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Title: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: CigaretteMan on September 17, 2008, 01:59:45 PM
  This is a follow up to the discussion there was in this board a few days ago. To answer the question, Kaká is undoubtedly the greatest athlete in the World currently. The reason for this is that he is the best player of the most popular sport, so there is strong reason to regard him as such, although I'm sure that biased Americans will disagree. Here is a video of him:

  www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvB2jw23QGY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvB2jw23QGY)
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: Bobby on September 17, 2008, 02:12:47 PM
is he natural? :D
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: wes mantooth on September 17, 2008, 02:17:44 PM
cig....you lost me at :41 when i only saw one goal.....


action packed :(
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Post by: spinnis on September 17, 2008, 02:22:53 PM
(http://www.sportslegendsphotosinc.com/prodimages/Wrestling/BillGoldbergClr.jpg)
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: onlyme on September 17, 2008, 02:49:07 PM
  This is a follow up to the discussion there was in this board a few days ago. To answer the question, Kaká is undoubtedly the greatest athlete in the World currently. The reason for this is that he is the best player of the most popular sport, so there is strong reason to regard him as such, although I'm sure that biased Americans will disagree. Here is a video of him:

  www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvB2jw23QGY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvB2jw23QGY)

wrong.  can he throw, can he hit, can he catch, can he run fast, can he run long distance, can he step into any sports and be competitive with professionals in that sports naturally
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: m8 on September 17, 2008, 02:57:42 PM
Caca = "shit" in French. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: Petrucci on September 17, 2008, 03:00:25 PM
  This is a follow up to the discussion there was in this board a few days ago. To answer the question, Kaká is undoubtedly the greatest athlete in the World currently. The reason for this is that he is the best player of the most popular sport, so there is strong reason to regard him as such, although I'm sure that biased Americans will disagree. Here is a video of him:

  www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvB2jw23QGY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvB2jw23QGY)

hahahaha, put the crack pipe down son...

ronaldo in his best years was MILLIONS years ahead of kaka..

he is a good player ,just this...not the best soccer player even less the best athlete...
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: CigaretteMan on September 17, 2008, 03:11:16 PM
hahahaha, put the crack pipe down son...

ronaldo in his best years was MILLIONS years ahead of kaka..

he is a good player ,just this...not the best soccer player even less the best athlete...

  I am not your son. Furthermore, I said he is the best athlete in the World today. Learn to read, nincompoop. And I base my argument that he is the best athlete because he's the best at the World's most popular sport.
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: CigaretteMan on September 17, 2008, 03:18:49 PM
wrong.  can he throw, can he hit, can he catch, can he run fast, can he run long distance, can he step into any sports and be competitive with professionals in that sports naturally

  Obviously there are a million different sports, and no one can be good at all of them. So trying to decide who's the best based on who can play the most sports is futile. No athlete excels at more than one sport with the exception of trathletes and pentathletes, and you can't consider them the best in the World because in the case of trathletes, and even though they excel at 3 different sports, all of them have the common denominator of being endurance-based. So I propose the criteria to determine the World's best athlete as the one who can excel the most at the sport that has the biggest following. Going by the criteria, Kaká is the best by far. And "soocer" demands endurance, speed, coordination and strengh, making it a very complete sport and thus those who excel at it are very complete athletes.                                                         
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: Parker on September 17, 2008, 03:24:17 PM
Ahem...

He's got some tough comp. in Ronaldinho
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: onlyme on September 17, 2008, 03:35:43 PM
  Obviously there are a million different sports, and no one can be good at all of them. So trying to decide who's the best based on who can play the most sports is futile. No athlete excels at more than one sport with the exception of trathletes and pentathletes, and you can't consider them the best in the World because in the case of trathletes, and even though they excel at 3 different sports, all of them have the common denominator of being endurance-based. So I propose the criteria to determine the World's best athlete as the one who can excel the most at the sport that has the biggest following. Going by the criteria, Kaká is the best by far. And "soocer" demands endurance, speed, coordination and strengh, making it a very complete sport and thus those who excel at it are very complete athletes.                                                         

