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Zogby: Palin Gives McCain Big Boost
Saturday, August 30, 2008 7:51 PM
Republican John McCain's surprise announcement Friday of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate - some 16 hours after Democrat Barack Obama's historic speech accepting his party’s presidential nomination - has possibly stunted any Obama convention bump, the latest Zogby Interactive flash poll of the race shows.
The latest nationwide survey, begun Friday afternoon after the McCain announcement of Palin as running mate and completed mid-afternoon today, shows McCain/Palin at 47%, compared to 45% support for Obama/Biden.
In other words, the race is a dead heat.
The interactive online Zogby survey shows that both Obama and McCain have solidified the support among their own parties - Obama won 86% support of Democrats and McCain 89% of Republicans in a two-way head-to-head poll question not including the running mates. When Biden and Palin are added to the mix, Obama's Democratic support remains at 86%, while McCain's increases to 92%.
After the McCain "Veep" announcement on Friday, Palin was almost immediately hailed as a strong conservative, and those voters have rallied to the GOP ticket, the survey shows. Republicans gather in St. Paul, Minnesota this week to officially nominate McCain and Palin as their presidential ticket.
Overall, 52% said the selection of Palin as the GOP vice presidential nominee helps the Republican ticket, compared to 29% who said it hurt. Another 10% said it made no difference, while 10% were unsure. Among independent voters, 52% said it helps, while 26% said it would hurt. Among women, 48% said it would help, while 29% said it would hurt the GOP ticket. Among Republicans, the choice was a big hit - as 87% said it would help, and just 3% said it would hurt.
Pollster John Zogby: "Palin is not to be underestimated. Her real strength is that she is authentic, a real mom, an outdoors person, a small town mayor (hey, she has dealt with a small town city council - that alone could be preparation for staring down Vladimir Putin, right?). She is also a reformer."
"A very important demographic in this election is going to be the politically independent woman, 15% of whom in our latest survey are undecided."
"In the final analysis, this election will be about Obama vs. McCain. Obama has staked out ground as the new JFK - a new generation, literally and figuratively, a new face of America to the world, a man who can cross lines and work with both sides. But McCain is the modern day Harry Truman - with lots of DC experience, he knows what is wrong and dysfunctional with Washington and how to fix it, and he has chosen a running mate who is about as far away from Washington as he could find.
"This contest is likely to be very close until the weekend before the election - then the dam may break and support may flood one way or the other."
The interactive survey shows that 22% of those voters who supported Democrat Hillary Clinton in their primary elections or caucus earlier this year are now supporting John McCain.
Among those who said they shop regularly at Wal-Mart - a demographic group that Zogby has found to be both "value" and "values" voters - Obama is getting walloped by McCain. Winning 62% support from weekly Wal-Mart shoppers, McCain wins these voters at a rate similar to what President Bush won in 2004. Obama wins 24% support from these voters.
Other demographic details are fairly predictable, showing that the McCain/Palin ticket heads into its convention on Monday with numbers that may fuel an optimism they may not have expected, and that many would not have predicted, especially after Obama's speech Thursday night.
Still, storm clouds remain on the horizon for the Republicans, a four-way horserace contest between McCain, Obama, Libertarian Bob Barr and liberal independent Ralph Nader shows.
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Zogby_Palin_Gives_McCain/2008/08/30/126447.html
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great, our election is going to be decided by Wal-Mart shoppers. did I read that rigth ::) It's hard to believe McCain got a boost out of Palin. Of course this is just an online poll so we'll see.
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What? ???
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What? ???
The article talks about Obama getting his ass kicked with Walmart Value Voters.
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As opposed to getting beat by idiots voting for as theme over substance right?
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The article talks about Obama getting his ass kicked with Walmart Value Voters.
You mean this?
Among those who said they shop regularly at Wal-Mart - a demographic group that Zogby has found to be both "value" and "values" voters - Obama is getting walloped by McCain. Winning 62% support from weekly Wal-Mart shoppers, McCain wins these voters at a rate similar to what President Bush won in 2004. Obama wins 24% support from these voters.
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Hey Beach, enjoying the weather, me to. We landed two big marlins off of Waianae
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You mean this?
Among those who said they shop regularly at Wal-Mart - a demographic group that Zogby has found to be both "value" and "values" voters - Obama is getting walloped by McCain. Winning 62% support from weekly Wal-Mart shoppers, McCain wins these voters at a rate similar to what President Bush won in 2004. Obama wins 24% support from these voters.
yea...
lol, just came across this :D
http://www.flickr.com/photos/snowesq/2352360376/
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great, our election is going to be decided by Wal-Mart shoppers. did I read that rigth ::) It's hard to believe McCain got a boost out of Palin. Of course this is just an online poll so we'll see.
Better than being decided by a bunch of bleeding heart libs.
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Better than being decided by a bunch of bleeding heart libs.
Of course, who am I to question the intelligence of "value oriented" voters choosing the president :D
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Hey Beach, enjoying the weather, me to. We landed two big marlins off of Waianae
Always. :) Check your PM.
