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To know her, it seems, is not necessarily to love her.
When John McCain picked Sarah Palin as his running mate late last month, the Alaska governor quickly became a media phenomenon. Largely unknown, she existed at first in something of an information vacuum, and due to the shock of her selection--everyone loves a surprise--the press rushed to fill the void with whatever data was easily available. Mostly this consisted of human interest material; Palin had plenty to go around. Mooseburgers. Float planes. Ice Fishing. Beauty pageants. Teen pregnancy. Et cetera. By the end of her first 15 minutes in the spotlight--which included her speech at the Republican National Convention in St. Paul--Palin existed mostly as an idea: a frontier supermom who'd triumphed over adversity (the Ol' Boys Club, the "liberal media"). Palin spent her first week reading from a teleprompter and avoiding questions from the press--and the public--so as not to sully this first impression.
The polls reflected the early success of her strategy. In the three days after Palin joined Team McCain--Aug. 29-31--32 percent of voters told the pollsters at Diageo/Hotline that they had a favorable opinion of her; most (48 percent) didn't know enough to say. By Sept. 4, however, 43 percent of Diageo/Hotline respondents approved of Palin with only 25 percent disapproving--an 18-point split. Apparently, voters were liking what they were hearing. Four days later, Palin's approval rating had climbed to 47 percent (+17), and by Sept. 13 it had hit 52 percent. The gap at that point between her favorable and unfavorable numbers--22 percent--was larger than either McCain's (+20) or Obama's (+13).
But then a funny thing happened: Palin lost some of her luster. Since Sept. 13, Palin's unfavorables have climbed from 30 percent to 36 percent. Meanwhile, her favorables have slipped from 52 percent to 48 percent. That's a three-day net swing of -10 points, and it leaves her in the Sept. 15 Diageo/Hotline tracking poll tied for the smallest favorability split (+12) of any of the Final Four. Over the course of a single weekend, in other words, Palin went from being the most popular White House hopeful to the least.
What happened? I'd argue that Palin's considerable novelty is starting to wear off. In part it's the result of a steady stream of unhelpful stories: her unfamiliarity with the Bush Doctrine during last Thursday's interview with Charles Gibson (video above); her refusal to cooperate with the Troopergate investigation; her repeated stretching of the truth on everything from earmarks to the Bridge to Nowhere to the amount of energy her state produces. That stuff has a way of inspiring disapproval and eroding one's support. (Interestingly, Palin's preparedness numbers--about 50 percent yes, 45 percent no--haven't budged.) But mostly it's the start of an inevitable process. Between now and Nov. 4, voters will stop seeing Palin as a fascinating story and starting taking her measure as an actual candidate for office. Some will approve; some won't. It remains to be seen whether Palin's recent slide will continue, or hurt John McCain in the polls. But it's hard to argue that the journey from intriguing new superstar to earthbound politician--a necessary part of the process--doesn't involve a loss of altitude.
Just ask Barack Obama.
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Wow, everyone in the media has it out for the republicans. I cant even turn my tv on and get unbiased news. It makes me f ucking sick to my stomach.
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Hey "Illegal" get this shit off this board. Take it to the Politics Board. Man, you would think you could understand english by now. You can't even vote so why do you care. It is because Obama plans on shorting the fence and it will be easier for you to jump over it.
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The truth hurts. She's lying about a lot of things, she's dodging the troopergate investigation by refusing to testify after she said she would.
The more people learn about her, the more they realize she's hot, but she's a religious nutbag who isn't experienced enough to run the most powerful nation on earth.
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Wow, everyone in the media has it out for the republicans. I cant even turn my tv on and get unbiased news. It makes me f ucking sick to my stomach.
Well, anything that has anything to do with republicans makes you suck in the stomach, so nothing's really new
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Hey "Illegal" get this shit off this board. Take it to the Politics Board. Man, you would think you could understand english by now. You can't even vote so why do you care. It is because Obama plans on shorting the fence and it will be easier for you to jump over it.
Say hi to the family, Jabba!
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It is because Obama plans on shorting the fence and it will be easier for you to jump over it.
