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is mccain anti-american now ?
muslim ?
NT
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No one questions his patriotism.
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He drives foreign cars because he loves the USA
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I love the USA but I am not giving up My Tacoma.
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McBush/Palin
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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McCain should have picked Hillary. Its a win win. He gets the presidency, and she knows hes gonna keel over and probably even speeds things up.
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*bump* for a NEO-CON response.
NT
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I love the USA but I am not giving up My Tacoma.
translation: I only love America for all the shit I can buy here and the fact that I can live better than the fools I put out of work.
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translation: I only love America for all the shit I can buy here and the fact that I can live better than the fools I put out of work.
So it's safe to say that you do not own nor have ever owned a foreign made good? You know, because if you did, it would make you quite a hypocrite. :D
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So it's safe to say that you do not own nor have ever owned a foreign made good? You know, because if you did, it would make you quite a hypocrite. :D
not when there was an American option, I opt for the American made product.
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i ask again... "neo-cons, where was mccains Flag Lapel"?
NT
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not when there was an American option, I opt for the American made product.
If you were a true patriot, you would make your own goods when the American made option wasn't available. That, or forgo said good.
Hypocrite.
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i ask again... "neo-cons, where was mccains Flag Lapel"?
NT
Ask the regular conservatives too.
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If you were a true patriot, you would make your own goods when the American made option wasn't available. That, or forgo said good.
Hypocrite.
Yes, that's what Gandhi did about British goods, dropped them and started making his own stuff at home, and encouraged all Indians to do the same.
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If you were a true patriot, you would make your own goods when the American made option wasn't available. That, or forgo said good.
Hypocrite.
lol... You're not very good at this. Go back to your owning games. I'll get right on manufacturing my own products ;D
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Yes, that's what Gandhi did about British goods, dropped them and started making his own stuff at home, and encouraged all Indians to do the same.
yea, if only the average American's needs were only food and cloaths that would be a tad bit easier to pull off.
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Ask the regular conservatives too.
ok, my fellow republicans, where was John McCains Flag Lapel last night?
i believe (as many GOPers do) that it's UNAMERICAN not to wear one.
NT
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He's clearly sending a message to his foreign overlords that he doesn't really represent the interests of the American people.
Seriously though, I've heard McCain quotes recently where he says that Teddy Roosevelt is his favorite president and he sees himself as a modern day TR. I wish this were actually true but I'm convinced that McCain is a pathological liar and it makes it hard to sift through his statements and try to figure find the fragments of truth.
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not when there was an American option, I opt for the American made product.
What is the American product is crap? Do you buy crap because it has a "Made in USA" sticker on it?
What about products owned by foreign companies that are built in the US?
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ok, my fellow republicans, where was John McCains Flag Lapel last night?
i believe (as many GOPers do) that it's UNAMERICAN not to wear one.
NT
It got melted down so it could contribute to part of Palin's overly large and vulgar Flag brooch.
Either that or he was secretly sticking it into his hand in order to hide his tendency towards narcolepsy.
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Men who fought for your right to even question patriotism, don't need a lapel pin.
Men who never fight and wouldn't fight for the safely of his own family (Obama) do have to wear a lapel pin.
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What is the American product is crap? Do you buy crap because it has a "Made in USA" sticker on it?
What about products owned by foreign companies that are built in the US?
terrible logic. If we were not in this mess, there would be brand X in budget, medium and quality. Some of us remember those days ;) Unfair trade as it is now makes it so not even the Budget quality of Brand X made in America can compete against best of the Chinese Crap. If you don't see the bitch, I can't help you. If more of us stayed with Made in America, we wouldn't have gotten here. But since we have so many buttheads who don't care about the jobs in their own communities, we need government to do the right thing and make the shit more fair. See Butthead Y above ;D
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Men who fought for your right to even question patriotism, don't need a lapel pin.
Men who never fight and wouldn't fight for the safely of his own family (Obama) do have to wear a lapel pin.
People fight in different ways. Obama is fighting for his country, and his family, as well as millions of families across America every day! And he is doing it in a way that not just anyone can.
When one builds a house, one must use the right tools for the right job. One would never try to dig a foundation hole with a teaspoon rather than a bull dozer. By the same token, one should not attempt delicate surgery using a hatchet when a scalpel is what is required, as mccain is so apt to do.
There is a reason smart men like Obama fight for their country by seeking higher office.
There is also a reason why some individuals can only best serve their country by being shot at and used as nothing more than cannon fodder. If they survive, they are of great propaganda value for the lobotomized reptilian crowd. If they die... they're easily replaced by the state. The common can easily be cannon fodder.
