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Im starting to get concerned, he needs to hold a big rally in a huge stadium or something, in order to rally his party and get the spot light back on him.
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Im starting to get concerned, he needs to hold a big rally in a huge stadium or something, in order to rally his party and get the spot light back on him.
Hate to say I told you so but...................
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It's a long time until November. Let's wait and see.
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It's a long time until November. Let's wait and see.
It's only like 55 more days.
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what happened about the story of the old guy who said he blew obama and did coke with him in 99 ?
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what happened about the story of the old guy who said he blew obama and did coke with him in 99 ?
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How many of you have ever been called by a Pollster? iv been a a registered voter since 88 and Iv never once been called EVER. I have 1 uncle who was called. I dont know 1 other person who has been called EVER.
So polls mean? NADA
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Palin's speech seems to have turned the whole Obama campaign hater.
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Palin's speech seems to have turned the whole Obama campaign hater.
Not for the educated.
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Not for the educated.
Adam, are you saying we are on track to "Paint the White House Black"?
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Not for the educated.
True Adonis, you remind me of this guy, visually and also intellectually. if you wore an eyepatch it would be you
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Think about this one...
Palin WAS perfect - no interviews, all controlled stump speeches - until yesterday, when Obama used the "lipstick on a pig" comment and she had to respond with how offended she was, on bahalf of all women. Yes, she claims to be tough enough to stare down Putin and Hugo Chavez, but she's deeply offended by a lipstick comment, huh? Real tough...
And, Obama is on Letterman tonight. Laughing about these silly lipstick charges. Saying "If that had been what I was saying, palin would actually be the lipstick, adn Obama would be the pig!"
Kerry would have been pathetically apologizing with a long face. Obama is laughing off these nonsense charges. And instead of returning to Alaska unscathed to hide for 3 weeks, Palin now returns as an offended whiner who cracked under one lipstick comment.
Methinks Obama just cracked that veneer, that gloss that she had.
And he's not going to apologize his way to a loss.
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The majority of Americans are currently morons and this is strictly due to the education and the current structure of which surrounds our culture.
A good book to read is "How Stupid Are We".
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The majority of Americans are currently morons and this is strictly due to the education and the current structure of which surrounds our culture.
A good book to read is "How Stupid Are We".
Your one of them w/ your HS education lol
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Your one of them w/ your HS education lol
You are nothing more than a drunk monkey banging on a broken pot and trying to call it music.
Nobody is convinced at your false assertions. You are in line with the majority it is clear. :)
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lol @ thinking simply reading someone else's ideas and cut and pasting their work is a sign of intelligence
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lol @ thinking simply reading someone else's ideas and cut and pasting their work is a sign of intelligence
I guess you are oblivious to how knowledge works.
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I guess you are oblivious to how knowledge works.
who will you vote for, Mr.Adonis.
if I remember well you were suporting some Gravel guy a few months back no ?
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I guess you are oblivious to how knowledge works.
You need to learn to actually think for yourself. Telling people to read a book you liked is a blatant sign that you need to be spoon-fed ideas. You lack reasoning skills, hence your constant resorting to other people's work, usually by cut and paste. You're simply a parroting plagiarist. You try but need to learn to think for yourself. It's time to take the next step.
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How many of you have been called by Pollsters? Thats what I thought...
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Palin is a creationist, she thinks the dinosaurs were wiped out because they didnt get onto Noah's ark and evolution never happend.
You people think she can run a country? fucking lunatics..
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Palin is a creationist, she thinks the dinosaurs were wiped out because they didnt get onto Noah's ark and evolution never happend.
I think Noah was worried they'd eat the other animals.
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Vote 3rd party, send a message to these scum.
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"And polls mean what? NADA" pretty funny since Dem/Libs live and die by the polls....but when there not going in favor of them then it's "and polls mean what? NADA"..
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who will you vote for, Mr.Adonis.
if I remember well you were suporting some Gravel guy a few months back no ?
Barack Obama all the way. He is a stepping stone in the correct direction to save the republic. I would love to see a Kucinich, Wexler or a Gravel type at the helm one day. We are getting there...Only if th zeitgeist could be sped up just a bit.
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You need to learn to actually think for yourself. Telling people to read a book you liked is a blatant sign that you need to be spoon-fed ideas. You lack reasoning skills, hence your constant resorting to other people's work, usually by cut and paste. You're simply a parroting plagiarist. You try but need to learn to think for yourself. It's time to take the next step.
::)
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"And polls mean what? NADA" pretty funny since Dem/Libs live and die by the polls....but when there not going in favor of them then it's "and polls mean what? NADA"..