Didn't mcCain co-sponsor that immigration/amnesty bill which would have legalized 12 million illegals?
Yes, yes he did. And he said once he's president, the bill will be restarted, and this time he'll override congressional disapproval ;)
hola!!
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240, Obama is a junior senator, with little to no political experience, whereas mccain is a decorated war veteran who has served his time in the senate. But your right, lets vote for a guy simply because he is black, thats smart.
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240, Obama is a junior senator, with little to no political experience, whereas mccain is a decorated war veteran who has served his time in the senate. But your right, lets vote for a guy simply because he is black, thats smart.
Who has suggested that, other than you? ::)
There are lot's of decorated war veterans serving in the senate. You better bring something other than that to the table.
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Who has suggested that, other than you? ::)
There are lot's of decorated war veterans serving in the senate. You better bring something other than that to the table.
his service is awesome.
Does it make him qualified to run the country?
he admitted in the primaries he's very weak on the economy. instead of choosing an uber-strong economy person like Romney or Fiorino, he selected someone who didn't have that skilset. Not only that but palin had the highest earmark-per-person in the country. She demanded more money from the govt than other states, and didn't have a lot of people. She blew a lot of money while in office, and was even on McCain's list of officials who waste money.
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Wow, do you think Obama knows about the economy? No, neither one do, they both rely on advisers for almost all the decisions they make, you above all people 240, should know this.
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Wow, do you think Obama knows about the economy? No, neither one do, they both rely on advisers for almost all the decisions they make, you above all people 240, should know this.
Obama has been calling for greater regulation in banking and lending industry. McCain fancies himself the "de-Regulator".
De-regulation is what caused this mess today. Regulations in lending help keep idiots from borrowing $300k to buy a house when they only make $25k a year. mccain supported the de-regulation as a way to prevent taxing (the rich).
There's a damn good reason these regulations exist. To prevent 20 million people from borrowing and defaulting. When they do, banks fail, as they have been in the last month.
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Honestly, if your one of the many people that got a mortgage you couldn't afford, I'm glad it failed. It's a lesson well learned. Our country already lives well beyond its means. Hopefully this will open many peoples eyes about their money.
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Honestly, if your one of the many people that got a mortgage you couldn't afford, I'm glad it failed. It's a lesson well learned. Our country already lives well beyond its means. Hopefully this will open many peoples eyes about their money.
There is one problem with "let them fail!"
When millions of them fail, banks fail.
When banks fail, the dollar weakens (loses value) significantly. If it weakens enough, other nations stop trading in it (accepting it) and the US goes bankrupt.
it happened to Russia in 95 and Mexico in 1998. People starve, there is chaos, and they start over.
So yes, it's a bad idea to let millions of people falter on their loans. Those banks keep our economy alive.
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Honestly, if your one of the many people that got a mortgage you couldn't afford, I'm glad it failed. It's a lesson well learned. Our country already lives well beyond its means. Hopefully this will open many peoples eyes about their money.
Although you are basically the village idiot of this board, I pretty much agree. If lending becomes more difficult and it is more difficult for people to get car loans and mortgages, I think that is a good thing. Americans are so materialistic that most live under a mountain of debt.
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Benny, you sir are a funny man. You call me an idiot and then agree with me.
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Benny, you sir are a funny man. You call me an idiot and then agree with me.
Even a broken watch is right twice a day. ;)
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The truth hurts. She's lying about a lot of things, she's dodging the troopergate investigation by refusing to testify after she said she would.
The more people learn about her, the more they realize she's hot, but she's a religious nutbag who isn't experienced enough to run the most powerful nation on earth.
BS...everything has been released (legal) and she's been exhonerated. The only people that are making shit up about it is the left. In case you haven't noticed, the media has backed off of Palin because they know they had nothing on her and created the propaganda. The left are TOTALLY afraid of her and McCain, if they were not, this smear campaign wouldn't have been half as bad as they made it. BTW, she made Charlie Gibson look like a total ASS which is another reason why they backed off of her this week!! She's owning the liberal media and now they really have no where to go.
