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Title: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: RagingBull on September 20, 2008, 10:32:01 PM
Hot on the heels of his explanation for why he no longer wears a flag pin, presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama was forced to explain why he doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem is played.
 
 According to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171, During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the Right hand over the heart.
 
 'As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived as taking sides,' Obama said. 'There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song 'I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing.' If that were our anthem, then I might salute it.'
 
 WHAAAAAAAT!!!!!!!!!! Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this could possibly be our next president. I, for once, am speechless.
 He better take sides..........if he is not on the side of AMERICA he MUST NOT EVEN BE CONSIDERED for the office he is seeking. We do not need a man in office that will not salute the flag. The world knows how to sing, what they need to know is that the USA will defend what that flag stands for.
 
 
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: donrhummy on September 20, 2008, 10:41:41 PM
This is FALSE:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/stance.asp
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: TacoBell on September 20, 2008, 10:48:11 PM
Funny that it says its false, yet doesnt bother to explain why Obama doesnt wear the pin, nor cover his heart.  :(
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on September 20, 2008, 10:53:37 PM
Funny that it says its false, yet doesnt bother to explain why Obama doesnt wear the pin, nor cover his heart.  :(
IF OBAMA SAID ITS FALSE ITS FALSE LET IT GO.... ::)
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: the_steevo_uk on September 20, 2008, 11:44:51 PM
Hot on the heels of his explanation for why he no longer wears a flag pin, presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama was forced to explain why he doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem is played.
 
 According to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171, During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the Right hand over the heart.
 
 'As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived as taking sides,' Obama said. 'There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song 'I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing.' If that were our anthem, then I might salute it.'
 
 WHAAAAAAAT!!!!!!!!!! Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this could possibly be our next president. I, for once, am speechless.
 He better take sides..........if he is not on the side of AMERICA he MUST NOT EVEN BE CONSIDERED for the office he is seeking. We do not need a man in office that will not salute the flag. The world knows how to sing, what they need to know is that the USA will defend what that flag stands for.
 
 


I will never understand why americans find this kind of thing so important...if not putting your hand on your heart for the national anthem is more important than healthcare, or border control, or wars against terror, then i truly despair for the US of A
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: Barracuda on September 21, 2008, 02:34:59 AM
Obama haters are out in full force

Why isn't this on the politics board
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: Mars on September 21, 2008, 02:39:43 AM

I will never understand why americans find this kind of thing so important...if not putting your hand on your heart for the national anthem is more important than healthcare, or border control, or wars against terror, then i truly despair for the US of A

exactly.
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: The Luke on September 21, 2008, 04:03:15 AM
If I remember correctly that now infamous photo of Obama with his hands somewhere other than on his chest was taken when Wilberforce's "Amazing Grace" was playing... NOT when the national anthem was being played.

In the words of satirist Bill Maher: "...and there's no requirement to place hand on heart for America's theme song".


Meanwhile, in other news, Bush and Cheney's policies of irresponsible borrowing have pushed the US to the brink of financial collapse and destabilised the dollar.

Just thought you should know...


The Luke
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: TechnoViking on September 21, 2008, 04:04:04 AM
Hot on the heels of his explanation for why he no longer wears a flag pin, presidential candidate Senator Barrack Obama was forced to explain why he doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem is played.
 
 According to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171, During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the Right hand over the heart.
 
 'As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived as taking sides,' Obama said. 'There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song 'I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing.' If that were our anthem, then I might salute it.'
 
 WHAAAAAAAT!!!!!!!!!! Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this could possibly be our next president. I, for once, am speechless.
 He better take sides..........if he is not on the side of AMERICA he MUST NOT EVEN BE CONSIDERED for the office he is seeking. We do not need a man in office that will not salute the flag. The world knows how to sing, what they need to know is that the USA will defend what that flag stands for.
 
 

Bro he is a Muslim...He is all part of the 2012 ethnic cleansing...
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: webcake on September 21, 2008, 04:04:04 AM
Take this shit to the politics board  >:(
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: TechnoViking on September 21, 2008, 04:14:33 AM
We had one off the worst train crashes on american soil in a long time and you could not see anything about it on TV...Where were all these investagators showing us all what happend...

Paris Hilton was going to jail at one time and we had to listen to the TV media tells us all about it for a month...But when a train crashes and kills 20 something people and injures over 100, we really don't hear a peep....Fucking sad...