I think you feel this way because in state-by-state polling, which the US system uses, Obama has a healthy lead:
www.pollster.com
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Barack Obama all the way. He is a stepping stone in the correct direction to save the republic. I would love to see a Kucinich, Wexler or a Gravel type at the helm one day. We are getting there...Only if th zeitgeist could be sped up just a bit.
dont follow it that much but if I was american I'd vote for the democrats too.
Mccain gives a bad vibe, it will be George Bush all over again
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Voting third party is probably the most honest and conscientious decision... personally I'd like to vote Nader/Chomsky '08...
...but...
...At this point it's either going to be McCain or Obama... so vote Obama.
People who voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004 are now falling for all the same bullshit from the McCain camp... which is sad considering the same people who twice voted for the worst president in American history (not my opinion... that's fast becoming consensus among historians) are now voting for another out of touch corporate shill and longtime supporter of Dubya simply because his running mate is another dumber-than-shit Jeebus freak.
So McCain/Palin versus Obama/Biden will split America along "Under 95 IQ" versus "Over 95 IQ" lines... and Obama could lose that race.
Doesn't anyone on the right notice that a McCain/Palin ticket is equivalent to voting Cheney/Bush? They've just changed the order... corporate shill for President and Creationist for VP.
The Luke
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The majority of Americans are currently morons and this is strictly due to the education and the current structure of which surrounds our culture.
A good book to read is "How Stupid Are We".
truth !
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Think about this one...
Palin WAS perfect - no interviews, all controlled stump speeches - until yesterday, when Obama used the "lipstick on a pig" comment and she had to respond with how offended she was, on bahalf of all women. Yes, she claims to be tough enough to stare down Putin and Hugo Chavez, but she's deeply offended by a lipstick comment, huh? Real tough...
And, Obama is on Letterman tonight. Laughing about these silly lipstick charges. Saying "If that had been what I was saying, palin would actually be the lipstick, adn Obama would be the pig!"
Kerry would have been pathetically apologizing with a long face. Obama is laughing off these nonsense charges. And instead of returning to Alaska unscathed to hide for 3 weeks, Palin now returns as an offended whiner who cracked under one lipstick comment.
Methinks Obama just cracked that veneer, that gloss that she had.
And he's not going to apologize his way to a loss.
Methinks you ain't got your facts straight. Palin has yet to even comment on the matter. She has hardly cracked; that honors falls to Obama and his supporters, as they're getting bent out of shape about this thing.
Every time someone has taken a shot at Palin, intentional or not, it has come back to burn them. What Obama is doing is called damage control. Going on Letterman hardly helps his case. Even Democratic supporters are quite concerned that Palin has him rattled. He's off message and is too focused on Palin, not his counterpart on the GOP, McCain.
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Voting third party is probably the most honest and conscientious decision... personally I'd like to vote Nader/Chomsky '08...
...but...
...At this point it's either going to be McCain or Obama... so vote Obama.
People who voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004 are now falling for all the same bullshit from the McCain camp... which is sad considering the same people who twice voted for the worst president in American history (not my opinion... that's fast becoming consensus among historians) are now voting for another out of touch corporate shill and longtime supporter of Dubya simply because his running mate is another dumber-than-shit Jeebus freak.
So McCain/Palin versus Obama/Biden will split America along "Under 95 IQ" versus "Over 95 IQ" lines... and Obama could lose that race.
Doesn't anyone on the right notice that a McCain/Palin ticket is equivalent to voting Cheney/Bush? They've just changed the order... corporate shill for President and Creationist for VP.
The Luke
Yes its very shocking to know that americans might elect another repub, after what they have been through these past 8 years. They fall for McCains blatant lies for ads. Again these are un educated people that make less then $40K a year so they're easily fooled.
However Obama has a strong ground game, much more so then McCains campaign. And that is something the mccain campaign is over looking. The democartic base is much larger then the republican base, and we have way more new registered voters them republicans. So really all we need is a few % of independents votes come Nov 4 th and Obama will be in the white house.
IMO Obama still has it in the bag, just let this Sarah Palin bs fade out over the next 2 weeks. Then wait for the VP debates, that will be a turning point in the campaign in favor for Obama, and he take the lead in the national polls again. Then when the Obama/McCain debates take place, Obamas lead will increase even more.
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Yes its very shocking to know that americans might elect another repub, after what they have been through these past 8 years. They fall for McCains blatant lies for ads. Again these are un educated people that make less then $40K a year so they're easily fooled.
Very odd since obama will help this group where they need it , in the wallet.
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Bill Clinton will be hitting the campaign trail with Obama next week, this will energize the dem base again, and u will see huge rallies again for Obama! Its not over yet!
