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"KSA" posted this and it almost disappeared onto the 2nd page
a must see !
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=9GAWZEH4
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funny bit when dugdales doin the low rows and dorian is telling him to pause slightly b4 the negative....
hes just not gettin it....
dorian grabs the bar and pulls it right in and holds it ....
perfect form from the master
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Why is there a Team Nasser but no Team Dorian?
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dudgal is pretty good looking guy, too bad he's so short
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Why is there a Team Nasser but no Team Dorian?
ND IS team Dorian ;)
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I just watched this video the other day and it's honestly more a Dorian video than a Dugdale one. All of Dorian's insights into training are the best I've ever heard from any bodybuilding video. The guy is a straight shooter and uses a no BS approach to training.
Guys like Milos and Charles Glass get so gimmicky that their training methods become complicated and just not as productive as good ole hardcore liftin' heavy ass weights ala Ronnie and Dorian.
I also thought it was interesting to see that Dorian is still pretty strong. Although Dugdale was obviously tired, when Dorian would step in and show Mark proper form he'd handle Mark's working weight like it was a warm up.
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funny bit when dugdales doin the low rows and dorian is telling him to pause slightly b4 the negative....
hes just not gettin it....
dorian grabs the bar and pulls it right in and holds it ....
perfect form from the master
That was HILARIOUS. If I recall correctly that was the working weight or close to the working weight for dugdale and he was struggling with it, then dorian steps in and just HOLDS it in the contracted position like it's nothing.
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Awesome!
Team Dorian Yates approved.
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dudgal is pretty good looking guy, too bad he's so short
Fag.
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Best part of the video is when Dugdale says he normally does rows with 4 plates and Dorian just starts laughing LOL. He says we'll start with 2 plates and work from there. It's really not hard to believe that if Dorian used the form most pros use on rows he would have been doing 585lbs.
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mark juices for jesus
true story
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Best part of the video is when Dugdale says he normally does rows with 4 plates and Dorian just starts laughing LOL. He says we'll start with 2 plates and work from there. It's really not hard to believe that if Dorian used the form most pros use on rows he would have been doing 585lbs.
and if Dorian used the old 70's and 80's form like guys like Haney, Arnold, Bertil Fox, etc. used standing on plates or a bench and lowering the weight for a full stretch he'd have used 275.
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Guys like Milos and Charles Glass get so gimmicky that their training methods become complicated and just not as productive as good ole hardcore liftin' heavy ass weights ala Ronnie and Dorian.
When you have been personal-training for as long as Charles and Milos, you tend to get "gimmicky"...
I would not dare to say that their methods are 'not as productive'
Personal training gets boring--I don't give a shit who your clients are.
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Watching it now, i might actually go pay dorian to train with him.... he is straight up.
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"KSA" posted this and it almost disappeared onto the 2nd page
a must see !
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=9GAWZEH4
That's true ;)
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Any direct HTTP download link? This "megavideo" site is shit.
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thank you!!!!
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Im not a low volume kind of guy but Dorian is a really good trainer. Liked the video.
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considering how many muscles yates tore, hes the last person id take training advice from
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Video is really good. Thanx for that.
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that was a lot better than i thought it would be. i loved how Dorian was calling out Mark on every freakin' detail. he didn't let him get away with jackshit.
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That was HILARIOUS. If I recall correctly that was the working weight or close to the working weight for dugdale and he was struggling with it, then dorian steps in and just HOLDS it in the contracted position like it's nothing.
hahhaa yep
pulls it right in..... BOOM! ...... and stares at him... hahhaha
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considering how many muscles yates tore, hes the last person id take training advice from
Actually Dorian's advice is perfect. He did say that one of the things he would probably change is the intensity he used in precontest when on reduced calories. That's when all his injuries came. When he was depleted and doing forced reps, half reps, rest-pause, etc.
