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Title: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: Deicide on September 11, 2008, 06:38:04 AM
So I have been back for a little over a month in Germany and all I see are fucking Arabs...2 weeks ago a crazy Arab tried to stab my friend to death with a broken bottle. Some other Arabs stole stuff from his flat (where I am staying). A few years back whilst living in France my flat was broken into by Arabs and I was assaulted by a bunch of them in Paris; another friend of mine was tied up and beaten up by Arabs in his own flat in Brussels some years back. Everywhere I look there are fucking menacing Arabs committing crimes left and right; at least Mexicans keep vegetable prices low in the states; the Arabs mooch off the social state and rob, brutalise and kill Europeans. Is it too late to save Europe?

Discuss...
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: calfzilla on September 11, 2008, 06:40:45 AM
I wish the USA had a serious Arab immigration problem.  Arab bitches are by far the hottest IMO.  There's just not enought of them.  I wish we could trade a few million Mexicans for some Arabs and Persians. 
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: m8 on September 11, 2008, 06:41:39 AM
Same shit here in France.
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: George Whorewell on September 11, 2008, 06:44:29 AM
Read the book "America Alone" by Mark Steyn. It talks about how Europe is going to become Eurabia within the next 10 years because of the arab cockroach immigration problem.
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: Sassyclassywoman on September 11, 2008, 06:47:10 AM
So I have been back for a little over a month in Germany and all I see are fucking Arabs...2 weeks ago a crazy Arab tried to stab my friend to death with a broken bottle. Some other Arabs stole stuff from his flat (where I am staying). A few years back whilst living in France my flat was broken into by Arabs and I was assaulted by a bunch of them in Paris; another friend of mine was tied up and beaten up by Arabs in his own flat in Brussels some years back. Everywhere I look there are fucking menacing Arabs committing crimes left and right; at least Mexicans keep vegetable prices low in the states; the Arabs mooch off the social state and rob, brutalise and kill Europeans. Is it too late to save Europe?

Discuss...

In Italy we have an albanian and gypsy problem.  The albanians are essentially our "mexicans"  they are just looking for construction work.  They are pretty good bricklayers.  Gypsies however are really annoying people that have kids and live like american trailer trash.  They like to pickpocket.   Arabs could never live in italy.  It's just waaay too catholic for them.    Plus, italians  hate all foreigners, they even hate other italians that speak different dialects.  We don't welcome anyone or act politically correct to anyone except americans.  And that's because their bases bring jobs, security and dr. pepper.  
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: Deicide on September 11, 2008, 06:48:55 AM
Same shit here in France.

I noticed when I was living in France; fucking Arabs ruined my experience there... :-\
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: Gino30 on September 11, 2008, 06:50:17 AM
hmmm, Arabs huh.......where's there's fire, theres an Arab

there's only way one to deal with the muslim/arab problem - the SERB way.....like up 100 tanks and charge....anything moves, zero-in and unleash the power

Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: m8 on September 11, 2008, 06:50:45 AM
I noticed when I was living in France; fucking Arabs ruined my experience there... :-\

and we have this as a president now.

(http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/file/402519.jpg)
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: Benny B on September 11, 2008, 06:51:17 AM
So I have been back for a little over a month in Germany and all I see are fucking Arabs...2 weeks ago a crazy Arab tried to stab my friend to death with a broken bottle. Some other Arabs stole stuff from his flat (where I am staying). A few years back whilst living in France my flat was broken into by Arabs and I was assaulted by a bunch of them in Paris; another friend of mine was tied up and beaten up by Arabs in his own flat in Brussels some years back. Everywhere I look there are fucking menacing Arabs committing crimes left and right; at least Mexicans keep vegetable prices low in the states; the Arabs mooch off the social state and rob, brutalise and kill Europeans. Is it too late to save Europe?