Men like Obama cannot be easily replaced.
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People fight in different ways. Obama is fighting for his country, and his family, as well as millions of families across America every day! And he is doing it in a way that not just anyone can.
When one builds a house, one must use the right tools for the right job. One would never try to dig a foundation hole with a teaspoon rather than a bull dozer. By the same token, one should not attempt delicate surgery using a hatchet when a scalpel is what is required, as mccain is so apt to do.
There is a reason smart men like Obama fight for their country by seeking higher office.
There is also a reason why some individuals can only best serve their country by being shot at and used as nothing more than cannon fodder. If they survive, they are of great propaganda value for the lobotomized reptilian crowd. If they die... they're easily replaced by the state. The common can easily be cannon fodder.
Men like Obama cannot be easily replaced.
Respectable opinion. Thanks!
My problem with your analogies, while true, is that Obama doesn't appear to me, to be the tool to be used.
Obama, is like a slick-talking salesman who tells people willing to listen how great he is at selling. Problem is he has no history the lends credibility to the the type of job he is talking about.
McCain does.
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terrible logic. If we were not in this mess, there would be brand X in budget, medium and quality. Some of us remember those days ;) Unfair trade as it is now makes it so not even the Budget quality of Brand X made in America can compete against best of the Chinese Crap. If you don't see the bitch, I can't help you. If more of us stayed with Made in America, we wouldn't have gotten here. But since we have so many buttheads who don't care about the jobs in their own communities, we need government to do the right thing and make the shit more fair. See Butthead Y above ;D
It's not flawed logic, Hugo. Just the price of a global economy.
Tell me, the American car or truck you drive. Are you certain that all of it's parts were made in America?
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McCain does.
Mcsame! ;D
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Men who fought for your right to even question patriotism, don't need a lapel pin.
Men who never fight and wouldn't fight for the safely of his own family (Obama) do have to wear a lapel pin.
The man didn't fight, he surrendered to the Vietnamese and sat safely like a coward in his cell for 4 years. He would be a national disgrace if he were Scottish. When I was a soldier and fought in Korea you either arrived home with you uniform and gun or you arrived back in a coffin. We would have cut our own throat before putting our hands up. Thats why Scotland has never been conquered and we now control the UK with our Scottish Prime Minister and Chancellor.
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The man didn't fight, he surrendered to the Vietnamese and sat safely like a coward in his cell for 4 years. He would be a national disgrace if he were Scottish. When I was a soldier and fought in Korea you either arrived home with you uniform and gun or you arrived back in a coffin. We would have cut our own throat before putting our hands up. Thats why Scotland has never been conquered and we now control the UK with our Scottish Prime Minister and Chancellor.
LMAO, Scottish guys like you are nothing more than little pussies with no influence in the world.
Go put your skirt on and dance like a queer!
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McInsane is no war hero; any soldier can be captured.
Also, while in the POW camp, he made a bunch of statements against American policy.
A real hero would have refused, even under threat of imminent death.
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LMAO, Scottish guys like you are nothing more than little pussies with no influence in the world.
Go put your skirt on and dance like a queer!
You're wrong.
The Scots have tremendous influence in the world.
Have you ever heard of the Scottish Enlightenment?
Scots are strongly represented in the U.K. Parliament.
People of Scottish descent strongly influence world politics:
More than 17 US presidents are of Scottish or partly Scottish ancestry.
The entire southern voting block that elected George Bush is comprised of Scottish hillbillies.
The English settlers encouraged Scottish migration to the southern states; they figured that their rugged, savage nature,
would make them a good buffer against encroaching Indians in the west.
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You're wrong.
The Scots have tremendous influence in the world.
Have you ever heard of the Scottish Enlightenment?
Scots are strongly represented in the U.K. Parliament.
People of Scottish descent strongly influence world politics:
More than 17 US presidents are of Scottish or partly Scottish ancestry.
The entire southern voting block that elected George Bush is comprised of Scottish hillbillies.
The English settlers encouraged Scottish migration to the southern states; they figured that their rugged, savage nature,
would make them a good buffer against encroaching Indians in the west.
Thank you James (good Scottish name). It's amazing how many people have no idea how influential Scotland is. They should all read "How the Scots invented the modern world" by Arthur Herman. Royal Bank of Scotland is about to be a main benefactor of the toxic debt underwriting by the US taxpayer. Thanks guys, I have a lot of shares in the Royal Bank of Scotland :D
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Thank you James (good Scottish name). It's amazing how many people have no idea how influential Scotland is. They should all read "How the Scots invented the modern world" by Arthur Herman. Royal Bank of Scotland is about to be a main benefactor of the toxic debt underwriting by the US taxpayer. Thanks guys, I have a lot of shares in the Royal Bank of Scotland :D
That's the problem. They don't read anything.
