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President Bush announced today that he'll withdraw only about 5% of the current 146,000-strong force in Iraq before he leaves office
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A better thread would be:
Did the war serve any purpose?
And before somebody posts the video again, I'm not interested in what a semi-literate wet behind the ears GI has to say about it.
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calmus, i'm looking fwd to your commentary as this clusterfvck of an election arrives.
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clusterfvck of an election
truer words were never spoken.
We've got massive inflationary pressure. Two restive world powers that would like to eat our lunch. An energy crisis on the horizon. A credit crisis that's already here. Radical Islam.
And what is it the American public cares about? SOme bullshit about taxes. That horse has bolted a long time ago (2001 to be precise when fucking idiot decided to put us over a trillion and a half dollars in the hole through his tax cuts.... before he started his insane crusades).
Some bullshit about "family values" and "hunting caribou"
On a related but funny note. Obama and the current head of Goldman Sachs have the same post-graduate degree. Only Obama's came with better grades. ;D
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tonight, the opening news story is obama's use of 'lipstick on a pig'.
Did he intend to insult millions of women?
Did mccain use it to describe hilary's healthcare plan earlier this year?
CNN, the world's leading news org, is opening with the lipstick story,.
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A better thread would be:
Did the war serve any purpose?
And before somebody posts the video again, I'm not interested in what a semi-literate wet behind the ears GI has to say about it.
Who has done much more in his young life then u ever have and is more important to this country and even more of a man then u. Let me know when ur balls drop and u decide to become a man. U claim to know so much about whats going on in Iraq etc....come on tough guy....join up and see yourself.
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tonight, the opening news story is obama's use of 'lipstick on a pig'.
Did he intend to insult millions of women?
HIS COMMENT WAS TO INSULT THE PALIN IDIOT WHO COMMENTED THAT SHE IS A PITBULL WITH LIPSTICK....
Did mccain use it to describe hilary's healthcare plan earlier this year?
HITLERY DOES NOT AND DID NOT EVEN SHOW CONCERN FOR THE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE DYING IN NEW YORK FROM THE TOXIC CLOUD FROM THE WORLD TRADE, WHERE SHE IS THE SENATOR. IF SHE CAN NOT BE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR HEALTH THEN HOW THE HELL COULD SHE BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE HEALTH OF THE ENTIRE NATION??? GOOD RIDDENCE TO HER...
CNN, the world's leading news org, is opening with the lipstick story,.
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Its not an issue but its a story and no matter where u are in the world, politics is the same. It would be the same in Iraq or the UK. One guy calls another guy a pig...its a story.
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Palin is kinda a pig though.
Did anyone see her on Greta last night? Local fox affiliate did a home interview with her 4 months ago.
Kinda a piggish house, kinda trashy. definitely added a trailer feel to her image.
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Its funny, if I said the same thing about Obama I'd be a racist.
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Its funny, if I said the same thing about Obama I'd be a racist.
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If obama's kitchen looked trashy and cluttered, you could say the same thing.
For me, she lost a lot of the glamour and shine that I believed she had.
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I could say alot about Obama......I choose not to because there is plenty above board things to nail him on.
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Who has done much more in his young life then u ever have and is more important to this country and even more of a man then u. Let me know when ur balls drop and u decide to become a man. U claim to know so much about whats going on in Iraq etc....come on tough guy....join up and see yourself.
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Yeah I know...whats it like to be worthless.
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HAHAHAHAHAAH!!!!
Did the surge work? Ah, why don't you ask Obama who in his interview with Bill O'Reilly admitted that it has worked. Of course, he stopped short of admitting he was wrong in voting against it, but he said that it has GREATLY helped the situation in Iraq.
Now, just because you want all 100% American troops to be withdrawn RIGHT NOW doesn't mean that the surge did not work. By that logic, then we never won WWII since we still got troops in Germany and Japan. In fact, we still have troops in the Balkans. Why would it be any different in Iraq?
If you still have any doubt, just look at the NY Times, all the liberal media who have stopped reporting and writing stories about how we are losing the war. Why have they stopped comparing this military situation with the Vietnam War? John Murtha has been pretty quiet too. Why is that?