But it takes NO upper body skill or strength.  He may have great footwork and can handle a ball which would make him a great soccer player but to call him an All-Round Greatest Athlete is a huge stretch.  He may be uncoordinated in everything else.
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: polychronopolous on September 17, 2008, 06:38:03 PM
He has great soccer skills, that is NO WAY makes him the greatest athlete. How fast can he run? How high/far can he jump? How strong is he? How agile is he? These things are the main factors when deciding the best athlete?
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: Camel Jockey on September 17, 2008, 06:42:19 PM
Christiano Ronaldo
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: Howard on September 17, 2008, 06:45:46 PM
  This is a follow up to the discussion there was in this board a few days ago. To answer the question, Kaká is undoubtedly the greatest athlete in the World currently. The reason for this is that he is the best player of the most popular sport, so there is strong reason to regard him as such, although I'm sure that biased Americans will disagree. Here is a video of him:

  www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvB2jw23QGY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvB2jw23QGY)
he doesn't wear star wars helmet when plays like Kamalli does when he "performs" so right there that dq's him from the title of the best athlete.
I bet he never even mentioned Muscle Tech as the reason for his success. Some athlete????
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: Voice of Doom on September 17, 2008, 06:47:57 PM
The best athlete in the world are the Gold Medal winners in the Olympic Decathalon...end of thread.
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: alejandro_torres on September 17, 2008, 06:52:07 PM
ronaldo

ronaldinho

messi

Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: Howard on September 17, 2008, 06:54:50 PM
The best athlete in the world are the Gold Medal winners in the Olympic Decathalon...end of thread.
Sure they can run, jump and throw objects. But can they hike up their trunks, flex their ass?
I think NOT.
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: Petrucci on September 18, 2008, 04:20:24 AM
  I am not your son. Furthermore, I said he is the best athlete in the World today. Learn to read, nincompoop. And I base my argument that he is the best athlete because he's the best at the World's most popular sport.

well, i didnt know you would get so upset...so calm down a little ok? its just the internet

second, who said he IS the best in the world? you?

and as someone said, i would never considerer a soccer player the best athlete in the world...i think you would have to do a lot more to receive this kind of recognition
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: jayfromeurope on September 18, 2008, 05:23:32 AM
Soccer is for Gay who find football to tough. Hope this help.
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: m8 on September 18, 2008, 05:48:03 AM
Soccer is for Gay who find football to tough. Hope this help.

American Football is for american pussies who find rugby too dangerous/tough. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: Bear on September 18, 2008, 05:58:19 AM
  This is a follow up to the discussion there was in this board a few days ago. To answer the question, Kaká is undoubtedly the greatest athlete in the World currently. The reason for this is that he is the best player of the most popular sport, so there is strong reason to regard him as such, although I'm sure that biased Americans will disagree. Here is a video of him:

  www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvB2jw23QGY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvB2jw23QGY)

Ronaldo is World Player of the Year.

Hope this helps.
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Post by: Tre on September 18, 2008, 06:03:35 AM

Kaka = one of the best athlete names of all-time
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: Nordic Beast on September 18, 2008, 06:05:57 AM
In other news:


NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT FAGGY SOCCER PLAYERS IN AMERICA-----so do us a favor and keep your little fairy sport news off the G&O ;D

thanks  :D
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: m8 on September 18, 2008, 06:08:15 AM
Kaka = one of the best athlete names of all-time

Yes.
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: Bear on September 18, 2008, 06:08:24 AM
Haha yeah, stick to the 'world series' which America wins every year I hear?!?!  ::)
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: divcom on September 18, 2008, 07:03:31 AM
Ronaldinho when he decides to get fit again and stop the party.  >:(

(http://www.terra.com/addon/img/deportes/futbol/a98e44ronaldinho130p.jpg)
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: Tre on September 18, 2008, 07:18:46 AM
Ronaldinho when he decides to get fit again and stop the party.  >:(

(http://www.terra.com/addon/img/deportes/futbol/a98e44ronaldinho130p.jpg)

Isn't he the one who got robbed by those tranny hookers? 
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: alejandro_torres on September 18, 2008, 07:30:18 AM
Ronaldo is World Player of the Year.

Hope this helps.


didnt kaka win that this year?????

Isn't he the one who got robbed by those tranny hookers? 
he is ronaldinho... long hair

you are mistaking him with ronaldo... bald and fat
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: Bobby on September 18, 2008, 07:42:56 AM
Ahem...

He's got some tough comp. in Ronaldinho


excellent! at his best, he is better.
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: CigaretteMan on September 18, 2008, 07:47:00 AM
In other news:


NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT FAGGY SOCCER PLAYERS IN AMERICA-----so do us a favor and keep your little fairy sport news off the G&O ;D

thanks  :D

  No one outside the U.S cares seeing a bunch of overweight 350 lbs guys, who can barely walk without having a heart attack, playing a sport that has ten minutes interruptions every two minutes. This is the concept you don't seem to grasp in your American mind.

  And this is an international and not American board. The owner is American/Israeli and most members are American, yes, but it is still an international board. You need to open your mind for new possibilities and explore new horizons, instead of remaining with your hillbilly cowboy mentality.
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: CigaretteMan on September 18, 2008, 07:52:16 AM
But it takes NO upper body skill or strength.  He may have great footwork and can handle a ball which would make him a great soccer player but to call him an All-Round Greatest Athlete is a huge stretch.  He may be uncoordinated in everything else.

