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Oh it just keeps getting better, 10% drop in 3 days is a huge drop. I wonder why its starting to go down ;)
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Oh it just keeps getting better, 10% drop in 3 days is a huge drop. I wonder why its starting to go down ;)
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No people r starting to get to know who the real Sarah Palin is, and they've come to realize that she's not all that, and more hype and no substance, oh and she lies alot :D.
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more hype and no substance, oh and she lies alot :D.
She can't stop lying. From the "teleprompter malfunction," to the "bridge to nowhere." Lying wench.
Palin's Favorability Ratings Begin to Falter
Andrew Romano
To know her, it seems, is not necessarily to love her.
When John McCain picked Sarah Palin as his running mate late last month, the Alaska governor quickly became a media phenomenon. Largely unknown, she existed at first in something of an information vacuum, and due to the shock of her selection--everyone loves a surprise--the press rushed to fill the void with whatever data was easily available. Mostly this consisted of human interest material; Palin had plenty to go around. Mooseburgers. Float planes. Ice Fishing. Beauty pageants. Teen pregnancy. Et cetera. By the end of her first 15 minutes in the spotlight--which included her speech at the Republican National Convention in St. Paul--Palin existed mostly as an idea: a frontier supermom who'd triumphed over adversity (the Ol' Boys Club, the "liberal media"). Palin spent her first week reading from a teleprompter and avoiding questions from the press--and the public--so as not to sully this first impression.
The polls reflected the early success of her strategy. In the three days after Palin joined Team McCain--Aug. 29-31--32 percent of voters told the pollsters at Diageo/Hotline that they had a favorable opinion of her; most (48 percent) didn't know enough to say. By Sept. 4, however, 43 percent of Diageo/Hotline respondents approved of Palin with only 25 percent disapproving--an 18-point split. Apparently, voters were liking what they were hearing. Four days later, Palin's approval rating had climbed to 47 percent (+17), and by Sept. 13 it had hit 52 percent. The gap at that point between her favorable and unfavorable numbers--22 percent--was larger than either McCain's (+20) or Obama's (+13).
But then a funny thing happened: Palin lost some of her luster. Since Sept. 13, Palin's unfavorables have climbed from 30 percent to 36 percent. Meanwhile, her favorables have slipped from 52 percent to 48 percent. That's a three-day net swing of -10 points, and it leaves her in the Sept. 15 Diageo/Hotline tracking poll tied for the smallest favorability split (+12) of any of the Final Four. Over the course of a single weekend, in other words, Palin went from being the most popular White House hopeful to the least.
What happened? I'd argue that Palin's considerable novelty is starting to wear off. In part it's the result of a steady stream of unhelpful stories: her unfamiliarity with the Bush Doctrine during last Thursday's interview with Charles Gibson (video above); her refusal to cooperate with the Troopergate investigation; her repeated stretching of the truth on everything from earmarks to the Bridge to Nowhere to the amount of energy her state produces. That stuff has a way of inspiring disapproval and eroding one's support. (Interestingly, Palin's preparedness numbers--about 50 percent yes, 45 percent no--haven't budged.) But mostly it's the start of an inevitable process. Between now and Nov. 4, voters will stop seeing Palin as a fascinating story and starting taking her measure as an actual candidate for office. Some will approve; some won't. It remains to be seen whether Palin's recent slide will continue, or hurt John McCain in the polls. But it's hard to argue that the journey from intriguing new superstar to earthbound politician--a necessary part of the process--doesn't involve a loss of altitude.
Just ask Barack Obama.
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plus, the excitement of her being picked has worn off and the reality of her poor qualifications to be VP are more evident.
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i can't keep saying this enough. Rudy. Fred Thompson. Looking back to Wes Clark in 2004.
These folks come on and look PERFECT. But every time they open their mouth, and the more people learn about their positions, the more people they'll lose. Every time Palin takes a position on an issue, she alienates some voters. Every time she belittles the positions of 'community organizer' in a disrespectful fashion, she loses some votes from people. Every time that youtube ad with wolves being shot from planes and her govt paying $150 for the servered paw is played, she loses some support.
Every day we learn more about her, she'll have less and less support.
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No people r starting to get to know who the real Sarah Palin is, and they've come to realize that she's not all that, and more hype and no substance, oh and she lies alot :D.
Haha, she is similar to Barak. But the republicans are winning if you idiots are running against Sarah Palin.
Democrats are falling for the trap!
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Haha, she is similar to Barak. But the republicans are winning if you idiots are running against Sarah Palin.
Democrats are falling for the trap!
"trap" ::)
She's the only hope of grandpa getting elected. Once he's no longer able to hide behind her skirt, he's finished.
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Haha, she is similar to Barak. But the republicans are winning if you idiots are running against Sarah Palin.
Democrats are falling for the trap!
This is where we disagree... The republicans used her as a political boost... McCain was looking terrible, picking her made him look better.
By her getting reduced, it also reduces him... If anything over the past 2 weeks has shown me, is that McCain by himself wasn't capable of winning, so he got her... Then it looks like he can.
