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Title: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: FreedomFighter on September 23, 2008, 07:16:15 PM
guy's jay killed ron in 2001...

my question is if wolf kill's jay on friday will he became MR.O or will the judges as usual find there way around and fix things on sat?!

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/478302/ronnie_coleman_vs_jay_cutler_01_olympia_pre_judgin/
Title: Re: best of cutler...
Post by: tendonitis on September 23, 2008, 07:19:45 PM
Ahhh yes the fridge's lost "victory" over Ronnie in 01.

Jay looked good from the front but Ronnie made him look like a child in all the back shots.

Jay failed the diuretic test, coming back positive for 5 different drugs.

If Jay ever really did get screwed out of a Sandow he sure as hell got paid back for it last year's debacle.
Title: Re: best of cutler...
Post by: Voice of Doom on September 23, 2008, 07:20:37 PM
Coleman's gut is pathetic.  Perhaps if Jay had won then it would've signaled a real judging change for the decade. :-X
Title: Re: best of cutler...
Post by: England_1 on September 23, 2008, 07:42:59 PM
Ronnie was so fucking owned there. Jay was his best ever with not a single flaw. Watching that just confirms why Jay won the entire prejudging. Even when they are walking away you can see Jay's back is bigger and wider than Ron's. Shawn Ray looking pissed off as usual.
Title: Re: best of cutler...
Post by: ahh.. fk on September 23, 2008, 07:51:27 PM
Ab and thigh was the end of Ronnie. I would give Ronnie back double bicep. Thats the only clear winner for ....EHhhhhhh BUUUuuuudYYYY
Title: Re: best of cutler...
Post by: FreedomFighter on September 23, 2008, 09:09:26 PM
Ahhh yes the fridge's lost "victory" over Ronnie in 01.

Jay looked good from the front but Ronnie made him look like a child in all the back shots.

Jay failed the diuretic test, coming back positive for 5 different drugs.

If Jay ever really did get screwed out of a Sandow he sure as hell got paid back for it last year's debacle.

i agree...! but i still think it was so unfair. he was clear cut winner. although i'm not a fan of his physique
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on September 23, 2008, 10:05:29 PM
Someone, someone with a shred of credibility explain to The Beef ( body part by body part ) how Jay should have beeten Ronnie. Cause The Beef just don't see it.

The Beef
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: gcb on September 23, 2008, 10:11:06 PM
Someone, someone with a shred of credibility explain to The Beef ( body part by body part ) how Jay should have beeten Ronnie. Cause The Beef just don't see it.

The Beef

I have to agree, ronnie was huge - only thing cutler had on him was gut and conditioning.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: Wiggs on September 23, 2008, 10:23:29 PM
I remember being at the show and have seen many videos and pics....

Jay was cleary at his best and his conditioning was better than Ronnie's.  The only pose Jay beat Ronnie in was abs and thigh. Ronnie still better because of the muscle he carried and how he carried it.  I think because Jay made so many improvments, it caused mass histeria and people were pissed that he didn't win it, kind of like Gunther and Wolf.  If you look back now you can see Ronnie is CLEARLY better.  The only thing I disagree on is the judges saying Ronnie came back during the posedown which is an unscored round.  Jay's best can't beat Ronnie's 95%.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: England_1 on September 23, 2008, 10:40:30 PM
I remember being at the show and have seen many videos and pics....

Jay was cleary at his best and his conditioning was better than Ronnie's.  The only pose Jay beat Ronnie in was abs and thigh. Ronnie still better because of the muscle he carried and how he carried it.  I think because Jay made such a huge jump people were pissed that he didn't win it, kind of like Gunther and Wolf.  Ronnie was still king.  The only thing I disagree on is the judges saying Ronnie came back during the posedown which is an unscored round.  Jay's best can't beat Ronnie's 95%.

Jay won the entire prejudging. And the most important factor in a BB contest is condition, which you already conceded Jay was superior. Jay just flat out looked better, his physique, his tan (color), head to toe complete was his best ever. Ronnie lacked his good condition and normal thigh cuts.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: NeoSeminole on September 23, 2008, 11:09:20 PM
Jay won the entire prejudging. And the most important factor in a BB contest is condition, which you already conceded Jay was superior. Jay just flat out looked better, his physique, his tan (color), head to toe complete was his best ever. Ronnie lacked his good condition and normal thigh cuts.

why the f*ck are you disagreeing with someone who was actually there?
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: England_1 on September 23, 2008, 11:19:49 PM
why the f*ck are you disagreeing with someone who was actually there?