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BS...everything has been released (legal) and she's been exhonerated. The only people that are making shit up about it is the left. In case you haven't noticed, the media has backed off of Palin because they know they had nothing on her and created the propaganda. The left are TOTALLY afraid of her and McCain, if they were not, this smear campaign wouldn't have been half as bad as they made it. BTW, she made Charlie Gibson look like a total ASS which is another reason why they backed off of her this week!! She's owning the liberal media and now they really have no where to go.
But then a funny thing happened: Palin lost some of her luster. Since Sept. 13, Palin's unfavorables have climbed from 30 percent to 36 percent. Meanwhile, her favorables have slipped from 52 percent to 48 percent. That's a three-day net swing of -10 points, and it leaves her in the Sept. 15 Diageo/Hotline tracking poll tied for the smallest favorability split (+12) of any of the Final Four. Over the course of a single weekend, in other words, Palin went from being the most popular White House hopeful to the least.
What happened? I'd argue that Palin's considerable novelty is starting to wear off. In part it's the result of a steady stream of unhelpful stories: her unfamiliarity with the Bush Doctrine during last Thursday's interview with Charles Gibson (video above); her refusal to cooperate with the Troopergate investigation; her repeated stretching of the truth on everything from earmarks to the Bridge to Nowhere to the amount of energy her state produces.
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But then a funny thing happened: Palin lost some of her luster. Since Sept. 13, Palin's unfavorables have climbed from 30 percent to 36 percent. Meanwhile, her favorables have slipped from 52 percent to 48 percent. That's a three-day net swing of -10 points, and it leaves her in the Sept. 15 Diageo/Hotline tracking poll tied for the smallest favorability split (+12) of any of the Final Four. Over the course of a single weekend, in other words, Palin went from being the most popular White House hopeful to the least.
What happened? I'd argue that Palin's considerable novelty is starting to wear off. In part it's the result of a steady stream of unhelpful stories: her unfamiliarity with the Bush Doctrine during last Thursday's interview with Charles Gibson (video above); her refusal to cooperate with the Troopergate investigation; her repeated stretching of the truth on everything from earmarks to the Bridge to Nowhere to the amount of energy her state produces.
Liberal source Benny? I notice you didn't list one.
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Palin said nearly 20% of the US' energy comes form Alaska.
Our own dept of energy says Alaska only delivers 3.5% of US energy.
Joe?
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Liberal source Benny? I notice you didn't list one.
Is Newsweek "liberal?" ::) I know they fact check and their polling and accuracy has never been in question.
Just for you "Coach", since you don't believe your lying eyes:
http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/09/16/palin-s-favorability-ratings-begin-to-falter.aspx
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Palin and Mccsame have become the new Laughing Stock.
I stole a Mccain/Palin sign yesterday and decided to re-work it a bit.
I have it sitting out front in the yard.
:)
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haha. all the more intelligent people on this board are pretty much unanimous about who not to vote for :)
about the others, like i said McCain could have selected a chimpanzee as a running mate and all the stubborn republican fanboys like Coach would jump in line and defend the chimp's credentials haha.
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Thank God I live in Canada !!
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Thank God I live in Canada !!
Canada has a god?
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If McCain loses it won't be because of Palin. It'll be because the public does not believe McCain will be able to handle & govern our economy and financial institutions.
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Is Newsweek "liberal?" ::) I know they fact check and their polling and accuracy has never been in question.
Just for you "Coach", since you don't believe your lying eyes:
http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/09/16/palin-s-favorability-ratings-begin-to-falter.aspx
Yes, Newsweek is VERY liberal. The I think 12 staff writers, 10 are liberal/Dems and 2 are Republican. Guess which ones get put to the back of the bus?
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Yes, Newsweek is VERY liberal. The I think 12 staff writers, 10 are liberal/Dems and 2 are Republican. Guess which ones get put to the back of the bus?
The fcking moronic ones like you?
