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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: m8 on September 05, 2008, 04:35:34 AM
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Top 3 without a doubt.
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Come on, look at them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Almost at this level.
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Almost at this level.
Yates looks great in that first shot.
Grainy.
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Darriem Charles and Johnnie Jackson have the smallest calves that I have seen on a pro BB'er
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Darriem Charles and Johnnie Jackson have the smallest calves that I have seen on a pro BB'er
What about Big Ron?
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Look at those fucking toothpicks!!
My calves are awful and I'd say they're bigger than Ron's pre-synthol...
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Dexter and Johnnie Jackson
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King Tamali def.
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Posting Yates is funny because he is probably top 5 calves of all time and they are still huge. Even with 3 grams of test a week and a shit load of synthol Ronnie couldn't build his calves. Pathetic.
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Ronnie is also standing beside two guys who are known for having very large calves, Paul Dillett and Vince Taylor. I've seen Dillett in person in 1994 and his calves were the size of footballs.
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Darriem Charles and Johnnie Jackson have the smallest calves that I have seen on a pro BB'er
JOJ has by far TEH WORST CALVES ON A PRO BB'ER
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Ronnie is also standing beside two guys who are known for having very large calves, Paul Dillett and Vince Taylor. I've seen Dillett in person in 1994 and his calves were the size of footballs.
True, both had great great calves (although pretty far from the caliber of Dorian's) but even if you take them out of the picture Ronnie's are truly pathetic (this is 1994)
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True, both had great great calves (although pretty far from the caliber of Dorian's) but even if you take them out of the picture Ronnie's are truly pathetic (this is 1994)
I wouldn't say Dilletts are "far from the caliber of Dorians". They may not be as striated as dorians were but they were absolutely enormous and shapely. Dillett was about 10 feet away when he walked past me in 94 and what stood out most was the size of his thighs, hamstrings and calves - and that says alot because he's mostly known for his enormous upperbody, but I would say his calves are equal in circumference to Dorians, but not quite as detailed.
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I wouldn't say Dilletts are "far from the caliber of Dorians". They may not be as striated as dorians were but they were absolutely enormous and shapely. Dillett was about 10 feet away when he walked past me in 94 and what stood out most was the size of his thighs, hamstrings and calves - and that says alot because he's mostly known for his enormous upperbody, but I would say his calves are equal in circumference to Dorians, but not quite as detailed.
dillets calves are right up there with dorian's and i would'nt say dorian has dillet on shape/detail/striations either
out of mattarazzo, dillet and dorian from what ive seen i think dorians had the least detail/crispness
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hahah.... dorian's calves foook
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mad mike's ......cartoon like.............
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mad mike's ......cartoon like.............
I think Mike might have the advantage , but Yates is very close
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dillets calves are right up there with dorian's and i would'nt say dorian has dillet on shape/detail/striations either
out of mattarazzo, dillet and dorian from what ive seen i think dorians had the least detail/crispness
Agreed, Dillet's calves were close, thighs were better. Then Dillet kills Yates from most other angles everywhere else LOL
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Agreed, Dillet's calves were close, thighs were better. Then Dillet kills Yates from most other angles everywhere else LOL
Dillett never killed Yates , he couldn't kill Shawn Ray nevermind Yates lol ;)
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I think Mike might have the advantage , but Yates is very close
hahha thats what i like to hear.... i thought u would keep it real....
im a big dorian fan.... but like u said i think mikes just edging dorian here
im thinkin dorians might measure more but theres no real way to tell....
what about nasser..... he had some big arsed calves..... whats the verdict on nasser hell of a synthol body's calves..... they been tampered with ?
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Agreed, Dillet's calves were close, thighs were better. Then Dillet kills Yates from most other angles everywhere else LOL
sorry but dillet diddddddd not kill yates from most angles.......
if dillet could pose like flex or levrone or ray then he could have beaten dorian in more poses
fuk if dillet could actually spread his lats instead of contracting his traps during a lat spread he woulda done a whole lot better
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Top 3 without a doubt.