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and if Dorian used the old 70's and 80's form like guys like Haney, Arnold, Bertil Fox, etc. used standing on plates or a bench and lowering the weight for a full stretch he'd have used 275.
Please. Yates rowed 200lb DB's off the bench with perfect form. The guy had some of the strongest lats in the history of BB.
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Please. Yates rowed 200lb DB's off the bench with perfect form. The guy had some of the strongest lats in the history of BB.
anyone can do heavy db rows, do you know how many skinny geeks i've seen using 150 pound plus db's for rows? one of the easiest movements in all of lifting.
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anyone can do heavy db rows, do you know how many skinny geeks i've seen using 150 pound plus db's for rows? one of the easiest movements in all of lifting.
yep.... this is what dorian talks about in the vid..... i take it u didnt see it....
dorian is one of the strongest bodybuilders.... with perfect form
his form for dumbell rows has a peak contraction at the top and smooth motion ...
he explains that if u cant get a smooth motion and pause at the contraction then the weight is too heavy and ur using momentum to get the weight up its not 100% muscle
these are very simple basic training methods that people start to ignore for some reason
i dont imagine many guys trainin lats can actually get a peak contraction in the lats and feel the muscle tretch out again
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dorian is one of the strongest bodybuilders.... with perfect form
dorians 1 rep max = ronnie's warmup weight. watch the unbelievable if you dont believe me
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dorians 1 rep max = ronnie's warmup weight. watch the unbelievable if you dont believe me
hahhaha are u even reading this thread...
what im sayin is dorian is pretty strong...with perfect form
its all about the form if everyone used perfect form they would have to drop a lot of weight....
not dorian though... his form is always perfect and he still lifts among the heaviest
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yep.... this is what dorian talks about in the vid..... i take it u didnt see it....
dorian is one of the strongest bodybuilders.... with perfect form
his form for dumbell rows has a peak contraction at the top and smooth motion ...
he explains that if u cant get a smooth motion and pause at the contraction then the weight is too heavy and ur using momentum to get the weight up its not 100% muscle
these are very simple basic training methods that people start to ignore for some reason
i dont imagine many guys trainin lats can actually get a peak contraction in the lats and feel the muscle tretch out again
he sure as shit didn't pause the weight in Blood and Guts. ::)
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yep.... this is what dorian talks about in the vid..... i take it u didnt see it....
dorian is one of the strongest bodybuilders.... with perfect form
his form for dumbell rows has a peak contraction at the top and smooth motion ...
he explains that if u cant get a smooth motion and pause at the contraction then the weight is too heavy and ur using momentum to get the weight up its not 100% muscle
these are very simple basic training methods that people start to ignore for some reason
i dont imagine many guys trainin lats can actually get a peak contraction in the lats and feel the muscle tretch out again
Exactly. I'd LOVE to see a "skinny geek" do a 150lb db row with perfect form and hold the contraction at the peak. LOL. The bullshit is deep around here as usual.
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dorians 1 rep max = ronnie's warmup weight. watch the unbelievable if you dont believe me
ronnie was strong, but he had some of the worst form i've seen by a professional.
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Exactly. I'd LOVE to see a "skinny geek" do a 150lb db row with perfect form and hold the contraction at the peak. LOL. The bullshit is deep around here as usual.
Dorian never held the contraction on anything except that stupid clip of him training Dugdale, he sure didn't do it on Blood and Guts with his goofy standing upright shrug/row/deadlift combination he called a barbell row. ::)
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Dorian never held the contraction on anything except that stupid clip of him training Dugdale, he sure didn't do it on Blood and Guts with his goofy standing upright shrug/row/deadlift combination he called a barbell row. ::)
He NEVER said you had to hold the weight at the top of each rep. He said if you can't hold the weight at the top, you're using too much weight. Get it right.
Check this video about 2:30 in. Textbook perfect barbell row form:
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Waiting for a reply Dave...
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Mark: "I like these dumbells, but they're a little bit loose"
Dorian: "Yeah, I like em' that way"
Mark: "They're not gonna come loose or anything?"
