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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Hugo Chavez on August 31, 2008, 06:41:24 PM
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On the thread about it being a Rove attempt to exploit the rumor of Bristol being the mother of Trig. Nothing wrong with Calmus making the thread questioning motive of the story but I went right out and dug to find any truth to it and posted it. Traditionally kids and teens are left out of the political frey. Points were brought up in the thread that question the ethics in such a debate at all. And i see that point.
So what do you guys think, should we place this forum above speculations that involve kids and teens of political figures? It is pretty dirty ground to tred on.
Opinions Please...
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Kids are off limits until the parents use them for political gain or advantage. The media was VERY good about keeping obama's kids off-camera... until he started doing TV intereviews with them to get more votes.
Would this change its relevance?
2 years ago during the Governor race debates she said she would force her own daughter to carry a pregnancy to term even if she was a victim of rape.
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With large websites covering it, our little comments don't hurt I think? My comments were more about the media/web covering it, not us talking about what they are splashing.
Plus, we may disagree, but most folks here [politics] wouldn't make nasty comments about people's kids.
Just my thoughts.
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Yeah, on other forums, they're calling all sorts of names, really out-of-bounds stuff.
It may just be a horrible rumor. In which case I'm sure it'd be quite easily to prove it wrong. That magical speech and plane flight - 16 hours total after water breaking - makes me wonder. If she has the poor judgment to get on a plane with water broken, we have to question her sanity. If she wasn't in labor when she got on that plane, she's lying.
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A downs child is off limits period. If she uses her kids as political tools, she comes under attack. If her kids make overt political statements they can be targets...just like Biden's could for his speech, if that was neccesary. I wouldn't do it, u don't need to, but some might.
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Calmus has made numerous jokes about the toddler having down's syndrome indirectly, a true image of his character.
Large websites covering it? Yes as rumour, unproven.
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Children and spouses are OFF LIMITS until:
1. The parents use them for political gain (like Rob said).
2. The child and/or spouse personally get involved in the political arena.
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A downs child is off limits period. If she uses her kids as political tools, she comes under attack. If her kids make overt political statements they can be targets...just like Biden's could for his speech, if that was neccesary. I wouldn't do it, u don't need to, but some might.
The subject at issue is not about her child having down's syndrome, but whether it is her child at all.
It is a slippery slope I will agree, but I have to echo CQ's comments here. The can has already been opened, and it is a subject of discussion elsewhere. I think we're all capable of mature discussion without it getting downright nasty or unfair.
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And since none of u idiots has any proof...or any way to get it, drop it. The kid has downs.....leave it alone.
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On the thread about it being a Rove attempt to exploit the rumor of Bristol being the mother of Trig. Nothing wrong with Calmus making the thread questioning motive of the story but I went right out and dug to find any truth to it and posted it. Traditionally kids and teens are left out of the political frey. Points were brought up in the thread that question the ethics in such a debate at all. And i see that point.
So what do you guys think, should we place this forum above speculations that involve kids and teens of political figures? It is pretty dirty ground to tred on.
Opinions Please...
Hell no! This is unquestionably fair game, as it is a widely circulated rumor at this time. Lot's of rumors on this board.
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Calmus has made numerous jokes about the toddler having down's syndrome indirectly, a true image of his character.
If that's the case, ...it was unfortunate, ...but I ask, where was your righteous indignation when Rush went off on Michael J. Fox's condition?
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Calmus has made numerous jokes about the toddler having down's syndrome indirectly, a true image of his character.
Large websites covering it? Yes as rumour, unproven.
Go eat a cock, dumbass.
The kid has been politicized. Why the fuck do you think Dobson endorsed Palin? How many times have you heard "carried the baby to term despite knowing it had downs'"? That's her calling card.
God, you're dumb as shit.
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And since none of u idiots has any proof...or any way to get it, drop it. The kid has downs.....leave it alone.
Eat a dick up, dogshit. >:(
Stop acting like you give a flying shit about kids when you stated you didn't care one way or the other if millions of little children die of AIDs or malaria. You can take your false self righteousness and shove it up your fat, stinky asshole. >:(
Let the posts about Bristol Palin continue, Hugo.
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Chelsea clinton bitched when she was asked about the lewinski affair - BUT she put herself into that position by campaigning for Hilary. Nobody would dare ask her about it - until then.
Obama regretted the interview with his kids. Cameras used to avoid them, and never mentioned their names. Now, he has no problem bringing them onstage to win America's hearts.
The mccain/palin campaign made a big big deal about the birth - putting it up for examination.
At this point - this is either the most horrible campaign smear job in recent years, and KOS/NBC owe her a HUGE apology - or this is the political story of the year. Either way, I don't think any of us realizes how huge a story is about to unfold.
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How many times did she refer to my son trig in the last couple of days?
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And since none of u idiots has any proof...or any way to get it, drop it. The kid has downs.....leave it alone.
No one is talking about the baby, and I hardly think most here would go there, and if someone did I am sure we would all pounce on them. And the only thing I have read at all about the teen duaghter on this forum is sympathetic
It's news, and yes, she has whipped the the kids for photos, events etc.
And need I bump old threads slandering Michelle for the whitey tape, which notice - is still not produced? So, really the "don't have proof" bears no weight in past discussions, so why make it now.
