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Seven years and we still don't know who is responsible for the 9/11 attacks.
Haven't watched it yet, should be very interesting.
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watched it yesterday, it is very very very good.
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watched it yesterday, it is very very very good.
Thanks for posting it, I saw a trailer a while back and forgot about it.
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The thing is an hour and 42 min long...sum it up please.
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Thanks for posting it, I saw a trailer a while back and forgot about it.
IMO it's probably the best doc on the subject yet. It's hard to argue with since it's primarily made up of actual established knowns backed up by real reports, many of them from FOX NEWS :D
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The thing is an hour and 42 min long...sum it up please.
NO. watch it or don't, we care not :)
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Let me guess...Bin Laden didn't do it right, we did....
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Sit back and get ready to learn how members of the FBI had their investigations into Bin Laden obstructed and shut down, how the hijackers were trained at US bases, that military drills crippled our defense and facilitated the attacks, how the Shadow Government was actually activated that day, and much much more.
Never mind...seriously do these guys have anything better to do......
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Dylan Avery
Dylan Avery is the writer, director, and editor of the Loose Change films, is from Oneonta, New York, and currently lives in San Diego, California. After being denied admission twice by Purchase College's film school,[19] Avery planned to make a movie about a group of friends who discover the September 11, 2001 attacks were an "inside job". Along the way Avery himself stated that he had become convinced of this theory.[20][21]
Avery appeared on BBC's 9/11 Conspiracy Files in February 2007.
[edit] Korey Rowe
Korey Rowe is a producer of Loose Change. Rowe was born in Oneonta, New York. He is a former US soldier who served six months in Kandahar, Afghanistan and one year in Kuwait and Iraq. Rowe enlisted in the 101st Airborne Division in August 2001 and left in June 2005, then joining the production of Loose Change. On July 23, 2007, he was arrested at his home in Oneonta, New York, based on a military warrant charging him with felony desertion.[22] Two days later he was returned to his unit at Fort Campbell, Kentucky,[23] although he states that he received an honorable discharge and returned to uniform of his own accord, and that he is attempting to expunge his name completely from the system.[24]
Rowe was at the end of his active-duty enlistment in the summer of 2005 when he was told his unit would be re-deployed to Iraq. Because of stop-loss policy, soldiers may be kept beyond their normal tour of duty.[25] Rowe's unit, the 187th Infantry Regiment, was due to return to Iraq in August 2007, but was eventually granted release.
[edit] Jason Bermas
Jason Bermas is a graphic designer and producer of Loose Change who went to college in Oneonta, New York and currently lives in Austin, Texas. Jason Bermas also guest hosts The Alex Jones Show on the GCN network. Aside from film making he is also an activist who has demanded a new independent investigation into 9/11.
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These are ur sources...guys who have no inside info...speculation. They wanted to make a fiction movie and then began to believe there own bullshit. ::)
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wow, that was really good.
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HH6, that's a lot of typing for not watching it ;D Whatever makes you happy... I'll be glad to engage points with someone who watched it, but not with someone who hasn't. It's like fighting someone with darts in a pitch black room, no thanks.
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The thing is an hour and 42 min long...sum it up please.
If anyone needs to watch it, it's you.
Too much information to narrow down to a few words
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If anyone needs to watch it, it's you.
Too much information to narrow down to a few words
It would be very much impossible to do. :D
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Guys I've watched these things and its nothing new...come on. 3 kids decided that we did 911 or that our Intell did. What they did was snatch different things from all over the place and put them in a movie and make the fats fit. They have no inside info, no way to get it, aren't in the intel community or government. If this feeds the paranoid in this country, then fine.
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Guys I've watched these things and its nothing new...come on. 3 kids decided that we did 911 or that our Intell did. What they did was snatch different things from all over the place and put them in a movie and make the fats fit. They have no inside info, no way to get it, aren't in the intel community or government. If this feeds the paranoid in this country, then fine.
keep talking... I for one am not playing darts in the dark with you.
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Bin Laden didn't do it right, we did....
I knew it.
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Guys I've watched these things and its nothing new...come on. 3 kids decided that we did 911 or that our Intell did. What they did was snatch different things from all over the place and put them in a movie and make the fats fit. They have no inside info, no way to get it, aren't in the intel community or government. If this feeds the paranoid in this country, then fine.
Yeah, well this time it's different.