Discuss...
Where will you move next, racist? Or will you just end it all...soon?
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: tendonitis on September 11, 2008, 06:56:03 AM
Europe is becoming infested with Muslims.  It may be time for another "cleansing."
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: SUPREME BEING on September 11, 2008, 07:10:29 AM
So I have been back for a little over a month in Germany and all I see are fucking Arabs...2 weeks ago a crazy Arab tried to stab my friend to death with a broken bottle. Some other Arabs stole stuff from his flat (where I am staying). A few years back whilst living in France my flat was broken into by Arabs and I was assaulted by a bunch of them in Paris; another friend of mine was tied up and beaten up by Arabs in his own flat in Brussels some years back. Everywhere I look there are fucking menacing Arabs committing crimes left and right; at least Mexicans keep vegetable prices low in the states; the Arabs mooch off the social state and rob, brutalise and kill Europeans. Is it too late to save Europe?

Discuss...

Most of you are racist Morons looking for scapegoats and easy solutions. You get you stats from clowns like the BNP and think their really is such a big problem.

I have heard so many times in the UK that Paki's are taking all the jobs - even though i dislike most Pakis with a vegeance due to their pathetic religious beliefs i still find nearly most people have no clue about immigration.

Here are stats from UK 2001 Census which is most accurate representation of population in UK.
Have a look for yourselves and see if they are really taking over.
Asians and Asian British make up 4% of population and Arabs or Muslims make up 1.8%.

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=273 (http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=273)
2008 estimitates show no significant increase in this ethnic goups population in the UK.

Apart from the stats i have to say Governments need to change in UK regrading their Pro Muslim stance. Mosques should be infiltrated and constantly monitored without any objection of human rights violations as we all know this is where they get their ridiculous religious propaganda.
Any Muslim seen inciting hatred towards the West should be deported - simple as that. The problem is the freedom these great Western Countries has gone too far, liberal pussies mean we can no longer enforce our own rules without the legal system messing things up. Certain things need to change and i don't mean befriending Pakis or community integration.

Pakis will never change for many many years to come, their dumbass religious beliefs are instilled in them from a young age. What i don't want to see is other good brown skinned fellows being hated and mistaken for Pakis.

Media and newspapers should stop referring to Asian riots or Asian youths, Asia is a big place and Chinese and Indians are a fantastic addition to our society. They both work hard, start businesses and pay help our Economies in a vital manner. I just wish many of you more ignorant Get biggers will see this injustice towards all Brown people.

Some education is needed - please note that Brown people who wear Turbans and drive your cabs are Indians and Sikhs - these are very good people who work hard and have done very well when they arrived in the West - they got on with it even though they suffered discrimination from the early years. Unlike Black people and Pakis who still cry foul of racial discrimination and White men keeping them down, Indians and Chinese have proved how great the West really is and the freedom and opportunity it offers them. Well i am not even going to discuss black people, these people will never accept blame and the statistics, they will cry foul of discrimination until they are blue in the face, its a shame really as their leaders offer no solutions just blame.

Sorry for the rant guys but i have many Indian and Sikh friends here in the UK, not only do they love this Country and more than loyal to it, check the World War stats and you will see how many brave Sikhs fought and died for the British cause (these are loyal people), they also hate these Pakis Arabs and their dirty religion with a vengeance. I hope some of you have been a little more educated with this post regrading brown people. please feel free to ask brown people in your own lives on what ethnic background they belong to, you maybe very surprised by their own views and thoughts.

RANT and MELTDOWN over - i know this post is racist and simplistic but i have really had enough. Nothing works with these Arabs i have realised their is no diplomatic solution, hate is all they understand.
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: Deicide on September 11, 2008, 07:12:34 AM
Where will you move next, racist? Or will you just end it all...soon?

Racist?, statistics man...that's all...
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: ironneck on September 11, 2008, 07:19:59 AM
In Italy we have an albanian and gypsy problem.  The albanians are essentially our "mexicans"  they are just looking for construction work.  They are pretty good bricklayers.  Gypsies however are really annoying people that have kids and live like american trailer trash.  They like to pickpocket.   Arabs could never live in italy.  It's just waaay too catholic for them.    Plus, italians  hate all foreigners, they even hate other italians that speak different dialects.  We don't welcome anyone or act politically correct to anyone except americans.  And that's because their bases bring jobs, security and dr. pepper. 


haha you italians aren't better
you know how many of you live in germany?


you are all racists...look the whole world is international right now
you know how many germans live in canada?
you know how many nigerians live in holland?