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this story makes me sick to my stomach. This isn't sexy like the edwards videographer story, or the mccai lobbyist story. This one is just sad.
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No one is talking about the baby, and I hardly think most here would go there, and if someone did I am sure we would all pounce on them. And the only thing I have read at all about the teen duaghter on this forum is sympathetic
It's news, and yes, she has whipped the the kids for photos, events etc.
And need I bump old threads slandering Michelle for the whitey tape, which notice - is still not produced? So, really the "don't have proof" bears no weight in past discussions, so why make it now.
I questioned Palin's judgment having a child after she was 40. That's the extent of my references to the kid.
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No one is talking about the baby, and I hardly think most here would go there, and if someone did I am sure we would all pounce on them. And the only thing I have read at all about the teen duaghter on this forum is sympathetic
It's news, and yes, she has whipped the the kids for photos, events etc.
And need I bump old threads slandering Michelle for the whitey tape, which notice - is still not produced? So, really the "don't have proof" bears no weight in past discussions, so why make it now.
Michelle makes political statements does speeches, talk shows etc...and her kids have appeared in atleast i news program and on stage.....all politico's do that.
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yeah, michelle obama is open to total criticism - the minute she picked up a mic, her laundry gets exposed.
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this story makes me sick to my stomach. This isn't sexy like the edwards videographer story, or the mccai lobbyist story. This one is just sad.
It isn't sad if this bitch woman is lying about the child of her daughter. If its true, her nomination will blow up in McBush's face and this campaign is over.
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Michelle makes political statements does speeches, talk shows etc...and her kids have appeared in atleast i news program and on stage.....all politico's do that.
Agree, never said different.
My point was the board was starting threads for days about a tape, which was obviously a lie - so now why say we have "no facts so dont discuss it".
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It isn't sad if this bitch woman is lying about the child of her daughter. If its true, her nomination will blow up in McBush's face and this campaign is over.
eh, i don't think anything could sink either campaign at this point. We may be witnessing history like none other right now, if this rumor is true. It's still entirely possible that the left-wing media machine - led by daily KOS - is just smearing them on a labor day weekend. If so, it's a horrible lie and I'll campaign for mccain starting tomorrow if that's true and its linked to obama.
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eh, i don't think anything could sink either campaign at this point. We may be witnessing history like none other right now, if this rumor is true. It's still entirely possible that the left-wing media machine - led by daily KOS - is just smearing them on a labor day weekend. If so, it's a horrible lie and I'll campaign for mccain starting tomorrow if that's true and its linked to obama.
No way it's linked to Obama. His foaming at the mouth lackeys yes but not him.
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Go eat a cock, dumbass.
The kid has been politicized. Why the fuck do you think Dobson endorsed Palin? How many times have you heard "carried the baby to term despite knowing it had downs'"? That's her calling card.
God, you're dumb as shit.
:-\ mmm mmm mmm
my my, you kiss your mamma with that mouth?
So you like making fun of kids, bet it makes you feel big huh? Little man
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Agree, never said different.
My point was the board was starting threads for days about a tape, which was obviously a lie - so now why say we have "no facts so dont discuss it".
Then let me clarify...the media ought to drop it, without facts its all bullshit. The net runs with this shit and it does the same damage as if it were true.
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Then let me clarify...the media ought to drop it, without facts its all bullshit. The net runs with this shit and it does the same damage as if it were true.
It doesn't have to be true.
The whole point of BS like this is to put them on the defensive.
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Then let me clarify...the media ought to drop it, without facts its all bullshit. The net runs with this shit and it does the same damage as if it were true.
I agree, I was saying that earlier. If untrue, it is so unfair on the teenager that words cannot express how much :-\
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I agree, I was saying that earlier. If untrue, it is so unfair on the teenager that words cannot express how much :-\
If the parent is obsessed enough to pursue ambition on this level, you think the kids aren't going to be fucked up?
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eh, i don't think anything could sink either campaign at this point. We may be witnessing history like none other right now, if this rumor is true. It's still entirely possible that the left-wing media machine - led by daily KOS - is just smearing them on a labor day weekend. If so, it's a horrible lie and I'll campaign for mccain starting tomorrow if that's true and its linked to obama.
I don't agree, kid. This type of lie, were it to be exposed, would sink McCain faster than the Titanic. It would show him to be remarkably irresponsible for picking this woman.
I am speaking on if the rumor were found to be TRUE, 240. Let's use a little reading comprehension before responding to my posts, 240. ::)
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If the parent is obsessed enough to pursue ambition on this level, you think the kids aren't going to be fucked up?
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So I'm guessing your mom sits on a few city boards? Or was she governor also?
Might explain your lack of character, if kids become "f-ed up" when a parent pursues an ambitious role.
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Nope he's just stupid....can't pass the bar, can't argue a point without calling people names or melting down. Maybe u shouldn't practice law dude, u'd be trying to strangle the judge, jury, defendant whatever.
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He obviously didn't vet her that well.
He could have given a PI two weeks and come up with the same thing the media has found in 2 weeks.
At this point - youandme, or anyone else - can you still say that Mccain did a complete job vetting her?
