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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Purge_WTF on September 15, 2008, 06:35:04 PM
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News just broke about Palin going back on her word to cooperate with the "Troopergate" investigation. Her argument is that it's a bi-partisan political issue, but three of the officials who issued the (thirteen) subpoenas are Republicans. I had high hopes for this chick, too. :(
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LMAO...
The more American learns about her, the more they're going to see she's mroe of the same.
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Here's the story, I'm not surpised, I expected this would be the advice given to her. It's worked for the Bush admin over and over. I figured this might happen. above the law. not accountable to anyone ::) The new perks of being a republican in the executive branch ::)
http://news.yahoo.com/story//ap/palin_troopergate
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Sarah Palin says she welcomes Troopergate ethics probe into her firing of Walt Monegan
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The funny thing is she is still only the VP candidate and Dems are running comparisons with their Presidential choice.
Not smart.
They are downgrading their own candidate and continuing "more of the same" attack tactics when their claim to fame was "Barack for change". The sad thing is they don't even realize how hypocritical they are.
I say keep it up! PLEASE!
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wait until president obama declares executive privledge for 8 years. Imagine how happy they'll be then.
they're starting to look alike, aren't they? no photoshop here.
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wait until president obama declares executive privledge for 8 years. Imagine how happy they'll be then.
they're starting to look alike, aren't they? no photoshop here.
Yea, i think you would rather fuck Cheney too...since they look alike. Hey I am all for gay rights, just don't go trying to change the definition of the word "marriage".
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Yea, i think you would rather fuck Cheney too...since they look alike. Hey I am all for gay rights, just don't go trying to change the definition of the word "marriage".
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Didn't you say you would fuck her in a post? If not...I detract nothing from my statement :-*.
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she is pretty hot... a poor man's tina fey.
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she is pretty hot... a poor man's tina fey.
She is nice looking, but isn't it Tammy Fay?
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Palin's staff has released a statement that she will not cooperate with the investigation on the grounds that its been "tainted" with politics..... ::)
At least that story is better than the one about cancelling a bodybuilding show due to his car tires being slashed.... ;D
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They have a lot of emails and phone calls that prove she indeed tried to re-open a closed case to have a guy fired.
The same guy that did her sister wrong.
You can't abuse power like that, no matter how tempting it may be. You take an oath to uphold the law. The cop had his day in court, took his penalty, and went on with his life. palin was elected and decided to reopen case.
And if she'll abuse power like that, what will she do when she runs the country?
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Really, let's compare Palin and Obama objectively, since the Republicans claim Palin is Obama's equal, or even that Palin is more qualified to possibly be President.
Undergraduate
Obama
-early undergrad at Occidental college, ranked 37th among liberal arts colleges by US News and World Report
-he did well enough to transfer to Columbia, the third most selective Ivy League college, Columbia being only slightly less selective than Harvard and Yale
Palin
-Went to the University of Idaho. While a decent school, it's considered a third tier school by the US News rankings.
Graduate
Obama
Harvard Law School.
-editor of law review in first year based on grades and writing ability. For those of you who are unaware, this essentially marks him as among the smartest and most able in a group full of very smart and able people.
-President of Law review in his second year. First black president of Harvard Law Review. Again, a very prestigious position, and marks him as both a leader, and as someone of exceptional ability.
-Graduated Magna Cum Laude (highest academic honors), again a significant achievement among a group of significant achievers.
Palin
N/A
Objectively then, Obama is either significantly smarter, harder working or both than Palin. His undergraduate education is objectively and provably better. His grad work proves that he was leaps and bounds beyond Palin in terms of intellectual and leadership ability. You don't get to be President of Harvard Law Review by being average, or a shrinking violet.
Advantage: Obama
Work, non governmental:
BIC-1983-1984
NY Public Interest Research Group-1984-85
Developing Communities Project, Director-85-88
University of Chicago School of Law-Constitutional law lecturer, 92-2004
(University of Chicago is ranked 7th among US Law schools. The fact that Obama got emplyment here, and then was able to continue, marks him as someone exptionally smart and able)
Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, 1993-2004, attorney
Palin
with husband in commercial fishing
and a brief stint as a TV reporter
Advantage: Obama His non-governmental work experience is more diverse, and objectively marks him as someone smarter and more able than Palin.
Governmental Experience
Obama
1997-2004 State senator of Illinois' 13th district. That district has nearly 800,000 people in it.
2005-present Illinois Senator
Palin
City councilwoman of Wasilla, a town of 6k, 1992-1996
Mayor of Wasilla, 1996-2004
governor of Alaska, 2006-present. Note that Alaska has 600k people in the whole state.
Advantage: Obama As both senator and state representative, Obama has experience representing more people, and larger districts with larger issues than does Palin.
