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It's cute right now, isn't it?
But just wait until President Obama decides he doesn't have to answer a single Q for 8 years either.
Lawyers, Troopergate, and Questions
By Reed Hundt - September 6, 2008, 7:05AM
"This week, seven key witnesses informed Mr. Branchflower through their attorneys that they would not provide depositions. Their depositions, which had been agreed to and scheduled earlier with Mr. Branchflower, were cancelled within the last 72 hours."
So isn't there anyone with investigatory power, or even just lawyerly or reportorial skills, who could inquire into exactly how all these witnesses to "troopergate" happened to obtain lawyers and then all follow the exact same tactic in the same 72 hours? Who are their lawyers; who is paying their lawyers? And many other questions that follow.
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Conspiracy right? /yawn
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We need Greg Palast on the job, ...if he isn't already :P
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You need to learn to put a source to that!
Yes, it is cute. Just keep putting out the BS, it only secures McCains presidency that much further. Liberalism is a terrible thing Rob, you need help!
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Who cares?
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Who cares?
I thought the Dems would. They are always wanting to help and protect people, this trooper tasered his stepson who is 10, but Democrats agreed not to protect the boy but instead put politics first and go after Palin's kids a down syndrome baby, and a pregnant teenager. ::)
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He drank beer in his cruiser, he tasered his own son....tasered!!! Antbody here been tasered, I have, it sucks and I'm 220 plus and I knew it was coming. If she had'nt fired him, u idiots would be screaming about that. 240 as much as u try, once people heard about the beer and tasering...it was over.
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He drank beer in his cruiser, he tasered his own son....tasered!!! Antbody here been tasered, I have, it sucks and I'm 220 plus and I knew it was coming. If she had'nt fired him, u idiots would be screaming about that. 240 as much as u try, once people heard about the beer and tasering...it was over.
brutal honest truth 240 and the other left wing nuts on this board would have started 55 threads in a single day about it
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He drank beer in his cruiser, he tasered his own son....tasered!!! Antbody here been tasered, I have, it sucks and I'm 220 plus and I knew it was coming. If she had'nt fired him, u idiots would be screaming about that. 240 as much as u try, once people heard about the beer and tasering...it was over.
brutal knowledge of the case.
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In 2006, state investigators found Wooten guilty of "a significant pattern of judgment failures," including using a Taser on his 10-year-old stepson and drinking beer while operating a state trooper vehicle. Wooten was suspended for 10 days as "a last chance to take corrective action."
Speaking Thursday to CNN's Drew Griffin and Kathleen Johnston, Wooten gave his account of the Taser incident but denied ever drinking while driving.
He said that he was a new Taser instructor, and his stepson was asking him about the equipment. "I didn't shoot him with live, you know, actual live cartridge," Wooten said.
Instead, he said, he hooked his stepson up to a training aid "with little clips. And, you know, the Taser was activated for less than a second, which would be less than what you would get if you touched an electric fence. ... It was as safe as I could possibly make it."
He said his stepson was on the living room floor surrounded by pillows, that he "was bragging about it," and that the family laughed about it.
Asked whether it was a dumb decision, Wooten told CNN, "absolutely."
The 2006 report called the incident an example of "extremely poor judgment," and noted that he has been trained in "the risks associated with use of the weapon on a child."
Wooten insists he has been "under a microscope, and everything I did was heavily scrutinized at the time."
The father of three, who was married four times, told CNN, "I'm trying to move on and be the best dad I can to my children. Be the best trooper that I can be. You know, I love my job. I love this state."
He added that McCain's choice of Palin as his running mate was "absolutely wonderful for the state of Alaska."
As reported by CNN. Brutal knowledge of an event as reported by a major news outlet, since I wasn't there and don't quote obscure CT websites as news.
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i love it how people draw conclusions before the investigation is complete ;)
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Ur fucking kidding me right............dude all u and most of the people on here do is jump jump jump...christ we should award u guys airborne wings.