  Again, show me a single sport that demands all physical attributes there is, like strengh, coordination, stamina and power? There isn't any. The closest thing are triathlon, pentathlon and decathlon, but these three sports are a combination of several sports that demand more stamina than anything els, and in the case of decathlon it involves sports that demand no athletic kills whatsoever, like shooting a gun and riding a horse. This is why I believe that the title of greatest athlete in the World should go to the best athlete of the World's most popular sport. In this case, this would be Kaká.
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: hipolito mejia on September 18, 2008, 08:00:49 AM
Caca = "shit" in French. Hope this helps.

Means the same in spanish too.
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: QuakerOats on September 18, 2008, 08:03:09 AM
hahahahhaa, can you imagine this skinny faggggot nerd in the NFL?
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: Hypo on September 18, 2008, 08:19:39 AM
But it takes NO upper body skill or strength.  He may have great footwork and can handle a ball which would make him a great soccer player but to call him an All-Round Greatest Athlete is a huge stretch.  He may be uncoordinated in everything else.

You'd be surprised how much upper body strength can help in soccer. Balance and upper body strength helps tremendously especially when dealing with high balls: ie heading in congested areas.
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: QuakerOats on September 18, 2008, 08:23:10 AM
soccer players are good runners, that's it, terrible athletes, NFL players are the best athletes.
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: BlueDevil on September 18, 2008, 08:24:51 AM


bullshit

gymnasts are the best athletes
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: CigaretteMan on September 18, 2008, 08:52:42 AM
hahahahhaa, can you imagine this skinny faggggot nerd in the NFL?

  He wouldn't be in the NFL because he's a real athlete who is agile and has stamina, and not a 350 lbs obese who needs to stop and rest for 10 minutes after 2 minutes of of walking 5 yards. American football players are the least athletic of any athletes, and that's a well known fact. You have proven yourself to be, once again, an ignorant American.
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: CigaretteMan on September 18, 2008, 08:54:43 AM
soccer players are good runners, that's it, terrible athletes, NFL players are the best athletes.

  You prove your ignorance once again. NFL players are overweight, unathletic and can barely move for more than a few minutes before needing to rest for an hour.
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: QuakerOats on September 18, 2008, 08:56:34 AM
hahahahhaa, double post bitter eurotrash meltdown. :D
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: Tre on September 18, 2008, 08:59:17 AM

bullshit

gymnasts are the best athletes

Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: BlueDevil on September 18, 2008, 09:01:32 AM


excellent display of manliness by these great athletes
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: CigaretteMan on September 18, 2008, 09:06:20 AM
hahahahhaa, double post bitter eurotrash meltdown. :D

  From what I've heard, you live in a trailer. I think you're hardly in the position to call anyone trash... ;)
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: onlyme on September 18, 2008, 09:08:11 AM
  You prove your ignorance once again. NFL players are overweight, unathletic and can barely move for more than a few minutes before needing to rest for an hour.

Kaka it is an honor having you post here.  But you are only a great soccer player and athlete.  NOT even close to being the best all-round athlete in the world.
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: QuakerOats on September 18, 2008, 09:09:21 AM
  From what I've heard, you live in a trailer. I think you're hardly in the position to call anyone trash... ;)
don't live in a trailer but you are skinny eurotrash if you're even comparing that skinny mulatto nerd to the elite athletes of the mighty NFL.
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: CigaretteMan on September 18, 2008, 09:15:36 AM
don't live in a trailer but you are skinny eurotrash if you're even comparing that skinny mulatto nerd to the elite athletes of the mighty NFL.

  How are the "mighty" players of the NFL better than him? Can they run faster than him? No. Can they kick harder than him? No. Do they have more stamina than him? No. Are they more agile than him? No. More coordinated? No. The only thing they have more is sheer bulk, and it's not mostly muscle either. Explain to all of us how are the players of a sport that has 10 minutes of interruption for every 2 minutes of game more athletic than the players of a sport that consists of 45 minutes of never ending action? I am waiting for your explanation, trailer trash boy. ;)
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: onlyme on September 18, 2008, 09:27:10 AM
  How are the "mighty" players of the NFL better than him? Can they run faster than him? No. Can they kick harder than him? No. Do they have more stamina than him? No. Are they more agile than him? No. More coordinated? No. The only thing they have more is sheer bulk, and it's not mostly muscle either. Explain to all of us how are the players of a sport that has 10 minutes of interruption for every 2 minutes of game more athletic than the players of a sport that consists of 45 minutes of never ending action? I am waiting for your explanation, trailer trash boy. ;)

You are NOT faster than any running back in the NFL.  What is your 40 time.  Like I said you are a great soccer player.  Just leave it at that. 
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: onlyme on September 18, 2008, 09:38:00 AM
  He wouldn't be in the NFL because he's a real athlete who is agile and has stamina, and not a 350 lbs obese who needs to stop and rest for 10 minutes after 2 minutes of of walking 5 yards. American football players are the least athletic of any athletes, and that's a well known fact. You have proven yourself to be, once again, an ignorant American.