Honestly, if you were on the search committee for, say, a board of director's position of a fortune 500 company, who would get the nod, Obama or Palin? It's Obama, if you have even a shred of honesty in your body. Given that, why is Palin even in the ballpark as number 2 in line for the Presidency? Don't get me wrong, Sarah Palin has some achievements, and she has a right to be proud of them. But realistically, in any category that matters Obama is better than Sarah Palin.
FOREIGN nations visited:
In August 2005, Obama traveled to Russia, Ukraine, and Azerbaijan.The trip focused on strategies to control the world's supply of conventional weapons, biological weapons, and weapons of mass destruction as a first defense against potential terrorist attacks Following meetings with U.S. military in Kuwait and Iraq in January 2006, Obama visited Jordan, Israel, and the Palestinian territories. He left for his third official trip in August 2006, traveling to South Africa, Kenya, Djibouti, Ethiopia and Chad. In a nationally televised speech at the University of Nairobi, he spoke forcefully on the influence of ethnic rivalries and corruption in Kenya]
So let's see - discounting his campaign trips and meeting with World leaders of UK, Germany, Israel, Iraq, Afghanistan - he has been on official business talking war stuff with the Senate Foreign Relations committe to:
Israel
Kuwait
Iraq
Russia
Ukraine
South Africa
Kenya
Djibouti
Ethiopia
Chad
Jordan
Palestinian territories
Kuwait
Azerbaijan
And Palin once left the USA and visted 1 country.
Think Palin doesn't matter?
Mccain is 72 years old, and has had cancer 4 times.
Mccain smoked 2 packs a day for 25 years.
He has degenerative arthritis.
He's had cataract surgery.
Also, high cholesterol, high blood pressure, he's
Arthritic, has had Vertigo.
He's on 6 different medications including for
Kidneys, cholesterol, sleep, blood clots.
And he's about to enter the most stressful job on Earth?
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And if she'll abuse power like that, what will she do when she runs the country?
Two words: mandatory castration.
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Try posting something about bodybuilding. Otherwise go post on the DailyKos or one of the other 9 billion political/conspiracy/bestiality sites.
God, what a moron.
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Try posting something about bodybuilding. Otherwise go post on the DailyKos or one of the other 9 billion political/conspiracy/bestiality sites.
God, what a moron.
MELTDOWN!
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Try posting something about bodybuilding. Otherwise go post on the DailyKos or one of the other 9 billion political/conspiracy/bestiality sites.
God, what a moron.
is dailykos communist or what? :-X
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Palin's staff has released a statement that she will not cooperate with the investigation on the grounds that its been "tainted" with politics..... ::)
For any other American citizen this would be considered contempt of court.
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Of course she is. She is jockeying for Cheney's job. And true to Cheney form that includes refusing to cooperate with anything of the judicial process and justice.
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LOL... you just konw the next repub president will pick right up with the "we don't have to testify to anything because we have exec privledge".
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Really, let's compare Palin and Obama objectively, since the Republicans claim Palin is Obama's equal, or even that Palin is more qualified to possibly be President.
Undergraduate
Obama
-early undergrad at Occidental college, ranked 37th among liberal arts colleges by US News and World Report
-he did well enough to transfer to Columbia, the third most selective Ivy League college, Columbia being only slightly less selective than Harvard and Yale
Palin
-Went to the University of Idaho. While a decent school, it's considered a third tier school by the US News rankings.
Graduate
Obama
Harvard Law School.
-editor of law review in first year based on grades and writing ability. For those of you who are unaware, this essentially marks him as among the smartest and most able in a group full of very smart and able people.
-President of Law review in his second year. First black president of Harvard Law Review. Again, a very prestigious position, and marks him as both a leader, and as someone of exceptional ability.
-Graduated Magna Cum Laude (highest academic honors), again a significant achievement among a group of significant achievers.
Palin
N/A
Objectively then, Obama is either significantly smarter, harder working or both than Palin. His undergraduate education is objectively and provably better. His grad work proves that he was leaps and bounds beyond Palin in terms of intellectual and leadership ability. You don't get to be President of Harvard Law Review by being average, or a shrinking violet.
Advantage: Obama
240, Obama is 100 times smarter-no doubt, but there are a few thinsg you need to know.
First, no one is on Harvard Law Review their first year of law school. No one. LR is open to second and third year students based on grades and writing samples.
Second, as for graduating "with honors" from Harvard. ......... 91% of Harvard LS graduates with "honors". So you could be in the BOTTOM 10% of Harvard law and still graduate with honors.
Havard, Stanfard and a few other schools are notorious for grade inflation.
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wow that's pretty SICK, so what does Cheney do when he gets served ::)
Republicans served over 140 cabinet memebers under the Clinton administration, and the dems can't even sub one under the bush regime.
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Alaska AG: State employees won't honor subpoenas
http://news.yahoo.com/story//ap/palin_troopergate
Wait, I thought they were going to change washington, so far this says Palin just adopted Dick Cheney and the neoconservative view of the power of the executive. Way to change things Palin, it only took a few weeks for your pod to hatch ;D
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And you know this how?