Instead of 3 kids, its 4 teenagers, and instead of snatching things from all over the place, they only snatched things from Fox, and cued in some music to fill the gaps, along with alot of questions that followed questions to make it sound, puzzling.
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Yeah, well this time it's different.
Instead of 3 kids, its 4 teenagers, and instead of snatching things from all over the place, they only snatched things from Fox, and cued in some music to fill the gaps, along with alot of questions that followed questions to make it sound, puzzling.
anyone who watches it will know that's not true. But why do you care? You guys aren't going to watch it.
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anyone who watches it will know that's not true. But why do you care? You guys aren't going to watch it.
I bought the soundtrack,....much more inspiring.
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So really.... who's the most recent culprit? Who planted the explosives?
1. The US government
2. The French
3. George Bush
4. Pixie Gnomes from Gilgamesh
5. The Neo-cons
6. The Israelies
7. The CIA
8. Sarah Palin
9. Bill O'Reilly
10. ???
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talk talk talk :) A lot of talk from people who won't even look
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So really.... who's the most recent culprit? Who planted the explosives?
1. The US government
2. The French
3. George Bush
4. Pixie Gnomes from Gilgamesh
5. The Neo-cons
6. The Israelies
7. The CIA
8. Sarah Palin
9. Bill O'Reilly
10. ???
Snow White and the seven dwarfs. Snow White had connections to Chicago, where she then meet an ex CIA operative who introduced her to an ex KGB agent that flew her to Africa where she started working in diamonds....did I mention however that Prescott Bush is the father of Snow White, who made money during WWII, and greeted the aliens from Area 51.
PS The dwarfs....you guessed it they were stooges....
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LOL... You guys made my point about you better than I could have. thanks :)
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Snow White and the seven dwarfs. Snow White had connections to Chicago, where she then meet an ex CIA operative who introduced her to an ex KGB agent that flew her to Africa where she started working in diamonds....did I mention however that Prescott Bush is the father of Snow White, who made money during WWII, and greeted the aliens from Area 51.
PS The dwarfs....you guessed it they were stooges....
Nice....
But you failed to address why, at 8:32AM on 9-1-01, if you look on the 38th floor of WTC-2 you can see Santa Clause wiping his aas with what appears to be a kilo of CIA sponsored cocaine from Iraq that was destined for the inner-cities. Well, you COULD see it if Donald Rumsfeld hadn't set up that smoke screen and initiated the positronic forcefield......
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you know what's funny... i tried to start a fight with a guy who once said we let 911 happen.
i talked shit and begged him to push me so i coudl smash his face in, for saying something so impossible.
as a history major, i knew that other nations used false flag attacks in the past to justify wars for resources. but no way we'd do that.
i was wrong.
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shit... at 40:00...
JOE BIDEN confirms paskistan was suppoting the taleban.
fuck... that's big.
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shit... at 40:00...
JOE BIDEN confirms paskistan was suppoting the taleban.
fuck... that's big.
oh yea, there's some really good stuff in here. Some of it I hadn't seen before. Very well put together.
How the people who called intelligence and law enforcement and were ignored. how about the chief of the visa department who states some of these terrorist guys were given visas for National Security issues over ruling his decision to deny. WOW... How about all the legit investigations into terrorist activities stopped over and over. How about the Fox reports on just how indepth Israeli activity was in 9/11 and in spying on America. Eye witnesses of Mossad agents celebrating, being detained and then the interviews on air where they admit to being here to document 9/11 go down. A possible total of 5 E4-B aircraft "The Doomsday Plane" 1 spoted over the white house and 2 in the sky above the WTC as the second plane hit. How about the video footage of the guy running into the front part of WTC7 that is supposed to be destroyed? Even the escalators were still working!!! Glass blown out and dust everywhere but the damage to the front we were told was there, was not there. On and on, this Doc is a huge hit.
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FOX NEWS is completely shitting on the official story.
I mean, brit hume is fucking destroying the official story.
unreal.
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FOX NEWS is completely shitting on the official story.
I mean, brit hume is fucking destroying the official story.
unreal.
I remember one of the threads back in General before political that got deleted for racism was largely based on the reporting from Carl Cameron from Fox News. They quieted that shit real fast and it was anti-semetic to raise the subject lol..
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i don't think a single person could watch that movie and still believe we didn't let it happen.
I mean, Bill OReilly talking about it... brit Hume... all the FOX news anchors, in the weeks afterwards, pointing out things.