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1)JOHN SIDNEY MCCAIN IS A TRAITOR
John SIDNEY McCain has made a great deal of his experience as a prisoner of war during the Vietnam War. He claims that because of this, he has learned the skills and has the character necessary to lead the US MILITARY in the WAR ON TERROR against the pig-religion of ISLAM.
However, his accounts of his time in the prison camp do not hold up to even the most cursory of examinations. His conduct inside the prison camp following his capture has widely been described as perverse, shameful, and even TREASONOUS.
It is well known that during John SIDNEY McCain's interrogations, he was given special attention since his father was an admiral in the US NAVY. As a navy pilot, John SIDNEY McCain also had a great knowledge about weapons, radar systems and deployment; information which was highly valuable to the North Vietnamese and their Soviet patrons. Several of SIDNEY McCain's fellow prisoners witness part of an interrogation, where McCain was questioned by Russian speaking officers. After this interrogation, John SIDNEY McCain was removed from the bamboo holding cage with his fellow prisoners and given extra rations of rice and canned yams. We can deduce from this that John SIDNEY McCain gave his captors vital information during this interrogation in order to get this special treatment, and thus put the lives of thousands of AMERICAN servicemen in danger. Hopefully, the extra rice rations were enough to fill not only the hunger in his belly, but also the deep hole in his conscience...
2)JOHN SIDNEY MCCAIN IS ANTI-AMERICAN
During his time in the prison camp, John SIDNEY McCain was subjected to torture in order to get him to sign statements critical of the UNITED STATES and its MILITARY. Experiences such as this were common to many prisoners. What is not common is the fact that John SIDNEY McCain ended up actually signing the statement given to him by his North Vietnamese captors.
His "confession" is rife with statements that are offensive to all AMERICANS. In it, he "apologizes" for the "murder" of civilians (a fact that is patently false...the majority of all civilian deaths in the Vietnam war were committed by the COMMUNISTS, since it is only through wholesale murder that they can enforce their ideology), as well as admitting that he was a tool for AMERICAN imperialism. His signature can be clearly seen at the bottom of the statement, so we can surmise that even if he didn't write all the words, he agrees with them. By doing so, he spit on every man and woman who has ever worn the uniform of the UNITED STATES MILITARY.
Besides the fact that by signing such a statement, he directly gave aid and comfort to the enemy, somebody also needs to tell John SIDNEY McCain that AMERICA is a REPUBLIC, not an EMPIRE. If he cannot tell the difference, then John SIDNEY McCain does not have the character to be President.
3)JOHN SIDNEY MCCAIN IS A HOMOSEXUAL
It is widely known that after a year of captivity by the Vietnamese, John SIDNEY McCain was offered the opportunity to go home in a prisoner exchange. As the son of an admiral, he was a high value prisoner and by staying inside the camp, he weakened the negotiating position of the UNITED STATES.
Though John SIDNEY McCain has stated that he refused to leave the camp because it would not have been fair to men who had been held captive longer than him, the record does not hold up to scrutiny. Since we've already established that McCain had given valuable information to the Vietnamese/Soviets and helped them spread their anti-imperialist/anti-GOD propaganda, why would he suddenly be driven by the welfare of his fellow soldiers?
In all, John McCain was held as a prisoner of war for six years, even though he could have left as soon as the first year. There are many reports that he was constantly bound with ropes and tortured. Why would this be done if he had already given all his information to his captors.
The answer is simple. From John SIDNEY McCain's own accounts of his torture, the acts he was involved in correlate closely to those of SADO MASOCHISM. These are acts that are regularly celebrated by the HOMOSEXUAL/PERVERT community.
Before he was killed in a highly suspicious car accident, one of McCain's fellow prisoners testified on the BIBLE that during his time in the prison camp, John SIDNEY McCain had been a "bottom" (this is a pervert designation for a homosexual who receives sodomy rather than give it). This brave soldier also claimed that McCain frequently tried to dress in a feminine manner, and had sex with other prisoners and sometimes even his captors for extra cigarettes and plantains.
Even after his release, it seems that John SIDNEY McCain continued on with his homosexual acts. Several people have testified under oath that McCain was a constant figure in bars frequented by the homosexual/pervert community in Florida. It is these encounters that are widely known to have led to the end of McCain's first marriage.
