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Mars on August 31, 2008, 06:45:40 AM
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: FullROM on August 31, 2008, 06:56:28 AM
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Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: chavez81 on August 31, 2008, 08:36:00 AM
No.  I live in Miami, and don't know of one person who says he/she will vote for Obama.  That should tell you something.



Thats because there is only F#$^ing Cubans in Miami here illegally who Cannot vote. I was in Hialeah the other day and wanted to shot myself.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: shootfighter1 on August 31, 2008, 09:06:15 AM
Guys, visit the political board in the general section.  Would be good to get more people debating.

I like Obama's style and respect the man but he is no longer the candidate that 'brings everyone together'.  He is to the far left of the democratic party, not a moderate like Bill Clinton. 

He wants to increase the power of the government, increase gov influence and control of various aspects of the private sector, increase funding and expand social programs, he will make things harder on small businesses, will increase multiple taxes outside of income (marriage, dividends, capital gains, payroll), and doesn't have any significant executive experience.  He plans to increase funding for so many programs but his tax hikes on families making over $250,000 per year DO NOT PAY for these programs.  This has been verified by respected economists. 

His teachings, mentors and agenda have socialist grounding.  Look at his backround...I mean some of the details, and you will learn more much about the man then the recent good speeches.  This country has no socialist foundations and we shouldn't be going in that direction.
I am proud that we have a woman & black American running for the highest office in the land this election, but we must look at the details, not just the rhetoric.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Benny B on August 31, 2008, 09:08:25 AM
Guys, visit the political board in the general section.  Would be good to get more people debating.

I like Obama's style and respect the man but he is no longer the candidate that 'brings everyone together'.  He is to the far left of the democratic party, not a moderate like Bill Clinton. 

He wants to increase the power of the government, increase gov influence and control of various aspects of the private sector, increase funding and expand social programs, he will make things harder on small businesses, will increase multiple taxes outside of income (marriage, dividends, capital gains, payroll), and doesn't have any significant executive experience.  He plans to increase funding for so many programs but his tax hikes on families making over $250,000 per year DO NOT PAY for these programs.  This has been verified by respected economists. 

His teachings, mentors and agenda have socialist grounding.  Look at his backround...I mean some of the details, and you will learn more much about the man then the recent good speeches.  This country has no socialist foundations and we shouldn't be going in that direction.
I am proud that we have a woman & black American running for the highest office in the land this election, but we must look at the details, not just the rhetoric.
shut the fuck up
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: swilkins1984 on August 31, 2008, 09:09:16 AM
She's all for drilling in Alaska. That got my vote.

She's up for some "drilling" you say? hmmmm  8)
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: shootfighter1 on August 31, 2008, 09:18:37 AM
Benny, another intelligent responce from you.... pathetic.

Can you debate issues without letting your estrogenic responces take over?
Most of what I wrote is facts.  You can disagree with the direction to take the country and disagree with taxation policies or the degree of influence of gov in the private sector but much of what I posted is fact, not opinion. 
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Benny B on August 31, 2008, 09:51:19 AM
Benny, another intelligent responce from you.... pathetic.

Can you debate issues without letting your estrogenic responces take over?
Most of what I wrote is facts.  You can disagree with the direction to take the country and disagree with taxation policies or the degree of influence of gov in the private sector but much of what I posted is fact, not opinion. 
eat me
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: SAMSON123 on August 31, 2008, 11:46:53 AM
If Obama is elected president I don't think it will be as much of a "step forward" as people might think. 
Because he is only half black, very charismatic, and because of his age and personality appeals to a lot of young people. 

I will be impressed when we nominate a completely black president who is older and not so charismatic.  Then and only then will I concede that America has come a long way in terms of racism. 


















Sarah Palin is hot...vote republican. 

OY VEY...
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Sharma on August 31, 2008, 11:55:06 AM
Hmm. That would still leave Muslim aggression and evil perpetrated on Arab soil. Still a backwards cesspool lacking in civil and human rights. Great Arab genetics!  :-[

You know nothing of the Middle East or Arab culture. All you know is what you're fed by your biased media, run by Atheists, Christians and Jews. Do  not even open your fool mouth to pronounce judgements on something you know nothing of.

Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: SAMSON123 on August 31, 2008, 12:02:48 PM
If Obama is elected president I don't think it will be as much of a "step forward" as people might think. 
Because he is only half black, very charismatic, and because of his age and personality appeals to a lot of young people. 

I will be impressed when we nominate a completely black president who is older and not so charismatic.  Then and only then will I concede that America has come a long way in terms of racism. 


















Sarah Palin is hot...vote republican. 

OY VEY...Where are you going with this HALF BALCK BULLSHIT????...There is no such thing as HALF BLACK...OR HALF OF ANY RACE. Your racial identity is determined through your father...NOT YOUR MOTHER and it is NOT a compilation of both. Obama's father is AFRICAN and therefore he is AFRICAN...like it or not.