you know how many turks,kurds,arabs,persians,serbs,albanians,gypsies,slovenians,polskas,russians,italians,portuguese etc etc live in germany?
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: Meso_z on September 11, 2008, 07:24:01 AM
In Italy we have an albanian and gypsy problem.  The albanians are essentially our "mexicans"  they are just looking for construction work.  They are pretty good bricklayers.  Gypsies however are really annoying people that have kids and live like american trailer trash.  They like to pickpocket.   Arabs could never live in italy.  It's just waaay too catholic for them.    Plus, italians  hate all foreigners, they even hate other italians that speak different dialects.  We don't welcome anyone or act politically correct to anyone except americans.  And that's because their bases bring jobs, security and dr. pepper.  

Oh, these albanians..... >:(
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: SUPREME BEING on September 11, 2008, 07:28:24 AM

haha you italians aren't better
you know how many of you live in germany?


you are all racists...look the whole world is international right now
you know how many germans live in canada?
you know how many nigerians live in holland?

you know how many turks,kurds,arabs,persians,serbs,albanians,gypsies,slovenians,polskas,russians,italians,portuguese etc etc live in germany?

Also, what many Whites don't understand is that from a historical perspective it is us who has invaded the whole world. We are the worldwide immigrants creating empires and raping resources from others for many years. You can't keep crying when others now do the exact same thing we once did. We all want to get ahead in life and want the best for our kids, this is why so many are desperate to come to the West.

However, if you are like Pakis and Arabs who show now allegiance to the Country, incite hatred, want you own rules then these guys should be punished. It is a simple as that, other immigrants should not have to take the fall for these disgusting groups. Please don't lose faith in all immigration as Economically speaking you would most likely be screwed, please remember their are still hard working immigrants willing to come in and do our dirty work while allowing their children to be educated.
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: GhostDog on September 11, 2008, 07:28:50 AM
 serious arabs suck and have no sense of humor. we need funny, irreverent arabs who can at themselves
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: ironneck on September 11, 2008, 07:36:24 AM
i agree that many immigrants should behave better...because of many of the other turks i can't get in any disco...but i am fully integrated and a nice guy  :'(
of course there are just as many stupid germans but hey they have blue eyes
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: headhuntersix on September 11, 2008, 07:40:04 AM
Most of you are racist Morons looking for scapegoats and easy solutions. You get you stats from clowns like the BNP and think their really is such a big problem.

I have heard so many times in the UK that Paki's are taking all the jobs - even though i dislike most Pakis with a vegeance due to their pathetic religious beliefs i still find nearly most people have no clue about immigration.

Here are stats from UK 2001 Census which is most accurate representation of population in UK.
Have a look for yourselves and see if they are really taking over.
Asians and Asian British make up 4% of population and Arabs or Muslims make up 1.8%.

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=273 (http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=273)
2008 estimitates show no significant increase in this ethnic goups population in the UK.

Apart from the stats i have to say Governments need to change in UK regrading their Pro Muslim stance. Mosques should be infiltrated and constantly monitored without any objection of human rights violations as we all know this is where they get their ridiculous religious propaganda.
Any Muslim seen inciting hatred towards the West should be deported - simple as that. The problem is the freedom these great Western Countries has gone too far, liberal pussies mean we can no longer enforce our own rules without the legal system messing things up. Certain things need to change and i don't mean befriending Pakis or community integration.

Pakis will never change for many many years to come, their dumbass religious beliefs are instilled in them from a young age. What i don't want to see is other good brown skinned fellows being hated and mistaken for Pakis.

Media and newspapers should stop referring to Asian riots or Asian youths, Asia is a big place and Chinese and Indians are a fantastic addition to our society. They both work hard, start businesses and pay help our Economies in a vital manner. I just wish many of you more ignorant Get biggers will see this injustice towards all Brown people.

Some education is needed - please note that Brown people who wear Turbans and drive your cabs are Indians and Sikhs - these are very good people who work hard and have done very well when they arrived in the West - they got on with it even though they suffered discrimination from the early years. Unlike Black people and Pakis who still cry foul of racial discrimination and White men keeping them down, Indians and Chinese have proved how great the West really is and the freedom and opportunity it offers them. Well i am not even going to discuss black people, these people will never accept blame and the statistics, they will cry foul of discrimination until they are blue in the face, its a shame really as their leaders offer no solutions just blame.