Ari Fleischer admitting that sept 10th we finalized plans to take out the Taleban.
Fuckin' A.
FOX news making the case for it being an inside job. Unreal. They were the ones originally pushing this.
Unreal. I don't think anyone can watch this and come away still believing official story. Unreal. I've never seen a film like this.
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i don't think a single person could watch that movie and still believe we didn't let it happen.
I mean, Bill OReilly talking about it... brit Hume... all the FOX news anchors, in the weeks afterwards, pointing out things.
Ari Fleischer admitting that sept 10th we finalized plans to take out the Taleban.
Fuckin' A.
FOX news making the case for it being an inside job. Unreal. They were the ones originally pushing this.
Unreal. I don't think anyone can watch this and come away still believing official story. Unreal. I've never seen a film like this.
I think if any skeptics do watch, they'll stick to the story that they didn't watch it ;D
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I think if any skeptics do watch, they'll stick to the story that they didn't watch it ;D
The thing is that you don't understand is, your throwing away skepticsm by believing that this is the truth and that you hold an answer.
Often times you "Cters" are so emotionally involved in this, it's fixated in your brain where no other truth exists.
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The thing is that you don't understand is, your throwing away skepticsm by believing that this is the truth and that you hold an answer.
Often times you "Cters" are so emotionally involved in this, it's fixated in your brain where no other truth exists.
you got the wrong man... Even BB knows I call BS on as many CT as I believe. Faith is your game, not mine. Sorry to upset you.
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The thing is that you don't understand is, your throwing away skepticsm by believing that this is the truth and that you hold an answer.
Often times you "Cters" are so emotionally involved in this, it's fixated in your brain where no other truth exists.
You can't watch this movie and still believe the official story. You just can't. You have FOX news anchors - ANGRY - that the FBI had info on the hijackers ahead of time. You have OReilly wondering aloud just how deep the connection goes with the saudis. You have BIDEN admitting shit about Pakistan. You have FOX news destorying the official story on this video.
Huge, huge movie. youandme, you operate with facts, not emotion. You'll notice guys like me are emotional about this - its' because we were lifetime repubs who looked at all of this evidence and realized - shit - i gave them my vote, and they had all this shit planned out. This movie? Evidence.
If you watch it, you'll never feel as safe and content as you do right now. Ignorance is bliss, and sometimes i wish I could again be that eggheaded asshole who loved by guns, believed all CTs were nonsense, etc.
Don't watch it. Keep mocking what you don't understand, just as I did. I was a shitload more smile and bliss back then, right where you are now.
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I already watched a few of them, then I saw the holes, then I saw the makers of the films that questioned the original story patch those holes up and keep on trying.
Only thing is they keep on forgetting....a true consipiracy is one that cannot be proved....they are trying to prove it...
Now science has taken over and the "law of parsimoney" applies....
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the intro to this movie reminded me of this video
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Now science has taken over and the "law of parsimoney" applies....
WTF is the law of "parsimoney," dumbass? Is it related to parsley?
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I already watched a few of them, then I saw the holes, then I saw the makers of the films that questioned the original story patch those holes up and keep on trying.
Only thing is they keep on forgetting....a true consipiracy is one that cannot be proved....they are trying to prove it...
Now science has taken over and the "law of parsimoney" applies....
lol, that's a duck and cover if I ever saw one ;D It's cool youandme... We're so far into this, so many years have gone by, most people are embedded on the issue. It is what it is. There will be very few converts either way at this point. After the years, it reaches team mentality for most.
Oh and your statement on a true conspiracy is beyond silly. If a conspiracy could never be proven, we wouldn't have charges and convictions for conspiracy. It happens all the time. What we have here is a charge of conspiracy that will never be pursued legally. Does that make it wrong to publically discuss the case? Hell no...
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I already watched a few of them, then I saw the holes, then I saw the makers of the films that questioned the original story patch those holes up and keep on trying.
Only thing is they keep on forgetting....a true consipiracy is one that cannot be proved....they are trying to prove it...
Now science has taken over and the "law of parsimoney" applies....
Believe what you want to believe.
Never before have I seen the FOX anchors pissed off about the 911 attacks.
The early films were crap, sure. Lots of supposition and reaching. I took about 2 years off of watching any, until this one tonight. This is heads and shoulders above anything I've ever seen.
They're not trying to prove a conspiracy in this film by the way - they're simply showing the viewer glaring lies and contradictions in the official story, contradicted by govt evidence.
