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Title: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Boost on September 25, 2008, 12:39:18 PM
since Cutler is gettin slammed by everybody, i think i will stand up for him
Best calves in the bizz, thickest back, shredded hamstrings. Wide as a barn door.  :P
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a313/Xamine/Splashes/wolfjay1.jpg)
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Relentless on September 25, 2008, 12:40:47 PM
That pic just proves why Jay has no business being Mr. Olympia.  If that isn't someone being OWNED, what is?
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Boost on September 25, 2008, 12:41:39 PM
Jay's back is much thicker (lower lats are alot better)
From the waist down he smokes wolf
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/1883/357/d/IMG_9296.jpg)
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: boonstack on September 25, 2008, 12:42:15 PM
since Cutler is gettin slammed by everybody, i think i will stand up for him
Best calves in the bizz, thickest back, shredded hamstrings. Wide as a barn door.  :P
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a313/Xamine/Splashes/wolfjay1.jpg)

You make it sounds like he is COMPLETELY DOMINATING Wolf's back. On 1/10 scale - Jay is a 10. Thickness and Width. However, Wolfs is NO LESS than a 8/10. WIDE - THICK - only thing i would see improvement needed on is lower back. Few more years, its his.

Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: QuakerOats on September 25, 2008, 12:42:28 PM
That pic just proves why Jay has no business being Mr. Olympia.  If that isn't someone being OWNED, what is?
hahahahaha, bullshit, jay is destroying Wolf there, thicker wider back, bigger more separated hams, WAYYYYY bigger calves.
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: m8 on September 25, 2008, 12:43:09 PM
Jay's lats are not much wider than his waist.
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Relentless on September 25, 2008, 12:44:19 PM
I love it! The one pose Jay fans post over and over again...Jay hitting his rear-lat spread.  WEAK, WEAK, WEAK.

Do you want me to start posting a litany of other pics of Wolf V Jay?  Are you sure you want to open Pandora's box?
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Boost on September 25, 2008, 12:46:07 PM
One pose where even Chad nicholls agrees Wolf will be dominated
(http://www.mr-olympia.eu/callouts/img/lide/24/4.jpg)
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Relentless on September 25, 2008, 12:47:09 PM
hahahahaha, bullshit, jay is destroying Wolf there, thicker wider back, bigger more separated hams, WAYYYYY bigger calves.

Are you still out there posting pro-Jay?  Come on you thoughtless bastard, wake up!  ANOTHER FAT WHITE JAY FAN!  You guys never cease to amaze.
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: QuakerOats on September 25, 2008, 12:49:41 PM
Are you still out there posting pro-Jay?  Come on you thoughtless bastard, wake up!  ANOTHER FAT WHITE JAY FAN!  You guys never cease to amaze.
caps lock meltdown. ;D
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: m8 on September 25, 2008, 12:51:21 PM
One pose where even Chad nicholls agrees Wolf will be dominated
(http://www.mr-olympia.eu/callouts/img/lide/24/4.jpg)

How awful. Rear lat spread is the only pose Jay has over Dennis and even then it's very close.
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Jeffro on September 25, 2008, 12:51:52 PM
Are you still out there posting pro-Jay?  Come on you thoughtless bastard, wake up!  ANOTHER FAT WHITE JAY FAN!  You guys never cease to amaze.
Cutler is a thicker, more complete bodybuilder.  He will win again this year.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: QuakerOats on September 25, 2008, 12:53:13 PM
Cutler is a thicker, more complete bodybuilder.  He will win again this year.