Sorry for the rant guys but i have many Indian and Sikh friends here in the UK, not only do they love this Country and more than loyal to it, check the World War stats and you will see how many brave Sikhs fought and died for the British cause (these are loyal people), they also hate these Pakis Arabs and their dirty religion with a vengeance. I hope some of you have been a little more educated with this post regrading brown people. please feel free to ask brown people in your own lives on what ethnic background they belong to, you maybe very surprised by their own views and thoughts.

RANT and MELTDOWN over - i know this post is racist and simplistic but i have really had enough. Nothing works with these Arabs i have realised their is no diplomatic solution, hate is all they understand.


The guy wase  nailing the Muslims....arabs etc. Sikhs and Indians hate muslims. Indians have been part of the UK for more then a century.....its not brownies its the rags
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: emn1964 on September 11, 2008, 07:41:47 AM
If you lived in that shit hole sand dune middle east would you want to stay?  Tighten up the borders and start kicking the fuckers out and back to the caves they crawled out of.  They are by far the lowest form of human life.
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: ironneck on September 11, 2008, 07:45:35 AM
If you lived in that shit hole sand dune middle east would you want to stay?  Tighten up the borders and start kicking the fuckers out and back to the caves they crawled out of.  They are by far the lowest form of human life.


i really really hope you are just joking
one day the usa won't be the nr. one country anymore and then my friend you will beg other countries to let you in
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: emn1964 on September 11, 2008, 07:47:05 AM

i really really hope you are just joking
one day the usa won't be the nr. one country anymore and then my friend you will beg other countries to let you in

not in this century.  us is no. 1 in all aspects of life.  that's why we are so hated around the world-jealousy.
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: webcake on September 11, 2008, 07:50:32 AM
In Italy we have an albanian and gypsy problem.  The albanians are essentially our "mexicans"  they are just looking for construction work.  They are pretty good bricklayers.  Gypsies however are really annoying people that have kids and live like american trailer trash.  They like to pickpocket.   Arabs could never live in italy.  It's just waaay too catholic for them.    Plus, italians  hate all foreigners, they even hate other italians that speak different dialects.  We don't welcome anyone or act politically correct to anyone except americans.  And that's because their bases bring jobs, security and dr. pepper.  

I take it dinner has been cooked and the kitchen is clean?
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: JBGRAY on September 11, 2008, 07:58:14 AM
Western Europe will be finished soon enough.  All of it's native European populations are well below Birth Replacement Rates with Spain being near the bottom with an average of 1.2 children per woman.  If these trends continue, there will be an almost 2:1 Young to Elderly ratio if population trends and demographics remain unchanged.  Europe will counter this trend by bringing in even more immigrants from the middle east, North Africa, and sub-Saharan Africa.  While it is understood by most that the great majority of these immigrants seek nothing more than work and better living conditions, the fact of the matter is that as they gain greater influence and population numbers, the culture will change dramatically.  It is highly unlikely that the new majority will readily embrace "progressive" and "liberal" ideals such as gay rights, religious freedom, and minority rights.  Native Europeans will soon become a near powerless minority in their own countries of origin.......which is often greeted with fanfare as it is seen by some to alleviate post-Colonial guilt.

This is primarily the fault of the West in general, a weakness in its progressiveness and overall constitution, rather than overt attempts by various immigrant populations to assert their culture and ways of life into the mainstream.  Crushing taxes, the rise of feminism and the homosexual agenda, lax immigration policies, falling birth replacement rates, and an overall sense of "guilt" by various European governments in its past treatment of other nations and peoples are all helping to ensure the future doesn't belong to native Europeans.  The Muslim populations moving in seem to desire the exact opposite: They aggressively spread their culture and religion, possess a strong adherence to the nuclear and extended family, and have no qualms at all in using up the numerous social programs offered by the state.  