When this happend, the next day i turned the TV on and couldn't find a thing about it...I said to the girl I live with, Watch these mother fuckers are setting us up for something big...I even told here that  a huge terrorist attack was probably going to happen...I just couldn't believe that they weren't talking about the train crash...

And then it happend, the world banks etc were collapsing...What a fucking joke...They didn't want the media filled with death when they need it filled will banks closing etc...

Bottom line is this shit has been planned along time ago...The media is never your friend and anyone who sits behind the mike needs to be told that we are not falling for you BS...

WE have all be had...How can a train crash and cause so much heartache but basically no one on the TV in america talk about it.l...If that isn't telling, then i don't know what to say....

I guess if you believe anything that is said on TV then you may as well believe that Rhino is a pro even though the world is telling him that he couldn't win a state show...


Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: JimmyThomson on September 21, 2008, 05:07:15 AM

I will never understand why americans find this kind of thing so important...if not putting your hand on your heart for the national anthem is more important than healthcare, or border control, or wars against terror, then i truly despair for the US of A


I have to laugh at the American population who rant on about it being the "Land of the Free" .   No it is actually the land where 0.1% make a fortune and do what they want (including invading other countries to control their oil) and the other 99.9% get brutally controlled with no health care, social housing etc and are forced like Hitler's nazi soldiers to stand with their hand on their heart when a bit of music is played.

WAKE UP BOZOS !!!!   You are all being used and manipulated.  USA is not the land of the free, it is the land of the simple brainwashed folk. Canada, UK, Germany, Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, iceland, Australia, New Zeland, Japan and even now Poland, Czech Republic, Estonia, etc etc are much more free than the USA. And we all have medical care, housing, education etc for all. Not just those who can afford it.

The 99.9% of you all sit there in your trailers and little wooden homes with your mullets and stars and stripes and the rest of the world laughs at you. Meanwhile the 0.1% who control your country get richer and richer and have now nationalised the toxic debts collected by the financial organisations which earned the 0.1% billions of dollars over the past few years. And all the black folk in New Orleans still live in squaller 3 years after the Hurricane.

WAKE UP BOZOS !!!!!!! :D

 



Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: troponin on September 21, 2008, 05:56:43 AM
It's well known that Obama invented cancer too. 
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: ibfasport on September 21, 2008, 06:54:22 AM
USA next President will be Muslim
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: Mars on September 21, 2008, 06:56:23 AM
it must be an honour to have the same name as his excellency, peace be upon him.
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: whateva on September 21, 2008, 07:01:31 AM

I have to laugh at the American population who rant on about it being the "Land of the Free" .   No it is actually the land where 0.1% make a fortune and do what they want (including invading other countries to control their oil) and the other 99.9% get brutally controlled with no health care, social housing etc and are forced like Hitler's nazi soldiers to stand with their hand on their heart when a bit of music is played.

WAKE UP BOZOS !!!!   You are all being used and manipulated.  USA is not the land of the free, it is the land of the simple brainwashed folk. Canada, UK, Germany, Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, iceland, Australia, New Zeland, Japan and even now Poland, Czech Republic, Estonia, etc etc are much more free than the USA. And we all have medical care, housing, education etc for all. Not just those who can afford it.

The 99.9% of you all sit there in your trailers and little wooden homes with your mullets and stars and stripes and the rest of the world laughs at you. Meanwhile the 0.1% who control your country get richer and richer and have now nationalised the toxic debts collected by the financial organisations which earned the 0.1% billions of dollars over the past few years. And all the black folk in New Orleans still live in squaller 3 years after the Hurricane.

WAKE UP BOZOS !!!!!!! :D

 





Haahaa, spot on
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: boonstack on September 21, 2008, 07:03:34 AM

I have to laugh at the American population who rant on about it being the "Land of the Free" .   No it is actually the land where 0.1% make a fortune and do what they want (including invading other countries to control their oil) and the other 99.9% get brutally controlled with no health care, social housing etc and are forced like Hitler's nazi soldiers to stand with their hand on their heart when a bit of music is played.

WAKE UP BOZOS !!!!   You are all being used and manipulated.  USA is not the land of the free, it is the land of the simple brainwashed folk. Canada, UK, Germany, Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, iceland, Australia, New Zeland, Japan and even now Poland, Czech Republic, Estonia, etc etc are much more free than the USA. And we all have medical care, housing, education etc for all. Not just those who can afford it.