Here are videos of many guys who can do what you do on the soccer field with the ball.  By the way I don't see you much in any of them





  kids doig stuff you can't



And there are MANY more.  So please save what dignity you have left and just take it that you are a great soccer player and thats it.
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: CigaretteMan on September 18, 2008, 10:11:36 AM
You are NOT faster than any running back in the NFL.  What is your 40 time.  Like I said you are a great soccer player.  Just leave it at that. 

  Wow, you really think I am him? I'm flattered. Thanks. Unfortunately, just because I defend him that doesen't make me him. Anyway, there isn't any athlete in the World that deserves to be regarded as great as Kaká. He is the best in the World'd most popular sport.
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: disco_stu on September 18, 2008, 01:40:43 PM
the best athletes play australian rules football. its the only sport that requires the use of hand, feet, catching, kicking, hard hits, tackling, sprinting, stamina, blocking, anticipation, accuracy, teamwork.

soccer is to sport as g4p is to bodybuilding.
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: onlyme on September 18, 2008, 02:44:40 PM
the best athletes play australian rules football. its the only sport that requires the use of hand, feet, catching, kicking, hard hits, tackling, sprinting, stamina, blocking, anticipation, accuracy, teamwork.

soccer is to sport as g4p is to bodybuilding.


Very good point.  Rugby is about the same as soccer but all the other mixed in. 
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: CigaretteMan on September 19, 2008, 02:21:22 AM
You are NOT faster than any running back in the NFL.  What is your 40 time.  Like I said you are a great soccer player.  Just leave it at that. 

  You are extremely annoying, you know that? An NFL player is in no way, shape or from even remotely as fast, resilient, coordinated and agile as a "soccer" player.

  You have failed to show a single sport that demands all physical talents at once. Hence, the title of best athlete goes to the World's best player in the World's most popular sport.

  And stop talking as if I were Kaká. That only makes you look even more stupid than you already are. Sure, Kaká would be posting on a bodybuilding board and defending his reputation from a nobody. That is pretty funny.
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: Tombo on September 19, 2008, 02:34:04 AM
wrong.  can he throw, can he hit, can he catch, can he run fast, can he run long distance, can he step into any sports and be competitive with professionals in that sports naturally

who do you know that could do that though? of course in one sport skills are going to be specialized .. some people might have a natural talent but its such a stupid thing to argue about
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: rccs on September 19, 2008, 02:40:00 AM
Caca = "shit" in French. Hope this helps.

Same in portuguese ahahaha... btw soccer players are the worst athletes in the world... they are pussies...
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: Nordic Beast on September 19, 2008, 03:29:09 AM
  You are extremely annoying, you know that? An NFL player is in no way, shape or from even remotely as fast, resilient, coordinated and agile as a "soccer" player.

  You have failed to show a single sport that demands all physical talents at once. Hence, the title of best athlete goes to the World's best player in the World's most popular sport.

  And stop talking as if I were Kaká. That only makes you look even more stupid than you already are. Sure, Kaká would be posting on a bodybuilding board and defending his reputation from a nobody. That is pretty funny.
::)

OMG you must be smoking crack------soccer you can only use your legs to chase and dribble around a ball, thus you dont get to show the true agility it takes to free run or the strength it takes to knock down or fend off  6ft 8 300lb monsters who are trying to tackle you

there is no strength in soccer!!!!!!!!!!! the NFL truly combines all atheltic attributes, speed, agility, strength, balance, toughness etc....

american football players are teh best and most athletic physical specimans in the world hands down------just put a top level running back next to a scrawny emaciated soccer player and its obvious

soccer is for pussies who dont want to get "dirty" or "hurt"
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: Nordic Beast on September 19, 2008, 03:39:34 AM


Id give my left leg to see "kaka" take a hit from Bruce Smith in his prime and just shuck it off and run away from mad other people for a touchdown
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: CigaretteMan on September 19, 2008, 04:14:47 AM