Dorian: "No... at least I hope not-- then you'd have to sue me, you know how you Americans are, sueing over anything"
Classic!
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Exactly. I'd LOVE to see a "skinny geek" do a 150lb db row with perfect form and hold the contraction at the peak. LOL. The bullshit is deep around here as usual.
I'd like to see a "skinny geek" row 150's period ::). Dorian did pause all of his hammer strength pulldown reps and semi-paused his incline presses too. Only knock on him would be that he did'nt bend much on bent rows but it oviously worked for him and the actual motion was strict as can be(no bouncing) and perhaps his dumbell/barbell curls were'nt 100% textbook like all his other lifts.
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Why is there a Team Nasser but no Team Dorian?
Because Nassoil has a huge gay following on here.. Only real bodybuilding fans like Dorian.
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Mark: "I like these dumbells, but they're a little bit loose"
Dorian: "Yeah, I like em' that way"
Mark: "They're not gonna come loose or anything?"
Dorian: "No... at least I hope not-- then you'd have to sue me, you know how you Americans are, sueing over anything"
Classic!
AHahaa, Dorian speaking the truth as always.
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Finished watching. Dorian is the man, period.
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TEAM YATES APPROVED!!
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somehow I look at this vid and all these years the word was Dorian did a few light warmups and then BANG one HD, balls to the wall set......but look at him training Dugdale.....even on the very first set he says 15 reps but they're full on....Dugdale is struggling.....he's hits failure nearly.....exhausated... ..take leg press....on the 2nd set (which according to Heavy Duty training, should still be a relative warm-up), well Dugdale absolutely struggles at about the 5-6th rep.....yes, this is low-rang, heavy, hardcode training....but its multiple sets type training....
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dorians 1 rep max = ronnie's warmup weight. watch the unbelievable if you dont believe me
::)
(http://www.wickedsunshine.com/WagePeace/Election2004/Images/AwJeez,NotThisShitAgain!.jpg)
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ND IS team Dorian ;)
fixed :D
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He NEVER said you had to hold the weight at the top of each rep. He said if you can't hold the weight at the top, you're using too much weight. Get it right.
Check this video about 2:30 in. Textbook perfect barbell row form:
his form is pretty good on those but he's still rocking back and forth a little bit and not really lowering for a full stretch but he is using 315 so i'll give him a break.
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I remember when "Blood N Guts" first came out (VHS there were no DVD'S back then)
Me and all my buddies all did the "standing up-underhand grip barbell row" and we all started "yelling" at each other like Leroy did to Yates lol
even tried Dorians verison of Mentzers "Heavy -Duty" (hated it/not enough volume for me)
saw Dorian guest pose/seminars a few times
he was the man back then!
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Good video.
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""business as usual!!!!!!!!!!!!!""
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Very good stuff. Nice to see some of the back stuff I did today being reinforced by Dorian in that vid. -ie. I love that Hammer pulldown machine and it is all about pulling your hands back as far as possible for contraction.
/i won't even talk about the two clowns i saw one-arm rowing the 120's for 2-3". oh, and letting the dumbbells go 'boom' on the floor when they drop them
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Ronnie is/was strong, but his form sucked because of the poundages he used.
Dorian is very strong and his forum is PERFECT.
What I thought was coincidental is the fact his form was so perfect, yet he had so many muscle tears.
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his form is pretty good on those but he's still rocking back and forth a little bit and not really lowering for a full stretch but he is using 315 so i'll give him a break.
Rocking back and forth? Please. That's as still as you can support your body while holding 315lbs. I'd like to see what you consider Ronnie's bent row form.
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Ronnie is/was strong, but his form sucked because of the poundages he used.
Dorian is very strong and his forum is PERFECT.
What I thought was coincidental is the fact his form was so perfect, yet he had so many muscle tears.
You post a lot there huh? ::)