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True Adonis, you remind me of this guy, visually and also intellectually. if you wore an eyepatch it would be you
failed.
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Voting third party is probably the most honest and conscientious decision... personally I'd like to vote Nader/Chomsky '08...
...but...
...At this point it's either going to be McCain or Obama... so vote Obama.
People who voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004 are now falling for all the same bullshit from the McCain camp... which is sad considering the same people who twice voted for the worst president in American history (not my opinion... that's fast becoming consensus among historians) are now voting for another out of touch corporate shill and longtime supporter of Dubya simply because his running mate is another dumber-than-shit Jeebus freak.
What exactly makes her dumb, other than your frustration over the fact, that she has virtually taken all the winds out of Obama's sails?
As for "worst president", you might want to take a look at Jimmy Carter. I don't hear a lot of fond remarks about him. And the fact that Ronald Reagan BEAT THE MESS out of him in 1980 pretty much says it all.
So McCain/Palin versus Obama/Biden will split America along "Under 95 IQ" versus "Over 95 IQ" lines... and Obama could lose that race.
Doesn't anyone on the right notice that a McCain/Palin ticket is equivalent to voting Cheney/Bush? They've just changed the order... corporate shill for President and Creationist for VP
The Luke
Do you notice that this tired line ain't working for Obama, either? ;D
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MCWAY,
I consider Sarah Palin to be dumber than shit because she is a literalist Christian... she bases her life on the mistranslations of an overly edited book of superstitions.
And for the record Jimmy Carter is far from the worst president the US has ever had... he had his failings, but any impartial observer would agree that had the hostages been returned before the election in '80 he would have won a second term (Carter negotiated the release of the American hostages, but Reagan's people offered the kidnappers extra incentives if they would hold off releasing them till AFTER the election... that's right, Reagan paid terrorists to KEEP American citizens hostage).
An impartial observer would also agree that America was better off under Carter than Reagan DESPITE Americans FEELING Reagan was the better president.
Reagan allowed vested interests the opportunity to dismantle unions and the middle class, thereby effectively opening the treasury doors to any and all corporations. Something that has become flagrantly blatant during the Bush administration.
This is all FACT.
Since his term in office, Carter has demonstrated the quality of his character through his tireless work with charities such as Habitat for Humanity... Bush is a longtime loser/drunk/coke-head and sometime oil company shill AND THE WORST PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY!
Professor Jared Diamond has said so.
Madeleine Albright has said so.
Noam Chomsky has said so.
...I'm living in the mountains of Ireland, how do I have a better understanding of American politics than some of the Americans on this site?
McWay, you would do better to explain to those reading that you yourself are also a (dumber-than-shit) literalist Christian Creationist fundamentalist (thousands of posts on the Religious Debates board attest to this) because you haven't presented any other good reason why you support the choice of Sarah Palin as VP.
The Luke
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Carter is pretty much responsible for much of the failed foreign policy that we have had to recover from since he was president. He let Iran go nutbag, he did zip about the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and refused to help the Mujih's. He buried our economy, he accomplished nothing. We've covered the Carter thing in depth here. The guy was horrible.
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Carter is pretty much responsible for much of the failed foreign policy that we have had to recover from since he was president. He let Iran go nutbag, he did zip about the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and refused to help the Mujih's. He buried our economy, he accomplished nothing. We've covered the Carter thing in depth here. The guy was horrible.
...as I said, the guy had his failings.
But those failings pale in comparison to the catastrophe that has been the Bush administration, right?
We can all agree on that? Can't we?
The Luke
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...as I said, the guy had his failings.
But those failings pale in comparison to the catastrophe that has been the Bush administration, right?
We can all agree on that? Can't we?
The Luke
Bush ran for re-election and won; Carter ran for re-election and got DESTROYED. 'Nuff said.
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MCWAY,
I consider Sarah Palin to be dumber than shit because she is a literalist Christian... she bases her life on the mistranslations of an overly edited book of superstitions.
And for the record Jimmy Carter is far from the worst president the US has ever had... he had his failings, but any impartial observer would agree that had the hostages been returned before the election in '80 he would have won a second term (Carter negotiated the release of the American hostages, but Reagan's people offered the kidnappers extra incentives if they would hold off releasing them till AFTER the election... that's right, Reagan paid terrorists to KEEP American citizens hostage).
An impartial observer would also agree that America was better off under Carter than Reagan DESPITE Americans FEELING Reagan was the better president.
Reagan allowed vested interests the opportunity to dismantle unions and the middle class, thereby effectively opening the treasury doors to any and all corporations. Something that has become flagrantly blatant during the Bush administration.
