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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: headhuntersix on September 15, 2008, 03:51:48 PM
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Islamic law has been officially adopted in Britain, with sharia courts given powers to rule on Muslim civil cases.
The government has quietly sanctioned the powers for sharia judges to rule on cases ranging from divorce and financial disputes to those involving domestic violence.
Rulings issued by a network of five sharia courts are enforceable with the full power of the judicial system, through county courts or the country's High Court, a part of its Supreme Court system.
Previously, the rulings of sharia courts in Britain could not be enforced, and depended on voluntary compliance among Muslims.
Politicians and church leaders expressed concerns that this could mark the beginnings of a “parallel legal system” based on sharia for some British Muslims.
Dominic Grieve, the shadow home secretary, said: “If it is true that these tribunals are passing binding decisions in the areas of family and criminal law, I would like to know which courts are enforcing them because I would consider such action unlawful. British law is absolute and must remain so.”
Give it up and move to Canada...let the rags have it all. How depressing......
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Well lookie here, ...it's GetBig's very own Paul Revere
(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/inages/Frightenedmouse.gif)
The muslims are comin' The muslims are comin' The muslims are comin' ::)
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Bet ya won't be so smug about it when they start making ya wear the burka in Ontario.....
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Islamic law has been officially adopted in Britain, with sharia courts given powers to rule on Muslim civil cases.
The government has quietly sanctioned the powers for sharia judges to rule on cases ranging from divorce and financial disputes to those involving domestic violence.
Rulings issued by a network of five sharia courts are enforceable with the full power of the judicial system, through county courts or the country's High Court, a part of its Supreme Court system.
Previously, the rulings of sharia courts in Britain could not be enforced, and depended on voluntary compliance among Muslims.
Politicians and church leaders expressed concerns that this could mark the beginnings of a “parallel legal system” based on sharia for some British Muslims.
Dominic Grieve, the shadow home secretary, said: “If it is true that these tribunals are passing binding decisions in the areas of family and criminal law, I would like to know which courts are enforcing them because I would consider such action unlawful. British law is absolute and must remain so.”
Give it up and move to Canada...let the rags have it all. How depressing......
Goddammit why do islam feel the need to control everything, Britain's legal system is fine, leave it alone. Fuckin pricks.
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Ridiculous... That is absolutely ridiculous.
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The British have finally passed the French for biggest pussies in Europe. Talk about pathetic.
Looking forward to the name change to the "Islamic Republic of Britainia". ::)
Well lookie here, ...it's GetBig's very own Paul Revere
(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/inages/Frightenedmouse.gif)
The muslims are comin' The muslims are comin' The muslims are comin' ::)
They usually stone to death old, bulldyke women who are well past their prime for marriage in moslem societies. That or push them into slavery. :D
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The government has quietly sanctioned the powers for sharia judges to rule on cases ranging from divorce and financial disputes to those involving domestic violence.
Seriously, WTF has happened to Great Britain?
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holy crap
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Is there a source for this ?
Sounds like bollocks to me.
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Bet ya won't be so smug about it when they start making ya wear the burka in Ontario.....
Do you have any idea how much money I'd save on clothes, hair stylists, and makeup if burkas became mandatory?
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Now THOSE are sentiments I can get behind! Organized Dogmatic Religion is bullshit!!!
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If this is true then it is bullshit - if you're not happy with the country's legal system then get the hell out.
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Do you have any idea how much money I'd save on clothes, hair stylists, and makeup if burkas became mandatory?
An excellent point. :)
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Ok... found something.
It appears to be true.
BUT
According to this article:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article4749183.ece
BOTH parties must agree to it, or it will not be valid:
"Under the act, the sharia courts are classified as arbitration tribunals. The rulings of arbitration tribunals are binding in law, provided that both parties in the dispute agree to give it the power to rule on their case."
That's acceptible... If you don't follow the religion, you're not held by it.
It's not exactly a court either... It's a tribunal.
It's like giving up your right to regular court to get on Judge Judy.
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Is there a source for this ?
Sounds like bollocks to me.
Dude it's HH6.....GetBig's resident Islamofascist provocateur.........lol.
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Its still a very dangerous precident. There should be one law of the land. Muslims need to assimilate if they move into non-muslim countries. I would never move somewhere and try to push my ways, laws & religions on other. You adapt and assimilate while keeping some of your traditions & values in the home.
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WOW.
When did the brits lose their GONADS?
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Dude it's HH6.....GetBig's resident Islamofascist provocateur.........lol.
Look its getbigs naive never been anywhere has no idea what he's talking about 6'6 250lbs monster.
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HH6, if you keep failing to source shit, I'm going to shit all over you. Source it before I go dictator.
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Its all over the net...and before u melt down on me..that asshole Benny does the same thing. This was on Fox, CNN, etc etc etc.