Japan and Israel face similar situations, although they are not as far gone as Europe.  Only Muslim Albania seems to buck the population trends.  Russia, which also faces serious population reduction problems, is using incentive programs for women to have children rather than flooding its nation with young immigrants.  
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: emn1964 on September 11, 2008, 07:59:20 AM
Western Europe will be finished soon enough.  All of it's native European populations are well below Birth Replacement Rates with Spain being near the bottom with an average of 1.2 children per woman.  If these trends continue, there will be an almost 2:1 Young to Elderly ratio if population trends and demographics remain unchanged.  Europe will counter this trend by bringing in even more immigrants from the middle east, North Africa, and sub-Saharan Africa.  While it is understood by most that the great majority of these immigrants seek nothing more than work and better living conditions, the fact of the matter is that as they gain greater influence and population numbers, the culture will change dramatically.  It is highly unlikely that the new majority will readily embrace "progressive" and "liberal" ideals such as gay rights, religious freedom, and minority rights.  Native Europeans will soon become a near powerless minority in their own countries of origin.......which is often greeted with fanfare as it is seen by some to alleviate post-Colonial guilt.

This is primarily the fault of the West in general, a weakness in its progressiveness and overall constitution, rather than overt attempts by various immigrant populations to assert their culture and ways of life into the mainstream.  Crushing taxes, the rise of feminism and the homosexual agenda, lax immigration policies, falling birth replacement rates, and an overall sense of "guilt" by various European governments in its past treatment of other nations and peoples are all helping to ensure the future doesn't belong to native Europeans.  The Muslim populations moving in seem to desire the exact opposite: They aggressively spread their culture and religion, possess a strong adherence to the nuclear and extended family, and have no qualms at all in using up the numerous social programs offered by the state.  

Japan and Israel face similar situations, although they are not as far gone as Europe.  Only Muslim Albania seems to buck the population trends.  Russia, which also faces serious population reduction problems, is using incentive programs for women to have children rather than flooding its nation with young immigrants.  

Can you please provide an executive summary to these cut and paste posts.  Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: JBGRAY on September 11, 2008, 08:09:40 AM
Can you please provide an executive summary to these cut and paste posts.  Thanks in advance

I actually wrote it.  :P
I've written a few like these before.

Summary:
-Falling native European population
-Rising muslim and immigrant population
-native europeans become minorities
-Western ideals and philosophies replaced by Muslim ones
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: emn1964 on September 11, 2008, 08:15:28 AM
I actually wrote it.  :P
I've written a few like these before.

Summary:
-Falling native European population
-Rising muslim and immigrant population
-native europeans become minorities
-Western ideals and philosophies replaced by Muslim ones

Thanks for your help.  But your last point is incorrect.  They will, and have, adopted western culture.
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: ironneck on September 11, 2008, 08:57:48 AM
Thanks for your help.  But your last point is incorrect.  They will, and have, adopted western culture.


no
he is right in a way...i wouldn't say replaced but many muslims bring their culture with them
..anyway,religion is bullshit,believing in god is ok but all the shit that's written in all these books are nothing but lies...some hundred years ago arabia was way more developed than europe,hell the europeans even learned to wash themselves and use soap from the arabs...and now?the religion is keeping asia down!without it the world would be much more equal! look at turkey,the only country which is modern in westasia and even turkey would do much better without religion
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: noworries on September 11, 2008, 09:26:30 AM
I wish the USA had a serious Arab immigration problem.  Arab bitches are by far the hottest IMO.  There's just not enought of them.  I wish we could trade a few million Mexicans for some Arabs and Persians. 

Yea they are hot till they take that robe off their head
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: ironneck on September 11, 2008, 09:27:47 AM
Yea they are hot till they take that robe off their head

hi george bush
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: Hereford on September 11, 2008, 10:35:42 AM
Where will you move next, racist? Or will you just end it all...soon?