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Ur fucking kidding me right............dude all u and most of the people on here do is jump jump jump...christ we should award u guys airborne wings.
hey, some of it has been right, some has been wrong. sorry for those things which weren't accurate.
her hubby spent almost a decade as a member of a fringe political separist group. This is the truth by alaskan state records. i got that one right...
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Sure and while it took the media 2 weeks to dredge that up, they still haven't run with the Ayers crap or had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the Rev wright stuff. Nope no lib media there. And whats true about Pallin exactly.
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Sure and while it took the media 2 weeks to dredge that up, they still haven't run with the Ayers crap or had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the Rev wright stuff. Nope no lib media there. And whats true about Pallin exactly.
FOX mentions Ayers several times per day.
Rush lied about the whitey tape and its release date to help with fundraising. It never materialized.
What's true about palin? Her hubby belonged to an alaskan separist party. This is a fact. Not lib reporting, AP reporting. He was registered with that party from 95 til 02.
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Yeah so......and Limbaugh never thought the tape was true.
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FOX mentions Ayers several times per day.
Rush lied about the whitey tape and its release date to help with fundraising. It never materialized.
What's true about palin? Her hubby belonged to an alaskan separist party. This is a fact. Not lib reporting, AP reporting. He was registered with that party from 95 til 02.
LOL and the rest of the slanderous shit you posted on here as truth???? not true? are you admitting that you jumped the gun on all that shit?
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The campaign of Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., likes to herald the independence of its new running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.
Officials of the Alaskan Independence Party say that Palin was once so independent, she and her husband were once member of their party, which, since the 1970s, has been pushing for a legal vote for Alaskans to decide whether or not residents of the 49th state can secede from the United State.
And while McCain's motto -- as seen in a new TV ad -- is "Country First," the AIP's motto is the exact opposite -- "Alaska First -- Alaska Always."
After refraining from commenting on the charge for a day, the McCain campaign on Tuesday asserted that Palin was never a member of the AIP, and
Lynette Clark, the chairman of the AIP, told ABC News on Monday that Palin and her husband Todd were members in 1994, even attending the 1994 statewide convention in Wasilla. Clark was AIP secretary at the time.
This, it should be noted, does not square with official records.
Gail Fenumiai, director of the Alaska Division of Elections, tells ABC News that regardless of the impression given to members of the Alaskan Independence Party, "Gov. Sarah Palin first registered to vote in the state in May 1982 as a Republican, and she has not changed her party affiliate with the Division of Elections since that time."
Clark on Tuesday night said that she had been mistaken.
But for whatever reason, Clark thought that in 1994 Palin was a kindred spirit.
"We are a state's rights party," says Clark, a self-employed goldminer. The AIP has "a plank that challenges the legality of the Alaskan statehood vote as illegal and in violation of United Nations charter and international law."
She says it's not accurate to describe the party as secessionist -- they just want a vote, she says, adding that the members of the AIP hold different opinions on what Alaska should be.
"My own separate opinion as an individual is that we should be an independent nation," Clark says. Others in the AIP "believe that being a commonwealth would be a good avenue to follow." Some advocate statehood -- but a fuller statehood than exists now.
She doesn't know what Palin's position was.
"It never came up in conversation," Clark recalls. "But ...our platform was right under her nose."
Earlier this year, Palin sent a video message to the AIP for its annual convention, where AIP vice chair George Clark told the small crowd that Palin "was an AIP member before she got the job as a mayor of a small town –- that was a non-partisan job. But you get along to go along -– she eventually joined the Republican Party, where she had all kinds of problems with their ethics, and well, I won’t go into that. She also had about an 80 percent approval rating, and is pretty well sympathetic to her former membership."
A day after ABC News requested a response from Palin as to whether she was ever a member of the AIP, McCain campain spox Brian Rogers told ABC News that Clark's "allegations are false."
"Governor Palin has been a registered Republican since 1982," Rogers says, providing voter registration documentation showing her to be a Republican. "As you know, if she changed her registration, there would have been some record of it. There isn’t."