OMG you must be smoking crack------soccer you can only use your legs to chase and dribble around a ball, thus you dont get to show the true agility it takes to free run or the strength it takes to knock down or fend off  6ft 8 300lb monsters who are trying to tackle you

there is no strength in soccer!!!!!!!!!!! the NFL truly combines all atheltic attributes, speed, agility, strength, balance, toughness etc....

american football players are teh best and most athletic physical specimans in the world hands down------just put a top level running back next to a scrawny emaciated soccer player and its obvious

soccer is for pussies who dont want to get "dirty" or "hurt"

  You have shown yourself to be the typical ignorant American. Why don't you go out of your neck of the woods in Oklahoma or some other place of hicks, and actually see more of the World before you go around saying that everything American is the best in the World. These are the facts:

  - American football players cannot run as fast as "soccer" players.

  - American football players do not have the stamina of "soccer" players.

  - American football players are no more agile than "soccer" players.

  - American football players are no more coordinated than "soccer" players.

  Again, explain how are athletes from a sport that has 2 minutes of action for 10 minutes of interruption, and who can't run for more than minute without being exhausted, more athletic than atheltes from a sport that consists of 45 minutes of non-stop running and sustained coordination?

  How are 350 lbs guys with 25% bodyfat who cannot move for more than 2 minutes without having a heart attack that athletic? American football requires nothing but short bursts of power. That is it. It requires no stamina or agility whatsoever. Quarterbacks and fullbacks do need a little more stamina and agility than the other players, but they never exert effort for as long as "soccer" players, and you don't see the incredible displays of agility and coordination that you see in "soccer" and also in basketball for that matter. I cannot watch American footbal. It is the most boring sport ever. They play for a minute than the game is interrupted for 10, and all the most players do is charge against each other and try to tackle one another like sumo wrestlers. By the way, American football and Sumo have a lot in common: the athletes are severely overweight and all they do is try to tackle one another and then the whole thing is interrupted for 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: Nordic Beast on September 19, 2008, 04:24:43 AM
 

  - American football players cannot run as fast as "soccer" players.

WRONG-----take the fastest guys in the NFL they are running 4.2 sec 40's--------some even run sub 4.2------do you even know the stats ???

  - American football players do not have the stamina of "soccer" players.

Soccer is a game of endurance---where they run back and forth , back and forth---so they better have endurance.  Football is about explosivness, a lot of the recievers and runninbacks and defensive players have mad endurance, try running around at full speed, trying to keep up with dudes who run 4.2 40's and see if you are tired
  - American football players are no more agile than "soccer" players.

WRONG----football players are much more agile since they FREE RUN and have to change direction and have balance and coordination in their whole body not just in hte lower half controlling a ball, football players must be able to be used to changing their center of balance in a nanosecond when they are spinning off a 250lb linebacker to the next second when they are getting plowed into full speed by a 300lb lineman and shucking it off

  - American football players are no more coordinated than "soccer" players.

WRONG---see above

plus football players are running for survival---its war out there, no pussy little slide tackles-----you need strength and toughness to deal with the monsters that come at you in football.
 


you are teh ignorant one with the backward ideas.  You know nothing about football or the atheletes who are in it :-\
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: rccs on September 19, 2008, 04:35:13 AM
  You have shown yourself to be the typical ignorant American. Why don't you go out of your neck of the woods in Oklahoma or some other place of hicks, and actually see more of the World before you go around saying that everything American is the best in the World. These are the facts:

  - American football players cannot run as fast as "soccer" players.

  - American football players do not have the stamina of "soccer" players.

  - American football players are no more agile than "soccer" players.

  - American football players are no more coordinated than "soccer" players.

  Again, explain how are athletes from a sport that has 2 minutes of action for 10 minutes of interruption, and who can't run for more than minute without being exhausted, more athletic than atheltes from a sport that consists of 45 minutes of non-stop running and sustained coordination?

  How are 350 lbs guys with 25% bodyfat who cannot move for more than 2 minutes without having a heart attack that athletic? American football requires nothing but short bursts of power. That is it. It requires no stamina or agility whatsoever. Quarterbacks and fullbacks do need a little more stamina and agility than the other players, but they never exert effort for as long as "soccer" players, and you don't see the incredible displays of agility and coordination that you see in "soccer" and also in basketball for that matter. I cannot watch American footbal. It is the most boring sport ever. They play for a minute than the game is interrupted for 10, and all the most players do is charge against each other and try to tackle one another like sumo wrestlers. By the way, American football and Sumo have a lot in common: the athletes are severely overweight and all they do is try to tackle one another and then the whole thing is interrupted for 10 minutes.
I completely disagree... For example, Chabal is well over 100kg and he is very fast, strog and coordinated...
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: Bobby on September 19, 2008, 04:52:02 AM
gayer than arguing over who's favorite sport has the most athletic players
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: Gino30 on September 19, 2008, 05:01:16 AM
Kaka is very good....but he'll never be a Dejan Savicevic - the one who Berlusconi (owner of AC Milan) called The Genius

He was Europe's Diego Maradona of his era (~ 91-94).....forget Rudd Gullit, Boban, Van Basten, Marcel Desailly or the rest of the AC Milan legends....Savicevic was it.....the most gifted European player of his generation.