Hope this helps.
hahahahhaa, exactly, this poor guy relentless is gonna be so sad when his hero The Great Backless Wonder Dennis Wolf loses to both Jay and Dexter and possibly Heath. ;D
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Boost on September 25, 2008, 12:53:56 PM
People are forgetting what Cutler looked liked in 06
If he matches this conditioning.....its his....No one is more complete
(http://www.theforestgym.co.uk/Forest_Gym_Newsletter/October_2006/Jay_Cutler_O_2006_AB.jpg)
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: QuakerOats on September 25, 2008, 12:54:50 PM
People are forgetting what Cutler looked liked in 06
If he matches this conditioning.....its his....No one is more complete
(http://www.theforestgym.co.uk/Forest_Gym_Newsletter/October_2006/Jay_Cutler_O_2006_AB.jpg)
Jay destroys ANY version of Wolf in that picture.
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: shootfighter1 on September 25, 2008, 12:54:57 PM
Not a big difference in backs, however, there is a big difference in Hams and Calves.
Wolf wins big on width and V taper, which is important.  Jay wins on Hams & Calves.
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: MAXX on September 25, 2008, 12:55:45 PM
If they both come in 100% then Cutler has the edge. From the back its game over.

Only one that can touch Jay from the back as of now is Victor but he's out.
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Relentless on September 25, 2008, 12:57:54 PM
hahahahhaa, exactly, this poor guy relentless is gonna be so sad when his hero The Great Backless Wonder Dennis Wolf loses to both Jay and Dexter and possibly Heath. ;D

I won't be heartbroken believe me.  Jay is going to win this contest, I've stated that many times before.  The best man seldom wins this contest.  Jay will win his 3rd title barring a complete awakening by the judges.
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Jeffro on September 25, 2008, 12:58:21 PM
People are forgetting what Cutler looked liked in 06
If he matches this conditioning.....its his....No one is more complete
(http://www.theforestgym.co.uk/Forest_Gym_Newsletter/October_2006/Jay_Cutler_O_2006_AB.jpg)
No way in hell can Wolf match the pure mass that Cutler brings to the stage.
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Relentless on September 25, 2008, 01:00:39 PM
Pure mass?  Dude, Jay got OBLITERATED by Wolf last year in the mass department, the conditioning department, and the structural department. 
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: boonstack on September 25, 2008, 01:02:22 PM
the pics speak for themselves. Jays upperbody is watery mess. Thats it. blocky ugliest midsection in game
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: tendonitis on September 25, 2008, 01:04:39 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Jeffro on September 25, 2008, 01:05:27 PM
Pure mass?  Dude, Jay got OBLITERATED by Wolf last year in the mass department, the conditioning department, and the structural department. 
Face it, Wolf has a way to go before he fills out and becomes more complete.  Compared to Cutler, his back is thin, especially his lower back, which is nonexistant. :-\

And let's not even get started on Wolf's legs...
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Relentless on September 25, 2008, 01:10:43 PM
Here you guys go again.  Trying to break bodybuilding down to specific bodyparts...of which no bodybuilder in the history of the world has ever had completely dominant bodyparts.  Everyone has their strengths and weaknesses...of which Jay has quite a few. Care me to list?

1. Muscle imbalances on either side of his body; visible with his quads and arms in particular
2. Hit or miss conditioning.  Reached his all time best condition at the 2001 Mr O....7 YEARS AGO!
3. No vascularity or striations on the upper body
4. No flow between bodyparts
5. Huge Waist; no V-Taper

What's the appeal about this guy other than he's a big blond white guy who fat white guys seem to be obsessed with? 
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Boost on September 25, 2008, 01:12:06 PM
If you take each body part and compare
Back = Jay (thicker)
Quads = Jay (striated, huge, thick)
Hams = Jay
Calves = No contest
Biceps = Jay (better peak)
Triceps = Jay  (better shape)
Forearms = Jay!
Chest = Jay
Shoulders = Jay (rounder, fuller)

Abs = Wolf
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: m8 on September 25, 2008, 01:13:02 PM
If you take each body part and compare
Back = Jay (thicker)
Quads = Jay (striated, huge, thick)
Hams = Jay
Calves = No contest
Biceps = Jay (better peak)
Triceps = Jay  (better shape)
Forearms = Jay!
Chest = Jay
Shoulders = Jay (rounder, fuller)