I love how if anyone ever has a problem with the behavior of a specific ethinc group fags like this jump their $hit. They never even attempt to debate, examine or defend the real issue at hand.  Just personal insults, that's all they got... ::)
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: Deicide on September 11, 2008, 12:19:03 PM
I love how if anyone ever has a problem with the behavior of a specific ethinc group fags like this jump their $hit. They never even attempt to debate, examine or defend the real issue at hand.  Just personal insults, that's all they got... ::)

Exactly my thoughts....
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: youandme on September 11, 2008, 12:31:41 PM
So I have been back for a little over a month in Germany and all I see are fucking Arabs...2 weeks ago a crazy Arab tried to stab my friend to death with a broken bottle. Some other Arabs stole stuff from his flat (where I am staying). A few years back whilst living in France my flat was broken into by Arabs and I was assaulted by a bunch of them in Paris; another friend of mine was tied up and beaten up by Arabs in his own flat in Brussels some years back. Everywhere I look there are fucking menacing Arabs committing crimes left and right; at least Mexicans keep vegetable prices low in the states; the Arabs mooch off the social state and rob, brutalise and kill Europeans. Is it too late to save Europe?

Discuss...

Geeshh. Well at least you made it out alive. You having second thoughts about living where your living at now?

I think it is too late to save Europe, they have already taken over long ago. I heard on a news channel that some British politicians are actually going to run on a anti-muslims platform, to regain their rights.


Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: Deicide on September 11, 2008, 12:43:22 PM
Geeshh. Well at least you made it out alive. You having second thoughts about living where your living at now?

I think it is too late to save Europe, they have already taken over long ago. I heard on a news channel that some British politicians are actually going to run on a anti-muslims platform, to regain their rights.




BNP
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: youandme on September 11, 2008, 12:47:00 PM
BNP

Gotcha
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: George Whorewell on September 11, 2008, 01:04:20 PM
You are confusing westernization with modernization. All this means is that the youth listen to hip-hop, eat at McDonalds and own cell-phones. The ideas of acceptance, tolerance, freedom of speech and action are not adopted as is evidenced across the globe in areas with large muslim populations and especially in Europe. Doesn't mean much as they butcher jews, homosexuals and women while nodding their heads to the newest 50 cent track- chow down on McDonalds after dark on ramadan while roving the streets looking for more victims and show live beheadings to their friends and class mates on their cell-phones.
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: Deicide on September 11, 2008, 01:08:46 PM
You are confusing westernization with modernization. All this means is that the youth listen to hip-hop, eat at McDonalds and own cell-phones. The ideas of acceptance, tolerance, freedom of speech and action are not adopted as is evidenced across the globe in areas with large muslim populations and especially in Europe. Doesn't mean much as they butcher jews, homosexuals and women while nodding their heads to the newest 50 cent track- chow down on McDonalds after dark on ramadan while roving the streets looking for more victims and show live beheadings to their friends and class mates on their cell-phones.

Plague in Europe.... :-X
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on September 11, 2008, 02:51:33 PM
Will "Europe" as we know it be destroyed before I get a chance to come visit?  ???  >:(
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: calfzilla on September 11, 2008, 07:27:27 PM
Yea they are hot till they take that robe off their head
Don't get me wrong, the ugly ones are FUGLY, but the hot ones are smokin hot. 
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: TerminalPower on September 11, 2008, 09:18:05 PM
The better question (imntbho) is will be cowardly enough to allow it to happen?
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: Deicide on September 12, 2008, 04:14:42 AM
Will "Europe" as we know it be destroyed before I get a chance to come visit?  ???  >:(

You can visit right now...just be sure to memorise the 5 pillars of Islam...
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: Benny B on September 12, 2008, 04:19:26 AM
You can visit right now...just be sure to memorise the 5 pillars of Islam...
Perhaps one of those Arabs will put a burner to your dome and end it all for you, thereby freeing us of your worthless threads.
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: Nordic Superman on September 12, 2008, 04:44:30 AM
SUPREME BEING, I agree with your stance, muslim Pakis have ruined it for a lot of other brown skinned racial groups. Indians and Chinese certainly are sound from my experience.

But in regards to statistics you forgot to mention that in the UK the ratio of native babies born to non-native is 2:1 - I can assure you that a very large majory of the non-native babies born are of Paki origin. That's 1 in every 3 babies born. You seriously don't think that is a problem?

Also, what many Whites don't understand is that from a historical perspective it is us who has invaded the whole world. We are the worldwide immigrants creating empires and raping resources from others for many years. You can't keep crying when others now do the exact same thing we once did. We all want to get ahead in life and want the best for our kids, this is why so many are desperate to come to the West.

