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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: abc123 on September 19, 2008, 02:20:28 AM
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People keep asking me so...
My experience with AG Guys is the following:
Any liquid products that can be 'felt' (i.e Clen, T3, etc.) or where the results can be quickly 'seen' (i.e Viagra, Nolva, etc.) are dosed somewhere in the range of %50 or better. Clen seems the best. Its just not that easy to get away with underdosing these products.
Any liquids that cannot be felt (i.e. Aromasin, Adex, Letro, etc.) are very weak. I ran pharma Aromasin for eigth weeks and then switched to L-Aroma and had terrible results. Even tripling the dose did not work. I gave up and went back to pharma.
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my experiances with ag-g are ok...
Im starting to think all these labs & "research" companies who advertise on forums etc. are very shady.
Got screwed over by many of them. Lost too much money I think the pharma grade quieter sources are probably better.
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my experiances with ag-g are ok...
Im starting to think all these labs & "research" companies who advertise on forums etc. are very shady.
Got screwed over by many of them. Lost too much money I think the pharma grade quieter sources are probably better.
there are some good ones, but ag-guys have been around for 5 or 6 years atleast. A lot of these companies come and go. The new ones usually put out some good stuff then disappear.
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Yeah no don't get me wrong I agree A-G has a good product from my experiance.
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AG-GUY are good man. I wouldn't use them for Anti Estrogens as I would much rather trust pharma, and their products taste like ass, but I've had great results with the Clen.
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Innovative-research has great products for much cheaper.
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i have great experience with innovative as i do use them for all my adex and such. if i feel any irritation, i use it and it goes away. i trust them and have had great results :)
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They put cheaper powders in more expensive products; you think you're getting aromasin when in fact it's cheap clomid.
Who's gonna find out anyway... ::)
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ag guys?
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im on 1g/day of innovative research a-dex.....its not doing its job, still getting pointy nips. have an ag-guys order on the way, hope their product works...... i too am getting the feeling the the research chemical companies are junk. anyone order from xlpharmacy?
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im on 1g/day of innovative research a-dex.....its not doing its job, still getting pointy nips. have an ag-guys order on the way, hope their product works...... i too am getting the feeling the the research chemical companies are junk. anyone order from xlpharmacy?
you need to check out eds-research.com
Insane prices.
Have some nolva on the way.
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They put cheaper powders in more expensive products; you think you're getting aromasin when in fact it's cheap clomid.
Who's gonna find out anyway... ::)
UG labs also put winny powder in anavar tablets to sell it at higher prices. :-\
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have you had experience with eds-research?? good ones?
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their prices are soo low...must be underdosed!
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UG labs also put winny powder in anavar tablets to sell it at higher prices. :-\
A well known national competitor from the bay area had a little misap with clomid; it would mess up his vision pretty bad; some side stayed permanently; he was pretty disapointed to run lab test on liquidaroma and liquidex and find it was more half clomid loaded...
his vision is damaged for life.
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A well known national competitor from the bay area had a little misap with clomid; it would mess up his vision pretty bad; some side stayed permanently; he was pretty disapointed to run lab test on liquidaroma and liquidex and find it was more half clomid loaded...
his vision is damaged for life.
That really sucks. I've never really had vision issues with Clomid but it really gave me weird & vivid dreams. They were bad but they were dreams that made you wake up going "what the fuck?".
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sorry, wofe had it on japanese typing lol do you know what site it was from??
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im on 1g/day of innovative research a-dex.....its not doing its job, still getting pointy nips. have an ag-guys order on the way, hope their product works...... i too am getting the feeling the the research chemical companies are junk. anyone order from xlpharmacy?
That's funny, ive been using them for quite sometime and it works very well for me, and I'm quite gyno prone. Just used it on 800mg test and worked perfect!
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A well known national competitor from the bay area had a little misap with clomid; it would mess up his vision pretty bad; some side stayed permanently; he was pretty disapointed to run lab test on liquidaroma and liquidex and find it was more half clomid loaded...
his vision is damaged for life.
What site was this?
If guys know of experiences like this or even just poor/incorrect dosing please let us all know. Not to sound gay, but all we have is each other to protect fellow users.
Thanks for all of the feedback.
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have you had experience with eds-research?? good ones?
I have nolva on the way from there. I have heard nothing but great thing about eds
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A well known national competitor from the bay area had a little misap with clomid; it would mess up his vision pretty bad; some side stayed permanently; he was pretty disapointed to run lab test on liquidaroma and liquidex and find it was more half clomid loaded...
his vision is damaged for life.