Listen, just admit that you, along with all the other Democrat politicians (who voted to go to war with Iraq), were wrong in stating that this was another Vietnam. You know, the only war that USA lost and that DEMOCRATS escalated and got us into. The same war that claimed over 58,000 American soldiers. Now that was a clusterfuck!
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HAHAHAHAHAAH!!!!
Did the surge work? Ah, why don't you ask Obama who in his interview with Bill O'Reilly admitted that it has worked. Of course, he stopped short of admitting he was wrong in voting against it, but he said that it has GREATLY helped the situation in Iraq.
Now, just because you want all 100% American troops to be withdrawn RIGHT NOW doesn't mean that the surge did not work. By that logic, then we never won WWII since we still got troops in Germany and Japan. In fact, we still have troops in the Balkans. Why would it be any different in Iraq?
If you still have any doubt, just look at the NY Times, all the liberal media who have stopped reporting and writing stories about how we are losing the war. Why have they stopped comparing this military situation with the Vietnam War? John Murtha has been pretty quiet too. Why is that?
Listen, just admit that you, along with all the other Democrat politicians (who voted to go to war with Iraq), were wrong in stating that this was another Vietnam. You know, the only war that USA lost and that DEMOCRATS escalated and got us into. The same war that claimed over 58,000 American soldiers. Now that was a clusterfuck!
you're assuming the war is over.
Bush sai yesterday that he can only pull 5% of troops.
Why in the world would you need 130,000 troops (plus private contractors and support units) in a place where a war was WON?
Sounds to me like an occupying force. And you CANNOT declare a win if you still require the presence of 130,000 men.
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ooh, the surge is working!!!!! Awesome!!!!!
Why the fuck are we there in the first place anyway? ::)
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Whether the surge worked is irrelevant. Unless there were zero american deaths and zero iraqi civilian deaths and the natural enviorment of the desert was left undisturbed and America had approval from every other nation on earth, then the war was a failure.
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Whether the surge worked is irrelevant.
Actually, it's the platform that McCain is running on.
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Its not an issue but its a story and no matter where u are in the world, politics is the same. It would be the same in Iraq or the UK. One guy calls another guy a pig...its a story.
nope...not a quarter of this shit is news in the uk....i dont know about iraq/U.S controlled babylon
Especially the sex scandles..wouldnt make the back page in most european papers....mainly because everyone does it. Only here we act like its something only the sickest of the sick do. Remember a guy named Bill Clinton. Had the U.S. in awsome economic standing. I believe we were around 3 trillion in the black with a good rep around the world. And we tried to get him out because of a blowjob...Jesus h christ
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ooh, the surge is working!!!!! Awesome!!!!!
Why the fuck are we there in the first place anyway? ::)
You should start another thread on that.
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Remember a guy named Bill Clinton. Had the U.S. in awsome economic standing. I believe we were around 3 trillion in the black with a good rep around the world. And we tried to get him out because of a blowjob...Jesus h christ
ya got that right. i was a dumbshit back then. was so happy when clinton got his impeachment trial.
i'd take a BJ getting president anyday, if it means the dollar recovers its 41% since 2001.
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nope...not a quarter of this shit is news in the uk....i dont know about iraq/U.S controlled babylon
Especially the sex scandles..wouldnt make the back page in most european papers....mainly because everyone does it. Only here we act like its something only the sickest of the sick do. Remember a guy named Bill Clinton. Had the U.S. in awsome economic standing. I believe we were around 3 trillion in the black with a good rep around the world. And we tried to get him out because of a blowjob...Jesus h christ
NAFTA was passed under Clinton. Do your research. Clinton's passage of NAFTA was as disastrous as the Bush's Iraq war as far as the economy goes.
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NAFTA was passed under Clinton. Do your research. Clinton's passage of NAFTA was as disastrous as the Bush's Iraq war as far as the economy goes.
So are you trying to tell me Bush didnt take over the country with our economy in the surplus???
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The ONLY reason the surge is working is because of the insane amount of money we are throwing at the problem. It has nothing to do with a change or progress in military strategy. The insurgents/Al Sadr are being paid off. That's about the only thing America's military is good at these days. Paying off and appeasing the enemy.
HH6 why would anyone sign up and join a military that supports a corrupt, deceitful, elitist government. You're just a puppet for the NWO.