White's did what was necessary. Muslims invaded Europe, Chinese the Asian planes,  Persians attempted to gain Greece - they're all guilty of WANTING TO DO IT. I'm not going to sit here berating my race because white Europeans were the only ones to do it successfully. Isn't it funny how documentaries "big-up" other civilizations empires... but when Britain ruled the world it's somehow negative, even tho we passed on our government style and formed success in those countries: US, Indian, Canada, Australia etc.

If it wasn't whites, it would have been someone else and I can assure you, whoever that someone else would have been it would have been A LOT WORSE. White European ideals are the most fare that have existed.
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: SUPREME BEING on September 12, 2008, 07:24:55 AM
SUPREME BEING, I agree with your stance, muslim Pakis have ruined it for a lot of other brown skinned racial groups. Indians and Chinese certainly are sound from my experience.

But in regards to statistics you forgot to mention that in the UK the ratio of native babies born to non-native is 2:1 - I can assure you that a very large majory of the non-native babies born are of Paki origin. That's 1 in every 3 babies born. You seriously don't think that is a problem?

White's did what was necessary. Muslims invaded Europe, Chinese the Asian planes,  Persians attempted to gain Greece - they're all guilty of WANTING TO DO IT. I'm not going to sit here berating my race because white Europeans were the only ones to do it successfully. Isn't it funny how documentaries "big-up" other civilizations empires... but when Britain ruled the world it's somehow negative, even tho we passed on our government style and formed success in those countries: US, Indian, Canada, Australia etc.

If it wasn't whites, it would have been someone else and I can assure you, whoever that someone else would have been it would have been A LOT WORSE. White European ideals are the most fare that have existed.

I understand what you are saying Nordic, i agree in the past every Country needed an empire, whites being the most successful in recent times. However, certain misconceptions with this fact that whites improved every Country they invaded, this is technically untrue - if you look at the empire, Whites did improve various Countries particular African Countries but they caused a mess in India.

India was very rich in terms of wealth, they had tea, natural abundance of raw materials, cloth, jewellery (even today 9 out of 10 diamonds come from India) and had vast kingdoms. Whites being superior in warfare and general democracy took control by the typical divide and conquer which worked rather well in a land rules by various kings and kingdoms. Maharajahs were told they would receive power if the were to help the invaders and hence a lot of the fighting in India was from Indian kingdoms fighting themselves.

I have looked at our history and i am really going into more depth into our occupation of India but i have too say we had more of a negative effect there. Sure we built the railroads but this was only to facilitate our own trade by taking resources and shipping them to London. Anyway i am digressing from the point here, i don't think the empire should be seen as a negative thing but i do also recognise the need for immigrants who are hungry and willing to work hard to provide a better future for their children. I cannot hate these immigrants coming in but some serious checks should be in place to recognise if they can bring value to this Country.

I understand your concern of ratio of native babies born to non-native is 2:1 but this is the price of globalisation. We have to take into account that many British also emigrate abroad to place like Australia and Spain should these also be viewed as scum?
A lot of people don't realise is this population concern of yours will die out - as other emerging nations keep growing e.g. India and China a lot of these newly arrived immigrants will go back for better opportunities.
Please remember most that arrive here will go back as soon as the opportunities dry up. Look at the Polish as an example, many have started to leave as back in Poland they are begging for workers for construction sites.

My solution to your problem is easy: 1. Vote Conservative and get rid of this socialist labour governments.
2. Make claiming unemployment benefit a lot of harder - makes these people struggle for not having a job.
3. Child support benefits - should be on a scale basis of number of children you have e.g. if not working and you have more than 2 children then you do not get child support for the 3rd child. We need to make it hard for single parents to survive without a job, not easier. When the Pakis realise they can no longer get by with having more than 2 children they will soon revert back to less children.
4. Any person seen inciting hatred should be deported - this needs radical law change.
5. Mosques should be monitored without complaint.
6. Government needs to give incentives and education for ethnic minorities in low income brackets to have less children - this means some sort of income tax allowance if they have less than 2 kids.
7. End all this bullshit about teaching Islam and religion in schools - religion has no place in schools.