Rogers says that Palin didn’t attend the AIP convention in 1994, "but she visited them when they had their convention in Wasilla in 2000 as a courtesy since she was mayor."
When asked if Palin ever identified herself as a member of the AIP, Rogers said, "No, she's a lifelong Republican."
The AIP platform states that the purpose of the party is to "seek the complete repatriation of the public lands, held by the federal government, to the state and people of Alaska in conformance with Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17, of the federal constitution ... To prohibit all bureaucratic regulations and judicial rulings purporting to have the effect of law, except that which shall be approved by the elected legislature ... To support the privatization of government services ...”
Walter Hickel, a former Republican governor, was elected to the governorship in 1990 as an AIP member -- the third-largest party in Alaska -- with a plurality vote of 38.8%. A Seattle Post-Intelligencer story that year said that "Hickel is running with the Alaska Independence Party, a fringe group advocating that the 49th state declare itself a sovereign nation. But he's not a separatist; he's an opportunist: the Independence Party was the only 11th-hour ticket to the general election."
Hickel returned to the Republican Party in 1994; he endorsed Palin in her gubernatorial run in 2006. Subsequent AIP gubernatorial candidates did not fare as well as did Hickel, garnering less than 2 percent of the vote.
Lynette Clark says that Palin is "a fine individual. She's forthright and she puts Alaska first."
She is not a fan of McCain.
"I can't understand why in God's name she has aligned herself with a candidate who opposes the development of our republic and Alaska's resource wealth," Clark says.
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LOL and the rest of the slanderous shit you posted on here as truth???? not true? are you admitting that you jumped the gun on all that shit?
no. i'm admitting some was right, some was wrong, some is still quite unproven.
For people to say "troopergate is BS" when we haven't even heard witness depositions, is silly.
For people to say "the baby is hers" when a birth cert doesn't exist and all hospital recrds were scrubbed, is silly.
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Guess its not so clear cut......thats from ABC news.com
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HH6, that's a distraction post.
We're talking about her hubby. not her. Her hubby was a member for years.
she visited them in 2000, and again in 2008 and said they do important work.
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no. i'm admitting some was right, some was wrong, some is still quite unproven.
For people to say "troopergate is BS" when we haven't even heard witness depositions, is silly.
For people to say "the baby is hers" when a birth cert doesn't exist and all hospital recrds were scrubbed, is silly.
LOL ic but for you to treat them as true until ppl came out and discredited the story is not silly i guess?
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what has been proven true 240?
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HH6, that's a distraction post.
We're talking about her hubby. not her. Her hubby was a member for years.
she visited them in 2000, and again in 2008 and said they do important work.
Dude, they weren't members, u say they are because of an AP story, I say they're not because of an ABC news story quoting the people who run the party, SAYING THEY WEREN'T......which means it could all be bullshit. So stop jumping
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what has been proven true 240?
It has been proven without a doubt that her husband was registered from 1995 to 2002 in the party whose leader sayid horrible things about american, and among the party's goals was to secede from USA.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080902/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_palin_politics
ST. PAUL, Minn. - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's husband, Todd, twice registered as a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, a fierce states' rights group that wants to turn all federal lands in Alaska back to the state. Gail Fenumiai, director of the Alaska Division of Elections, said Todd Palin twice registered under the Alaskan Independence Party — in 1995 and 2000.
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Dude, they weren't members, u say they are because of an AP story, I say they're not because of an ABC news story quoting the people who run the party, SAYING THEY WEREN'T......which means it could all be bullshit. So stop jumping
Gail Fenumiai, director of the Alaska Division of Elections, said Todd Palin twice registered under the Alaskan Independence Party — in 1995 and 2000.
What say you?
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It has been proven without a doubt that her husband was registered from 1995 to 2002 in the party whose leader sayid horrible things about american, and among the party's goals was to secede from USA.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080902/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_palin_politics
ST. PAUL, Minn. - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's husband, Todd, twice registered as a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, a fierce states' rights group that wants to turn all federal lands in Alaska back to the state. Gail Fenumiai, director of the Alaska Division of Elections, said Todd Palin twice registered under the Alaskan Independence Party — in 1995 and 2000.