240, Obama is 100 times smarter-no doubt, but there are a few thinsg you need to know.
First, no one is on Harvard Law Review their first year of law school. No one. LR is open to second and third year students based on grades and writing samples.
Second, as for graduating "with honors" from Harvard. ......... 91% of Harvard LS graduates with "honors". So you could be in the BOTTOM 10% of Harvard law and still graduate with honors.
Havard, Stanfard and a few other schools are notorious for grade inflation.
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Sarah Palin says she welcomes Troopergate ethics probe into her firing of Walt Monegan
I'm no expert in body language,
...but I do know enough to know a body language expert would have an absolute field day with this.
People cannot lie unconsciously, ...they can bold faced lie consciously, ...but they always give themselves away. It's the little things they do that always tattle on them. Notice how she shakes her head at 53 secs. She's saying it's cool with her, but she's actually shaking her head no. Then the shaking stops and she starts nodding at the point where she says she doesn't have anything to hide. What a little pinocchio face she is!
I just love how she says it's a governor's prerogative to fill the cabinet with the "members" who s/he believes will do best "for the people whom we are serving". Notice how she didn't say for the people of Alaska, ...but rather "For the people whom we are serving" Guess what folks, those people she is serving are not everyday Americans. They are shadows who believe in partisan patronage and secrecy all across the board.
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She is a smart woman...it's never wise to help the enemy within.
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She is a smart woman...it's never wise to help the enemy within.
The enemy within ::) The investigation was ordered unanimously 12 to 0 by a bipartisan group. The subpoenas were send by a group of 3 republicans and 2 democrats. The whole thing was started before she was announced as VP. What exactly are you trying to say here? You really need to stop relying so heavily on info from idiots like Hannity and Rush. What exactly are you saying, you support any member of the executive not cooperating with any investigation? But my guess is you would expect a dem to cooperate right?
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The enemy within ::) The investigation was ordered unanimously 12 to 0 by a bipartisan group. The subpoenas were send by a group of 3 republicans and 2 democrats. The whole thing was started before she was announced as VP. What exactly are you trying to say here? You really need to stop relying so heavily on info from idiots like Hannity and Rush. What exactly are you saying, you support any member of the executive not cooperating with any investigation? But my guess is you would expect a dem to cooperate right?
I respect her right to not cooperate with haters. I believe in the constitution and the law that gives her this right. The Alaskan Attoney General agree with me too. I rarely ever listen to Rush or Hannity.
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I respect her right to not cooperate with haters. I believe in the constitution and the law that gives her this right. The Alaskan Attoney General agree with me too. I rarely ever listen to Rush or Hannity.
So just call it hating and leave it at that, don't cooperate... Sounds like a pretty fucked up president to set don't you think. Look, you cannot deny this was set into motion by both dems and republican and started before she got McCain's VP slot. What you're setting up here is a near impervious branch of government on both state and federal level immune from any real checks. Do you really think that's smart?
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So just call it hating and leave it at that, don't cooperate... Sounds like a pretty fucked up president to set don't you think. Look, you cannot deny this was set into motion by both dems and republican and started before she got McCain's VP slot. What you're setting up here is a near impervious branch of government on both state and federal level immune from any real checks. Do you really think that's smart?
Not sure Clinton was too cooperative when he was President. How about Hillary when she was being investigated. Too often we force politicians to PROVE their innocence and the more honest information you give the more out of context it becomes to the detractors.
Again, the Attorney General of Alaska will not grant a subpoena in this case. Case is over!
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Not sure Clinton was too cooperative when he was President. How about Hillary when she was being investigated. Too often we force politicians to PROVE their innocence and the more honest information you give the more out of context it becomes to the detractors.
Again, the Attorney General of Alaska will not grant a subpoena in this case. Case is over!
Why don't you ask youandme, he kept tabs on how many times people were sucessfully served under Clinton and under Bush. So far bush 0...
Alaska AG: Troopergate witnesses won't testify
By STEVE QUINN – 5 hours ago
JUNEAU, Alaska (AP) — Alaska's attorney general says state employees subpoenaed in the investigation of Gov. Sarah Palin will not testify.
In a letter to the Democratic state senator overseeing the investigation, Attorney General Talis Colberg asks that the subpoenas be withdrawn. He also says the employees will not appear before the investigator unless either the full state Senate or the entire Alaska Legislature votes to compel their testimony.
Last week, a committee of lawmakers issued subpoenas for 13 people, including Todd Palin, the governor's husband, in the investigation of whether the governor fired her public safety chief for refusing to dismiss her former brother-in-law, an Alaska State Trooper.
All those summoned are state employees, except Todd Palin.
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Palin's husband Todd has now refused to testify.
Even though he has been supoeaned.
He doesn't respect the law. He was ordered by the court to appear, and is refusing.