Abs = Wolf


Hi Jay. Shouldn't you be pumping up backstage?
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Relentless on September 25, 2008, 01:14:52 PM
If you take each body part and compare
Back = Jay (thicker)
Quads = Jay (striated, huge, thick)
Hams = Jay
Calves = No contest
Biceps = Jay (better peak)
Triceps = Jay  (better shape)
Forearms = Jay!
Chest = Jay
Shoulders = Jay (rounder, fuller)

Abs = Wolf


Go back to the toolshed. 
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Boost on September 25, 2008, 01:17:31 PM
Go back to the toolshed. 
Take each bodypart...and tell me how Wolf beats jay.
Wolf's legs are crazily UNbalanced......U cant have 35 inch thighs and 16 inch calves
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Jeffro on September 25, 2008, 01:17:35 PM
If you take each body part and compare
Back = Jay (thicker)
Quads = Jay (striated, huge, thick)
Hams = Jay
Calves = No contest
Biceps = Jay (better peak)
Triceps = Jay  (better shape)
Forearms = Jay!
Chest = Jay
Shoulders = Jay (rounder, fuller)

Abs = Wolf

Exactly, Cutler doesnt have the "pretty abs" but everything else is purely huge, full, and complete.
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: ASJChaotic on September 25, 2008, 01:19:39 PM
right  ::)
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Boost on September 25, 2008, 01:22:38 PM
Wolf's arms are huge but ugly (horrible shape)
Unbalanced Limbs eg (huge quads, tiny calves)
Huge arms (Small forearms)
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Relentless on September 25, 2008, 01:22:43 PM
Take each bodypart...and tell me how Wolf beats jay.
Wolf's legs are crazily UNbalanced......U cant have 35 inch thighs and 16 inch calves

Why don't you respond to my earlier post about where Jay is horribly deficient in a number of different areas?  You respond to those 5 things I posted and I'll then respond to your incorrect assessment about Jay's bodyparts.  By the way, it's ridiculous to post a list of bodyparts where Jay is supposedly better and hardly explain why.  
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Jeffro on September 25, 2008, 01:27:01 PM
right  ::)
Why are you only posting one shot?  Contests arent won by one pose, you have to be the most complete in each pose.  ::)
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Zach Trowbridge on September 25, 2008, 01:29:06 PM
People are forgetting what Cutler looked liked in 06
If he matches this conditioning.....its his....No one is more complete
(http://www.theforestgym.co.uk/Forest_Gym_Newsletter/October_2006/Jay_Cutler_O_2006_AB.jpg)

The 2006 version of Cutler looks fucking crazy.  I had no complaints about him winning then. 




Plus he had better hair in '06 than '07.  Last year he looked like he had just woken up from a nap the entire show.
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Relentless on September 25, 2008, 01:30:05 PM
Why are you only posting one shot?  Contests arent won by one pose, you have to be the most complete in each pose.  ::)

Please inform Jay fans of this; they think contests are won based off rear-lat spreads.
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Boost on September 25, 2008, 01:31:17 PM
Here you guys go again.  Trying to break bodybuilding down to specific bodyparts...of which no bodybuilder in the history of the world has ever had completely dominant bodyparts.  Everyone has their strengths and weaknesses...of which Jay has quite a few. Care me to list?

1. Muscle imbalances on either side of his body; visible with his quads and arms in particular
2. Hit or miss conditioning.  Reached his all time best condition at the 2001 Mr O....7 YEARS AGO!
3. No vascularity or striations on the upper body
4. No flow between bodyparts
5. Huge Waist; no V-Taper