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BS...everything has been released (legal) and she's been exhonerated. The only people that are making shit up about it is the left. In case you haven't noticed, the media has backed off of Palin because they know they had nothing on her and created the propaganda. The left are TOTALLY afraid of her and McCain, if they were not, this smear campaign wouldn't have been half as bad as they made it. BTW, she made Charlie Gibson look like a total ASS which is another reason why they backed off of her this week!! She's owning the liberal media and now they really have no where to go.
The troopergate investigation was started before she was named VP... Why cant 1 fucking republican ever speak FACTUAL TRUTH!!!!!!
She has not been... her husband just got supnead and 14/14 of a bipartasan oversite committee voted to investiage her (8 rep 6 dems) now the state investigation committee about this 5 members (state senators 3 rep 2 dems) and the FINAL VOTE was from a republican senator from her HOME TOWN..
She made him look like an ass becasue she didnt know what the bush doct was?? LOL... He made her say she can see russia from Alaska too right?
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Palin said nearly 20% of the US' energy comes form Alaska.
Our own dept of energy says Alaska only delivers 3.5% of US energy.
Joe?
but 240...i thought she was an "expert" on us energy???? ::)
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The troopergate investigation was started before she was named VP... Why cant 1 fucking republican ever speak FACTUAL TRUTH!!!!!!
She has not been... her husband just got supnead and 14/14 senate members voted to investiage her(8 rep 6 dems) now the state investigation committee about this 5 members 3 rep 2 dems and the FINAL VOTE was from a republican senator from her HOME TOWN..
She made him look like an ass becasue she didnt know what the bush doct was?? LOL... He made her say she can see russia from Alaska too right?
Learn too keep up Junior, like most of the liberal press, you're wrong......again.
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but 240...i thought she was an "expert" on us energy???? ::)
She claimed Alaska supplies 20% of all Americas Energy... Which is false!!!! In actuality they supply about 2.5% (factcheck.org) They may have Oil in her state, but Nuclear, Coal, Wind, Solar, Water and other forms i suppose all come from Alaska too? LOL
RIGHT COACH????
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Learn too keep up Junior, like most of the liberal press, you're wrong......again.
Joe...serious question:
How does it feel? you are definitely a man set in your ways, politically, religiously, emotionally....
How does it feel to be so...robotic? to lack inner struggle?
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but 240...i thought she was an "expert" on us energy???? ::)
When asked about her lack of foreign policy credentials, her answer to Charlie Gibson was something like "I believe that my energy experience helps with..."
I worked for almost 2 years at a college career center. I've practice-interviewed hundreds of kids preparing for REAL job interviews.
Anytime you ask a question about topic A, and they respond with "I believe my "experience" with Topic B will help...", it's a direct signal they don't know shit about topic A.
The Putins of this world aren't stupid. Her experience in unsuccessfully pimping an oil pipeline doesn't make her prepared for an oil crisis, financial meltdown, housing market, etc.
As much as I hated the guy, I sure do miss Mitt Romney right now. He's strong with the economy, and she's not.
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Learn too keep up Junior, like most of the liberal press, you're wrong......again.
Il give you a chance to look it up.... then come back and post the FACTS....
if you dont... Il OWN you once again...
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hey Coach Keith Olberman asked if you would give him a job since he got fired... LOL tune in at 8pm tomorrow to see how show he was fired from... :)
Also you saaid Chris Matthews got fired, tune in tomorrow for Hardball. :)
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hey Coach Keith Olberman asked if you would give him a job since he got fired... LOL tune in at 8pm tomorrow to see how show he was fired from... :)
Also you saaid Chris Matthews got fired, tune in tomorrow for Hardball. :)
more lib lies. I checked my DirecTV and they're a lib lie factory too.
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Il give you a chance to look it up.... then come back and post the FACTS....
if you dont... Il OWN you once again...
he wont....he simply doesnt respond to posts that are fact based, proving him wrong, or asking for honest answers.....
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hey Coach Keith Olberman asked if you would give him a job since he got fired... LOL tune in at 8pm tomorrow to see how show he was fired from... :)
Also you saaid Chris Matthews got fired, tune in tomorrow for Hardball. :)
By Howard Kurtz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, September 8, 2008; C01
MSNBC is removing Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews as the anchors of live political events, bowing to growing criticism that they are too opinionated to be seen as neutral in the heat of the presidential campaign.