This is all FACT.
Since his term in office, Carter has demonstrated the quality of his character through his tireless work with charities such as Habitat for Humanity... Bush is a longtime loser/drunk/coke-head and sometime oil company shill AND THE WORST PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY!
Professor Jared Diamond has said so.
Madeleine Albright has said so.
Noam Chomsky has said so.
...I'm living in the mountains of Ireland, how do I have a better understanding of American politics than some of the Americans on this site?
McWay, you would do better to explain to those reading that you yourself are also a (dumber-than-shit) literalist Christian Creationist fundamentalist (thousands of posts on the Religious Debates board attest to this) because you haven't presented any other good reason why you support the choice of Sarah Palin as VP.
The Luke
Most of the people here either already know or don't care what my views are on Creation. That has NOTHING to do with the subject at hand. Your assessment that Gov. Palin is dumb, simply because of her religious beliefs smacks of little more than utter silliness, with a healthy dose of skeptic arrogance.
But, as is often shown, when folks like you can't make a legitimate case for your arguments, you resort to claiming how smart you are and how dumb those who disagree with you are. It's rather infantile and, quite frankly, pitiful.
Oh, by the way, you, boy genius, just pledged your support for Obama, who has gone on record as being a Christian, a man of faith. He may even believe in Creation.
How's that for irony? ;D
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What exactly makes her dumb, other than your frustration over the fact, that she has virtually taken all the winds out of Obama's sails?
As for "worst president", you might want to take a look at Jimmy Carter. I don't hear a lot of fond remarks about him. And the fact that Ronald Reagan BEAT THE MESS out of him in 1980 pretty much says it all.
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Why do you Palin supporters think Palin has done anything to Obama's momentum? She hasn't said anything of substance. She's a pretty face with a deplorable political perpsective. She's window-dressing for the old and tired McCain. She hasn't done a thing except show up.
Careful with Carter cracks, REagan adopted many policies of Carter and ran with them (deregulation, foreign policy-esp El salvadoran policy). As for beating the mess out of Carter, check out the Iran hostage october surprise. Wasn't it amazingly good timing to have the hostages released when Reagan was sworn in?
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palin..pretty. lol..she is average at best..
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Why do you Palin supporters think Palin has done anything to Obama's momentum? She hasn't said anything of substance. She's a pretty face with a deplorable political perpsective. She's window-dressing for the old and tired McCain. She hasn't done a thing except show up.
Careful with Carter cracks, REagan adopted many policies of Carter and ran with them (deregulation, foreign policy-esp El salvadoran policy). As for beating the mess out of Carter, check out the Iran hostage october surprise. Wasn't it amazingly good timing to have the hostages released when Reagan was sworn in?
Sworn in=2.5 months after the election. WTF are you talking about loser?
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Sworn in=2.5 months after the election. WTF are you talking about loser?
Hey now, why so edgy? Are you off of coffee? Or did you pick the wrong day to stop sniffing glue? Or is it just that time of the month that you bleed profusely from your pussy?
Reagan was just about the worst president we've had in the last few decades...except for GW Bush. He makes Reagan's crimes look small time.
Do some research on October surprise and then get back to me. I don't mind educating you but I'm not going to spoonfeed you this shit.
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Strongest thread libs can produce?LMAO. y'all will be crying in NOV. I will not hear it.
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Strongest thread libs can produce?LMAO. y'all will be crying in NOV. I will not hear it.
I will be b/c Big Mac will win by 4%.
Bush III will happen you all can pat yourselves on the back for a job well done. More debt, war, gov. bailouts, abrogation of constitutional rights and so on. The victor...
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Decker..(are you are stupid). No one wants the deficit this administration left. No one wants to borrow money from China. Only u can save us. No one wants to be less in the eyes of the Europeans. Gawd Knows we want them to love us. (LMAO). What should we do? Tell us?!!! We need your intellect.
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Barack Obama all the way. He is a stepping stone in the correct direction to save the republic. I would love to see a Kucinich, Wexler or a Gravel type at the helm one day. We are getting there...Only if th zeitgeist could be sped up just a bit.
Ha ha ha ha - True Adonis do you still feel this way?
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Ha ha ha ha - True Adonis do you still feel this way?
LOL hows that hope and change working out TA?
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I will be b/c Big Mac will win by 4%.
Bush III will happen you all can pat yourselves on the back for a job well done. More debt, war, gov. bailouts, abrogation of constitutional rights and so on. The victor...
Suckers. We wound up with exactly that under Obama and you clowns on the left sit silent and still blame palin, beck, fox news etc.
Hope & Change!!!