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If the parent is obsessed enough to pursue ambition on this level, you think the kids aren't going to be fucked up?
I already had my "mom meltdown" about a mom with 3 kids, a special needs 4 month old baby trying to be VP....
Say what people like, I'm a mom - and no way with 4 kids, a baby with special needs, can she have time to do all well. Only 24 hrs in a day. Superman could not do it.
Might be more ideal to wait till they are older. I only went mad with building my companies once my kid was older, and required less time from me.
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Dude....come on. There is no proof of this shit. Daily Kos douchbags and their rumors don't equal facts.
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Nope he's just stupid....can't pass the bar, can't argue a point without calling people names or melting down. Maybe u shouldn't practice law dude, u'd be trying to strangle the judge, jury, defendant whatever.
And i thought my U of Getbig JD was going to take me places. :'(
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Dude....come on. There is no proof of this shit. Daily Kos douchbags and their rumors don't equal facts.
I think it's a load of shit to make this stuff public.
Any parent would take bullets for the kids. I'd do a prison bid for my kid, no Qs asked.
This story shouldn't be in discussion - but she shouldn't lie, if it's true.
HH6, as far as the merits of this story - if I had to bet the rent check... I might lean toward it being true. It's an outrageous story, almost unbelievable. But as people on blogs all over are now demostrating, there are a lot of oddities. waiting 16 hours after water breaks (including a speech then an 8 hour flight) to fly to a hospital where you're not listed on their baby records with all the other babies, the 8 month absence from her school for the kid... that's just the tip of it.
This is one screwed up story. But i'm thinking 51% chance that it's true. She's ambitious enough to go from housewife to governor to VP in only 18 months... living a quick lie like this wouldn't be impossible.
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A whitey tape, that has hints of truth with the Obama 's questionable "friends" is one thing
An allegation that cripples a family, and makes fun of an innocent child is something totally different, the "tape" never brought in the question of kids, and family, but America and race.
You can't compare this...
(http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_082908/content/01125111.Par.4584.ImageFile.jpg)
(http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_082908/content/01125111.Par.89380.ImageFile.jpg)
to this...
(http://www.globalserve.net/~marcusnkaren/dvm/assets/images/svhs_vcr_tape_01_small.jpg)
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If it is true, she is a bigger moron then Edwards. I mean why he ran with that skeleton in his closet god knows.
If it isn't, the people who first brought it out should be ashamed and massive levels of retraction should be printed.
The birth story is strange at best. Caught a flight while in labour? Um, ok.
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240...I don't know...and honestly what gain does she have if she is doing this. She might be protecting her unwed daughter...so what. Obama being buddies with a domestic terrorist, one who helped get him elected, is more worrisome.
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240...I don't know...and honestly what gain does she have if she is doing this. She might be protecting her unwed daughter...so what. Obama being buddies with a domestic terrorist, one who helped get him elected, is more worrisome.
hahaha
Sure it is, dogshit. ::)
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Most reasonable people would consider HH6 a bigger terrorist than Bill Ayres...
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Protecting her family...buds with a guy who tried to blow up the pentagon.....family...te rrorist duchebag...hmmmmm.
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Why don't you run along and make some more posts about nuking entire nations now? Okthxbye.
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I already had my "mom meltdown" about a mom with 3 kids, a special needs 4 month old baby trying to be VP....
Say what people like, I'm a mom - and no way with 4 kids, a baby with special needs, can she have time to do all well. Only 24 hrs in a day. Superman could not do it.
Might be more ideal to wait till they are older. I only went mad with building my companies once my kid was older, and required less time from me.
Her kids are 19, 17, 14, 7, and infant. Only one of them requires full-time care. Child no. 1 is gone, no. 2 is almost an adult, no. 3 is in high school, and no. 4 is in first or second grade. If the dad is a full-time dad, like I've heard, then it isn't that big of a deal. Will be hard, but I'm sure it is hard as governor too.
I'm one who believes moms should stay home at least until the kids are in school if possible, but I don't condemn any woman who works either out of necessity or by choice.
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Protecting her family...buds with a guy who tried to blow up the pentagon.....family...te rrorist duchebag...hmmmmm.
Hmmm...which one will cause the other to have to resign if determined to be true, dogshit? Obama was 8 when this guy attempted a terrorist act, whereas this piece of eye candy posing as VP may have lied JUST THIS YEAR.
hmmmmmm.
Why don't you run along and make some more posts about nuking entire nations now? Okthxbye.
LOL
Dogshit has taken shrapnel to the brain. I'm awaiting the days until he gets shipped off to Iraq. Hopefully he will be in the very front of a roadside bomb patrol. ;D
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hahaha
Sure it is, dogshit. ::)
So I'm guessing in your reading of Chomsky you discovered that terrorism is ok?
Maybe you need to read it about 10 times so the fact can sink in that the words he wrote did not always mean what they appeared to read. In fact he would agree with HH6 and call for more investigations of Obama, since he was a believer in government action and it's power to alleviate doubt, both by force and law.
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So I'm guessing in your reading of Chomsky you discovered that terrorism is ok?
Maybe you need to read it about 10 times so the fact can sink in that the words he wrote did not always mean what they appeared to read. In fact he would agree with HH6 and call for more investigations of Obama, since he was a believer in government action and it's power to alleviate doubt, both by force and law.