The FOOLISH logic behind this BI-RACIAL nonsense would be akin to a child being born who is neither male nor female because the merging of the genders of both parents into a being that exibits a new gender all together. AND OF COURSE THAT IS NOT THE CASE...a child is either MALE OR FEMALE and that gender determination is brought about through the fathers DNA.

So far as OBAMA bringing CHANGE...HAHAHAHAHA...yo u better ask the POWER THAT RESTS BEHIND THE THRONE what CHANGE will truly be. Obama is another PUPPET like BUSH and CLINTON and all other presidents before them. There is an agenda that is at work and NO ONE WILL PREVENT ITS COMING...therefore anyone who sits in the whitehouse will HAVE TO follow THE PLAN!!!!  lest a assassins bullet will find their skull quickly.

So far as being NEGATIVE toward Obama...HAHAHAHAHA maybe you should be NEGETIVE towards whites who have been at the helm of this TITANIC called america for centuries and being so have not only crashed headlong into an iceberg (was he a jew?), but DELIBERATELY WRECKED THE SHIP OUT OF GREED AND STUPIDITY. Leave it to whites to put everyone on the ROAD TO PERDITION and not have a detour, exit or escape hatch.....
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: dr.chimps on August 31, 2008, 12:19:12 PM
You know nothing of the Middle East or Arab culture. All you know is what you're fed by your biased media, run by Atheists, Christians and Jews. Do  not even open your fool mouth to pronounce judgements on something you know nothing of.
LOL. Now you're reaching. The political and social oppression within the Muslim world is well known. Your poor attempt at running interference just proves my point.  :)

/post up that saudi executioner link again, sharma!
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Benny B on August 31, 2008, 02:25:54 PM
Your racial identity is determined through your father...NOT YOUR MOTHER and it is NOT a compilation of both. Obama's father is AFRICAN and therefore he is AFRICAN...like it or not.
I don't know who taught you this bullshit, but that is not the way it works in America. By your definition, a child that is the product of a white father and a black mother but looks like Lisa Bonet or Barack Obama would somehow be "white?"  ::) Please. Unless you are someone like the actress Jennifer Beals who can "pass" for white even though she is biracial, you can't get away with calling yourself white when your skin is darker than the average caucasian and your hair is tightly curled. Biracial people such as Halle Berry and Obama usually learn this reality early in life and therefore define themselves as black, lest they become very confused and hurt the first time they experience the racism they will surely face.

The whole concept of race is inherently bogus, but it is in essence defined in America by how you look and whether it has been determined that you have one drop of "black blood" in your ancestry.
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: HTexan on September 01, 2008, 01:53:29 AM
hahaha your not american ;D
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: SAMSON123 on September 01, 2008, 12:38:01 PM
I don't know who taught you this bullshit, but that is not the way it works in America. By your definition, a child that is the product of a white father and a black mother but looks like Lisa Bonet or Barack Obama would somehow be "white?"  ::) Please. Unless you are someone like the actress Jennifer Beals who can "pass" for white even though she is biracial, you can't get away with calling yourself white when your skin is darker than the average caucasian and your hair is tightly curled. Biracial people such as Halle Berry and Obama usually learn this reality early in life and therefore define themselves as black, lest they become very confused and hurt the first time they experience the racism they will surely face.

The whole concept of race is inherently bogus, but it is in essence defined in America by how you look and whether it has been determined that you have one drop of "black blood" in your ancestry.

BENNY BENNY BENNY...NOT SO STUPID...CUT BACK ON THE STUPID PILLS ALREADY...

You are talking about PHYSICAL APPEARANCE not race. RACE is an entirely different matter. As I have said RACE is not dependent on appearance...YES LENNY KRAVITZ is a WHITE MAN despite how he looks, MARIAH CAREY IS A BLACK WOMAN despite how she looks....NEITHER IS BI-RACIAL. There are many people walking around who are one race, but look entirely like another.

This STUPIDITY taught in america and american schools...that RACE IS DETERMINED BY HOW ONE LOOKS is ludicrous. Given that logic any male could dress himself up as a woman and be classified as a woman. Of course that is foolish, becasue physically and biologically he would be classified as a man and vice versa. Or how about a white person who tans is he/she now considered Black or maybe even putting on ProTan will classify a white person as Black, since in your mind race is dependent on appearance.  So there must be a GREATER detemining factor in this classification, which then becomes GENETIC which then determines physical, psychological, biological features that classifies gender as a man or woman... and so the same with race. And that geneticv factor comes from the father (not of his choice) but based upon the genes which determine both gender and race.

