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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: theworm on September 19, 2008, 04:21:43 PM
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I thought they went bunk,,,but still seeing a lot of their products,,,,whats the deal? i am quessing most BD tbol is bunk?
Div, any comments?
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IP took over their label and has been putting out fakes of it. I wouldn't anything with a BD label at this point. The original stuff was good but pretty much most of the stuff around now is the IP fakes.
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BD is dead! One of the owners is literally dead and the other is in jail! Stay away, stay far away.
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I thought they went bunk,,,but still seeing a lot of their products,,,,whats the deal? i am quessing most BD tbol is bunk?
Div, any comments?
I used some Andropen 275 a few months ago 02/2008 it was made...was total crap heavily underdosed...
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I thought they went bunk,,,but still seeing a lot of their products,,,,whats the deal? i am quessing most BD tbol is bunk?
Div, any comments?
I think some common sense is in order.
Look for HG pharmaceutical products........
If you buy UG you're taking a chance.
It doesn't matter if BD is still on the market, that doesn't mean you need to buy it.
DIV
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Emmortal, was it china IP or International pharmaceuticals?
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Emmortal, was it china IP or International pharmaceuticals?
Chinaman
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Chinaman
Shuckz, would have preferred to hear it was the latter.
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im using a BD or know off and great results so far. i was using stealth before and finally got my head out of my ass and using hopefully a btter quality gear. Painless as can be and i have gained weight off the deca aleady after acouple wks. i guess there is still some, who really knows
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Weather its HG or a UG, it all depends on the source. I have used BD products before and with excellent results. At the same time I have heard people that have used them with little to no results. There have been lots of really good UG products that have come out in the past (Finaplex Gold for example). Have a good, reliable buying source and be careful.
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I used some Andropen 275 a few months ago 02/2008 it was made...was total crap heavily underdosed...
That as way after the original BD was done. No wonder it was junk.
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Junk.
Stay far away.
8)
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I used some Andropen 275 a few months ago 02/2008 it was made...was total crap heavily underdosed...
anything with an expiration past xy/06 is FOR SURE fake
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anything with an expiration past xy/06 is FOR SURE fake
Not so actually.
Fake in a sense the original BD is not the one pumping out the line.
I thought they went bunk,,,but still seeing a lot of their products,,,,whats the deal? i am quessing most BD tbol is bunk?
Div, any comments?
IP (International Pharmaceuticals) has been pumping out the infamous brands of denkall an QV names like wild fire and people are buying them up, IP stated using the brand names shortly after their closings. both the qv and denkall product coming out of Asia is doing so well that IP has stopped production of their amps and even their own label 10ml multi dose vials.
now the problem is that lab reports show very erratic dosing from vial to vial. some test out to whats on the label, no metals found, and is actual said product. then u have other vials that failed miserably testing positive for metals, no active steroid, or underdosed.
it is believed that one or more said person is trying to cash in on both BD and QV. people who was able to trace their said product back to IP was found to be accurately dosed, and safe to a degree (still a ug lab). the ones that failed were unknowns and could be traced back to IP.
Unless the stuff u can get could be traced back somehow to IP or u have an excellent source i wouldn't trust it. And IP is still an underground lab so its still a risk.
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Well fuck, now im confused. Is it International Pharmaceuticals that is producing QV + BD, or is it the china-man IP? It makes quite a difference..
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anything with an expiration past xy/06 is FOR SURE fake
it was not fake.................... ........................ .........
but I was pinning 4cc a week and was not getting the results
from 1100mg a week...so I canned it all.
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Well fuck, now im confused. Is it International Pharmaceuticals that is producing QV + BD, or is it the china-man IP? It makes quite a difference..
I had it on good authority it was Chinaman that bought up QV and BD labels, but hell I've been wrong before.
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Yeah, I think your right. Maybe Diehards doesnt realise there is a difference between the two.
How does one 'buy the rights' to a UG lab anyway? :D
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I also think its the China man. The other I.P. seems to have a pretty good reputation. I have never personally seen his products, and have been led to believe he does not ship to the US. So that alone would rule him out as the maker of QV and BD.
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just a shit stay away here in Greece are ??? :'(
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I also think its the China man. The other I.P. seems to have a pretty good reputation. I have never personally seen his products, and have been led to believe he does not ship to the US. So that alone would rule him out as the maker of QV and BD.
The IP we are talking about is the Chinaman.
The "other" IP is in Europe and doesn't deal with the U.S., he's strictly a "niche" source and his products are good.
DIV
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anything with an expiration past xy/06 is FOR SURE fake
No if I remember correctly there was BD shit that expired in 2010 or something (that was still made by BD).
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Just started some BD dbol yesterday. Its legit.. I have got those feel good tingles and the pump I had to today was insane. I was already pumped as fuck after one warm up set.
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Always happy with bd but all was from 2006.
bea
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The IP we are talking about is the Chinaman.
The "other" IP is in Europe and doesn't deal with the U.S., he's strictly a "niche" source and his products are good.
DIV
yup they are both the same. at first i thought the same.
i know this thread is prob dead but..........
Update. IP has now discontinued the who Amp line coming out of china. 10ml vials are still being produced for the time being but may be gone soon too. IP QV and IP BD is the staple of their line now. I have gotten some really great feed back for both products. many are holding it in high regard right now. higher than the mex counterpart.
Nebody who uses IP be careful buying Amps. only residual stock it left.
Be safe keep lifting
Mike
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yup they are both the same. at first i thought the same.
i know this thread is prob dead but..........
Update. IP has now discontinued the who Amp line coming out of china. 10ml vials are still being produced for the time being but may be gone soon too. IP QV and IP BD is the staple of their line now. I have gotten some really great feed back for both products. many are holding it in high regard right now. higher than the mex counterpart.
Nebody who uses IP be careful buying Amps. only residual stock it left.
If you're comparing IP to Mexican vet anabolics, what is the point exactly.
Both are below pharmaceutical quality.
DIV
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Both are garbage and wont enter my system! Beware of this garbage!
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I think to Sum up all the mods opinions and everybody elses 2 cents is this: STay away from BD Gear completly. THere is no reason to run the risk of this company which is already known to have taken a fall!! Second, Obtain HG gear, that way you know what you are putting in your body exactly, this isnt a suicide drink at 711, its your health!!! Third be smart who you deal with, stay away from websites. This isnt a drive through or one stop shop. You run the risk of going to jail for importatin of controlled substances into the Unites States which is a Federal Offense!! careful friends.