Oh brother, now he trots out the Chomsky. lol.
Dude, you can't even fucking spell...
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240...I don't know...and honestly what gain does she have if she is doing this. She might be protecting her unwed daughter...so what. Obama being buddies with a domestic terrorist, one who helped get him elected, is more worrisome.
The media should talk about the Ayers link every day. Instead of just making fun of him for greek pillars in his speech, they should talk about his connections. They don't. They tease him over flag pins and his big ears. FOX included - they ignore the issue. That ayers stuff was fresh on july 4, and what did we hear? 3 days of "Which candidate is more patriotic"... gimme a break.
IMO, living a lie for months like that is something that violates ethics. Just decline the VP nod and get away with it, have aan awesome job as popular governor. The presidency is an institution. People like ROmney and Biden belong up there. Those like Rudy, mccain, obama with skeletons in their closets aren't the best choices. People with squeaky clean records should get the nod. If you have shady shit in your record, put ambition aside, and just let someone else have the job.
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Oh brother, now he trots out the Chomsky. lol.
Dude, you can't even fucking spell...
haha actually benny came out with it.
haha spell...message board....drama queen
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haha actually benny came out with it.
haha spell...message board....drama queen
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My reference to Chomsky had nothing to do with this thread or its contents. ::)
You really are a moron...sticking your pea brain into places it does not belong. I am having fun with BezerkFury the titty baby, and you jump in and take something out of context. Reminds me of when BerzerkFury was having a racist spiel here in one of his meltdowns with me, and you obviously read it and started following me onto the G&O board making racist jokes. You really ought to get your own ideas, kid.
The last thing on earth I need is your pea brain telling me how to interpret Chomsky. hahahaha...oh, brother. ::)
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Hmmm...which one will cause the other to have to resign if determined to be true, dogshit? Obama was 8 when this guy attempted a terrorist act, whereas this piece of eye candy posing as VP may have lied JUST THIS YEAR.
hmmmmmm.
LOL
Dogshit has taken shrapnel to the brain. I'm awaiting the days until he gets shipped off to Iraq. Hopefully he will be in the very front of a roadside bomb patrol. ;D
You are a fool.
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Ok, not a big concensus here on the issue so let's just be caucious when kids are involved. There's no need to go overboard here. Talk about it but keep well above scumbag level. I think we can all agree with that. Nobody wants to be attacking kids or see it. Thanks for all the imput! I had to double take this one for the board and for myself.
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My reference to Chomsky had nothing to do with this thread or its contents. ::)
You really are a moron...sticking your pea brain into places it does not belong. I am having fun with BezerkFury the titty baby, and you jump in and take something out of context. Reminds me of when BerzerkFury was having a racist spiel here in one of his meltdowns with me, and you obviously read it and started following me onto the G&O board making racist jokes. You really ought to get your own ideas, kid.
The last thing on earth I need is your pea brain telling me how to interpret Chomsky. hahahaha...oh, brother. ::)
Benny your not special no one is following you. Benny your not smart you have never read Chomsky. Benny your not rich. Benny you don't know how to dress good. Benny you are a mix of Black and Hispanic, which causes you to think delusional thoughts of being rich, popular, smart, and good looking.
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Benny your not special no one is following you.
Then how did you know my reference to Chomsky, dipshit? You respond to virtually every post you make, usually using the argument of someone else you just read. ::)
Benny your not smart you have never read Chomsky.
LOL...and you know this...how? I have couple of his books on my bookshelf that I have read more than once. I doubt you have read a book all the way through in your life judging by your posts. :-\ How far did you get in school, "youandme?" I asked of you once before and you disappeared from the thread.
Benny your not rich.
Never said I was. Are you?
Benny you don't know how to dress good.
??? Been peaking into my bedroom window again you pervert?
Benny you are a mix of Black and Hispanic, which causes you to think delusional thoughts of being rich, popular, smart, and good looking.
haha...ok
You are the inbred mixture of two redneck first cousins, therefore making you susceptible to wearing dirty overalls, driving a beat up pickup truck, living in a trailer park, and possessing a ninth grade education. Oh, but those assumptions would be quite churlish of me. ::)
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"The media should talk about the Ayers link every day. Instead of just making fun of him for greek pillars in his speech, they should talk about his connections. They don't. They tease him over flag pins and his big ears. FOX included - they ignore the issue. That ayers stuff was fresh on july 4, and what did we hear? 3 days of "Which candidate is more patriotic"... gimme a break".
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240, you are absolutely correct!
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My opinion: we should be able to discuss it if the story has credibility. Some members here don't debate without insulting. If that should occur in the context of a baby or minor, then they should be warned or banned.
If this is true...Palin has problems. If this is not true, its a huge smear tactic that is downright deplorable.
FYI, downs syndrome is extremely uncommon to a very young female mother. Could it be that Palin stayed in good shape during the pregnancy...this woman is unbelievable if this story is BS. We need to come down hard on the democratic originators of this story if false. Pathetic politics to attack the family like this. Most women will be pissed.
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My opinion: we should be able to discuss it if the story has credibility. Some members here don't debate without insulting. If that should occur in the context of a baby or minor, then they should be warned or banned.