David Gregory, the NBC newsman and White House correspondent who also hosts a program on MSNBC, will take over during such events as this fall's presidential and vice presidential debates and election night.
The move, confirmed by spokesmen for both networks, follows increasingly loud complaints about Olbermann's anchor role at the Democratic and Republican conventions. Olbermann, who regularly assails President Bush and GOP nominee John McCain on his "Countdown" program, was effusive in praising the acceptance speech of Democratic nominee Barack Obama. He drew flak Thursday when the Republicans played a video that included a tribute to the victims of the Sept. 11 attacks, saying that if the networks had done that, "we would be rightly eviscerated at all quarters, perhaps by the Republican Party itself, for exploiting the memories of the dead, and perhaps even for trying to evoke that pain again. If you reacted to that videotape the way I did, I apologize."
Matthews, who has criticized politicians in both parties, drew less criticism for his convention role but became a divisive figure during the primaries when he described how he was inspired by Obama's speeches and made disparaging remarks about Hillary Clinton, for which he later apologized.
In May, MSNBC President Phil Griffin said in an interview that during live events Olbermann and Matthews "put on different hats. I think the audience gets it. . . . I see zero problem."
But NBC News journalists, who often appear on the cable channel, did see a problem, arguing behind the scenes that MSNBC's move to the left -- which includes a new show, debuting tonight, for Air America radio host Rachel Maddow -- was tarnishing their reputation for fairness. Tom Brokaw, the interim host of "Meet the Press," said that at times Olbermann and Matthews went too far.
Olbermann and Matthews will remain as analysts during major political events, and officials at both networks, who declined to be identified discussing personnel moves, said Olbermann had initiated the discussions to clarify his role. They said Olbermann's influence at MSNBC would in no way be diminished and that the shift would enable him and Matthews to offer more candid analysis during live coverage. Olbermann confirmed yesterday he had initiated the discussions.
"Phil and I have debated this set-up since late winter/early spring (with me saying, 'Are you sure this flies?' and him saying, 'Yes, but let's judge it event by event') and I think we both reached the same point during the RNC," Olbermann said by e-mail.
Olbermann was involved in several on-air incidents during the conventions that drew unwanted attention. He told morning host Joe Scarborough, a former Republican congressman, to "get a shovel" as Scarborough was defending the McCain campaign. And when GOP strategist Mike Murphy was debating Matthews, Olbermann could be heard saying, "Let's wrap him up."
These and other clashes fueled a sense that conservative voices are less than welcome at MSNBC as it has tried to position itself as a left-wing alternative to Fox News Channel. Olbermann disputes this view, calling the incidents "overblown." Still, the network canceled Tucker Carlson's show in March and has diminished his role. And Dan Abrams, the veteran NBC legal analyst and former MSNBC general manager, had his program dropped last month to make room for Maddow, an Olbermann protege.
MSNBC's more liberal outlook has boosted its ratings, though it remains the third-place cable news channel. But both parties began castigating its coverage last spring. Steve Schmidt, McCain's top strategist, called the network "an organ of the Democratic National Committee," and Clinton campaign chairman Terry McAuliffe said Matthews was "in the tank" for Obama.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/08/AR2008090800008_pf.html
Find me something that says they have been REHIRED
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Did you pull those numbers out of your ass along with the anal beads?
Yes, Newsweek is VERY liberal. The I think 12 staff writers, 10 are liberal/Dems and 2 are Republican. Guess which ones get put to the back of the bus?
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Did you pull those numbers out of your ass along with the anal beads?
Great, another lib gimmick..........way to go Ron!
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Wah, Wah, Ron! He caught me in a lie that I can't back up....Wah!!!
Great, another lib gimmick..........way to go Ron!