LOL ok so 1 fuking 1 out of all the BS you posted on her has been proven true?
which by the way when posted it was supposed to be HER being a part of the party and now its her husband.
Think you jumped the gun a little?
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I think I mentioned I don't care...u said they were members since 1994 or something, again wrong. If he is, so what? She's fired up the party, stealing votes from douchbag and doing her job to excite people. If it was ok with McCain its ok with me. Obama was tied to Wright and Ayers...Obama, not Biden.
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Obama was tied to Wright and Ayers...Obama, not Biden.
exactly
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i love it how people draw conclusions before the investigation is complete ;)
However, while doing this, she was having an affair and not noticing her 16-year old getting preggo and drinking liquor.
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240, you really need to just come out and admit your a pro planned parenthood, tree hugging, pro gay marriage supporting, soy protein guzzling, effiminate left wing troll. I have never seen someone who went out of their way to claim their alleged "independence" and that highlighted their life long voting record for republicans, go out of their way to post every non-sensical and meaningless article ever written that debases right wing politicans OR props up slimy liberals in my entire life. At least douchebags like Decker and most of the moderators here dont pretend to be anything but what they are, I can respect that- You on the other hand just look like a complete tool when you try to claim your neutral.
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240, you really need to just come out and admit your a pro planned parenthood, tree hugging, pro gay marriage supporting, soy protein guzzling, effiminate left wing troll. I have never seen someone who went out of their way to claim their alleged "independence" and that highlighted their life long voting record for republicans, go out of their way to post every non-sensical and meaningless article ever written that debases right wing politicans OR props up slimy liberals in my entire life. At least douchebags like Decker and most of the moderators here dont pretend to be anything but what they are, I can respect that- You on the other hand just look like a complete tool when you try to claim your neutral.
true like ive said many time if he would just come out and admit it id leave him alone but nope he still likes to keep up the facade
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240, you really need to just come out and admit your a pro planned parenthood, tree hugging, pro gay marriage supporting, soy protein guzzling, effiminate left wing troll. I have never seen someone who went out of their way to claim their alleged "independence" and that highlighted their life long voting record for republicans, go out of their way to post every non-sensical and meaningless article ever written that debases right wing politicans OR props up slimy liberals in my entire life. At least douchebags like Decker and most of the moderators here dont pretend to be anything but what they are, I can respect that- You on the other hand just look like a complete tool when you try to claim your neutral.
I'm anti-abortion.
I love guns.
I don't support gay marriage.
I believe soy lowers T levels.
Some neocon repubs hate me for my honesty. Some disagree with me because I admit the war is for oil when they seem to lack that courage. I support the war because i agree with our longterm energy and military goals... I just don't like the borrowing and pilferage. I guess desiring financial responsibility makes me a bad repub, huh?
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I'm anti-abortion.
I love guns.
I don't support gay marriage.
I believe soy lowers T levels.
Some neocon repubs hate me for my honesty. Some disagree with me because I admit the war is for oil when they seem to lack that courage. I support the war because i agree with our longterm energy and military goals... I just don't like the borrowing and pilferage. I guess desiring financial responsibility makes me a bad repub, huh?
Gotta agree there
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Gotta agree there
If Bush has said: "Look America, we want that Caspian oil. We've been in talks with the Taleban since 98, and they're gonna give it to Argentina instead of us... so we just gotta install a guy there. Also, Iraq is going to drop the dollar in 03, and that's going to mean China and Russia get a lot of oil control, and it's going to hurt us. I"m not going to let an attack happen, and I'm not going to lie to you about some imaginary WMD. I'm not going to borrow $4.5 tril during my administration to pay for it either. instead, I'm going to tax the rich (Don't worry, just buy oil and military stocks like haliburton and you'll more than make up for it) to pay for these two wars. I also want to hit Iran near the end of my term. Oil, again."