Ahhhh, the good old days....

Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: polychronopolous on September 19, 2008, 05:29:37 AM
  You are extremely annoying, you know that? An NFL player is in no way, shape or from even remotely as fast, resilient, coordinated and agile as a "soccer" player.
LOL, you never cease me to amaze me with your Euro biased delusions.
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: m8 on September 19, 2008, 06:08:02 AM
I completely disagree... For example, Chabal is well over 100kg and he is very fast, strog and coordinated...

Chabal is the man BUT he plays Rugby. American football is like the pussy version of rugby.
Most NFL players wouldn't even be able to last 15 minutes let alone 80 full minutes in a rugby game, and it's a fact.
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Post by: webcake on September 19, 2008, 06:09:45 AM
Chabal is the man BUT he plays Rugby. American football is like the pussy version of rugby.
Most NFL players wouldn't even be able to last 15 minutes let alone 80 full minutes in a rugby game, and it's a fact.

Do you like Rugby League at all?

I'm a league man, but i do enjoy rugby too.
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: polychronopolous on September 19, 2008, 06:20:48 AM
Name one soccer player that is faster than Deion Sanders.

Name one rugby player who is harder to tackle/ runs harder / has more lower body strength than a prime Bo Jackson or Adrian Peterson.

The fact that a Rugby player can knock out his two front teeth, play 80 minutes and then still go to the bar and kill a 24 pack has not relevance in this conversation at all.

Bringing soccer players into this is just silly, the guys at high school who weren't strong enough or big enough to play football....played soccer, yes they had skills, yes they had decent athleticism, but they were in no way the BEST athletes.

You can make up all the excuss you want, but if these Rugby players were such great athletes they would be making millions and millions of dollars playing American Football.

Beckham, Kaka, and Ronaldo are pussies compared to Urlacher, Bob Sanders and Adrian Peterson.
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: RZA on September 19, 2008, 06:52:36 AM
Allow me to interrupt but I think you're all wrong.If you're searching for the most "complete" athletes, you won't find them in team sports. NFL players as impressive as they are are one-dimensional. They're trained to fill one or two tasks and that's it. I've played soccer for years, judo, swimming, track and field (long distance), etc...And I've been around many athletes. From what I've seen, the ones that have impressed me most with their overall skills are gymnasts: those guys are flexible, muscular, have very good cardio (but their joints get fucked up). And on the other side: boxers, cruiserweights or middleweights preferably (Muay Thai or just traditional), basically insane cardio, and on a muscular level your body is stimulated from calves to abs to shoulders.
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Post by: divcom on September 19, 2008, 07:26:16 AM
Allow me to interrupt but I think you're all wrong.If you're searching for the most "complete" athletes, you won't find them in team sports. NFL players as impressive as they are are one-dimensional. They're trained to fill one or two tasks and that's it. I've played soccer for years, judo, swimming, track and field (long distance), etc...And I've been around many athletes. From what I've seen, the ones that have impressed me most with their overall skills are gymnasts: those guys are flexible, muscular, have very good cardio (but their joints get fucked up). And on the other side: boxers, cruiserweights or middleweights preferably (Muay Thai or just traditional), basically insane cardio, and on a muscular level your body is stimulated from calves to abs to shoulders.

Good one.  Football players tend to get their a$$e$ handed to them in martial/mixed/boxing type stuff no matter how good they are.

 
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Post by: Method101 on September 19, 2008, 07:32:10 AM
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freak legs.

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Post by: mass 04 on September 19, 2008, 08:28:13 AM
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OMG you must be smoking crack------soccer you can only use your legs to chase and dribble around a ball, thus you dont get to show the true agility it takes to free run or the strength it takes to knock down or fend off  6ft 8 300lb monsters who are trying to tackle you

there is no strength in soccer!!!!!!!!!!! the NFL truly combines all atheltic attributes, speed, agility, strength, balance, toughness etc....

american football players are teh best and most athletic physical specimans in the world hands down------just put a top level running back next to a scrawny emaciated soccer player and its obvious

soccer is for pussies who dont want to get "dirty" or "hurt"
hahah yes the great nordic speaking the truth as always.
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: onlyme on September 19, 2008, 09:11:57 AM
  You are extremely annoying, you know that? An NFL player is in no way, shape or from even remotely as fast, resilient, coordinated and agile as a "soccer" player.