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Its all over the net...and before u melt down on me..that asshole Benny does the same thing. This was on Fox, CNN, etc etc etc.
what really bugs me is when hard to believe stuff is posted without any source. If benny did it, I didn't see it. Fucking source this kind of shit. if it's all over it should only take you a few seconds.
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HH6, what's the big deal? just link it.
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Its no big deal but when I get picked out while a guy I consider a worthless douche, gets a pass...I get a little pissed.
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Sharia courts operating in Britain TELEGRAPH UK.....good enough.
Sharia courts have been operating in Britain to rule on disputes between Muslims for more than a year, it has emerged.
Five sharia courts have been set up in London, Birmingham, Bradford and Manchester and Nuneaton, Warwickshire. The government has quietly sanctioned that their rulings are enforceable with the full power of the judicial system, through the county courts or High Court. Previously, the rulings were not binding and depended on voluntary compliance among Muslims.
Lawyers have issued grave warnings about the dangers of a dual legal system and the disclosure drew criticism from Opposition leaders.
Dominic Grieve, the shadow home secretary, said: "If it is true that these tribunals are passing binding decisions in the areas of family and criminal law, I would like to know which courts are enforcing them because I would consider such action unlawful. British law is absolute and must remain so."
Douglas Murray, the director of the Centre for Social Cohesion, added: "I think it's appalling. I don't think arbitration that is done by sharia should ever be endorsed or enforced by the British state."
Muslim tribunal courts started passing sharia judgments in August 2007. They have dealt with more than 100 cases that range from Muslim divorce and inheritance to nuisance neighbours.
It has also emerged that tribunal courts have settled six cases of domestic violence between married couples, working in tandem with the police investigations.
Sheikh Faiz-ul-Aqtab Siddiqi, whose Muslim Arbitration Tribunal runs the courts, said that sharia courts are classified as arbitration tribunals under a clause in the Arbitration Act 1996.
The rulings of arbitration tribunals are binding in law, provided that both parties in the dispute agree to give it the power to rule on their case.
The disclosures come after Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, sparked a national debate and calls for his resignation for saying that the establishment of sharia in the future "seems unavoidable" in Britain.
In July, Lord Phillips of Worth Matravers, the Lord Chief Justice agreed that Muslims in Britain should be able to live according to Islamic law to decide financial and marital disputes.
Mr Siddiqi said he expected the courts to handle a greater number of "smaller" criminal cases in coming years as more Muslim clients approach them. Two more courts are being planned for Glasgow and Edinburgh.
"All we are doing is regulating community affairs in these cases," said Mr Siddiqi, chairman of the governing council of the tribunal.
There are concerns for women suffering under the Islamic laws, which favours men.
Mr Siddiqi said that in a recent inheritance dispute handled by the court in Nuneaton, the estate of a Midlands man was divided between three daughters and two sons.
The judges on the panel gave the sons twice as much as the daughters, in accordance with sharia. Had the family gone to a normal British court, the daughters would have got equal amounts.
In the six cases of domestic violence, Mr Siddiqi said the judges ordered the husbands to take anger management classes and mentoring from community elders. There was no further punishment.
In each case, the women subsequently withdrew the complaints they had lodged with the police and the police stopped their investigations.
Mr Siddiqi said that in the domestic violence cases, the advantage was that marriages were saved and couples given a second chance.
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,422661,00.html
Ok, what the hell is wrong with the brits. I've been bitching about their crazy police state which is creeping it's way over here. This is stupid. that place is a lost cause. Why HH6 supports the crazy shit happening here is beyond me. We should actually be looking at GB as a daily example of what NOT to do.
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Its no big deal but when I get picked out while a guy I consider a worthless douche, gets a pass...I get a little pissed.
For what it's worth, I hardly ever read the others guys posts. :)
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Its no big deal but when I get picked out while a guy I consider a worthless douche, gets a pass...I get a little pissed.
Oh shut the fuck up... nobody's getting banned over not linking, I'm just bitching about it because it's annoying as all hell when someone posts a story that's a pretty big WTF without sourcing it... If it makes your crying ass feel any better, I'll ask Benny to do it when I see him post a whopper. ::)
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Relax Hugo........
Yeah I support Sharia law....Hugo buddy, chill.
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Relax Hugo........
Yeah I support Sharia law....Hugo buddy, chill.
::) You support all the other hairbrained crap out of GB...
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Like what......ur kidding right. My only point ever about GB, is that their ridiculous brand of PC bullshit ends up over here in some diluted manner.
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Relax Hugo........
Yeah I support Sharia law....Hugo buddy, chill.
I totally support it... The people who agree to it are obviously terrorists and if they agree to getting their heads chopped off, or some other shit... That's just one less terrorist I have to worry about.
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The Russians also came and now they're here - I like them.
I'm cool with Muslims, too, but when they marry in the States, then they submit to the laws of the States. If they wish to continue living under their traditional laws, then they need to live in places where those laws are in place.