If Bush had said that, I'd have nothing but nice things to say. Instead, it was all about lies and borrowing.
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correct me if im wrong but are people trying to say palin tryed to fire the guy because he tasered his son?
amazing.
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I'm anti-abortion.
I love guns.
I don't support gay marriage.
I believe soy lowers T levels.
Some neocon repubs hate me for my honesty. Some disagree with me because I admit the war is for oil when they seem to lack that courage. I support the war because i agree with our longterm energy and military goals... I just don't like the borrowing and pilferage. I guess desiring financial responsibility makes me a bad repub, huh?
your anti abortion but support and defend a man who is pro abortion and slander a women who is against it
You are pro gun but support and defen a man who will undoubtedly take away gun rights
You are anti gay marriage but support and defend a man who supports gay marriage
And yes ive heard soy lowers T
Dersiring finaicial responsiblity doesnt make you anti republican, but the facts ive listed here do.
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your anti abortion but support and defend a man who is pro abortion and slander a women who is against it
You are pro gun but support and defen a man who will undoubtedly take away gun rights
You are anti gay marriage but support and defend a man who supports gay marriage
And yes ive heard soy lowers T
Dersiring finaicial responsiblity doesnt make you anti republican, but the facts ive listed here do.
I'm not voting Obambam. I'm voting Barr. I defend the truth. If someone is teasing obama because he "hates America", well, I tend to be annoyed. The man could be making a lot more $ in private law than in the senate. ANY senator loves their country.
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I'm not voting Obambam. I'm voting Barr. I defend the truth. If someone is teasing obama because he "hates America", well, I tend to be annoyed. The man could be making a lot more $ in private law than in the senate. ANY senator loves their country.
LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO defend the truth LMFAO :o ::)
you produce 55 threads in a day slandering palin with every made up shit for brains story that the far left bloggers can produce and have the nuts to say that you defend the truth...LMFAO hypocrisy at its absolute finest.
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I admit some of those reporrts were wrong. I'll be careful to write "XYZ reports..." from now on, so people don't get upset.
Can you ask the coach to apologize for selling the 'whitey tape' story here too?
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Ur fucking kidding me right............dude all u and most of the people on here do is jump jump jump...christ we should award u guys airborne wings.
Its a discussion forum, lucy.
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I admit some of those reporrts were wrong. I'll be careful to write "XYZ reports..." from now on, so people don't get upset.
Can you ask the coach to apologize for selling the 'whitey tape' story here too?
some? one was proven true and not even true b/c it was supposed to be her as the member of the party not her husband so actually none have been proven true.
Next time i see him post some shit on it i will, i wasnt really post on this board much at that time
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If Bush has said: "Look America, we want that Caspian oil. We've been in talks with the Taleban since 98, and they're gonna give it to Argentina instead of us... so we just gotta install a guy there. Also, Iraq is going to drop the dollar in 03, and that's going to mean China and Russia get a lot of oil control, and it's going to hurt us. I"m not going to let an attack happen, and I'm not going to lie to you about some imaginary WMD. I'm not going to borrow $4.5 tril during my administration to pay for it either. instead, I'm going to tax the rich (Don't worry, just buy oil and military stocks like haliburton and you'll more than make up for it) to pay for these two wars. I also want to hit Iran near the end of my term. Oil, again."
If Bush had said that, I'd have nothing but nice things to say. Instead, it was all about lies and borrowing.
Brutal truth of 8 yrs in 1 paragraph.
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I'm not voting Obambam. I'm voting Barr.
Quote from: 240 is Back on February 27, 2008, 05:23:53 PM
So I probably will vote dem.
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Hi, rep counter.
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I'm voting Barr.
Quote from: 240 is Back on March 24, 2008, 04:53:25 PM
I'm a republican. I'm voting for McCain despite his liberal leanings and the fact he almost left the Republican party in 2001.
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lol 240's only convictions are that he has none. Next week he will be advocating nader.