As her ratings go down... so does his.
If you look at it like that, it's Barak vs. both of them... and now he's gaining on both of them together.
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CNN showed a lot of people LEAVING the auditorium after palin spoke, DURING mccain's speech.
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This is where we disagree... The republicans used her as a political boost... McCain was looking terrible, picking her made him look better.
By her getting reduced, it also reduces him... If anything over the past 2 weeks has shown me, is that McCain by himself wasn't capable of winning, so he got her... Then it looks like he can.
As her ratings go down... so does his.
If you look at it like that, it's Barak vs. both of them... and now he's gaining on both of them together.
As I have said in the past "polls mean little to nothing". Gallup called me tonight (8:36 PM) and I told them I was voting for Obama. True Story.
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As I have said in the past "polls mean little to nothing". Gallup called me tonight (8:36 PM) and I told them I was voting for Obama. True Story.
Agreed, but...
They show that Palin has lost approval of 100 of the 1000 people asked this week.
If she loses 10% each week for the next month, it can be bad for mccain.
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Agreed, but...
They show that Palin has lost approval of 100 of the 1000 people asked this week.
If she loses 10% each week for the next month, it can be bad for mccain.
If you believe the polls, yes.
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If you believe the polls, yes.
You ever notice how people like to believe polls when they go their way, but never when they don't?
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You ever notice how people like to believe polls when they go their way, but never when they don't?
Yes. It is like people feel better about their position if they are in the majority, as if somehow being in the majority justifies their positioning. Pretty insecure of them when you think about it.
Ever heard of the Bradley effect?
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Yes. It is like people feel better about their position if they are in the majority, as if somehow being in the majority justifies their positioning. Pretty insecure of them when you think about it.
Ever heard of the Bradley effect?
I have... I'm from Virginia where it's known as "The Wilder Effect".
I do know what you're talking about though.
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Oh it just keeps getting better, 10% drop in 3 days is a huge drop. I wonder why its starting to go down ;)
So now it's down to 70%? What's the favorable rating for Obama, McCain, and Biden?
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It was bound to fall back.......McCain cut down a ten point barrack lead in 3 days...now things are back to where they were before the Conventions except McCain has the one or two point lead and I'm sure it will stay that way until the debates.
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It was bound to fall back.......McCain cut down a ten point barrack lead in 3 days...now things are back to where they were before the Conventions except McCain has the one or two point lead and I'm sure it will stay that way until the debates.
Possible - but - NBC broke down the specifics - her ten point slide has been since SATURDAY. That's ten points in 3 days. Probably an outlier, but if it's anything near accurate, there's no way she drops ten points in 3 days then suddenly levels. A slide that far so fast would be followed by more tapering.
I predict she'll lose ten more favorability in 2 weeks.
Of course, whoever is BEHIND going into the elections has an advantage. We saw Obama's supporters get realy lazy when he was up by 5 points in a state. They tend to skip voting if they think it's already in the bag.
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Ur predictions are always right on. They didn't get lazy, they had no idea how to deal with her...SHE IS NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. Keep wasting ur time.
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Ur predictions are always right on. They didn't get lazy, they had no idea how to deal with her...SHE IS NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. Keep wasting ur time.
She's running for backup predicent. With mccain being 72, some voters feel a prepared veep is important.
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Yeah......Biden has been near silent, funny that. And Obama has done what exactly? I mean who has any leadership experience. Obama has led nothing, even when he President of the Law review, people say he was very non confrontational, dealing with things by building consensus, never leading. The guy is a wimp. Thats why the rest of the world is salivating over a possible Obama presidency. Do u think our "allies" in the Middle East want this guy. They know he'll run like a little bitch, leaving them to deal with Iran. Read Woodwards book, they fear and loath Iran 10 times worse then Israel.
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Yeah......Biden has been near silent, funny that. And Obama has done what exactly? I mean who has any leadership experience. Obama has led nothing, even when he President of the Law review, people say he was very non confrontational, dealing with things by building consensus, never leading. The guy is a wimp. Thats why the rest of the world is salivating over a possible Obama presidency. Do u think our "allies" in the Middle East want this guy. They know he'll run like a little bitch, leaving them to deal with Iran. Read Woodwards book, they fear and loath Iran 10 times worse then Israel.
Biden has spoken every day on the campaign trail. The media chooses to tlak about Obama and Palin mostly. MSNBC has had his daily speech on the air 2 times in the last 8 days or so, but they've had breaking news every time palin walks to her limo.
I don't know about obama being a 'wimp'.
He was more aggressive about shooting up paki territory than mccain was. Bush was with obama on this one though.
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I too have noticed a more assertive tone in Obama's speaking, particularly within the last couple days. I guess his campaign staff is driving home the fact that the Republicans are starting to slip up and need to be called out on it.
Was having a really assertive tone the way Obama intended to run his campaign? No, but it will probably be needed to cut through the Right Wing Bullshit that they are so good at pulling out come election time.