What's the appeal about this guy other than he's a big blond white guy who fat white guys seem to be obsessed with? 
1:Hardly noticeable  :P
2: The ability to get shredded when it matters (Saturday night)
3:Visible shoulder, bicep and Trap vascularity, Chest showing deep striations
(http://blogmuscle.files.wordpress.com/2006/10/jamfor.jpg)
4: A very balanced physique ( NO overpowering bodyparts, no weak points) ( Doesnt have unbalanced limbs like Wolf ( huge quads, no claves, Huge arms, no forearms) Jay is pretty asthetic for the amount of mass he carries
5: Jay has one of the most impressive shoulder to waist ratios in the HISTORY of the IFBB
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/violet_fern/jay_cutler2.jpg)
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Relentless on September 25, 2008, 01:39:30 PM
1:Hardly noticeable  :P
2: The ability to get shredded when it matters (Saturday night)
3:Visible shoulder, bicep and Trap vascularity, Chest showing deep striations
4: A very balanced physique ( NO overpowering bodyparts, no weak points) ( Doesnt have unbalanced limbs like Wolf ( huge quads, no claves, Huge arms, no forearms) Jay is pretty asthetic for the amount of mass he carries
5: Jay has one of the most impressive shoulder to waist ratios in the HISTORY of the IFBB

You just discredited yourself entirely with this post.  I'm sorry that I cannot respond to your anything else you write regarding Jay, as you are not of sufficient intellect to converse with regarding anything relating to bodybuilding.  I don't want to spend the time trying to help you see the light, as you are not capable of comprehending anything meaningful. 
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: QuakerOats on September 25, 2008, 01:40:10 PM
1:Hardly noticeable  :P
2: The ability to get shredded when it matters (Saturday night)
3:Visible shoulder, bicep and Trap vascularity, Chest showing deep striations
(http://blogmuscle.files.wordpress.com/2006/10/jamfor.jpg)
4: A very balanced physique ( NO overpowering bodyparts, no weak points) ( Doesnt have unbalanced limbs like Wolf ( huge quads, no claves, Huge arms, no forearms) Jay is pretty asthetic for the amount of mass he carries
5: Jay has one of the most impressive shoulder to waist ratios in the HISTORY of the IFBB
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/violet_fern/jay_cutler2.jpg)

his width is very evident here, this is one of the widest human beings i've ever seen and he's in a shirt. :o
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Boost on September 25, 2008, 01:41:48 PM
People Slam Jay's waist, but his shoulders are so massively wide that he actually has a great V-taper
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Boost on September 25, 2008, 01:43:50 PM
You just discredited yourself entirely with this post.  I'm sorry that I cannot respond to your anything else you write regarding Jay, as you are not of sufficient intellect to converse with regarding anything relating to bodybuilding.  I don't want to spend the time trying to help you see the light, as you are not capable of comprehending anything meaningful. 
Meltdown,
Case closed
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Big Bro on September 25, 2008, 03:15:52 PM
1:Hardly noticeable  :P
2: The ability to get shredded when it matters (Saturday night)
3:Visible shoulder, bicep and Trap vascularity, Chest showing deep striations
4: A very balanced physique ( NO overpowering bodyparts, no weak points) ( Doesnt have unbalanced limbs like Wolf ( huge quads, no claves, Huge arms, no forearms) Jay is pretty asthetic for the amount of mass he carries
5: Jay has one of the most impressive shoulder to waist ratios in the HISTORY of the IFBB

1. It's very noticeable
2. His ability to get shredded when it matters was great last year.
3. He does not have any vascularity in his arms or shoulders, why would you even say that? There is not really any vascularity on his upperbody.
4. Balance is good, symmetry is bad. His bodyparts are impressive by them selves, but he just looks like crap, nothing flows.
5. Wolf's shoulder to waist ratio is much, much better.

Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Dballn247 on September 25, 2008, 03:18:10 PM
hahahahaha, bullshit, jay is destroying Wolf there, thicker wider back, bigger more separated hams, WAYYYYY bigger calves.