My major point being that life with more children should be made a lot harder - i mean a damn lot harder, i have had enough of single parents boasting about the free flat the government has provided them. Once these people recognise they cannot lead a decent life with more children they will cut back.
Also, i am believer in free trade and globalisation as long as every race is hard working unlike Blacks and Pakis. I don't see integration as much of a problem - what is of more concern to me is the effect on Economies - i am an Economist and i am simply interested in higher living standard for myself. As developing Countries grow the world will be a richer place and in the next 50 years you may see a lot of migration from UK to places like India.

According to an August 2008 article in the Daily Mail, 3.7% of children born in England and Wales in 2005 where fully blooded (as apposed to mixed race) Pakistanis, meaning that by 2031 when the UK is expected to peak in population at 71 million,[4] there could be in excess of 2,630,000 British Pakistanis.
This means even in 2031 by the current statistic projections Pakistanis will still only make up 3.7% of the population. Sure that is an increase but nothing spectacular is it? Please take into account that as we integrate to globalisation we generally accepted that the cross section of the population would become more mixed. I don't think we have that much to worry about just yet Nordic.
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: Nordic Superman on September 13, 2008, 10:42:40 AM
SUPREME BEING, India is one of the fastest growing economies on Earth, they will eclipse a lot of Western countries soon if current trends continue. Sure, we the Brits didn't do a perfect job, but if you think their wealth in resources would allow their own governance to develop in what is projected I think that's false. The capitalism and democracy Britain brought to these countries via English Common Law (which also laid the foundation for the US constitution and legal system and also for other countries in the Empire) provided the platform for modern India.

Yes the ratio thing is a result of globalisation which Britain is the main proponent and creator of... but that doesn't make me feel any more comfortable with the fact, I want the situation to be rectified.

Your 1-7 list is sound, except maybe 1. The Tories won't change things, Britain has adopted too much of the EU socialist agenda for any party to remove from our government. We need to take the Scandinavian method and adopt the free trade aspects of the EU super state system, not the imposition of laws from Brussels.

I would add to your list extremely strict immigration policies for the near future. Limit the immigrants from muslim nations (lets face facts, they're mostly undesirables) especially militant countries like Somalia.

Nationalisation via marriage laws (heavily utilised by Pakistanis) should also be made stricter.
Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: w8tlftr on September 13, 2008, 01:19:17 PM
In Italy we have an albanian and gypsy problem.  The albanians are essentially our "mexicans"  they are just looking for construction work.  They are pretty good bricklayers.  Gypsies however are really annoying people that have kids and live like american trailer trash.  They like to pickpocket.   Arabs could never live in italy.  It's just waaay too catholic for them.    Plus, italians  hate all foreigners, they even hate other italians that speak different dialects.  We don't welcome anyone or act politically correct to anyone except americans.  And that's because their bases bring jobs, security and dr. pepper. 

I had the privilege of working in Messina for a couple weeks around 10 years ago.

I was impressed by how friendly and polite everyone was.

Title: Re: Does Europe suffer from serious Arab immigration problems?
Post by: w8tlftr on September 13, 2008, 01:28:20 PM
SUPREME BEING, India is one of the fastest growing economies on Earth, they will eclipse a lot of Western countries soon if current trends continue. Sure, we the Brits didn't do a perfect job, but if you think their wealth in resources would allow their own governance to develop in what is projected I think that's false. The capitalism and democracy Britain brought to these countries via English Common Law (which also laid the foundation for the US constitution and legal system and also for other countries in the Empire) provided the platform for modern India.

Yes the ratio thing is a result of globalisation which Britain is the main proponent and creator of... but that doesn't make me feel any more comfortable with the fact, I want the situation to be rectified.

Your 1-7 list is sound, except maybe 1. The Tories won't change things, Britain has adopted too much of the EU socialist agenda for any party to remove from our government. We need to take the Scandinavian method and adopt the free trade aspects of the EU super state system, not the imposition of laws from Brussels.

I would add to your list extremely strict immigration policies for the near future. Limit the immigrants from muslim nations (lets face facts, they're mostly undesirables) especially militant countries like Somalia.

Nationalisation via marriage laws (heavily utilised by Pakistanis) should also be made stricter.

Holy shit.

An intelligent well thought out discussion.

Kudos to you two.