If this is true...Palin has problems. If this is not true, its a huge smear tactic that is downright deplorable.
FYI, downs syndrome is extremely uncommon to a very young female mother. Could it be that Palin stayed in good shape during the pregnancy...this woman is unbelievable if true.
An older mother is much more likely to give birth to a child with Downs. Over 40, the rate of downs or other birth defects increases dramatically. It's very, very low for teenage mothers. Genetics 101 shit. Seems to be oddly missing from most of the talks.
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Protecting her family...
By this comment, ...one can easily infer that you believe the rumours to be true. ;)
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Hmmm...which one will cause the other to have to resign if determined to be true, dogshit? Obama was 8 when this guy attempted a terrorist act, whereas this piece of eye candy posing as VP may have lied JUST THIS YEAR.
hmmmmmm.
LOL
Dogshit has taken shrapnel to the brain. I'm awaiting the days until he gets shipped off to Iraq. Hopefully he will be in the very front of a roadside bomb patrol. ;D
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa......... i guess u got shoved in a lot of lockers when u were in school. I imagine it would be ok to hang out with Bin Laden 20 years from now right. Could u please pack and leave my country...worthless lib.
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My opinion: we should be able to discuss it if the story has credibility. Some members here don't debate without insulting. If that should occur in the context of a baby or minor, then they should be warned or banned.
If this is true...Palin has problems. If this is not true, its a huge smear tactic that is downright deplorable.
FYI, downs syndrome is extremely uncommon to a very young female mother. Could it be that Palin stayed in good shape during the pregnancy...this woman is unbelievable if this story is BS. We need to come down hard on the democratic originators of this story if false. Pathetic politics to attack the family like this. Most women will be pissed.
My understanding is that this has been a question in people's minds up in Alaska long before Palin was on the radar and was being asked by both Democrats and Republicans alike. Only now that she has been selected as a running mate are many Republicans have set aside their own desire to clear up any question concerning the child's parentage and are decrying the story or the interest they themselves had in it.
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Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa.........i guess u got shoved in a lot of lockers when u were in school. I imagine it would be ok to hang out with Bin Laden 20 years from now right. Could u please pack and leave my country...worthless lib.
Actually, I was the one doing the shoving of kids into lockers. ;) I have long since matured.
This isn't your country, dogshit. ::) Could you please request an early shipment back to Iraq and volunteer to be at the head of a walking tour for roadside bombs? I am hoping that your body parts will be unrecognizable after you get blown the fuck up.
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Oh bud its my country.......u've done nothing to deserve it at all. Nothing. So kindly pack and we'll drop u back in Africa or Haiti or whatever shithole 3rd world nation u originally came from.
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Oh bud its my country.......u've done nothing to deserve it at all. Nothing
bwahaha, you don't own jack shit here. You just follow orders and live under a delusion that you have some say in matters beyond your scope. You have done nothing but been an embarrassment to this country.
So kindly pack and we'll drop u back in Africa or Haiti or whatever shithole 3rd world nation u originally came from.
I was born and raised in the U.S.A., dogshit.
Why don't you swing by and MAKE ME leave, Rambo? :-* I'll gladly help you pack up and ship your sorry fucking ass back to Ireland, Hungry, Calabria, or wherever the fuck your poor as peasant ancestors came from. ;)
However, I much rather hear the news of you blown to several dozen pieces on your next deployment to Iraq. Have fun! ;D
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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAA...way more American then u there Benny Negro.........I've done way more for this country then u will ever be able to do. U suck off the benefits of what I do, and it pisses u off. Deep down u know u don't have the balls to do what I do, and it it really upsets ur manhood. I'm sorry ur less of a man. So please man, walk up to the top of ur tenment building and end it or pack ur crap and get out of MY country, u don't deserve to live here.
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I bet ur i post away from MELTDOWN
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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA...way more American then u there Benny Negro.......
And this douchebag wants "serious responses" ::) dream on, keyboard warrior.
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And this douchebag wants "serious responses" ::) dream on, keyboard warrior.
Exactly. When in out of intelligent material, dogshit resorts to the most racist of comments. What a tough guy. ::)
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Racist...u wanted me to get killed in Iraq ::)......ok Benny ur right, poor widdle Benny, his fewings are hurt because he's a wussing widdle angry black man, who thinks Obama wants to save him from Witty, sorry Benny, but Obama is a tool of the Dems and won't do anything for u. Does that make it better benny, so sorry, I just thought that responding to u on ur poor level of education and understanding would help u understand that it would be better to eat a pistol. Let me know when u've accomplished more then thieving my oxygen.
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..u wanted me to get killed in Iraq ::)...
Ure so gung ho about Iraq, you should be happy he wishes you were there. I'm gung ho about Fiji, and I sure as hell wish I was there.
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Racist...u wanted me to get killed in Iraq ::)
Why yes...as a matter of fact, yes I do. ;D
......ok Benny ur right, poor widdle Benny, his fewings are hurt
Why are you writing with an Elmer Fudd affectation? Are you secretly gay? I guess they still have a "don't ask, don't tell" policy in the military, so I understand the secrecy. :-*
because he's a wussing widdle angry black man, who thinks Obama wants to save him from Witty,
I'm not angry at all, dogshit. You are the one that melts with every post. The retards on this board are not worth the emotion of "anger" from me. And what's "witty?" ??? I like witty people so why would I need "saving" from them? :-\
sorry Benny, but Obama is a tool of the Dems and won't do anything for u.