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22425001/vp/26747306#26747306
Guess his show is yanked right??? LOL
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Whats so funny to me. Every time you don''t agree with a Republican you are called names "you lib, you liberal, you left winger, you are far left, you dem, etc.. Funny thing, i liked McCain before this election. Im not a "liberal or a Conservative" I'm BOTH liberal AND Conservative it depends on WHAT ISSUE. If you are ALWAYS liberal or ALWAYS Conservative you are a dumb fuck that doesn't listen to issues. Your mother should be slapped for not swallowing you. McCain kept saying he wanted a nice campaign, no mud slinging, "America wants clean campaigning" he went around all over the country saying that. When you ask him why his campaign has launched one of the worst in history he says "Obama wouldn't agree to town hall meetings" So because he didn't agree to "McCain's way" (awwww how sad) that means sling countless lies that get disproved on the DAILY as BOLD FACE LIES!!!
Also, the fact he met Palin once 2 years ago, and a 15 min conversation and he decided she was qualified, shows ALL AMERICANS he didn't pic her for the best of the country he picked her so he could get elected no matter how much dirt she has. THIS is going to be the reason he loses, not because she has dirt and is a nitwit, but, because he made poor judgment in choosing his VP.
No wonder the Christians didn't like him, he cheated on his ugly wife with a Rich woman, and then married her a month later, NICE CHRISTIAN, but he questions "Obama's faith" blahhhhhhh
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I worshipped mccain in the 2000 election.
Now, he's just a Bush clone.
And even karl Rove said he needs to stop lying in his ads. When Karl Rove calls you dishonest, it's time to re-evaluate things.
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240, Obama is a junior senator, with little to no political experience, whereas mccain is a decorated war veteran who has served his time in the senate. But your right, lets vote for a guy simply because he is black, thats smart.
McCain is famous for getting sodomized as a pow for 5 years
Obama has pretty much earned everything in his life. McCain is where he is because he's an admiral's son.
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McCain did a great thing serving his country.
They both love the USA. Eitehr man could be making a lot more mone in the private sector.
You have to decide if you like how things are, or if you want change.
Mccain claims to be the 'change guy', but has many Bush positions, so not a lot can change.
Obama will change things, as his platform is very different from Bush.
It you're happy now, vote mccain.
If you're not, vote Obama.
It's that simple.
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I'm not an Obama supporter, but I would have to be a retard to not vote for him for this upcoming election. McCain/Palin represents 100%, pure, uncut incompentence. His biggest mistake was announcing Palin as his VP. That alone, lost his vote from me, as the more intelligent voters all knew that he pulled her in to combat Obama's appeal. The biggest mistake is that his campaign did not do the necessary diligence to check that she also had the brains to go with the looks.
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McCain is famous for getting sodomized as a pow for 5 years
Obama has pretty much earned everything in his life. McCain is where he is because he's an admiral's son.
Do you think Obama took advantage of affirmative action?
It you're happy now, vote mccain.
If you're not, vote Obama.
It's that simple.
Maybe not that simple, there will be more names on the ballet, won't there?
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Do you think Obama took advantage of affirmative action?
Maybe not that simple, there will be more names on the ballet, won't there?
Do you know what Affirmative Action is? No, not at all. He was top of his class at Harvard Law, President of the Harvard law Review, so where would he go get a job where he wasn't qualified and they "pushed him through" when someone else was more qualified than him...??? His "man job" was a Constitutional law Professor, and a Civil Rights Attorney, so did he only get the job because he was black? With that resume, I think not...
Yes there will be more names, vote for them, and you are voting for the same, since that "vote" wont do anything to change our country, but it is your right to vote for someone who wont get in office.
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Do you know what Affirmative Action is? No, not at all. He was top of his class at Harvard Law, President of the Harvard law Review, so where would he go get a job where he wasn't qualified and they "pushed him through" when someone else was more qualified than him...??? His "man job" was a Constitutional law Professor, and a Civil Rights Attorney, so did he only get the job because he was black? With that resume, I think not...
I keep seeing Harvard this and Harvard that, how'd he end up at Harvard?
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I keep seeing Harvard this and Harvard that, how'd he end up at Harvard?
I dont know, but its kinda dumb for you to ASSume he got in because he has a black dad. If you DON'T have the grades and the right letters of Rec. from professors at his IVY league Undergrad school, you DONT get in. PERIOD and graduating "Top of your class" shows you belonged...