The 99.9% of you all sit there in your trailers and little wooden homes with your mullets and stars and stripes and the rest of the world laughs at you. Meanwhile the 0.1% who control your country get richer and richer and have now nationalised the toxic debts collected by the financial organisations which earned the 0.1% billions of dollars over the past few years. And all the black folk in New Orleans still live in squaller 3 years after the Hurricane.


im 21, go to college, work a part time job, earning less than 30000 a year. But, i can eat anything i want. have sex with any girl i want. listen to any music i want. watch any movie i want. drive any car i want.

yea, america sux ::)

and i have NEVER met any of these "statistics" that just have it "soooooooo bad". Everyone i know has absolute freedom to do anything they want, when they want, how they want. i like when foreigners get all their information about america, yet have no idea what the reality is  :D



Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: troponin on September 21, 2008, 08:19:30 AM
im 21, go to college, work a part time job, earning less than 30000 a year. But, i can eat anything i want. have sex with any girl i want. listen to any music i want. watch any movie i want. drive any car i want.

yea, america sux ::)

and i have NEVER met any of these "statistics" that just have it "soooooooo bad". Everyone i know has absolute freedom to do anything they want, when they want, how they want. i like when foreigners get all their information about america, yet have no idea what the reality is  :D


If you're willing to put in the work, you can succeed in America.  Some will always have it easier, some will have it harder, but there are very little restrictions that can't be overcome by hard work in America.


If you're reasonably intelligent and willing to work your ass off, you can become a doctor, lawyer, etc. 
If you're not reasonably intelligent but still willing to work your ass off, you can start a business or go into politics.   

The only problem is most people don't like to work their ass off.  They don't want to work their way through college.  They don't want to bust their ass.
They want to be over-paid in a skill-less job and own a million dollar home, drive a bimmer, and have a fishing boat at their summer cottage.

They also want to complain that they have it so "hard" and bitch about the economic situation that they created. 



Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: johnnytosh on September 21, 2008, 08:27:03 AM
It says right in the article that it was a MADE UP STORY!!!
OBAMA NEVER said that !!

I knew as soon as I read it that he NEVER said that.

"I'd like to teach the world to sing" ??

Give me a break !!

How stupid can you be?
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: The Coach on September 21, 2008, 08:27:14 AM

I have to laugh at the American population who rant on about it being the "Land of the Free" .   No it is actually the land where 0.1% make a fortune and do what they want (including invading other countries to control their oil) and the other 99.9% get brutally controlled with no health care, social housing etc and are forced like Hitler's nazi soldiers to stand with their hand on their heart when a bit of music is played.

WAKE UP BOZOS !!!!   You are all being used and manipulated.  USA is not the land of the free, it is the land of the simple brainwashed folk. Canada, UK, Germany, Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, iceland, Australia, New Zeland, Japan and even now Poland, Czech Republic, Estonia, etc etc are much more free than the USA. And we all have medical care, housing, education etc for all. Not just those who can afford it.

The 99.9% of you all sit there in your trailers and little wooden homes with your mullets and stars and stripes and the rest of the world laughs at you. Meanwhile the 0.1% who control your country get richer and richer and have now nationalised the toxic debts collected by the financial organisations which earned the 0.1% billions of dollars over the past few years. And all the black folk in New Orleans still live in squaller 3 years after the Hurricane.

WAKE UP BOZOS !!!!!!! :D

 





That was as retarted as your "Bill Pearl is gay postings"
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: Tre on September 21, 2008, 08:31:13 AM

What should we do about George "anti-American" Bush? 

He's the guy in the office right now...he needs to be dealt with.  Give us your plan.
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: Mr. Cortisol on September 21, 2008, 08:31:37 AM
Mccain is old, Palin is underqualified.  Obama 08.
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: The Coach on September 21, 2008, 08:31:50 AM

I have to laugh at the American population who rant on about it being the "Land of the Free" .   No it is actually the land where 0.1% make a fortune and do what they want (including invading other countries to control their oil) and the other 99.9% get brutally controlled with no health care, social housing etc and are forced like Hitler's nazi soldiers to stand with their hand on their heart when a bit of music is played.

WAKE UP BOZOS !!!!   You are all being used and manipulated.  USA is not the land of the free, it is the land of the simple brainwashed folk. Canada, UK, Germany, Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, iceland, Australia, New Zeland, Japan and even now Poland, Czech Republic, Estonia, etc etc are much more free than the USA. And we all have medical care, housing, education etc for all. Not just those who can afford it.