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So are you trying to tell me Bush didnt take over the country with our economy in the surplus???
Huh? The are several factors for the so called good times during the 90's under Clinton. One of which was the housing bubble that was created that is now bursting. Another was the collapse of the Asian economies which made foreign investors take their capital out of Asia and invest in the U.S. economy. Bill Clinton has fuck all to do with the success of the economy back then. As for Bush as much as I hate the prick he's not single handedly responsible for the downfall of the economy either. The bubbles you see bursting have been growing for the last 20 years. America has basically bought the entire world on debt and credit and the repercussions are coming home to roost. If anything Alan Greenspan is more responsible than President Bush.
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Huh? The are several factors for the so called good times during the 90's under Clinton. One of which was the housing bubble that was created that is now bursting. Another was the collapse of the Asian economies which made foreign investors take their capital out of Asia and invest in the U.S. economy. Bill Clinton has fuck all to do with the success of the economy back then. As for Bush as much as I hate the prick he's not single handedly responsible for the downfall of the economy either. The bubbles you see bursting have been growing for the last 20 years. America has basically bought the entire world on debt and credit and the repercussions are coming home to roost. If anything Alan Greenspan is more responsible than President Bush.
Ok you said that NAFTA passed and that was as bad for the economy as the war. Then why werent we fucked up before bush's first term.
Also ....if bush wouldnt have gotten us into this war, our economy would still be bad?
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Oh god, when all else fails blame George Bush. I am so sick and tired of hearing about the glory of the Clinton years. What you fail to realize is that Bush inhereted a disaster. The economy was good under Clinton because of the tech stocks ( which eventually went under), low corporate taxation coupled with little corporate scandal (We now have the highest corporate tax rate in the world and Enron, Worldcom, Tyco, etc. etc. etc. happened), the housing market bubble had not burst yet ( which it inevitably does), 911 didn't happen ( Clinton could have caught Bin Laden during his administration but didn't),Clinton passively allowed Saddam to ignore the UN resolutions his entire term and instead thought starving the Iraqi people with economic sanctions would be a better detterent, Hurricaine Katrina happened, etc. etc. etc.
Bush has not been a good president. But this idea that Clinton was somehow a godsend that did no wrong is absolute nonsense.
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Obama says yes:
“I think that the surge has succeeded in ways that nobody anticipated,” Obama said while refusing to retract his initial opposition to the surge. “I’ve already said it’s succeeded beyond our wildest dreams.”
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/04/obama-surge-succeeded-beyond-wildest-dreams/
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Oh god, when all else fails blame George Bush. I am so sick and tired of hearing about the glory of the Clinton years. What you fail to realize is that Bush inhereted a disaster. The economy was good under Clinton because of the tech stocks ( which eventually went under), low corporate taxation coupled with little corporate scandal (We now have the highest corporate tax rate in the world and Enron, Worldcom, Tyco, etc. etc. etc. happened), the housing market bubble had not burst yet ( which it inevitably does), 911 didn't happen ( Clinton could have caught Bin Laden during his administration but didn't),Clinton passively allowed Saddam to ignore the UN resolutions his entire term and instead thought starving the Iraqi people with economic sanctions would be a better detterent, Hurricaine Katrina happened, etc. etc. etc.
Bush has not been a good president. But this idea that Clinton was somehow a godsend that did no wrong is absolute nonsense.
I think that if so much time wasnt given to the blow job shit we could have focused more on bin laden. But I in no way believe that Sadam was/or should have been on the radar, he was not a threat at all. WMD ::)
As far as who does what in office..When Clinton was in office we were good. Now that he isnt, We are bad. Bottom line.
Talking about inhereting a mess. The next president is the one who is going to have to dig us out of the hole that Bush put us in.
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Obama says yes:
“I think that the surge has succeeded in ways that nobody anticipated,” Obama said while refusing to retract his initial opposition to the surge. “I’ve already said it’s succeeded beyond our wildest dreams.”
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/04/obama-surge-succeeded-beyond-wildest-dreams/
Jesus H. christ, you love the fox news dont you....