But like I said, don't watch it. pretend it's the same loose change crap from 2004. You'll feel like shit when you see some of these things. Sick to your fuckin stomach. An empty sadness.
Weird that you talk about liking science an parsimony, yet make a determination as to the goals and quality of this film based on "a few you already saw". For all the time you spend on politics and discussion, I thought you'd want the strongest understanding possible of thigns.
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lol, that's a duck and cover if I ever saw one ;D It's cool youandme... We're so far into this, so many years have gone by, most people are embedded on the issue. It is what it is. There will be very few converts either way at this point. After the years, it reaches team mentality for most.
Oh and your statement on a true conspiracy is beyond silly. If a conspiracy could never be proven, we wouldn't have charges and conviction for conspiracy. It happens all the time. What we have here is a charge of conspiracy that will never be pursued legally. Does that make it wrong to discuss publically discuss the case? Hell no...
Machivalli said that all men must fear the Prince for him to rool effektively.
It's the law of parsley.
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Believe what you want to believe.
Never before have I seen the FOX anchors pissed off about the 911 attacks.
The early films were crap, sure. Lots of supposition and reaching. I took about 2 years off of watching any, until this one tonight. This is heads and shoulders above anything I've ever seen.
They're not trying to prove a conspiracy in this film by the way - they're simply showing the viewer glaring lies and contradictions in the official story, contradicted by govt evidence.
But like I said, don't watch it. pretend it's the same loose change crap from 2004. You'll feel like shit when you see some of these things. Sick to your fuckin stomach. An empty sadness.
Weird that you talk about liking science an parsimony, yet make a determination as to the goals and quality of this film based on "a few you already saw". For all the time you spend on politics and discussion, I thought you'd want the strongest understanding possible of thigns.
They're definitely showing hardcore intelligence agency involvement at the center.
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Machivalli said that all men must fear the Prince for him to rool effektively.
It's the law of parsley.
His whole post was a little odd. lol
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not just that, but Biden and others ADMITTING pakis were involved with it. I mean, he's pissed about it too. Max Cleland, 911 commissioner, yelling on FOX news to a very eager bill oreilly about it.
It's unreal. I've never seen these angles of it. There are a LOT of senators who are pissed about it.
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His whole post was a little odd. lol
He is an insecure little twerp who thinks his Political Philosophy 101 course has made him into a getbig public intellectual.
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youandme, see if you can just drop the board animosity and watch the video without preconceived bias. Pretend you're in a court room reviewing material for determination. Forget everything and just approach it like you were looking at thugs involved in a conspiracy.
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youandme, see if you can just drop the board animosity and watch the video without preconceived bias. Pretend you're in a court room reviewing material for determination. Forget everything and just approach it like you were looking at thugs involved in a conspiracy.
He'll shit in his pants. Seriously.
He doesn't want to. He'll feel like major shit for a week after viewing this. Absolute fear, shock, and sadness. You have our leaders admitting what happened. Video, in their own words.
youandme, you seem like a happy guy. A little angry, but hey, who isn't? This shit will fuck you up.
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Youadope believes anything the oilmen's minions tell him.
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WTF is the law of "parsimoney," dumbass? Is it related to parsley?
haha well I'm pretty sure your backwoods bar exam did not have it on...oh wait you took it three tiems, you most likely can't even remember what was on it or how to practice law, haha.
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haha well I'm pretty sure your backwoods bar exam did not have it on...oh wait you took it three tiems, you most likely can't even remember what was on it or how to practice law, haha.
"hopes thread changes to a fight over bar exams" :D
Give it a shot youandme... I won't freak on you over this. Let's try it different this time. Watch it, we'll just talk about it and tone down the over the top rhetoric. I have no extra motive to convince you of anything. At this point there is really little to no chance anything will ever come of it anyway. No need to get bent over it.
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"hopes thread changes to a fight over bar exams" :D
Haha. he's trying to take a page out of Douche Mark's book.
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I already watched a few of them, then I saw the holes, then I saw the makers of the films that questioned the original story patch those holes up and keep on trying.
Only thing is they keep on forgetting....a true consipiracy is one that cannot be proved....they are trying to prove it...
Now science has taken over and the "law of parsimoney" applies....
wtf? ??? That's like saying I've already seen Gigli & Glitter, ...so I know The Dark Knight isn't worth seeing.
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Glitter was a fabulous movie.