The 99.9% of you all sit there in your trailers and little wooden homes with your mullets and stars and stripes and the rest of the world laughs at you. Meanwhile the 0.1% who control your country get richer and richer and have now nationalised the toxic debts collected by the financial organisations which earned the 0.1% billions of dollars over the past few years. And all the black folk in New Orleans still live in squaller 3 years after the Hurricane.

WAKE UP BOZOS !!!!!!! :D

 





Translation = "I'm too fucking lazy to get off my fat ass and make a life for myself and my family so I'll depend on the government to enable me to not have any incentive to work and take the handouts"!
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: QuakerOats on September 21, 2008, 08:41:58 AM
What should we do about George "anti-American" Bush? 

He's the guy in the office right now...he needs to be dealt with.  Give us your plan.
if it was anyone else he'd have been impeached by now.
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: RagingBull on September 21, 2008, 08:43:14 AM
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: Mars on September 21, 2008, 08:51:14 AM
When will bush the war criminal be called to appear for the the hague tribunal?
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: JimmyThomson on September 21, 2008, 08:58:33 AM
Translation = "I'm too fucking lazy to get off my fat ass and make a life for myself and my family so I'll depend on the government to enable me to not have any incentive to work and take the handouts"!


Coach I am a retired CA (or CPA equivalent in USA). I am a fairly wealthy old girl. My point is that the dumb majority of americans are brainwashed into thinking there is something special about the USA whereas there are plenty of free countries which it is possible to be just as free and just as successfull however they also look after their old and give their poor a chance to get educated and live regardless of health insurance.
I don't go on about Scotland being the best country in the world and I don't see why the USA does except because it is brainwashed.
 
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: QuakerOats on September 21, 2008, 09:01:27 AM
you better watch out Coach, "Jimmy Thomson" is the guy who claimed to grab Dorian Yates balls wityh a pair of pliers while he was bench pressing and threatened him, aren't you worried? ::)
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: boonstack on September 21, 2008, 09:03:27 AM
Coach I am a retired CA (or CPA equivalent in USA). I am a fairly wealthy old ####. My point is that the dumb majority of americans are brainwashed into thinking there is something special about the USA whereas there are plenty of free countries which it is possible to be just as free and just as successfull however they also look after their old and give their poor a chance to get educated and live regardless of health insurance.I don't go on about Scotland being the best country in the world and I don't see why the USA does except because it is brainwashed. 
gee, a CPA huh? thats about up there with a MBA from Wharton.  ::)
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: JimmyThomson on September 21, 2008, 09:04:00 AM
im 21, go to college, work a part time job, earning less than 30000 a year. But, i can eat anything i want. have sex with any girl i want. listen to any music i want. watch any movie i want. drive any car i want.

yea, america sux ::)

and i have NEVER met any of these "statistics" that just have it "soooooooo bad". Everyone i know has absolute freedom to do anything they want, when they want, how they want. i like when foreigners get all their information about america, yet have no idea what the reality is  :D






Boonstack seriously , it is great to be free to be able to do all the things you mention but EVERY civilised country in the world enjoys the same freedom and gives more opportunity  to people born into poorer backgrounds.   Don't you think ALL European countries and Canada, Australia etc have same freedomes and opportunities?

Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: Lord Humungous on September 21, 2008, 09:05:47 AM
Mccain is old, Palin is underqualified.  Obama 08.
Im not big into politics by any means, but if Palin is underqualified where does that leave Obama?
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: Mars on September 21, 2008, 09:09:06 AM
everyone can see obama is a whole lot smarter than the pig palin.
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: The Coach on September 21, 2008, 09:14:39 AM
Im not big into politics by any means, but if Palin is underqualified where does that leave Obama?

Obama is a good communicator.......er, I mean teleprompter reader and he and his people got alot of the American public to buy into his sales pitch with his "change" crap. Liberals love this shit. They want "change" for the matter of just seeing someone else in the white house just as long as it's a dem. Obama's experiance, no matter how much they want to deny it, doesn't even come close to Palin's and they damn well know it. They can't get her on anything else so in typical lib fashion...they attack her, they get their kids to attack her, they create false rumors, etc,etc,etc. One smart liberal call this the biggest smear campaign she have EVER seen....and this was coming from a liberal.
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: The Coach on September 21, 2008, 09:16:40 AM
everyone can see obama is a whole lot smarter than the pig palin.