The U.S., Canada, and the U.K. should NOT be those places.
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Its all over the net...and before u melt down on me..that asshole Benny does the same thing. This was on Fox, CNN, etc etc etc.
Yeah. Big friggin deal. If you were paraphrasing a story you heard that would be one thing, but looks like you cut and pasted a story, but didn't post a link. :'( ::) People need to quit whining about a link already. People with a history of posting false stories/statements should post links. You're not one of those people.
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I agree 100% Tre. I don't understand why that is not the prevailing opinion of most/all.
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The UK and Europe in general have a poor record of absorbing and assimilating these people. We seem to do better with no matter who comes.
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OK, I want all the liberal sissy's who post here that bend over backwards to whine about Muslim's not being a threat to civilzed society justify this bullshit. This in and of itself is not that big a deal. (In America latitude is given to Orthodox Jews to settle civil and marital disputes in their own rabbinical courts) However, this is one step toward the Muslims setting up a separate society along side the rest of us and then outbreeding us until they become the controlling majority. The radical fundamentalist cockroaches who are the spearheads of Islam have stated in no uncertain terms, their goal is to set up world wide Sharia law- Non believers convert or die.
Liberalism has infected the EU and that same stench of appeasement and cowardice as well as the marginalization of Western society's traditions will waft into America if Obama is elected. Moral relativism only seems to apply to Muslims and minorities. The rest of us will have to serve the allegedly downtrodden to make up for injustices we never perpatrated or that never existed in the first place.
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It always leaks over here in some way.
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so canadianenterprises and terminalpower are buddies now?
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so canadianenterprises and terminalpower are buddies now?
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Knowing TerminalPower like I do... I highly doubt that.
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How long till the United States sees something like this?
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How long till the United States sees something like this?
Not in my lifetime.
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This is unfucking believable.
I wonder how long before they have their first public stoning?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article4749183.ece
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Imagine being a cop over there. My cousin is a London cop. It really has to suck.
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Its still a very dangerous precident. There should be one law of the land. Muslims need to assimilate if they move into non-muslim countries. I would never move somewhere and try to push my ways, laws & religions on other. You adapt and assimilate while keeping some of your traditions & values in the home.
That is what is key here. If you CHOOSE to move to another country you accept that countries laws, you dont change it to suit you.
What do you think would happen if a bunch of poms moved to Saudi Arabia and demanded they obey English law and Catholic religious practices...
Bunch of PC halfwits
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Islamic law has been officially adopted in Britain, with sharia courts given powers to rule on Muslim civil cases.
The government has quietly sanctioned the powers for sharia judges to rule on cases ranging from divorce and financial disputes to those involving domestic violence.
Rulings issued by a network of five sharia courts are enforceable with the full power of the judicial system, through county courts or the country's High Court, a part of its Supreme Court system.
Previously, the rulings of sharia courts in Britain could not be enforced, and depended on voluntary compliance among Muslims.
Politicians and church leaders expressed concerns that this could mark the beginnings of a “parallel legal system” based on sharia for some British Muslims.
Dominic Grieve, the shadow home secretary, said: “If it is true that these tribunals are passing binding decisions in the areas of family and criminal law, I would like to know which courts are enforcing them because I would consider such action unlawful. British law is absolute and must remain so.”
Give it up and move to Canada...let the rags have it all. How depressing......
This will be where it really hurts...especially in rape cases
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I am English. I left England 10 years ago and have lived in the US, Denmark, Netherlands, Japan & Thailand.
In each place I have lived, I have respected the laws & culture of that country. In Thailand, if it's 8am or 6pm & I'm in a public place when the national anthem is played, then I stand still like everyone else. In Japan there are so many cultural nuances that compliance becomes a full time job. I tried my hardest to do that & it seemed to be appreciated.
The absolute shite that is going on in England now is beyond belief. The country is being run by liberal lunatics & these people are NOT elected officials. They are idiots working in local government, councils etc. that are making rules on our behalf without consulting us.
Police, Judges etc. are not elected yet they are the people that can allow & enforce this.
Sadly, there are few politicians that will stand up to this because it makes them racist.
I visited the UK for the first time in 8 years this June. London is fantastic if you speak Croatian or Polish because that seems to be the main language spoken in all hotel/service staff. It's not that Brits won't do those jobs - just that the Eastern Europeans will work for peanuts. The building trade is the same. English builders can't compete with these untrained muppets. The cities are more 'etchnic' but village life & small-town Britain remains mostly untouched & mostly white. These have always been the nicer places to live but it's only a matter of time before these places are overrun with liberals trying to change the way of life there too.
I shall never return to live there which is a little sad because I always planned to spend my summers there when I retired.
It WILL end in tears.
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Pedro be careful, any second now you'll be called a racist by someone who has never been to England before and that knows about its political dealings much better than you do!