People who get into HARVARD either
A- Are qualified
B- get in like bush did, on his daddy's name.
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Do you think Obama took advantage of affirmative action?
Maybe not that simple, there will be more names on the ballet, won't there?
Obama never needed affirmative action. He made straight A's through high school and graduated from Harvard with highest honors.
Affirmative action is not really regulated anymore so its a null subject.
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The truth hurts. She's lying about a lot of things, she's dodging the troopergate investigation by refusing to testify after she said she would.
The more people learn about her, the more they realize she's hot, but she's a religious nutbag who isn't experienced enough to run the most powerful nation on earth.
I live in thailand most of my life and looking at america you guys are just idiots that think your the most powerful nation on earth, but in all honesty we USE you guys for everything possible and you guys fall for it. I lived in florida a republican state and live in arizona so I been around the world my fiend you on the other hand just hang out in florida and wait for the tampa bbing shows. ::)
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but she's a religious nutbag who isn't experienced enough to run the most powerful nation on earth.
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Is she running for office in China?
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but she's a religious nutbag who isn't experienced enough to run the most powerful nation on earth.
Is she running for office in China?
We are still the most powerful, we could turn china into glass in 45 seconds... But they are a economic powerhouse for sure...
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We are still the most powerful, we could turn china each other into glass in 45 seconds... But they are a economic powerhouse for sure...
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I keep seeing Harvard this and Harvard that, how'd he end up at Harvard?
uhh...Graduating from Columbia University with Honors usually helps with that. ::)
I live in thailand most of my life and looking at america you guys are just idiots that think your the most powerful nation on earth, but in all honesty we USE you guys for everything possible and you guys fall for it. I lived in florida a republican state and live in arizona so I been around the world my fiend you on the other hand just hang out in florida and wait for the tampa bbing shows. ::)
Got something to say under your gh15 handle, bro?
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I keep seeing Harvard this and Harvard that, how'd he end up at Harvard?
My brother went to the Ivy Leagues and all he got from a few white classmates was the "affirmative action". Get they were pissed he did better than them, which he did.
He got in on merit. Also got where he is today 15 years later on merit, with a touch of racism tossed at him along the way by morons of course.
Anyone recall how much they said that about the Williams sister and Tiger Woods years ago? Wonder how being black made them have careers for years where they won over and over and over.
Whenever black folk do anything well initially in a typically white domain - someone screams affirmative action.
Shame that the American culture is so often so obsessed with race, they simply cannot see the person.
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My brother went to the Ivy Leagues and all he got from a few white classmates was the "affirmative action". Get they were pissed he did better than them, which he did.
He got in on merit. Also got where he is today 15 years later on merit, with a touch of racism tossed at him along the way by morons of course.
Anyone recall how much they said that about the Williams sister and Tiger Woods years ago? Wonder how being black made them have careers for years where they won over and over and over.
Whenever black folk do anything well initially in a typically white domain - someone screams affirmative action.
Shame that the American culture is so often so obsessed with race, they simply cannot see the person.
old habits die hard
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My brother went to the Ivy Leagues and all he got from a few white classmates was the "affirmative action". Get they were pissed he did better than them, which he did.
He got in on merit. Also got where he is today 15 years later on merit, with a touch of racism tossed at him along the way by morons of course.
Anyone recall how much they said that about the Williams sister and Tiger Woods years ago? Wonder how being black made them have careers for years where they won over and over and over.
Whenever black folk do anything well initially in a typically white domain - someone screams affirmative action.
Shame that the American culture is so often so obsessed with race, they simply cannot see the person.
Settle down "CQ", the examples you gave are for sports.......completely different. I don't doubt he did it on his own merit, I'm just stirring shit, like everyone else throwing out crap about every other candidate.
.........someone said he got straight A's in HS, how do we know this is true? How did he end up at Columbia University? Graduated with Honors in what?
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Even if they fall 10 pts, she will still be way ahead of Obama and Biden. The Washington outsider will take it to them.