  You have failed to show a single sport that demands all physical talents at once. Hence, the title of best athlete goes to the World's best player in the World's most popular sport.

  And stop talking as if I were Kaká. That only makes you look even more stupid than you already are. Sure, Kaká would be posting on a bodybuilding board and defending his reputation from a nobody. That is pretty funny.

Kaka why do you keep up the charade?  Face the facts you have lost the battle and the war on this subject.  You can kick a soccer ball and thats it.  I have proven there are many who can even do that better than you.  You keep saying you are the greatest athlete in the world but you can't do anything but play soccer.  All your arguments are stupid and you lose on every one of them.  YOu may be a good soccer player but you have to rank way down on the list when it comes to intelligence. Please tuck your tail between your hairy legs and get out of here now.  You have been exposed as a good soccer player who is a mediocre athlete.  Hope this helps.  By the way I have been a little on you (Kaka) and you aren't even recognized as the best soccer player in the world.  So please stop the insanity. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: divcom on September 19, 2008, 12:05:12 PM
Kaka why do you keep up the charade?  Face the facts you have lost the battle and the war on this subject.  You can kick a soccer ball and thats it.  I have proven there are many who can even do that better than you.  You keep saying you are the greatest athlete in the world but you can't do anything but play soccer.  All your arguments are stupid and you lose on every one of them.  YOu may be a good soccer player but you have to rank way down on the list when it comes to intelligence. Please tuck your tail between your hairy legs and get out of here now.  You have been exposed as a good soccer player who is a mediocre athlete.  Hope this helps.  By the way I have been a little on you (Kaka) and you aren't even recognized as the best soccer player in the world.  So please stop the insanity. ;D ;D ;D

First...Kaka isnt even the best...just had a good year. Second...how well would an NFL convert to Series A vs how a Series A player could convert to the NFL.  Barry Sanders couldnt make the conversion...just wouldnt happen at Series A.  Freddie Adu and McBride who have been playing for years are subpar/bottom bench talent in Series A.  The closest player I see to Barry Sanders is Giovanni Dos Santos...strong as kid at 5'8".  With body adjustments he could cut it as a RB in the NFL.  You dont get Series A skills late in life after 18 yrs but the NFL is loaded with guys that started football late...even with only one-two years college under their belts with no high school.  I played Quad A in Louisiana which is only 2nd to TX and FL ball, and crossed baths with likes of Marshall Faulk.   Some of you guys never played football…just watch it, take gear and lift weights, or even seen a Series A level game live in England, Italy or Spain.  Keep kind of real.

Bolt could make it in the NFL if he can catch and learn to protect himself from hits unlike Ronaldo (hurdle guy) for the 49ers a couple yrs back.  If he hasnt seen a soccer ball in Jamaica…there is no way in hell he'd develop the dribbling skills for Series A with the likes Barcelona and Man United.  Just another example.

Basically…you have raw physical specimens in the NFL vs ill skills in Series A.

The point guard Steve Nash for the Suns started soccer before basketball.  He trained with Series A in England and said he couldn’t cut it.  Guy has excellent dribbling skills also.
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Post by: whateva on September 19, 2008, 02:18:38 PM
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OMG you must be smoking crack------soccer you can only use your legs to chase and dribble around a ball, thus you dont get to show the true agility it takes to free run or the strength it takes to knock down or fend off  6ft 8 300lb monsters who are trying to tackle you

there is no strength in soccer!!!!!!!!!!! the NFL truly combines all atheltic attributes, speed, agility, strength, balance, toughness etc....

american football players are teh best and most athletic physical specimans in the world hands down------just put a top level running back next to a scrawny emaciated soccer player and its obvious

soccer is for pussies who dont want to get "dirty" or "hurt"
I agree
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: Nordic Beast on September 19, 2008, 03:14:11 PM
First...Kaka isnt even the best...just had a good year. Second...how well would an NFL convert to Series A vs how a Series A player could convert to the NFL.  Barry Sanders couldnt make the conversion...just wouldnt happen at Series A.  Freddie Adu and McBride who have been playing for years are subpar/bottom bench talent in Series A.  The closest player I see to Barry Sanders is Giovanni Dos Santos...strong as kid at 5'8".  With body adjustments he could cut it as a RB in the NFL.  You dont get Series A skills late in life after 18 yrs but the NFL is loaded with guys that started football late...even with only one-two years college under their belts with no high school.  I played Quad A in Louisiana which is only 2nd to TX and FL ball, and crossed baths with likes of Marshall Faulk.   Some of you guys never played football…just watch it, take gear and lift weights, or even seen a Series A level game live in England, Italy or Spain.  Keep kind of real.