What I see is that Obama can't hold a conversation without a teleprompter and his people telling him what to say. No, I don't see him smater than Palin. Beisides, your not american so your opinion doesn't count.
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: The Coach on September 21, 2008, 09:18:26 AM
The Ryder Cup is on now........gotta go :D
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: TacoBell on September 21, 2008, 09:20:50 AM

I have to laugh at the American population who rant on about it being the "Land of the Free" .   No it is actually the land where 0.1% make a fortune and do what they want (including invading other countries to control their oil) and the other 99.9% get brutally controlled with no health care, social housing etc and are forced like Hitler's nazi soldiers to stand with their hand on their heart when a bit of music is played.

WAKE UP BOZOS !!!!   You are all being used and manipulated.  USA is not the land of the free, it is the land of the simple brainwashed folk. Canada, UK, Germany, Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, iceland, Australia, New Zeland, Japan and even now Poland, Czech Republic, Estonia, etc etc are much more free than the USA. And we all have medical care, housing, education etc for all. Not just those who can afford it.

The 99.9% of you all sit there in your trailers and little wooden homes with your mullets and stars and stripes and the rest of the world laughs at you. Meanwhile the 0.1% who control your country get richer and richer and have now nationalised the toxic debts collected by the financial organisations which earned the 0.1% billions of dollars over the past few years. And all the black folk in New Orleans still live in squaller 3 years after the Hurricane.

WAKE UP BOZOS !!!!!!! :D

 






While I agree that America is not 'free' you clearly miss the point of what 'free' means.
It is not the governments job to provide health care, housing etc., nor should it be.
Thats called communism/socialism.
Since you think free health care in those countries you listed is so great, than explain to me why the people in those countries still come here for their health care, if they can afford it.
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: CQ on September 21, 2008, 10:02:20 AM

I have to laugh at the American population who rant on about it being the "Land of the Free" .   No it is actually the land where 0.1% make a fortune and do what they want (including invading other countries to control their oil) and the other 99.9% get brutally controlled with no health care, social housing etc and are forced like Hitler's nazi soldiers to stand with their hand on their heart when a bit of music is played.

WAKE UP BOZOS !!!!   You are all being used and manipulated.  USA is not the land of the free, it is the land of the simple brainwashed folk. Canada, UK, Germany, Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, iceland, Australia, New Zeland, Japan and even now Poland, Czech Republic, Estonia, etc etc are much more free than the USA. And we all have medical care, housing, education etc for all. Not just those who can afford it.

The 99.9% of you all sit there in your trailers and little wooden homes with your mullets and stars and stripes and the rest of the world laughs at you. Meanwhile the 0.1% who control your country get richer and richer and have now nationalised the toxic debts collected by the financial organisations which earned the 0.1% billions of dollars over the past few years. And all the black folk in New Orleans still live in squaller 3 years after the Hurricane.

WAKE UP BOZOS !!!!!!! :D

 





Don't agree with all per se but interesting points.

I, and many others, what this big hubba made about being "free" is - like it some unique concept only in one nation. Most nations in the world are democratic, it's nothing unique. You would think the whole world lives under gestapo control the way some talk. Being "free" is the norm for well over a hundred nations.

I always find it interesting that some people here have called my nation socialist - as we get free healthcare and college...even though we pay no income tax.
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: boonstack on September 21, 2008, 10:25:57 AM
99% of us sit on our trailers? didnt u say u were a CPA? Your figures are all off.

Dude i live in ALABAMA - the omst white trash place on Earth - and i myself do not know ONE person that lives in a trailer. In fact, I can name four people that are family friends that have developed water front property, and are now paying six figures in income tax off the profit they made from that. The only people complaining are the ones that are "victims" of society and have it so bad. Every 1 poor person u name, I can name 5 more that came from nothing and have plenty. Land of oppurtunity remember dipshit?
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: JimmyThomson on September 21, 2008, 01:16:34 PM
gee, a CPA huh? thats about up there with a MBA from Wharton.  ::)

Well I qualified as a CA in 1958. The average earnings in the UK of a partner in one of the big 4 CA firms for last year was $1.4 million. But of course you earn much more than that  ::)  http://accountancymatters.accountancyage.com/2007/01/
Most of you are being taken for a ride. The ruling 0.1% (which has been in place since 1776 and was mostly selected by British Masons) controls your minds like you wouldn't believe. 75% of people in Scotland have assets of more than $400,000 by the time they reach 65 years old. And full medical care. And pensions of at least $45,000. And free prescriptions. When I visit the USA I cannot believe how many old folk still work. People in other parts of the world don't work much past 60 but at Disney there are hundreds of old girls even older than me working because they can't afford to retire. I myself am not exactly rich but have a house valued at over $1 million, drive 2 mercedes, have a pension of $90,000 per year ($15,000 from the state) and make $1200 per day 4 days per month as a non executive director of 4 companies.