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.........someone said he got straight A's in HS, how do we know this is true? How did he end up at Columbia University? Graduated with Honors in what?
Geez bro, do some of your own research. ::) Obama majored in Political Science with a specialization in International Relations at Columbia.
His high school grades...who cares? ???
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When asked about her lack of foreign policy credentials, her answer to Charlie Gibson was something like "I believe that my energy experience helps with..."
I worked for almost 2 years at a college career center. I've practice-interviewed hundreds of kids preparing for REAL job interviews.
Anytime you ask a question about topic A, and they respond with "I believe my "experience" with Topic B will help...", it's a direct signal they don't know shit about topic A.
The Putins of this world aren't stupid. Her experience in unsuccessfully pimping an oil pipeline doesn't make her prepared for an oil crisis, financial meltdown, housing market, etc.
As much as I hated the guy, I sure do miss Mitt Romney right now. He's strong with the economy, and she's not.
I really miss Tim Russert. he would have had this lady pinned with hard questions, she would run her ass back to Alaska. R.I.P, Russert
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Obama never needed affirmative action. He made straight A's through high school and graduated from Harvard with highest honors.
Now let's compare this to the current presidents scholastic record...
I really hate people like George Bush, to come into this world with a silver spoon in your mouth, and just be a fuck up all the way through. A poor student in college. Bankrupting every company he ever headed. Killing the value of the dollar around the world to line the pockets of his sleazy, slimey friends. Basically just GIVEN everything to him since birth.
Now compare it to a guy like Barack Obama. He came from basically nothing (especially when compared to Bush) and Graduated from Harvard with Highest Honors!
I go out to East Texas to visit family members and to listen to the names that people who have 5% of his intelligence call him, it really makes me lose faith in this country.
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Barack does not seem to be the type of person who needed affirmative action to be where he is. He is intelligent and very motivated.
I hope they abandon affirmative action very soon. Its a double edge sword for minorities. I have also directly seen it hurt people in several instances. In awarding federal gov contracts (and any federal job), they give significant preferential treatment to minority owned companies and hire minority leaders. I've also seen this with medical school entrance committees where they are told to lower the entrance standards for minority students compared to all others. I would love to see Barack strike this from law now. I see the historical intent and history of injustice, but things have become more complicated now. Who really is a minority? With all the race mixing in America, what % hispanic or black must they be? Whites will no longer be the majority in 25yrs. What about immigrants of other countries? How about poor non-black/non-hispanics who grew up in the same communities? Poor muslims? Why continue to fight racism with racism? If AA is removed then no non-minorities can cry affirmative action and minorities can be proud they were the best person for the job.
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In fairness, several Obama ads have distorted truths. CNN called them on 4 different ads last night. Thats a lot of distortion IMO. They both do it, neither is above the other. In listening to Barack, he criticizes McCain directly much more than the reverse.
I would have been more comfortable with a Romney choice as well, particularly in this climate. None of the 4 of them are economic experts...hope they have good advisors.
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Yes, Newsweek is VERY liberal. The I think 12 staff writers, 10 are liberal/Dems and 2 are Republican. Guess which ones get put to the back of the bus?
If you don't like biased news commentary, then why do you spend so much time idolizing Rush?
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If you don't like biased news commentary, then why do you spend so much time idolizing Rush?
its only biased if it leans in the wrong direction......
thats why he loves rush....people like that flock together...
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Do you know what Affirmative Action is? No, not at all. He was top of his class at Harvard Law, President of the Harvard law Review, so where would he go get a job where he wasn't qualified and they "pushed him through" when someone else was more qualified than him...??? His "man job" was a Constitutional law Professor, and a Civil Rights Attorney, so did he only get the job because he was black? With that resume, I think not...
Yes there will be more names, vote for them, and you are voting for the same, since that "vote" wont do anything to change our country, but it is your right to vote for someone who wont get in office.
He was made President of the Law Review because certain people complained that there was no diversity in the organization. The Boston Globe cronicled it several months ago. He was never a professor, he taught a course. He never tried any cases...all of this was part time as well. This guy hasn't had a full time job for 4 straight years, in his life.