Bolt could make it in the NFL if he can catch and learn to protect himself from hits unlike Ronaldo (hurdle guy) for the 49ers a couple yrs back.  If he hasnt seen a soccer ball in Jamaica…there is no way in hell he'd develop the dribbling skills for Series A with the likes Barcelona and Man United.  Just another example.


Basically…you have raw physical specimens in the NFL vs ill skills in Series A.


wrong---many track and field stars have tried out and failed-----its not just about speed

look at the combine---they dont just test speed

and the best in football have it all------because there are countless raw athletes out there but very few spots in the NFL

soccer players would get destroyed in the NFL----answer this question----does a soccer player NEED and HAVE TO lift weights and have great strength to be a great soccer player-----the answer is obvious, NO, but a NFL running back must be as strong as an ox with BBer quads to be able to take on hte brutes he plays against.  THus strentgh isnt integral in soccer, whereas in football it is ;)

your assumptions affirm the fact you know very little about football and the athletes who play in the NFL
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Post by: divcom on September 19, 2008, 04:23:21 PM
wrong---many track and field stars have tried out and failed-----its not just about speed

look at the combine---they dont just test speed

and the best in football have it all------because there are countless raw athletes out there but very few spots in the NFL

soccer players would get destroyed in the NFL----answer this question----does a soccer player NEED and HAVE TO lift weights and have great strength to be a great soccer player-----the answer is obvious, NO, but a NFL running back must be as strong as an ox with BBer quads to be able to take on hte brutes he plays against.  THus strentgh isnt integral in soccer, whereas in football it is ;)

your assumptions affirm the fact you know very little about football and the athletes who play in the NFL

GetDumb expert.  Giovanni Dos Santos can put on 30lbs and be groomed into a RB in the NFL.  I didnt say start you jacka$$.  Barry Sanders without youth soccer cant get a bench spot in Series A.  This isnt about weights clown.  Sanders and Warrick Dunn seldom took the big hits.  Santos has a similar build, is very quick, has excellent balance and is compact at 155 or so in Series A.  5'8" 180 is uncommon in the NFL.  D##n sure didnt see you playing Quad A.  But Howard White would know about the guys that you play against down South.

Leroy Hoard
Kordell Stewart
Tyrone Hughes
Peyton Manning
Lonnie Marts
Marshall Faulk
Eli Manning
Ronnie Coleman (Light Weight)

more if you need to know.

Gio Santos can be groomed for the NFL if the desire is there on his part.  Desire is the key word.  Barry Sander cant make Series A f##kin junior team (Sub 18).

I played Joe Brown, Starling, Cohen, and St Aug in Louisiana.  That's about 7-8 years ball.  Howard White coached at Shaw.  Dont remember him...but he was there during Toups era which is before my time.  Dont worry.  I can school over the field after high school...so that's why I passed on probably bottom end Div 1.

One of our x-board members, Shawn Ray, was ill as a high school RB and could have played D1...but couldnt make a junior Series A (Sub 17) team in Europe as a walk-on. 

Fool...read  c   l   o  s  e  l  y.  Ronaldinho has ill skills.  Barry Sanders is a better athlete who cant do those i  l   l skills out of the air...as quickly as Gio Sandos can be taught to be a RB with some weight training and desire.  He is still an elite athlete in the girlie sport he is in. 

That's right!  I'm on a bbing board with the greatest of all athletes who's members can be Kimbo in a street fight and other amazing feats. 
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: Oldschool Flip on September 19, 2008, 04:31:10 PM
  Again, show me a single sport that demands all physical attributes there is, like strengh, coordination, stamina and power? There isn't any.
Swimming. Michael Phelps has 8 Gold medals to prove he's the best. 
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This is why I believe that the title of greatest athlete in the World should go to the best athlete of the World's most popular sport. In this case, this would be Kaká.
The sport is popular only because all countries can afford to play in it. All you really need is 4 poles to stick into the ground and a ball and anyone can play. I don't deny he may be the best IN HIS SPORT, but to claim he's the best athlete because it's a popular sport is a stretch. Is he a good goalie? If not then he can't be the best if others are better than him at it.
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Post by: Grenade on September 19, 2008, 09:07:04 PM
Fedor would crush all those tiny tits.
Title: Re: Kaká: Best Athlete In The World.
Post by: tweeter on September 19, 2008, 09:21:56 PM
Here is a real athlete...Devin Hester! Here he is with his ride!!