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Oh god, when all else fails blame George Bush. I am so sick and tired of hearing about the glory of the Clinton years. What you fail to realize is that Bush inhereted a disaster. The economy was good under Clinton because of the tech stocks ( which eventually went under), low corporate taxation coupled with little corporate scandal (We now have the highest corporate tax rate in the world and Enron, Worldcom, Tyco, etc. etc. etc. happened), the housing market bubble had not burst yet ( which it inevitably does), 911 didn't happen ( Clinton could have caught Bin Laden during his administration but didn't),Clinton passively allowed Saddam to ignore the UN resolutions his entire term and instead thought starving the Iraqi people with economic sanctions would be a better detterent, Hurricaine Katrina happened, etc. etc. etc.
Bush has not been a good president. But this idea that Clinton was somehow a godsend that did no wrong is absolute nonsense.
Compared to what the citizens pay Corporate America doesn't pay shit in taxes. And of course we are going to have the highest fucking corporate taxes in the world. How the fuck do you expect our country to spend more on defense than the next 9 countries put together?????? It takes taxes to be a superpower. Your hypocrisy and irony is to typical and hilarious. Wah wah whine whine we don't want to pay our corporate taxes but we love all the benefits that comes from insane defense spending and endless wars. Bush is by no means responsible for the current state of the economy but Alan Greenspan operated for 8 fucking years under Bush and Bush didn't say or do shit about interest rates. He's as much as responsible for the current disaster as any president of the last 50 years. Like I said America has bought the entire world on credit and now it's coming back to haunt us. Bush, Clinton, Greenspan, whoever, they were all responsible. The dollar is dropping because the U.S. Government's IOU's don't mean shit anymore. Our entire economy for the last 30 years has been based on debt, regardless of who was in the White House.
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Hey dipshit, all of Europe and Asia has lower corporate taxes because they are trying to encourage more business and commerce, not because they dont spend money on national defense.
As far as the rest of your post goes, I didnt adress whose fault anything is. I only adressed Bill Clinton. Try to actually read what I post next time before you post another nonsensical rant.
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I think that if so much time wasnt given to the blow job shit we could have focused more on bin laden. But I in no way believe that Sadam was/or should have been on the radar, he was not a threat at all. WMD ::)
As far as who does what in office..When Clinton was in office we were good. Now that he isnt, We are bad. Bottom line.
Talking about inhereting a mess. The next president is the one who is going to have to dig us out of the hole that Bush put us in.
WE WERE NOT GOOD UNDER CLINTON! Do you think offshoring jobs and the huge decline in manufacturing happened in the last 8 years? Dude you are clueless. Clinton was a fucking joke! Sad thing is yes he does make Bush look even worse. Do you even know anything about NAFTA? It probably single handedly was more responsible for the destruction of the middle class than anything Bush has really done.
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WE WERE NOT GOOD UNDER CLINTON! Do you think offshoring jobs and the huge decline in manufacturing happened in the last 8 years? Dude you are clueless. Clinton was a fucking joke! Sad thing is yes he does make Bush look even worse. Do you even know anything about NAFTA? It probably single handedly was more responsible for the destruction of the middle class than anything Bush has really done.
The middle class is still here my man.
Although I agree with your NAFTA viewpoint. What was the benefit to the US and our people in that deal?
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Jesus H. christ, you love the fox news dont you....
Nah. I don't love any news source. Are you disputing Obama's quote?
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Hey dipshit, all of Europe and Asia has lower corporate taxes because they are trying to encourage more business and commerce, not because they dont spend money on national defense.
As far as the rest of your post goes, I didnt adress whose fault anything is. I only adressed Bill Clinton. Try to actually read what I post next time before you post another nonsensical rant.
Hey dipshit, China which is the biggest economic powerhouse in the world right now has a central bank controlled by the government. Do you understand the difference between a private FED and a national bank? Having a national bank you can lend tons of money to your own country's corporations, businesses etc. without interest. I.e. you're basically just paying interest back to yourself. Do you understand how the FED works in this country? Our government is at the mercy of the FED which is actually a bunch of private banks charging interest to our government i.e. the American people. Hence why we will never pay off the debt or even the interest.
Of and if you really want to get technical corporations don't pay any taxes. In fact most corporations pass the the cost of taxes onto the consumer. So your theory that high tax rates stifles job creation etc. is complete neocon bullshit.