I will state once again (and type it slowly for you), it is easy to become rich in any country in the world (especially Russia and Nigeria as long as you are one of the elite corrupt few). USA is nothing special in that regard. Difference is that the majority are not supported and if you are born poor you probably will not be able to get an education (assuming you don't die at birth due to having no medicare). The rest of the civilised world have social care to prevent death of the poor and actually help poor students make something of themselves. America is the land of the haves and have nots. Look at the poor black people of New Orleans who are living worse than if they had remained slaves in Africa. And what about Squadfather living like trash in that Trailer and being so ashamed of his exposure he had to change his name to Quakeroats. You should all be ashamed.







Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: boonstack on September 21, 2008, 01:32:52 PM
Jimmy, what I found so monumentally discouraging about the "genuine" nature of your posts, is you try so hard to point out about the faults and negative aspects of America. (I'm not isolating any specific factor necessarily), but you utterly disregard all the GREAT qualities and people that HAVE made it here. It's as if you are just sitting at your keyboard typing random statistics... % % % blah blah blah. You literally said 99.9% of Americans have horrible lives. what the fuck?

Yea, "iceland" is really the talk of the town and hot spot huh ::)

You basically saying how poor people "dont have a chance" over here and have better oppurtunity elsewhere. If a person is truly THAT LACKING in ability to pursue further education and/or career progression, do you honestly think they will have the capability to move to ANOTHER fucking country and it will be like night and day as far as their abilitiy to benefit would be?

So, Johnny is down in the dumps and the "man" is out to get him over here in america, but no worries... just move to sweden and you will be rakin in the dough$$$.. oh brother
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: JimmyThomson on September 21, 2008, 01:41:46 PM
Boonstack, I love the USA and spend at least 2-4 weeks per year there. I lived in California for a long time in the 80's. It's just that there are many other great countries in the world and we don't preach about our countries being the greatest and the land of the free. Your patriotism is admirable however and we could do with more of it in the UK. :)

 
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: The Coach on September 21, 2008, 01:43:17 PM
Well I qualified as a CA in 1958. The average earnings in the UK of a partner in one of the big 4 CA firms for last year was $1.4 million. But of course you earn much more than that  ::)  http://accountancymatters.accountancyage.com/2007/01/
Most of you are being taken for a ride. The ruling 0.1% (which has been in place since 1776 and was mostly selected by British Masons) controls your minds like you wouldn't believe. 75% of people in Scotland have assets of more than $400,000 by the time they reach 65 years old. And full medical care. And pensions of at least $45,000. And free prescriptions. When I visit the USA I cannot believe how many old folk still work. People in other parts of the world don't work much past 60 but at Disney there are hundreds of old girls even older than me working because they can't afford to retire. I myself am not exactly rich but have a house valued at over $1 million, drive 2 mercedes, have a pension of $90,000 per year ($15,000 from the state) and make $1200 per day 4 days per month as a non executive director of 4 companies.


I will state once again (and type it slowly for you), it is easy to become rich in any country in the world (especially Russia and Nigeria as long as you are one of the elite corrupt few). USA is nothing special in that regard. Difference is that the majority are not supported and if you are born poor you probably will not be able to get an education (assuming you don't die at birth due to having no medicare). The rest of the civilised world have social care to prevent death of the poor and actually help poor students make something of themselves. America is the land of the haves and have nots. Look at the poor black people of New Orleans who are living worse than if they had remained slaves in Africa. And what about Squadfather living like trash in that Trailer and being so ashamed of his exposure he had to change his name to Quakeroats. You should all be ashamed.