Some of the most famous Black people who look white but are:

George Clooney
Frank Sinatra
Mariah Carey
Loni Anderson
Christina Aguillera
and quite a few others



Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Benny B on September 01, 2008, 01:17:13 PM
BENNY BENNY BENNY...NOT SO STUPID...CUT BACK ON THE STUPID PILLS ALREADY...

You are talking about PHYSICAL APPEARANCE not race. RACE is an entirely different matter. As I have said RACE is not dependent on appearance...YES LENNY KRAVITZ is a WHITE MAN despite how he looks, MARIAH CAREY IS A BLACK WOMAN despite how she looks....NEITHER IS BI-RACIAL. There are many people walking around who are one race, but look entirely like another.

This STUPIDITY taught in america and american schools...that RACE IS DETERMINED BY HOW ONE LOOKS is ludicrous. Given that logic any male could dress himself up as a woman and be classified as a woman. Of course that is foolish, becasue physically and biologically he would be classified as a man and vice versa. Or how about a white person who tans is he/she now considered Black or maybe even putting on ProTan will classify a white person as Black, since in your mind race is dependent on appearance.  So there must be a GREATER detemining factor in this classification, which then becomes GENETIC which then determines physical, psychological, biological features that classifies gender as a man or woman... and so the same with race. And that geneticv factor comes from the father (not of his choice) but based upon the genes which determine both gender and race.

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Some of the most famous Black people who look white but are:

George Clooney
Frank Sinatra
Mariah Carey
Loni Anderson
Christina Aguillera
and quite a few others


???  ::)
Mariah Carey is the ONLY one on that list you are correct about, and her African features are obvious to most blacks. The average Italian would slit your throat for saying that shit about Sinatra.

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LENNY KRAVITZ is a WHITE MAN despite how he looks
  ???
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You are too dumb to even get into a discussion on this issue. Goodbye and good luck.  :-\
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on September 01, 2008, 09:33:27 PM
BENNY BENNY BENNY...NOT SO STUPID...CUT BACK ON THE STUPID PILLS ALREADY...

You are talking about PHYSICAL APPEARANCE not race. RACE is an entirely different matter. As I have said RACE is not dependent on appearance...YES LENNY KRAVITZ is a WHITE MAN despite how he looks, MARIAH CAREY IS A BLACK WOMAN despite how she looks....NEITHER IS BI-RACIAL. There are many people walking around who are one race, but look entirely like another.

This STUPIDITY taught in america and american schools...that RACE IS DETERMINED BY HOW ONE LOOKS is ludicrous. Given that logic any male could dress himself up as a woman and be classified as a woman. Of course that is foolish, becasue physically and biologically he would be classified as a man and vice versa. Or how about a white person who tans is he/she now considered Black or maybe even putting on ProTan will classify a white person as Black, since in your mind race is dependent on appearance.  So there must be a GREATER detemining factor in this classification, which then becomes GENETIC which then determines physical, psychological, biological features that classifies gender as a man or woman... and so the same with race. And that geneticv factor comes from the father (not of his choice) but based upon the genes which determine both gender and race.

Some of the most famous Black people who look white but are:

George Clooney
Frank Sinatra
Mariah Carey
Loni Anderson
Christina Aguillera
and quite a few others





YOU MY FIREIND....ARE DUMMER THAN A BOX OF ROCKS THAT SING............. ::)
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: WEAPONX on September 01, 2008, 09:38:02 PM


This guy might win now.

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Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: ibfasport on September 02, 2008, 03:43:12 AM
interesting racist discussion  ???

ob(s)ama will win by 2 vote, thanks to white woman Hilary
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: shootfighter1 on September 02, 2008, 06:19:16 AM
Samson, you make very little sense.  Its not like the chromosomes just come from the father.   ???
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Stavios on September 02, 2008, 08:24:27 AM
Oh, shit

You are not American.

No wonder you are clueless and a social bore.

Now I can rest easy. It is explained.

And no.

You may not assume shit about us.

you hate non-american people ?
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: CQ on September 02, 2008, 08:33:47 AM
you hate non-american people ?

How late are you Stavios 8)
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: chainsaw on September 02, 2008, 08:42:45 AM
not american as well, but i would lov to see Obama win this shit and be the president

Why
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: freespirit on September 02, 2008, 08:59:25 AM
you hate non-american people ?

What exactly is an American, or, what makes you an American? Is it the citizenship alone, so it doesn't mind what your ethnic background is, or do you have to be born there, or be a "patriot". What?
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: Tapeworm on September 02, 2008, 09:30:54 AM
What exactly is an American, or, what makes you an American? Is it the citizenship alone, so it doesn't mind what your ethnic background is, or do you have to be born there, or be a "patriot". What?

But don't you see?  Everyone is an American.  They just need America to show them.  :D
Title: Re: Not being American, Can i assume Obama will be president?
Post by: HTexan on September 02, 2008, 02:12:46 PM
you hate non-american people ?
haha you also not an American.  ;D