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Thanks for clearing that up for me and adressing the issues I brought up. ::)
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WE WERE NOT GOOD UNDER CLINTON! Do you think offshoring jobs and the huge decline in manufacturing happened in the last 8 years? Dude you are clueless. Clinton was a fucking joke! Sad thing is yes he does make Bush look even worse. Do you even know anything about NAFTA? It probably single handedly was more responsible for the destruction of the middle class than anything Bush has really done.
Yo check this out. Dont play me chief.
I do know about NAFTA. Personally I do think it initially worked as you can tell by the surge in employment rates during the elementary stages of NAFTA. I do think that outsourcing is a major problem and manufacturing jobs took the biggest hit. But do I think NAFTA is a roaring success No. Nor do I think it is as fucked up as some people. Over all I give it a C...
Now for the War...F-
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The middle class is still here my man.
Although I agree with your NAFTA viewpoint. What was the benefit to the US and our people in that deal?
The middle class is disappearing! The gap between the rich and the poor in America is widening dramatically. We are becoming a third world banana republic. Do you know what a banana republic is? That might be fine for you but America was at its strongest when the middle class was at its strongest. A strong middle class is necessary to preserve democracy as well.
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Hey dipshit, China which is the biggest economic powerhouse in the world right now has a central bank controlled by the government. Do you understand the difference between a private FED and a national bank? Having a national bank you can lend tons of money to your own country's corporations, businesses etc. without interest. I.e. you're basically just paying interest back to yourself. Do you understand how the FED works in this country? Our government is at the mercy of the FED which is actually a bunch of private banks charging interest to our government i.e. the American people. Hence why we will never pay off the debt or even the interest.
Of and if you really want to get technical corporations don't pay any taxes. In fact most corporations pass the the cost of taxes onto the consumer. So your theory that high tax rates stifles job creation etc. is complete neocon bullshit.
Spoken for Truth...
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The middle class is disappearing! The gap between the rich and the poor in America is widening dramatically. We are becoming a third world banana republic. Do you know what a banana republic is? That might be fine for you but America was at its strongest when the middle class was at its strongest. A strong middle class is necessary to preserve democracy as well.
Is it possible for you to speak without being a coccksucker? The middle class is still here. Do you know what the middle class is? They are those people who work hard and save and don't sit around worrying about how some neo-con big corporation is conspiring against them.
The middle class is weakening, I agree. However I think it is more because of the inability to manage their finances. If you can't afford it, don't buy it. QUIT DOING BUSINESS ON CREDIT. Both government and private people.
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Is it possible for you to speak without being a coccksucker? The middle class is still here. Do you know what the middle class is? They are those people who work hard and save and don't sit around worrying about how some neo-con big corporation is conspiring against them.
The middle class is weakening, I agree. However I think it is more because of the inability to manage their finances. If you can't afford it, don't buy it. QUIT DOING BUSINESS ON CREDIT. Both government and private people.
Haha you don't see the big picture do you? Why do you think America has had the strongest/greatest economy? It's BECAUSE WE CONSUME!!!!!!!! We are a paradox economy. Why is it so hard for you to realize that? 70% of our economy is based on consumer spending? Do you understand what that means? LOL. You're like every other talking head out there who loves living in excess in America yet expects everyone to save and be frugal. If that were to happen our economy would be even shittier than it is now. And the unfortunate thing is it's all based on credit and debt. Inflation is going up, wages are stagnating and even negative in comparison.
The middle is are the ones who actually work hard and SPEND money. Rich people sit back and make money off the middle class' hyperconsumption. Poor people sit around mooching off everyone. If the middle class saved more and spent less there rich people would not make their money.
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we won't know if the surge was a success until our 146,000 troops and 150,000 private contractors are out of there.
it's that simple. Just as many of you doucherats were celebrating "mission accomplished" on may 1, 2003.
How'd that one work out for you?
you're celebrating based on vague flimsy benchmarks which still require nearly 300,000 men with guns to keep the fvcking state together.
