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Title: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: QuakerOats on September 02, 2008, 08:57:36 AM
how does Steve Namat the guy on the far right finish 6th, i've got him either in 1st outright or tied with David Henry, looks amazing and 6th is absolute bullshit.
Title: Re: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: njflex on September 02, 2008, 08:59:04 AM
how does Steve Namat the guy on the far right finish 6th, i've got him either in 1st outright or tied with David Henry, looks amazing and 6th is absolute bullshit.
DUDE is stacked,good flow to his build,but look at that top 6 ,good class and all peaked.
Title: Re: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: Mars on September 02, 2008, 08:59:50 AM
i think david henry has "promoted" himself more behind the scenes than steve.
Title: Re: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: QuakerOats on September 02, 2008, 09:00:00 AM
DUDE is stacked,good flow to his build,but look at that top 6 ,good class and all peaked.
like i said i've got either 1st or tied with DH.
Title: Re: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: The Wizard on September 02, 2008, 09:01:34 AM
Totally agree. He was royally fucked up the arse ..... Henry was close to him, but Flex Lewis must have been suckin judge cock for weeks ahead of this one!!!
Title: Re: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: spinnis on September 02, 2008, 09:03:13 AM
He should be second after dh.
Title: Re: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: QuakerOats on September 02, 2008, 09:05:01 AM
look how much bigger Steve's legs are than all of them.
Title: Re: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: Kwon on September 02, 2008, 09:06:00 AM
How could Steve get 15th spot in Dallas?

Weird.
Title: Re: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: kreator on September 02, 2008, 09:13:03 AM
steve posted pictures of him and his girlfriend.............. ..hence he was not ''available'' for the judges

Title: Re: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: swilkins1984 on September 02, 2008, 09:27:48 AM
All those guys look spot on. Waists in check, no synthol signs, and ripped to the bone. Impressive.  :o
Title: Re: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on September 02, 2008, 09:28:13 AM
i think david henry has "promoted" himself more behind the scenes than steve.

are you saying there may be "things" concerning David Henry?
Title: Re: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: lvtolft on September 02, 2008, 09:31:02 AM
How he doesn't come in first or second, I just don't understand ???
Title: Re: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: Stavios on September 02, 2008, 09:34:26 AM
looking at all the pics, he should have been 4th and Shabaz 3rd

Crazy physique on Shabaz !!!

huge delts and arms
Title: Re: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: KillerMonk on September 02, 2008, 09:36:21 AM
David Henry is pound for pound a top BB his salvation is the 202 class

Politics in judging is sickening.
Title: Re: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: Steve Namat on September 02, 2008, 09:43:30 AM
Well, I just wanted the 5th place to qualify to the 202 Showdown at the Olympia.

But if Jaroslav (out of shape) placed 3rd...than I should be the 2nd after Henry (clear winner).


But by now...I don't care...  ;D
Title: Re: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: Stavios on September 02, 2008, 09:46:56 AM
Well, I just wanted the 5th place to qualify to the 202 Showdown at the Olympia.

But if Jaroslav (out of shape) placed 3rd...than I should be the 2nd after Henry (clear winner).


But by now...I don't care...  ;D

I don't think you should have beated Flex because he was just too shredded, but you could have been third or 4th.

Jaroslav was out of the top 6 in my book.

but the other guys in the top 5 were spot on, you can't really complain about the placing for these guys.  it was close
Title: Re: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: Steve Namat on September 02, 2008, 09:55:44 AM
I don't think you should have beated Flex because he was just too shredded, but you could have been third or 4th.

Jaroslav was out of the top 6 in my book.

but the other guys in the top 5 were spot on, you can't really complain about the placing for these guys.  it was close
You're maybe right.  ;)

I just can't understand the judging.



In the top6...

-Horvath was out of shape and placed 3rd.

-Lewis was the most shredded and placed 2nd.

-Only two competitors had the total package Henry and myself. Henry have better upper body, I have better legs.


And of course there were Jackson and Shabazz...placed 4th and 5th...


What was the judges strategy?  :D
Title: Re: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: Stavios on September 02, 2008, 10:02:00 AM
here is how I had it

Henry
Lewis
Shabaz
Namat
Jackson


I don't think anyone was close with Henry, but the five guys listed here were top notch

I think it you were a little drier (like 2-3 pounds less), your condition would have been just as good as henry and lewis.

nobody will deny you if you outcondition everybody, maybe be more conservative with the carb loading ?
Title: Re: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: The Wizard on September 02, 2008, 10:07:58 AM
here is how I had it

Henry
Lewis
Shabaz
Namat
Jackson


I don't think anyone was close with Henry, but the five guys listed here were top notch

I think it you were a little drier (like 2-3 pounds less), your condition would have been just as good as henry and lewis.

nobody will deny you if you outcondition everybody, maybe be more conservative with the carb loading ?