That's just one person's opinion. You've denied first hand evidence supporting Yates for years now  ;) So STFU and take your own advice.

Jay won the entire prejudging aka he won Mr. Olympia.....Ronnie must have been servicing uncle Joe quite well back stage  :-X
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: affeman on September 23, 2008, 11:24:37 PM
guy's jay killed ron in 2001...

Yeah, he absolutely "KILLED" him.......lol ::)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: England_1 on September 23, 2008, 11:27:06 PM
BB.com: So I guess you just have to live with that until next year. According to the judges, you beat Ronnie in the Muscularity and Symmetry round and he beat you in the posing rounds. So you had the better body, but he posed better? Shouldn't the best body win?



Ronnie winning the posing rounds...LMFAO
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: webcake on September 23, 2008, 11:27:33 PM
Jay looked great, but Ronnie deserved the win.

I don't know why people go on about 2001 so much. Jay looked good, but Ronnie didn't look that bad.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: johnny1 on September 23, 2008, 11:49:25 PM
Yeah, he absolutely "KILLED" him.......lol ::)
Thats quiet rare to see a shot of Jay with ripped glutes, Ronnie looks crazy in that back relaxed shot
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: TechnoViking on September 24, 2008, 12:08:45 AM
Jay should have won based on the fuck up by the judges...As good as Jay looked, Ronnie should have easily won the show...From the back it wasn't even close...But if i were Jay, i would have been upset...I just think during the show, the judges were to impressed by the change Jay made to his body(came in leaner then usual) but in the end, they did right by giving the nod to Ronnie...
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: Veteran_Lifter on September 24, 2008, 12:10:09 AM
guy's jay killed ron in 2001...

Hi Jay.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 24, 2008, 01:07:44 AM
why the f*ck are you disagreeing with someone who was actually there?

lmfao most ironic statement you ever typed.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: FreedomFighter on September 24, 2008, 04:54:57 AM
Yeah, he absolutely "KILLED" him.......lol ::)

cutler was not flexing there. it was clear on the clip- i believe after pre judging cutler was 6 ron 9 for the two rounds...
but that what i call knock out!

 

Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: RC Money on September 24, 2008, 05:19:22 AM
Ronnie looked fine except the gut, he was huge and cut without being a mess of torn parts...there have been far less deserving Mr. O's.
And again look at the video of their back poses together, no contest Ron dominates and he might have been holding some water but his chest, delts and arms where still way more ripped than Jays...quads & abs was another story though but not enough to take the title in IMO and the judges.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: monstercalves on September 24, 2008, 05:35:32 AM
guy's jay killed ron in 2001...

my question is if wolf kill's jay on friday will he became MR.O or will the judges as usual find there way around and fix things on sat?!

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/478302/ronnie_coleman_vs_jay_cutler_01_olympia_pre_judgin/


when was the last time you read a book?
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: gymguy on September 24, 2008, 05:40:03 AM
Not true.  Ronnie's back poses terminated Jay's chances of winning that year.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: monstercalves on September 24, 2008, 05:43:45 AM
Not true.  Ronnie's back poses terminated Jay's chances of winning that year.

yep this should be obvious ..... jays back has never been better...


im sure someone said that ...... bollocks

thats why ronnie won
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: NeoSeminole on September 24, 2008, 06:13:46 AM
That's just one person's opinion. You've denied first hand evidence supporting Yates for years now  So STFU and take your own advice.

oh yeah? Like what? ;)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: NeoSeminole on September 24, 2008, 06:17:15 AM
lmfao most ironic statement you ever typed.

oh hai lost puppy dog. :)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: jaejonna on September 24, 2008, 06:26:13 AM
Jay looked great
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: jaejonna on September 24, 2008, 06:26:58 AM
Orville burke and Kamali were there too ...
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: FreedomFighter on September 24, 2008, 09:25:42 AM
Jay looked great
if jay comes friday night holding the same condition ... it will be over hands down!
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on September 24, 2008, 09:41:21 AM
Ronald won decisively.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: Mars on September 24, 2008, 09:44:08 AM
jay was a little tit compared to big ron, he should have followed some nutrition and training courses from Ron.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: DeketheCreep on September 24, 2008, 09:48:51 AM
Yeah, he absolutely "KILLED" him.......lol ::)
my favorite pic from the contest ;D
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/dekethecreep/jaykickingass.jpg)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: njflex on September 24, 2008, 09:53:04 AM
cutlers legs look sick in that last shot even though u only see half ,ripped and dry.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: Palpatine Q on September 24, 2008, 09:55:02 AM
jay was a little tit compared to big ron, he should have followed some nutrition and training courses from Ron.