Not on a pro, but on a Mr.Olympia, yes.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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judging by the fade haircut and 210 pound physique i'm guessing that's circa 1993.
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It's funny how the Yates stalkers go totally off topic when the thread is about shitty calves on a BBer, which Ronnie Coleman does. Some people really need to get a life.
Ronnie, the genetic human to beat all, couldn't even build calves. That's sad. You can't say it's race because Dickerson, Dillet, Taylor and Ray all built quality calves.
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It's funny how the Yates stalkers go totally off topic when the thread is about shitty calves on a BBer, which Ronnie Coleman does. Some people really need to get a life.
Ronnie, the genetic human to beat all, couldn't even build calves. That's sad. You can't say it's race because Dickerson, Dillet, Taylor and Ray all built quality calves.
it is race....... ;)
well generally/ on average black guys do not have the full muscle shape... they dont have muscle tissue sprouting right off the achilles tendon... like dorian or mattarazo....
black guys calves seem to rarely tie in very low and they never seem to develop width ...and width is wanted as low on the calf as poss...and because of this their calves seem to grow in depth and thickness from front to back(ronnie dex JOJ )
look at ray and cormier high calves but with a bit of width
overall black guys seem to lack seperation and full muscle bellies in the calves...with most guys its hard to make out seperation between the two main muscles in the calves.
monstercalves 8)
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it is race....... ;)
well generally/ on average black guys do not have the full muscle shape... they dont have muscle tissue sprouting right off the achilles tendon... like dorian or mattarazo....
black guys calves seem to rarely tie in very low and they never seem to develop width ...and width is wanted as low on the calf as poss...and because of this their calves seem to grow in depth and thickness from front to back(ronnie dex JOJ )
look at ray and cormier high calves but with a bit of width
overall black guys seem to lack seperation and full muscle bellies in the calves...with most guys its hard to make out seperation between the two main muscles in the calves.
monstercalves 8)
Maybe it's just me but explosive athletes, like FB players, seem to have big calves regardless of race. Now, they are not all equal but I've seen plenty of black dudes weighing 30 pounds or less than Coleman and have bigger calves. Arnold had shitty calves too but beat them into growth. Maybe Ronnie should have worked harder on calves.
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sorry but dillet diddddddd not kill yates from most angles.......
if dillet could pose like flex or levrone or ray then he could have beaten dorian in more poses
fuk if dillet could actually spread his lats instead of contracting his traps during a lat spread he woulda done a whole lot better
Not when all things are considered , density & dryness are two areas Yates stands alone two area's Dillet couldn't compete in , he had a better natural base but you have to consider everything
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Not when all things are considered , density & dryness are two areas Yates stands alone two area's Dillet couldn't compete in , he had a better natural base but you have to consider everything
yep....
better base .....and structure
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yep....
better base .....and structure
Yeah if you don't have the density & dryness to match that and the ability to effectively pose and present your physique to ites best advantage you have nothing , many guys had a great structure & base but could never tie everything together , you may be able to get away with your genetics only in the Canadian championships but when you hit the pros you better be prepared
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Top 3 without a doubt.
No, that honor would belong too Tony Pearson.
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Better natural base....
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Someone correct me if I am wrong, but wasnt Dillet already a giant, a football player, before bodybuilding? While yates was quite average, maybe even 'small', before bodybuilding?
...and when i say 'bodybuilding' I do in fact mean steroids.
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Yeah if you don't have the density & dryness to match that and the ability to effectively pose and present your physique to ites best advantage you have nothing , many guys had a great structure & base but could never tie everything together , you may be able to get away with your genetics only in the Canadian championships but when you hit the pros you better be prepared
yep..... totally agree......
posing is a big big thing.....
dorian was very good......he was good at displaying what he had and keeping it simple and business like....making sure to hide his weak points as much as poss but still look as good as he could in all the mandatoriies
when thinkin about good posers u tend to think about ray flex levrone taylor....
because charisma and rythm buut if u ggo on up the ladder again u get guys that start dancing and moving about and this is not helping them.... its allowin the judges to see them from even more angles, and from the majority of those angles they dont show off their strong points
the fucked up thing is.... more and more guys are turning pro that cant fuckin pose
guys should be anylising posing like they do with diet/nutrition, and training methods
it amazes me how people neglect this big thing...