Shouldn't be that way - If so, meet next year's winner!!
Title: Re: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: Option D on September 02, 2008, 10:10:30 AM
guy in middle=last
Title: Re: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: lvtolft on September 02, 2008, 10:19:46 AM
here is how I had it

Henry
Lewis
Shabaz
Namat
Jackson


I don't think anyone was close with Henry, but the five guys listed here were top notch

I think it you were a little drier (like 2-3 pounds less), your condition would have been just as good as henry and lewis.

nobody will deny you if you outcondition everybody, maybe be more conservative with the carb loading ?

I really think Namat looked better than Shabaz. Why do you think he was better?
Title: Re: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: wes on September 02, 2008, 01:16:08 PM
I`d say you deserved 2nd. place Steve..............great physique!!

Keep on pumping, and don`t get discouraged dude.
Title: Re: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: QuakerOats on September 02, 2008, 01:18:25 PM
i didn't realize how damn short Shabazz was until i looked at that picture again. :o dude looks 5'1".
Title: Re: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: leighton on September 02, 2008, 01:26:55 PM
Guys your looking at one pic...theres so many people saying this..........Steve should of place in top 5 at both shows in my eyes and im a judge but NO way touched top 3!

Roc should of placed 3rd at Tampa he got screwed!
NO WAY Steve Namat beat these Top 2 guys below-
David Henry
Flex Lewis
Title: Re: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: QuakerOats on September 02, 2008, 01:28:32 PM
Flex has a way too narrow back to finish that high, Steve's back has to be wider than that.
Title: Re: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: MAXX on September 02, 2008, 01:33:07 PM
i agree. atleast top 3. judging from that pic 1'st place.
Title: Re: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: TechnoViking on September 03, 2008, 12:01:28 AM
You may have to lick toads...And by toads i mean judges ballz before the show...
Title: Re: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: marcus on September 03, 2008, 12:05:00 AM
Wow Henry looks fantastic here.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=231893.0;attach=271722;image)
Title: Re: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: pellius on September 03, 2008, 02:56:49 AM
i think david henry has "promoted" himself more behind the scenes than steve.

Truth. It's really not about the best physique. Often it's so close at this level. I think Steve is better than David but they are both great and then it's almost a coin toss and personal preference. At this level then it's about networking, getting known, marketing yourself, trying to develop relationships with the judges. Dave's the bigger name. It sucks. But it seems like it's always been like that. That's how Arnold won in 1980, Dorian won with half a bicep, Ronnie won in 2001 and how Jay won last year. They're the bigger name.

I don't know where Steve lives but it would help if he were in Southern Cali. Train at Gold's and meet the photographers and get in the mags. How else does Putnam get his face plastered all over the place when he's not even in Steve's league? Then once you get a name and win then you can move to Vegas or where ever and live your life.

I mean, I've never really heard of Steve except on this board and when I look at the guy and see what he must put himself through to get in that kind of condition it must suck to be place so unfairly low. Sometimes I wonder how this sport survives. 
Title: Re: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: calfzilla on September 03, 2008, 04:01:02 AM
I would have him at no worse than 3rd. 
Title: Re: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: Steve Namat on September 03, 2008, 06:49:23 AM
Well, maybe in 2009 I can achieve the plan to move to the States. I don't know yet where and how...but I know that my opportunitis won't be better if I stay in Hungary.
Title: Re: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: nicky.smth on September 03, 2008, 08:12:23 AM
You could definitely make the argument that Namat should have finished 2nd..
Title: Re: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: gymguy on September 03, 2008, 10:21:21 AM
The way I saw it.  the outcome should have been:
1.David Henry
2.Steve Namet
3.Flex
Title: Re: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: jaejonna on September 03, 2008, 10:22:41 AM
Good job Steve , your a winner in my book
Title: Re: VISUAL PROOF OF WHY THE JUDGING IS MESSED UP!!
Post by: 240 is Back on September 03, 2008, 10:26:11 AM
Tampa 202 was stacked though... Horvath, Jackson were both very very good.  Tricky's posing brought the place down, and horvath was big.

Flex Lewis has the crowd loving him, and legs better than David Henry.

David Henry's upper body was 4-dimensional though... nobody was touching him.

If Flex and Henry jump to heavyweights when they stop letting guys do the crossover, Namat could be top 3 in the 202s.

Also IIRC, his posing very professional and tight, but nothing fun and exciting.