And how much of a % do you pay in taxes? 50%?
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: JimmyThomson on September 21, 2008, 01:49:40 PM
Well Coach we pay 0% for first $10,000, 22% for next $60,000 and then 40% above $70,000.  I have all my income received by my own consultancy company and take my income as a dividend so pay only 10% tax. ;D
 
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: boonstack on September 21, 2008, 01:56:16 PM
Boonstack, I love the USA and spend at least 2-4 weeks per year there. I lived in California for a long time in the 80's. It's just that there are many other great countries in the world and we don't preach about our countries being the greatest and the land of the free. Your patriotism is admirable however and we could do with more of it in the UK. :)

 

Trust me, im as far from a typical "America: love it or leave it" bumper sticker type there is.
i admit:
1-most kids here cant point to England on a map, but we do know all the characters in the Simpsons.
2-Statistics aren't something we like to look at unless it involves the latest batting average
3-a minority controls the majority. That is - Washington ---> then the rest of us peons

50% of engineers/computer scientists here are foreigners. It is indeed GREAT and a huge benefit we have these people to do the "smart thangs" that most white trash here wont do... but we do know business ::)

I myself would encourage more emphasis upon liberal arts, heavy in the math & sciences, and just a more general "wordly" knowledge about things. As i mentioned, i am from alabama unforuntately, and unless u are good at football and agree with Rush Limbaugh, not many good things come from this region. Majority of Americans are made to believe america is the ONLY place to live, as all of our knowledge of foreign countries come from the tv. It is sad, however its true
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: monstercalves on September 21, 2008, 02:08:41 PM
Well Coach we pay 0% for first $10,000, 22% for next $60,000 and then 40% above $70,000.  I have all my income received by my own consultancy company and take my income as a dividend so pay only 10% tax. ;D
 

i thought the higher tax bracket of 40% was for earnings over 60k GBP not roughly 35k GBP
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: JimmyThomson on September 21, 2008, 03:22:34 PM
i thought the higher tax bracket of 40% was for earnings over 60k GBP not roughly 35k GBP

No it's £34,600

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/rates/it.htm
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: SAMSON123 on September 21, 2008, 03:46:14 PM

I have to laugh at the American population who rant on about it being the "Land of the Free" .   No it is actually the land where 0.1% make a fortune and do what they want (including invading other countries to control their oil) and the other 99.9% get brutally controlled with no health care, social housing etc and are forced like Hitler's nazi soldiers to stand with their hand on their heart when a bit of music is played.

WAKE UP BOZOS !!!!   You are all being used and manipulated.  USA is not the land of the free, it is the land of the simple brainwashed folk. Canada, UK, Germany, Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, iceland, Australia, New Zeland, Japan and even now Poland, Czech Republic, Estonia, etc etc are much more free than the USA. And we all have medical care, housing, education etc for all. Not just those who can afford it.

The 99.9% of you all sit there in your trailers and little wooden homes with your mullets and stars and stripes and the rest of the world laughs at you. Meanwhile the 0.1% who control your country get richer and richer and have now nationalised the toxic debts collected by the financial organisations which earned the 0.1% billions of dollars over the past few years. And all the black folk in New Orleans still live in squaller 3 years after the Hurricane.

WAKE UP BOZOS !!!!!!! :D

 





EXCELLENT POST
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: SAMSON123 on September 21, 2008, 03:50:53 PM

I have to laugh at the American population who rant on about it being the "Land of the Free" .   No it is actually the land where 0.1% make a fortune and do what they want (including invading other countries to control their oil) and the other 99.9% get brutally controlled with no health care, social housing etc and are forced like Hitler's nazi soldiers to stand with their hand on their heart when a bit of music is played.

WAKE UP BOZOS !!!!   You are all being used and manipulated.  USA is not the land of the free, it is the land of the simple brainwashed folk. Canada, UK, Germany, Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, iceland, Australia, New Zeland, Japan and even now Poland, Czech Republic, Estonia, etc etc are much more free than the USA. And we all have medical care, housing, education etc for all. Not just those who can afford it.

The 99.9% of you all sit there in your trailers and little wooden homes with your mullets and stars and stripes and the rest of the world laughs at you. Meanwhile the 0.1% who control your country get richer and richer and have now nationalised the toxic debts collected by the financial organisations which earned the 0.1% billions of dollars over the past few years. And all the black folk in New Orleans still live in squaller 3 years after the Hurricane.

WAKE UP BOZOS !!!!!!! :D

 





EXCELLENT POST
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: TPSRPBBW-fan1 on September 21, 2008, 05:35:04 PM
Hot on the heels of his explanation for why he no longer wears a flag pin, presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama was forced to explain why he doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem is played.
 
 According to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171, During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the Right hand over the heart.
 
 'As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived as taking sides,' Obama said. 'There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song 'I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing.' If that were our anthem, then I might salute it.'
 