There was also a research lab (although who escapes me) that accidently made clen that was dosed at something like 200 or 2000mg per ml. If I'm not mistaken it killed one or two people.
Disclaimer: It was not AG Guys.
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that is scary stuff...i always use AG and never had a problem
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that is scary stuff...i always use AG and never had a problem
No kidding.
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Which one makes the best liquid ECA???
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after reading all this I don't think I will go liquid route anymore
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There was also a research lab (although who escapes me) that accidently made clen that was dosed at something like 200 or 2000mg per ml. If I'm not mistaken it killed one or two people.
Disclaimer: It was not AG Guys.
HOLY SHIT!
no way
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HOLY SHIT!
no way
I believe so. There was a couple warnings on an open source board or two.
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I believe so. There was a couple warnings on an open source board or two.
Yup.
I remember that some guys had taken a few 200mcg doses instead of what they thought was 20mcg and ended up in the hospital as well.
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What exactly happens when you overdose on something like clenbuterol?
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What exactly happens when you overdose on something like clenbuterol?
Heart attack and the likes.
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What site was this?
If guys know of experiences like this or even just poor/incorrect dosing please let us all know. Not to sound gay, but all we have is each other to protect fellow users.
Thanks for all of the feedback.
that was ag-guy unfortunately.
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What exactly happens when you overdose on something like clenbuterol?
http://jmt.pennpress.org/strands/jmt/pdfHandler.pdf;jsessionid=D91ADB0EBE2D59DD72CC94844650E4F4?issue=20070302&file=20070302_056Abst.pdf
http://www.mdpoison.com/publications/toxtidbit_pdf/2007/January%202007%20Toxtidbits.pdf
http://www.jems.com/news_and_articles/tips/alert_clenbuterol_outbreak.html
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http://jmt.pennpress.org/strands/jmt/pdfHandler.pdf;jsessionid=D91ADB0EBE2D59DD72CC94844650E4F4?issue=20070302&file=20070302_056Abst.pdf
http://www.mdpoison.com/publications/toxtidbit_pdf/2007/January%202007%20Toxtidbits.pdf
http://www.jems.com/news_and_articles/tips/alert_clenbuterol_outbreak.html
hahahah you actually took the time to research on this...
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http://jmt.pennpress.org/strands/jmt/pdfHandler.pdf;jsessionid=D91ADB0EBE2D59DD72CC94844650E4F4?issue=20070302&file=20070302_056Abst.pdf
http://www.mdpoison.com/publications/toxtidbit_pdf/2007/January%202007%20Toxtidbits.pdf
http://www.jems.com/news_and_articles/tips/alert_clenbuterol_outbreak.html
Thanks Rimbaud !
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hahahah you actually took the time to research on this...
If you call a two minute google search research...sure.
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Thanks Rimbaud !
No problem.
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What exactly happens when you overdose on something like clenbuterol?
you die
LOL
heart problems
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The overdosed clen from research supply didn't kill anyone, just made a few feel close to death.
AG-Guys has been around awhile and generally people say good things about their dosing, BUT their price is more than double most other competitors and damn near triple others. Not worth it for ancillaries.
eds-research is good to go. Bought some clen powder, converted to helios and lets just say I know for a fact its quality powder. If their using the same powder in their liquid products and tabs, they should all be good for a fraction of the price of Ag-Guys.
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The overdosed clen from research supply didn't kill anyone, just made a few feel close to death.
AG-Guys has been around awhile and generally people say good things about their dosing, BUT their price is more than double most other competitors and damn near triple others. Not worth it for ancillaries.
eds-research is good to go. Bought some clen powder, converted to helios and lets just say I know for a fact its quality powder. If their using the same powder in their liquid products and tabs, they should all be good for a fraction of the price of Ag-Guys.
Agreed! I remember it being RS, because I had just purchased albuterol from them when this went down. The albuterol was dosed really good.
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The overdosed clen from research supply didn't kill anyone, just made a few feel close to death.
AG-Guys has been around awhile and generally people say good things about their dosing, BUT their price is more than double most other competitors and damn near triple others. Not worth it for ancillaries.
eds-research is good to go. Bought some clen powder, converted to helios and lets just say I know for a fact its quality powder. If their using the same powder in their liquid products and tabs, they should all be good for a fraction of the price of Ag-Guys.
I wasn't talking about them.