Obama is no more a tool of the Dems than McCain is a tool of the Repubes, Einstein. In many ways ALL politicians are tools of the party machinery that help them get elected. So what? He's still smarter than McCain and will make better choices when elected.
Does that make it better benny
Uhhh...no.
so sorry, I just thought that responding to u on ur poor level of education and understanding would help u understand that it would be better to eat a pistol.
LOL
Nice try, but I am just as educated if not moreso than you. Way to perpetuate stereotypes, Jethro. ::)
Hey, you like firearms...why don't you swallow yours. Are you saving yourself from the horrors that await you in Baghdad on your 20th tour of duty thanks to Bush? Roadside bombs await you! ;D
Let me know when u've accomplished more then thieving my oxygen.
It ain't your oxygen to steal, jackass. Let me know when you've done anything more than learn to take orders and fire a gun, GI Joe!
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WAAAAAAAAAA..i was elmer fudding u because its all u can understand......and when anybody on here starts the I'm more educated, richer, bigger, better looking, its usually the opposite. So lets skip the self inflation...and its my oxygen I earned it, ur leeching it.
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WAAAAAAAAAA..i was elmer fudding u because its all u can understand......and when anybody on here starts the I'm more educated, richer, bigger, better looking, its usually the opposite. So lets skip the self inflation...and its my oxygen I earned it, ur leeching it.
You're the biggest goddamned parasite on here, and you know it. :)
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Exactly. When in out of intelligent material, dogshit resorts to the most racist of comments. What a tough guy. ::)
Basically, it is becoming the MO around here.
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Basically, it is becoming the MO around here.
becoming? you must be new around here.
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becoming? you must be new around here.
Sorry, I shall rephrase..."it is getting worse around here"
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Sorry, I shall rephrase..."it is getting worse around here"
Get used to it. It's only going to get worse. I've seen such irrational posts here I can only conclude that the cancer of bigotry is still alive and well. Nobody wants to believe it about themselves, but the proof is in what they say.
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bwahaha, you don't own jack shit here. You just follow orders and live under a delusion that you have some say in matters beyond your scope. You have done nothing but been an embarrassment to this country.
I was born and raised in the U.S.A., dogshit.
Why don't you swing by and MAKE ME leave, Rambo? :-* I'll gladly help you pack up and ship your sorry fucking ass back to Ireland, Hungry, Calabria, or wherever the fuck your poor as peasant ancestors came from. ;)
However, I much rather hear the news of you blown to several dozen pieces on your next deployment to Iraq. Have fun! ;D
BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA
Calm down, tough guy.
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Get used to it. It's only going to get worse. I've seen such irrational posts here I can only conclude that the cancer of bigotry is still alive and well. Nobody wants to believe it about themselves, but the proof is in what they say.
100% agree....
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Ok, moving on from the bickering...
This story with Palin's pregnancy proves the daughter is not the mother of the child with Downs. Lets focus on that for a minute.
Horrible smear tactic by some on the left. This should not go without severe criticism. Palin did not lie and just experienced her first bullshit pathetic attack. Deplorable, some on the left should be ashamed.
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This story with Palin's pregnancy proves the daughter is not the mother of the child with Downs. Lets focus on that for a minute.
If the story is true, then she did not lie.
If the baby is hers, then she admittedly spent 17 hours speaking, chatting, and FLYING, after her water broke, with a pre-mature Downs Syndrome child. She's already disqualified herself on the grounds of lack of common sense.
Click on this map to read it more clearly. These are her own ADMITTED actions. Does this appear to be a woman with good decision-making skills?
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240, do not avoid the topic. The story is incorrect, period. Man up. Big time smear from the left. This is not Palins daughter's child.
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, I much rather hear the news of you blown to several dozen pieces on your next deployment to Iraq. Have fun! ;D
you dont really mean this do you?
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you dont really mean this do you?
I'm afraid he does. :-\
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240, do not avoid the topic. The story is incorrect, period. Man up. Big time smear from the left. This is not Palins daughter's child.
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240, do not avoid the topic. The story is incorrect, period. Man up. Big time smear from the left. This is not Palins daughter's child.
Don't hold your breath.
Definitely a terrible smear tactic.
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240, do not avoid the topic. The story is incorrect, period. Man up. Big time smear from the left. This is not Palins daughter's child.
All we have now is a statement from Camp Mccain.
We have no verification. For all we know, this could be a dodge designed to obfuscute the issue. Rove isn't exactly known for his honesty...
I never said it was true. I said my gut says there is an 80% chance it's true, and I look fwd to it being either revealed, or debunked.
Releasing the child's birth certificate would debunk this. Announcing the kid is preggo gives them more time.
I will reserve judgment until she has been properly vetted. That is happening now. "Mccain said in a press release..." hardly qualifies as proof of ANYTHING, just as anything Obama claims isn't true until proven true.
Besides, whether it's true or not, she has shown herself to not be capable of making rational decisions. You don't wait 16+ hours after water breaking, and take 2 plane flights, if you're about to drop a pre-mature child with downs. Incredible stupid, or a lie. Disqualifies her either way.