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Better natural base....
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Someone correct me if I am wrong, but wasnt Dillet already a giant, a football player, before bodybuilding? While yates was quite average, maybe even 'small', before bodybuilding?
...and when i say 'bodybuilding' I do in fact mean steroids.
If he was playing football that means he was already on steroids
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Better natural base....
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Someone correct me if I am wrong, but wasnt Dillet already a giant, a football player, before bodybuilding? While yates was quite average, maybe even 'small', before bodybuilding?
...and when i say 'bodybuilding' I do in fact mean steroids.
yep thats what we're sayin sweetheart ;)
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Not on a pro, but on a Mr.Olympia, yes.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Show me worse on any pro. :-\
Johnnie Jackson is pretty close though.
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Show me worse on any pro. :-\
Johnnie Jackson is pretty close though.
JOJ = worst
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mad mike's ......cartoon like.............
All Peanut Butter.
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Ron and Flex had NO Calves.
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Agreed, Dillet's calves were close, thighs were better. Then Dillet kills Yates from most other angles everywhere else LOL
you posted a show of yates not even flexing.
lol
dillet said that yates in 95 was the greatest sight he witnessed on a bbing stage - it was from may flex 1998.
if you want me to post paul's quote, i'd be glad to own you as ususal.
this has nothing to do with race, so don't even bother pulling your race card out.
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It's funny how the Yates stalkers go totally off topic when the thread is about shitty calves on a BBer, which Ronnie Coleman does. Some people really need to get a life.
Ronnie, the genetic human to beat all, couldn't even build calves. That's sad. You can't say it's race because Dickerson, Dillet, Taylor and Ray all built quality calves.
I'm still laughing at how they have to take a pic from 1992 to do it... ::)
remember the dorian threads about his arms and most muscular? they used shots from ALL years of his career. LOL
granted, ronnies' calves always sucked, but as he grew they got bigger too.
at his peak, they were not any smaller than most other pros:
look for yourselves:
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Dexter Jackson is right up there with the worst calves
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Dexter Jackson is right up there with the worst calves
in 99 dex s were twice as big as they are today
i dont know if it was synthol but i guess it was
its realy true 99.999% of BB are using it at any point in their career
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I notice a few of the idiot dorian nuthuggers love to insist ronnie injected his calves at some point in his career.
now, this has been thoroughly disproven with pics a billion times before ( ::))
but I ask again: show us the before and after synthol shots.
it would have been pretty damn obvious.
show us how ronnie's calves balloned up in size from the injections.
and I will then show you with pics how this didnt happen... 8) ::)
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I notice a few of the idiot dorian nuthuggers love to insist ronnie injected his calves at some point in his career.
now, this has been thoroughly disproven with pics a billion times before ( ::))
but I ask again: show us the before and after synthol shots.
it would have been pretty damn obvious.
show us how ronnie's calves balloned up in size from the injections.
and I will then show you with pics how this didnt happen... 8) ::)
Just like your PHOTOSHOPPED pics are real too LMFAO ;)
Ronnie's calves are injected with either synthol or escaline like Levrone .
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Both have bigger calves than Ronnie !
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Everyone knows arms are more important. Some of the smallest and fugliest arms ever to grace an Olympia stage. Here being dominated on side-tri by Levrone.
Coleman's calves lookin good in comparison.
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Everyone knows arms are more important. Some of the smallest and fugliest arms ever to grace an Olympia stage. Here being dominated on side-tri by Levrone.
Coleman's calves lookin good in comparison.
lmfao dominated you're such a fan-boy , everyone knows the WHOLE PACKAGE is more important and calves can seen from every angle biceps can't
same contest and here is Kevin and Shawn getting DOMINATED by Yates which is why he won
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Diesel is dogging them in that pic. Look at gay-ass Porter in the background!
No doubt !