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yea...
lol, just came across this :D
http://www.flickr.com/photos/snowesq/2352360376/
You leave us Walmart shoppers alone. >:( :)
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You leave us Walmart shoppers alone. >:( :)
I shop there too, not a lot of choice these days.
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I shop there too, not a lot of choice these days.
I though you'd be more inclined to shop at Lane Bryant and the flea market... :-\
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I though you'd be more inclined to shop at Lane Bryant and the flea market... :-\
flea markets are actually pretty awesome. Where else can you go to buy something that won't break after the first few uses. especially tools. Nothing like an old fashion made in America tool vs. the Chinese crap on the market now.
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Wal Mart
"Save more, live better"
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Dumbasses with their huge trucks and walmart fixations.... can't wait to make the Arabs and Chinese stronger, while whining about national security and guns the whole time.
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True Walmart story....
I was on my way in, I saw this gigantic women entering the store, 550+ LBS easily. She had the classic Tweetie Bird Walmart style shirt on. She get's in and sits down on one of those electric shopping carts. She takes off. I get a few yards ahead of her and suddenly hear what sounds like gun fire. I look back and see one side of this woman's cart is bottomed out and her 8 inch tire is off the rim. Looked like she clipped the corner of one of those sharp metal shelf's and blew a tire.
I turned away, walked forward trying to keep my lips sealed until I was out of hearing distance and started laughing so hard I was crying.
;D
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Nothing like an old fashion made in America tool vs. the Chinese crap on the market now.
Exactly...
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True Walmart story....
I was on my way in, I saw this gigantic women entering the store, 550+ LBS easily. She had the classic Tweetie Bird Walmart style shirt on. She get's in and sits down on one of those electric shopping carts. She takes off. I get a few yards ahead of her and suddenly hear what sounds like gun fire. I look back and see one side of this woman's cart is bottomed out and her 8 inch tire is off the rim. Looked like she clipped the corner of one of those sharp metal shelf's and blew a tire.
I turned away, walked forward trying to keep my lips sealed until I was out of hearing distance and started laughing so hard I was crying.
;D
Fat fuucking beasts like that always think they are victims...
Fuucking walk when you go out. Or at least stay home so as to not sicken the rest of us...
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True Walmart story....
I was on my way in, I saw this gigantic women entering the store, 550+ LBS easily. She had the classic Tweetie Bird Walmart style shirt on. She get's in and sits down on one of those electric shopping carts. She takes off. I get a few yards ahead of her and suddenly hear what sounds like gun fire. I look back and see one side of this woman's cart is bottomed out and her 8 inch tire is off the rim. Looked like she clipped the corner of one of those sharp metal shelf's and blew a tire.
I turned away, walked forward trying to keep my lips sealed until I was out of hearing distance and started laughing so hard I was crying.
;D
lol, I tried to keep from laughing
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LOL, good story ronpaulfan ;D
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Zogby: Palin Gives McCain Big Boost
Saturday, August 30, 2008 7:51 PM
Republican John McCain's surprise announcement Friday of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate - some 16 hours after Democrat Barack Obama's historic speech accepting his party’s presidential nomination - has possibly stunted any Obama convention bump, the latest Zogby Interactive flash poll of the race shows.
The latest nationwide survey, begun Friday afternoon after the McCain announcement of Palin as running mate and completed mid-afternoon today, shows McCain/Palin at 47%, compared to 45% support for Obama/Biden.
In other words, the race is a dead heat......
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Zogby_Palin_Gives_McCain/2008/08/30/126447.html
Again, I don't think anyone would have predicted McCain's pick would steal Obama's thunder, especially after the great speech he gave at the DNC. Someone on the news described Obama's performance as scoring a touchdown. If that's the case, McCain (by picking Palin) just returned the kickoff for a TD (or at least, to Obama's 5-yard line).
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Again, I don't think anyone would have predicted McCain's pick would steal Obama's thunder, especially after the great speech he gave at the DNC. Someone on the news described Obama's performance as scoring a touchdown. If that's the case, McCain (by picking Palin) just returned the kickoff for a TD (or at least, to Obama's 5-yard line).
Definitely returned a kick inside the red zone. We'll see if he scored in November.
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polls always take 7-10 for public sentiment to catch up.
Where was he polling by Sept 10th, Dos Equis? ;)
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polls always take 7-10 for public sentiment to catch up.
Where was he polling by Sept 10th, Dos Equis? ;)
yeah, this poll was taken less than 24 hours after she was announced as his choice,
She had yet to do the million stupid thing that eventually harmed his campaign
Post election study suggests that she cost McCain 2 million votes
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/01/19/sarah-palin-cost-john-mccain-2-million-votes-in-2008/
but fuck that, let's ignore the results of the actual election and hang our hat on a poll done less than a day after she was announced his VP pick
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but fuck that, let's ignore the results of the actual election and hang our hat on a poll done less than a day after she was announced his VP pick
It fits the narrative that dos equis wanted.
Palin really stunk up the joint, didn't she?
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HAHAHAHAHAHA at all this Palin praise.
What an idiot.
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Who is someone bumping a 8 year old thread?
What the fuck?