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Ok, moving on from the bickering...
This story with Palin's pregnancy proves the daughter is not the mother of the child with Downs. Lets focus on that for a minute.
Horrible smear tactic by some on the left. This should not go without severe criticism. Palin did not lie and just experienced her first bullshit pathetic attack. Deplorable, some on the left should be ashamed.
Questions about her pregnancy were raised before she received the nod for vice presidential nominee. The situation was suspicious, the questions were legit and she didn't respond when she had many opportunities to do so. This wasn't a smear campaign. Her silence exacerbated the veracity of the rumor.
On top of that, I'm not entirely convinced that McCain was made aware of the daughter's pregnancy or that she's been pregnant for 5 months. A mother of a newborn with a teenage daughter whose about to give birth sounds like liability. The right will rally around her now, if only to spite the "hateful left", but minus the context of the scandal, Palin becomes an even poorer choice the more you learn about her.
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All we have now is a statement from Camp Mccain.
We have no verification. For all we know, this could be a dodge designed to obfuscute the issue. Rove isn't exactly known for his honesty...
I never said it was true. I said my gut says there is an 80% chance it's true, and I look fwd to it being either revealed, or debunked.
Releasing the child's birth certificate would debunk this. Announcing the kid is preggo gives them more time.
I will reserve judgment until she has been properly vetted. That is happening now. "Mccain said in a press release..." hardly qualifies as proof of ANYTHING, just as anything Obama claims isn't true until proven true.
Besides, whether it's true or not, she has shown herself to not be capable of making rational decisions. You don't wait 16+ hours after water breaking, and take 2 plane flights, if you're about to drop a pre-mature child with downs. Incredible stupid, or a lie. Disqualifies her either way.
240, you want this to be true don't you?
I'm getting the impression you'll be a sad panda if it all turns out to be false.
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I'm afraid he does. :-\
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the people on this board need to lighten up a little
http://www.grapheine.com/classiktv/index.php?module=see&lang=fr&code=a0399ed42d4a315c8c71dfb4bdcd3413
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the people on this board need to lighten up a little
http://www.grapheine.com/classiktv/index.php?module=see&lang=fr&code=a0399ed42d4a315c8c71dfb4bdcd3413
lol. :)
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240, you want this to be true don't you?
I'm getting the impression you'll be a sad panda if it all turns out to be false.
No. What I want is for the VP selection to be properly vetted, just as mccian, obama, and biden were vetted.
It's obvious he didn't vet her. The locla newspaper said no one from any campaign checked their local newspaper records for the last 20 years, in which she was in there a lot.
I don't want some drama coming AFTER she is in office. I want the american public to be able to vote for a person based upon what they're about and what they've done, not a bunch of lies.
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calmus, have some logic man. Do you not agree that this was a deplorable smear story? The Down's child is not the daughters...do you not find it unacceptible to fabricate bullshit like this to hurt candidates? I certainly do, and apparently so does your candidate for president!
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No. What I want is for the VP selection to be properly vetted, just as mccian, obama, and biden were vetted.
It's obvious he didn't vet her. The locla newspaper said no one from any campaign checked their local newspaper records for the last 20 years, in which she was in there a lot.
I don't want some drama coming AFTER she is in office. I want the american public to be able to vote for a person based upon what they're about and what they've done, not a bunch of lies.
Meh... the American media (for better or worse) will vet her. Anyone running for office in this country gets vetted by the media and then some.
In the end the people will decide on election day.
However, attacks like this only steer the public away from the issues and keep them focused on the drama.
Sort of like the crap about Obama being a durka.
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Ok, moving on from the bickering...
This story with Palin's pregnancy proves the daughter is not the mother of the child with Downs. Lets focus on that for a minute.
Did I miss something? How does the announcement of Bristol's pregnancy prove, she is not the mother of the other child?
Horrible smear tactic by some on the left. This should not go without severe criticism. Palin did not lie and just experienced her first bullshit pathetic attack. Deplorable, some on the left should be ashamed.
I don't know that this is an attack by those on the left. My understanding is this has been an issue long before she was on the VPresidential radar, and been a subject of active inquiry both on both sides of the aisle up in Alaska.
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My understanding is this has been an issue long before she was on the VPresidential radar, and been a subject of active inquiry both on both sides of the aisle up in Alaska.
This sentiment seems to be echoed on some of the alaska political forums.
People said "fake pregnancy" for the last 4 months. Nobody was listening then.
it's not unheard of for parents to do such things. She's a woman of power. Her doctor might play along. She did promote her or give the doc some powerful post in 2007, no? She had a lot to lose - if it was a close pick at all, mccain might have just steered clear.
Time will tell if it's true, or if it's false. Yesterday, before Rove gave today's marching orders statement, a lot of people on this board - repubs and independents - thought this veep was in hot water. Rove gave them a life vest, but they're still paddling water waiting for the ACTUAL vetting to take place this week.
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you dont really mean this do you?
Abso-motherfucking-lutely. ;)
Just as dogshit believes millions of children born with AIDs or afflicted with malaria don't deserve sympathy and should die because they are worthless anyway, and no one should care about them. He said this about INNOCENT CHILDREN. This fake ass Rambo wannabe is lower than pond scum...hence the name dogshit.