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Haha you don't see the big picture do you? Why do you think America has had the strongest/greatest economy? It's BECAUSE WE CONSUME!!!!!!!! We are a paradox economy. Why is it so hard for you to realize that? 70% of our economy is based on consumer spending? Do you understand what that means? LOL. You're like every other talking head out there who loves living in excess in America yet expects everyone to save and be frugal. If that were to happen our economy would be even shittier than it is now. And the unfortunate thing is it's all based on credit and debt. Inflation is going up, wages are stagnating and even negative in comparison.
The middle is are the ones who actually work hard and SPEND money. Rich people sit back and make money off the middle class' hyperconsumption. Poor people sit around mooching off everyone. If the middle class saved more and spent less there rich people would not make their money.
What, you think you fuuckin know me and how I deal with finances? Infleation (That means things cost more) is going up in part because people are willing to pay more for things because they can put it on their visa and worry about it 'later'.
Kudos for the 2nd part, sir.
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I'm not saying you personally. I'm saying you expect Americans to be frugal when our entire economy is based on consumption? LOL Hypocrisy.
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Oh hell... I don't think there is any risk of Americans as a whole saving to any significant level. We have spent more than we have earned for something like 6 straight years now.
Now that I think about it I do agree with you... This economy IS based on consumption. Not sustainable in the long run.
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The ONLY reason the surge is working is because of the insane amount of money we are throwing at the problem. It has nothing to do with a change or progress in military strategy. The insurgents/Al Sadr are being paid off. That's about the only thing America's military is good at these days. Paying off and appeasing the enemy.
HH6 why would anyone sign up and join a military that supports a corrupt, deceitful, elitist government. You're just a puppet for the NWO.
Please stop commenting on the war, u have ZERO idea about whats going on there, none. U are an idiot of epic porportions. We're not paying off Al Sadr, he's cry in his turban in Iran. Yeah we've paid SOL, now we have em either in the army/police or in other jobs. Don't ever comment on what we do, the lowliest private in the army is a better man then u dipshit.
And I enlisted i the last year of Bush 1...served all of my enlisted time under Clinton and was commissioned under him as well.
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I think that if so much time wasnt given to the blow job shit we could have focused more on bin laden. But I in no way believe that Sadam was/or should have been on the radar, he was not a threat at all. WMD ::)
As far as who does what in office..When Clinton was in office we were good. Now that he isnt, We are bad. Bottom line.
Talking about inhereting a mess. The next president is the one who is going to have to dig us out of the hole that Bush put us in.
Had Clinton simply CONFESSED to his adultery, the backlash would have been far less. It’s like a kid who gets in more trouble for lying about what he did, than he would have just for what he did.
Furthermore, if things were so swell under Clinton, Gore should have cruised to an easy win in 2000. Instead, he LOST (not by much; but he lost nonetheless).
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Oh man, now the idiots will start the "he was robbed" it was stolen crap.
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Oh man, now the idiots will start the "he was robbed" it was stolen crap.
Naw Bush won and IMO he was the right pick. Wish there were 4 more years of Bush he was an awsome president i think...dont you?
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If the surge works, then putting a tooth that fell out of my mouth under my pillow so some tooth fairy can come snatch it up and leave me $$ is working fine as well... ::)
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President Bush announced today that he'll withdraw only about 5% of the current 146,000-strong force in Iraq before he leaves office
bush just needs to withdraw his cock out of america...
he's fucked her real good..
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Oh man, now the idiots will start the "he was robbed" it was stolen crap.
If the libs lose, it's always because they were robbed.
If the repubs lose, it's because they deserved to.
Isn't that the way it works?
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A better thread would be:
Did the war serve any purpose?
And before somebody posts the video again, I'm not interested in what a semi-literate wet behind the ears GI has to say about it.
Because you are fucking idiot, who only wants to hear an opinion as ignorant as yours.
Only a pussy calls any GI semi-literate. I guarantee you don't have the balls to say that shit to whoever the fuck you re talking about.
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Cause you're a GI that automatically makes you a bad ass? LOL. ::)
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If the surge works, then putting a tooth that fell out of my mouth under my pillow so some tooth fairy can come snatch it up and leave me $$ is working fine as well... ::)
Violence in Iraq down by 80%.
All 18 provinces in Iraq are under control and 12 of them have been handed over to the Iraqi security force.