 WHAAAAAAAT!!!!!!!!!! Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this could possibly be our next president. I, for once, am speechless.
 He better take sides..........if he is not on the side of AMERICA he MUST NOT EVEN BE CONSIDERED for the office he is seeking. We do not need a man in office that will not salute the flag. The world knows how to sing, what they need to know is that the USA will defend what that flag stands for.
 
 

shut the fuck up, he's almost 100% more american than you'll ever be.  try being a black man running for president and then i'll pay heed to your whining.
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: ibfasport on September 23, 2008, 07:08:05 AM
everyone can see obama is a whole lot smarter than the pig palin.

IMO she-pig is Hilary Clinton not Palin
Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: bears on September 24, 2008, 07:53:32 AM

I have to laugh at the American population who rant on about it being the "Land of the Free" .   No it is actually the land where 0.1% make a fortune and do what they want (including invading other countries to control their oil) and the other 99.9% get brutally controlled with no health care, social housing etc and are forced like Hitler's nazi soldiers to stand with their hand on their heart when a bit of music is played.

WAKE UP BOZOS !!!!   You are all being used and manipulated.  USA is not the land of the free, it is the land of the simple brainwashed folk. Canada, UK, Germany, Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, iceland, Australia, New Zeland, Japan and even now Poland, Czech Republic, Estonia, etc etc are much more free than the USA. And we all have medical care, housing, education etc for all. Not just those who can afford it.

The 99.9% of you all sit there in your trailers and little wooden homes with your mullets and stars and stripes and the rest of the world laughs at you. Meanwhile the 0.1% who control your country get richer and richer and have now nationalised the toxic debts collected by the financial organisations which earned the 0.1% billions of dollars over the past few years. And all the black folk in New Orleans still live in squaller 3 years after the Hurricane.

WAKE UP BOZOS !!!!!!! :D



maybe you are right.  maybe youre not.  fact is there arent thousands upon thousands of americans trying to make better lives for themselves in Canada, UK, Germany, Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, iceland, Australia, New Zeland, Japan and even now Poland, Czech Republic, Estonia, etc etc.  fact is quite the opposite.  all those people are trying to make better lives for themselves here in america.  maybe all those people are stupid.  should we not let them in?   

Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: JimmyThomson on September 28, 2008, 05:10:40 AM

maybe you are right.  maybe youre not.  fact is there arent thousands upon thousands of americans trying to make better lives for themselves in Canada, UK, Germany, Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, iceland, Australia, New Zeland, Japan and even now Poland, Czech Republic, Estonia, etc etc.  fact is quite the opposite.  all those people are trying to make better lives for themselves here in america.  maybe all those people are stupid.  should we not let them in?   



The eastern europeans are flooding all parts of the world and for the Polish it is Scotland which is the number 1 destination of choice (100,000 here and we only have a total of 5 million population. How many British or German or Franch or Australian people are trying to get into USA?  I would imagine they are now queing up to leave  ;D
My next door neighbour is from Dallas, Texas and the lady who runs our town charity shop is from Alabama.
How many Scottish people live in your town?   I bet the only one you know is Groundkeeper Willie off the Simpsons  :D







Title: Re: Reminder about Hussein "anti American" Obama
Post by: WillGrant on September 28, 2008, 05:19:55 AM

I have to laugh at the American population who rant on about it being the "Land of the Free" .   No it is actually the land where 0.1% make a fortune and do what they want (including invading other countries to control their oil) and the other 99.9% get brutally controlled with no health care, social housing etc and are forced like Hitler's nazi soldiers to stand with their hand on their heart when a bit of music is played.

WAKE UP BOZOS !!!!   You are all being used and manipulated.  USA is not the land of the free, it is the land of the simple brainwashed folk. Canada, UK, Germany, Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, iceland, Australia, New Zeland, Japan and even now Poland, Czech Republic, Estonia, etc etc are much more free than the USA. And we all have medical care, housing, education etc for all. Not just those who can afford it.

The 99.9% of you all sit there in your trailers and little wooden homes with your mullets and stars and stripes and the rest of the world laughs at you. Meanwhile the 0.1% who control your country get richer and richer and have now nationalised the toxic debts collected by the financial organisations which earned the 0.1% billions of dollars over the past few years. And all the black folk in New Orleans still live in squaller 3 years after the Hurricane.

WAKE UP BOZOS !!!!!!! :D

 




Jimmy telling the truth.. 8)