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I'm still laughing at how they have to take a pic from 1992 to do it... ::)
remember the dorian threads about his arms and most muscular? they used shots from ALL years of his career. LOL
granted, ronnies' calves always sucked, but as he grew they got bigger too.
at his peak, they were not any smaller than most other pros:
look for yourselves:
I don't know why you guys plague the boards with arguing over two old body builders that don't compete. I am completely unbiased but how can ANYBODY argue that Dorian looks better that Ronnie. Seriously, I am totally unbiased I don't care about either, but Ronnie is in another league. Dorian doesn't come remotely close.
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I don't know why you guys plague the boards with arguing over two old body builders that don't compete. I am completely unbiased but how can ANYBODY argue that Dorian looks better that Ronnie. Seriously, I am totally unbiased I don't care about either, but Ronnie is in another league. Dorian doesn't come remotely close.
It could be worse we could be arguing about material items we've accumulated ;) , at least this is on topic!
and its not a matter of anyone saying Dorian looks ' better ' than Ronnie its a matter of who would beat who at their respective bests in a contest using the IFBB judging criteria and acordining to that Ronnie is most certainly not in another league
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It could be worse we could be arguing about material items we've accumulated ;) , at least this is on topic!
and its not a matter of anyone saying Dorian looks ' better ' than Ronnie its a matter of who would beat who at their respective bests in a contest using the IFBB judging criteria and acordining to that Ronnie is most certainly not in another league
I'm not going to get into this because it's Saturday and I'm not spending it arguing about Ronnie or Dorian, I'd rather be driving my Cayman. ;)
For the recored though man seriouly, Ronnie is so much better than Dorian. What is their to argue?
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Everyone knows arms are more important. Some of the smallest and fugliest arms ever to grace an Olympia stage. Here being dominated on side-tri by Levrone.
Coleman's calves lookin good in comparison.
It SHOULD all be important.....or just do away with the symmetry round.
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I'm not going to get into this because it's Saturday and I'm not spending it arguing about Ronnie or Dorian, I'd rather be driving my Cayman. ;)
For the recored though man seriouly, Ronnie is so much better than Dorian. What is their to argue?
That's the myth , yet Ronnie has stated on a few occasions he doesn't think he could've beaten Yates at his best so it's obviously a lot closer than what you think
Like most Cayman drivers you'll be doing 70 on the highway ;)
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lmfao dominated you're such a fan-boy , everyone knows the WHOLE PACKAGE is more important and calves can seen from every angle biceps can't
same contest and here is Kevin and Shawn getting DOMINATED by Yates which is why he won
Shawn should have beat Yates on more than one occation. That one too.
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Shawn should have beat Yates on more than one occation. That one too.
Never , he lacked a massive part of the judging criteria muscular bulk 205 pounds isn't beating 260 pounds
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That's the myth , yet Ronnie has stated on a few occasions he doesn't think he could've beaten Yates at his best so it's obviously a lot closer than what you think
Like most Cayman drivers you'll be doing 70 on the highway ;)
I'm not going to argue that, says me and my 3 speeding tickets.
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I'm not going to argue that, says me and my 3 speeding tickets.
whats the highest ticket?
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whats the highest ticket?
We use kms 160kms in a 100. I challenged it in court as I do all of mine, and got reduced to 125. My insurance is disgustingly high for one more year.
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I am completely unbiased but how can ANYBODY argue that Dorian looks better that Ronnie. Seriously, I am totally unbiased I don't care about either, but Ronnie is in another league. Dorian doesn't come remotely close.
they argue it because they are utterly retarded and have no fucking clue how the sport works, how physiques are properly judged etc etc.
they are morons.
thankfully, its only a few of them who are that stupid.
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they argue it because they are utterly retarded and have no fucking clue how the sport works, how physiques are properly judged etc etc.
they are morons.
thankfully, its only a few of them who are that stupid.
lmfao this coming from the ignorant dummy who claimed Dorian lost in 93 and Ronnie dominated in 2001 LMFAO you don't know jack shit about competitive bodybuilding and that's proof positive