Liberal media doesn't report anymore on IEDs, how out of control the security situation is, how we are losing the war, how much it mirrors Vietnam, etc....
BARACK OBAMA ADMITTED THAT IT WORKED!!!! More clearly Democrats don't even speak about it. They will speak about how we should never had gone to war with Iraq, how Bush and the military commanders misjudged the number of troops needed from the very beginning of the war, and they will complain about how much it is costing to run the war, but if you hear closely, NONE of them are saying that we are losing the war, nor are they saying that the surge was a failure.
If you support Obama and the Democrats, and they themselves will not declare the surge as a failure, who are you to say otherwise? Do you have some secret information on the war that no other government official has? Are you on the ground in Iraq and able to contradict what every American commander involved in this war is stating as fact?
Are you stupid or just pretending?
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Cause you're a GI that automatically makes you a bad ass? LOL. ::)
Cause you type tough words on a computer screen makes you a bad ass? HEHEHEEH!!!!
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Cause you type tough words on a computer screen makes you a bad ass? HEHEHEEH!!!!
I'm 6'5 and 250lbs and have enough confidence in my training that very few people actually scare me physically. Not claiming to be a bad ass and have been in enough scuffles to know there will always be someone bigger, stronger, and tougher than myself. But very few people, least of all because they are in the military, scare me.
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U miss the point there "hulk".....most Joes aren't 6'5 250 ::) but would do their best to kick the dog snot out of u. They wouldn't fear u while I would imagine most of the situations they've been in since 2001 would have u shitting ur pants.
I had a 19 year old female in Afghanistan get ambushed while she was with the Germans. The German convoy was hit with RPG's and small arms. The gunner on her vehicle jammed his weapon. She had been with them a few months prior, training on their weapons for a badge that we're allowed to wear. She jumped up, cleared the weapon and returned fire. After the Taliban took off she jumped out and pulled security, including pulling some afghani out of his car through the window, because they thought he was scouting for another attack. The Germans decorated her, we decorated her.
I doubt u could do the same. These kids put their asses on the line everyday. They count, they matter and worthless idiots like u can't even hold their jocks. Don't ever compare urself to these hero's.
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U miss the point there "hulk".....most Joes aren't 6'5 250 ::) but would do their best to kick the dog snot out of u. They wouldn't fear u while I would imagine most of the situations they've been in since 2001 would have u shitting ur pants.
I had a 19 year old female in Afghanistan get ambushed while she was with the Germans. The German convoy was hit with RPG's and small arms. The gunner on her vehicle jammed his weapon. She had been with them a few months prior, training on their weapons for a badge that we're allowed to wear. She jumped up, cleared the weapon and returned fire. After the Taliban took off she jumped out and pulled security, including pulling some afghani out of his car through the window, because they thought he was scouting for another attack. The Germans decorated her, we decorated her.
I doubt u could do the same. These kids put their asses on the line everyday. They count, they matter and worthless idiots like u can't even hold their jocks. Don't ever compare urself to these hero's.
WOW, what a fucking post! Absolutely awesome not just this woman, but your post!
Semper Fidelis
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U miss the point there "hulk".....most Joes aren't 6'5 250 ::) but would do their best to kick the dog snot out of u. They wouldn't fear u while I would imagine most of the situations they've been in since 2001 would have u shitting ur pants.
I had a 19 year old female in Afghanistan get ambushed while she was with the Germans. The German convoy was hit with RPG's and small arms. The gunner on her vehicle jammed his weapon. She had been with them a few months prior, training on their weapons for a badge that we're allowed to wear. She jumped up, cleared the weapon and returned fire. After the Taliban took off she jumped out and pulled security, including pulling some afghani out of his car through the window, because they thought he was scouting for another attack. The Germans decorated her, we decorated her.
I doubt u could do the same. These kids put their asses on the line everyday. They count, they matter and worthless idiots like u can't even hold their jocks. Don't ever compare urself to these hero's.
Haha you epic fucking loser! Another GI Jane story! You don't know me. While you were 15 years old eating your boogers and jacking off to GI Joe I was scaling 5.11's and backpacking the Pacific Crest trail. I would have made one hell of a soldier! And depending on the future direction of this country that might come to fruition if pussies like you can't get the job done.