+1
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Relentless on September 25, 2008, 03:19:21 PM
1. It's very noticeable
2. His ability to get shredded when it matters was great last year.
3. He does not have any vascularity in his arms or shoulders, why would you even say that? There is not really any vascularity on his upperbody.
4. Balance is good, symmetry is bad. His bodyparts are impressive by them selves, but he just looks like crap, nothing flows.
5. Wolf's shoulder to waist ratio is much, much better.



Thank you.
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Relentless on September 25, 2008, 03:23:31 PM
Meltdown,
Case closed

Ok, I will come down to your level and play in the gutter with pieces of trash such as yourself.  I just have to ask you one serious question first:

WOULD YOU TAKE IT IN THE BUTT IF JAY WANTED A PIECE?
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: TooPowerful4u on September 25, 2008, 04:04:07 PM
If you take each body part and compare
Back = Jay (thicker)
Quads = Jay (striated, huge, thick)
Hams = Jay
Calves = No contest
Biceps = Jay (better peak)
Triceps = Jay  (better shape)
Forearms = Jay!
Chest = Jay
Shoulders = Jay (rounder, fuller)

Abs = Wolf


See, thats the beauty of the sport.  You can win all the bodyparts you want, its the TOTAL package.  Iv placed well in most of my shows and beaten guys who dominated me on most bodyparts and even outconditioned me, but i was just put together better.  Same thing for Wolf....he  has the X frame, the quad sweep, and is just put together in a good way....itl be close!
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Relentless on September 25, 2008, 04:10:05 PM
See, thats the beauty of the sport.  You can win all the bodyparts you want, its the TOTAL package.  Iv placed well in most of my shows and beaten guys who dominated me on most bodyparts and even outconditioned me, but i was just put together better.  Same thing for Wolf....he  has the X frame, the quad sweep, and is just put together in a good way....itl be close!

That's an excellent synopsis!
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Palpatine Q on September 25, 2008, 05:00:27 PM
See, thats the beauty of the sport.  You can win all the bodyparts you want, its the TOTAL package.  Iv placed well in most of my shows and beaten guys who dominated me on most bodyparts and even outconditioned me, but i was just put together better.  Same thing for Wolf....he  has the X frame, the quad sweep, and is just put together in a good way....itl be close!

Agree 100% with this post.

Wolf is the Superior physical specimen.

Matches cutler 90% on mass and just annihilates him aesthetically
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: liberalismo on September 25, 2008, 05:03:34 PM
I think Jay wins on abs also.
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Palpatine Q on September 26, 2008, 02:34:07 AM
I think Jay wins on abs also.

WOW YOU GUYS MUST BE SMOKING SOME GOOD SHIT

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=236393.0;attach=276442;image)
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: WillGrant on September 26, 2008, 03:07:48 AM
See, thats the beauty of the sport.  You can win all the bodyparts you want, its the TOTAL package.  Iv placed well in most of my shows and beaten guys who dominated me on most bodyparts and even outconditioned me, but i was just put together better.  Same thing for Wolf....he  has the X frame, the quad sweep, and is just put together in a good way....itl be close!
Spot on. 8)
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Nordic Beast on September 26, 2008, 03:17:34 AM
People are forgetting what Cutler looked liked in 06
If he matches this conditioning.....its his....No one is more complete
(http://www.theforestgym.co.uk/Forest_Gym_Newsletter/October_2006/Jay_Cutler_O_2006_AB.jpg)
exactly!!!!

Jay hasnt been conditioned to hte extreme like he has been in the past----06 wasnt even great for him, he needs to get back to his 01 ripped

if he nails his conditioning, than people will be eating their words around here and he'll remind us of why he's the best in the business
ll
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Cromespyder on September 26, 2008, 03:29:08 AM
(http://www.makesweet.com/mixer/v/x2008092648dcb2dcda578861467338_1222424857659_flag_400x300_1_120.gif)
Title: Re: Flying the flag for Cutler...He still owns guys from the back
Post by: Gino30 on September 26, 2008, 07:26:09 AM
team wolf getting owned

bunch of nazi farm boys about to get a serving of realty