I'd throw a party and give out free food and drinks if this asshole gets blown up in Iraq.
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Abso-motherfucking-lutely. ;)
Just as dogshit believes millions of children born with AIDs or afflicted with malaria don't deserve sympathy and should die because they are worthless anyway, and no one should care about them. He said this about INNOCENT CHILDREN. This fake ass Rambo wannabe is lower than pond scum...hence the name dogshit.
I'd throw a party and give out free food and drinks if this asshole gets blown up in Iraq.
His conduct has definitely been very unbecoming of an officer, and if people were to view him as representative of all American military, it would cast a very black eye on the many fine, decent, and honourable men & women who wear the uniform. :'(
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His conduct has definitely been very unbecoming of an officer, and if people were to view him as representative of all American military, it would cast a very black eye on the many fine, decent, and honourable men & women who wear the uniform. :'(
That is very true. I am sure most military don't think or say things like that. My dad was career military and would not dream of thinking those things.
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Oh, he's just a good ol' inbred sonofabitch, like his dear pal, douche Mark.
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That is very true. I am sure most military don't think or say things like that. My dad was career military and would not dream of thinking those things.
I'm sure everyone on your island was in the military, what's your point? He has earned the right to say whatever he wants.
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I'm sure everyone on your island was in the military, what's your point? He has earned the right to say whatever he wants.
no he hasn't.
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I'm sure everyone on your island was in the military, what's your point? He has earned the right to say whatever he wants.
Everyone was in the military? How nutty to think that.
As I have said before, my dad was attached to the British special forces, was highly ranked and has a stack of medals and all that jazz :-*
But hey, like I said, if you want to be proud that you servicemen want babies dead cool, I would be ashamed of my military myself. Also I know plenty of US military through my dad and the ones I know are great people, and most surely don't think it's cool babies die. I do not think that's the norm.
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"Besides, whether it's true or not, she has shown herself to not be capable of making rational decisions. You don't wait 16+ hours after water breaking, and take 2 plane flights, if you're about to drop a pre-mature child with downs. Incredible stupid, or a lie. Disqualifies her either way"
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This information is from a leftist blog, I heard it discussed briefly last night. 240, stop getting your news from the Daily KOS!
Jag, a 17 yr old giving birth to a Down's baby is incredibly rare and being that she is 5 months pregnant and the baby is 5 months old. She would have had to become pregnant within weeks of delivery. The chance of all this is like hitting a state lottery.
Acqusations should be based on direct proof. You shouldn't have to proove every bullshit acqusation is false. Totally backwards.
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no he hasn't.
Yes he has.
And you have every right not to agree with him.
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Yes he has.
And you have every right not to agree with him.
He does have his right, thing is if he wishes death on babies etc, he then withdraws his card to get stuff deleted anymore when people wish death on US troops then.
I agree with neither, but he wants to say it's his right to think it's great babies die, then ppl can think it's great other humans die.
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"Besides, whether it's true or not, she has shown herself to not be capable of making rational decisions. You don't wait 16+ hours after water breaking, and take 2 plane flights, if you're about to drop a pre-mature child with downs. Incredible stupid, or a lie. Disqualifies her either way"
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This information is from a leftist blog, I heard it discussed briefly last night. 240, stop getting your news from the Daily KOS!
Jag, a 17 yr old giving birth to a Down's baby is incredibly rare and being that she is 5 months pregnant and the baby is 5 months old. She would have had to become pregnant within weeks of delivery. The chance of all this is like hitting a state lottery.
Acqusations should be based on direct proof. You shouldn't have to proove every bullshit acqusation is false. Totally backwards.
The fact that the child does have Down's syndrome does make a case for Sarah as the mother,
...however rare is not impossible. As for getting pregnant within weeks of delivery, ...also not so rare.
Growing up I've had friends who were siblings born 9 - 11 months apart.
Besides, at that age, ...you know what bunnies they are. :P ;)
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Just as dogshit believes millions of children born with AIDs or afflicted with malaria don't deserve sympathy and should die because they are worthless anyway, and no one should care about them. He said this about INNOCENT CHILDREN.
if this is true i can see how it would enrage
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This information is from a leftist blog, I heard it discussed briefly last night. 240, stop getting your news from the Daily KOS!
That's what this entire sub-forum has become over the last week - read a lefty blog - post it. Once the story is proven false, just post another one.
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if this is true i can see how it would enrage
Yep, and he stated it twice for emphasis in the same thread and was not joking. Of course in typically sycophant manner BezerkFury jumped in with equally disgusting comments. I guess since they are mostly non-white African children their lives don't matter. >:(
I wish no more servicemen and women have to die in George Bush's bogus war in Iraq, but as far dogshit...his loss would be the world's gain.
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That's what this entire sub-forum has become over the last week - read a lefty blog - post it. Once the story is proven false, just post another one.
True. :-\
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I'm reading the other half of this thread from page 2 today. All I have to say is well done by the two parties and the media.
This is all bs. They were successful, who ever is right or wrong does not matter. As long as there is chatter. Fuckin amazing [ sorry for swearing ] Unbelievable.