Here Here  Big Ronnie Coleman dwarfed that little shit. He should hold a press conference and say " I realize I am a misshapen ball of meat....the only reason I am Mr O is because I hung around long enough until the guy who handed me my ass on a regular basis got old and fell apart. I do not deserve the title and am immediately handing  over all of my Olympia winnings to Dexter Jackson and Dennis Wolf"
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: FreedomFighter on September 24, 2008, 09:56:56 AM
cutlers legs look sick in that last shot even though u only see half ,ripped and dry.

jay was working chris aseto back than... but i am not sure lately what he has been doing?
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: England_1 on September 24, 2008, 09:57:15 AM
CLASSIC LOL. Coleman PWNED.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/dekethecreep/jaykickingass.jpg)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: Mars on September 24, 2008, 10:01:58 AM
its the angle, big ron cant be owned by that little tit.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: Palpatine Q on September 24, 2008, 10:08:45 AM
its the angle, big ron cant be owned by that little tit.

It's Camel Toe Time MARS
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: Wiggs on September 24, 2008, 10:52:14 AM
CLASSIC LOL. Coleman PWNED.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/dekethecreep/jaykickingass.jpg)

a 95-100 percent Ronnie can never be owned.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: njflex on September 24, 2008, 10:56:59 AM
jay was working chris aseto back than... but i am not sure lately what he has been doing?
ACETO is a good trainer he had good build too in early ninties...
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: tendonitis on September 24, 2008, 10:57:21 AM
CLASSIC LOL. Coleman PWNED.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/dekethecreep/jaykickingass.jpg)

nice 16 inch oil filled arms on Jay there
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: Mars on September 24, 2008, 11:00:09 AM
yes jay has no arms, good leggs though.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: Pollux on September 24, 2008, 11:01:35 AM
How did Jay's condition NOT win in '01, but that horrible condition he had last year did?  ::)
Title: How healthy is jay cutler
Post by: boonstack on September 24, 2008, 11:19:41 AM
Any guesses? I would assume being 275 lbs at 5% bodyfat is very healthy.. and also when your head is bigger than a cinder block, that is a symbol of vitality no?
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 24, 2008, 01:30:45 PM
oh hai lost puppy dog. :)

nice attempt at deflecting  ;) when insanely hypocritical statements like that are typed they beg for a response.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: QuakerOats on September 24, 2008, 01:32:26 PM
nice 16 inch oil filled arms on Jay there
or you could mention how Jay is DESTROYING Ronnie on quads in that shot.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: m8 on September 24, 2008, 02:10:15 PM
"should OF" = big fail.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: NeoSeminole on September 24, 2008, 03:00:01 PM
nice attempt at deflecting when insanely hypocritical statements like that are typed they beg for a response.

response saved for future reference. ;)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: Relentless on September 24, 2008, 03:12:20 PM
Typical Jay fans - reminiscing about 2001 while living in 2008.  Yes you idiots, Jay probably should have won that contest.  However, he SHOULD NOT have won the 2004 Arnold or the 2007 Olympia.  He'll probably be off again this year but will win the contest anyway because he shows improvement from last year's Olympia. 
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: Hulkster on September 24, 2008, 03:40:12 PM
ronnie killed Jay from the back.

matched him from the front in most shots.

Ronnie wins fair and square.

Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: m8 on September 24, 2008, 03:43:07 PM
I'm not a Ronnie fan but I thought it was a fair win overall.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 24, 2008, 04:18:05 PM
response saved for future reference. ;)

yeah I thought so , imitation they say is the sincerest form of flattery  ;)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: NeoSeminole on September 24, 2008, 06:51:43 PM
yeah I thought so , imitation they say is the sincerest form of flattery

ha ha ha, sure. I'll let you believe I'm copying you out of envy. ;)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler - should of won in 2001
Post by: SAMSON123 on September 24, 2008, 07:20:59 PM
guy's jay killed ron in 2001...

my question is if wolf kill's jay on friday will he became MR.O or will the judges as usual find there way around and fix things on sat?!

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/478302/ronnie_coleman_vs_jay_cutler_01_olympia_pre_judgin/


IT'S 2008 FF...GET OVER IT.

JC SUCKED THEN AND HAS SUCKED EVER SINCE.... LET'S TALK DEX, HEATH FROM NOW ON...