4)JOHN SIDNEY MCCAIN IS A MUSLIM
Unfortunately, the infidelities of John SIDNEY McCain do not end there. It is a PROVEN FACT that John SIDNEY McCain fathered a child with a Bangladeshi woman named Dharba Sun Mahmoud. By this time, John SIDNEY McCain had already been elected to the Arizona senate and it is likely he met Ms. Mahmoud on a Senate tour of the region.
Likely, you are wondering how McCain having children through a heterosexual relationship matches up with the information given in the previous chapter on McCain's homosexual past. Many in the homosexual/pervert community often take on HETEROSEXUAL partners in order to pass as an upright straight citizen (thus necessitating the dissemination of tools that churches can use to identify homosexuals within their ranks). McCain could not be open though about an affair in a foreign country. He was likely involved in sex-tourism while abroad as representative of the UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.
Bangladesh is 88% Muslim, and so is Ms. Mahmoud, who remarried another Bangladeshi man after her encounter with John SIDNEY McCain (a man who is incidentally on terrorist watch lists in the United States, the UK and INTERPOL). Nothing more is known of McCain's half-child since it was likely honor-killed in accordance with the Islamic law of Sharia.
However, there is no indication that Ms. Mahmoud was a recent convert to Islam, nor that she was not a Muslim when she had her encounter with John SIDNEY McCain. Sharia is extremely strict about extra-marital sex with someone who is not of Muslim lineage. Since Islam is a POLYGAMIST religion, there is a loophole where a man and a woman can become temporarily married in order to have an affair or liaison. In fact, many middle eastern brothels have a house Imam to facilitate such on the fly marriages that are often annulled as soon as the session is over.
It would be impossible for McCain to have had sex with a Muslim woman unless he converted to Islam and underwent an (albeit brief) marriage to the woman. Once converting to Islam, John SIDNEY McCain would be considered an apostate if he renounced his Islamic conversion, and would have a fatwa (death sentence) placed on his head. In the times John SIDNEY McCain has gone over to Iraq, there has been no serious assassination attempt on him, so we can only assume that John SIDNEY McCain never renounced his Islamic conversion.
So, MY FELLOW AMERICANS. Ask yourself, can we afford to have John SIDNEY McCain as leader of the FREE and CHRISTIAN world if he is actually secretly a Muslim?
Can we afford to have John SIDNEY McCain as president, who as a prisoner of war all but urinated on the sacrifices our men and women in uniform have made to make us safe from TERRORISM?
Can we afford to have John SIDNEY McCain as president if he opposed George W. Bush's tax cuts, which kept our most productive AMERICANS from going bankrupt? Is he secretly a MARXIST who believes in the redistribution of wealth from the productive class to the WELFARE CLASS?
Can we afford to have a HOMOSEXUAL as president of the United States, who will weaken the institution of MARRIAGE in this country and bring GOD'S WRATH upon our blessed nation?
Think this over carefully before you vote this fall. And thank you for reading.
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2008/6/21/4349/73033
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Clowns...thanks for making me laugh.
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The Truth About McCain
In August 1968, a program of severe torture began on McCain.[41] He was subjected to rope bindings and repeated beatings every two hours, at the same time as he was suffering from dysentery.[30][41] Further injuries led to the beginning of a suicide attempt, which was stopped by guards.[30]After four days, McCain made an anti-American propaganda "confession".[30] He has always felt that his statement was dishonorable, but as he would later write, "I had learned what we all learned over there: Every man has his breaking point. I had reached mine." [42][43] His injuries left him permanently incapable of raising his arms above his head.[44] He subsequently received two to three beatings per week because of his continued refusal to sign additional statements.[45]Other American POWs were similarly tortured and maltreated in order to extract "confessions" and propaganda statements,[46] with many enduring even longer and worse treatment.
After four days of this, McCain signed and taped[125] an anti-American propaganda "confession" that said, in part, "I am a black criminal and I have performed the deeds of an air pirate. I almost died, and the Vietnamese people saved my life, thanks to the doctors."[124][92] He used stilted Communist jargon and ungrammatical language to signal that the statement was forced.[106] McCain was haunted then and since with the belief that he had dishonored his country, his family, his comrades and himself by his statement,[126][127] but as he later wrote, "I had learned what we all learned over there: Every man has his breaking point. I had reached mine."[96]
"Many, especially among those who had been captured earlier and imprisoned longer, endured even worse treatment than McCain."[131]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_life_and_military_career_of_John_McCain#Prisoner_of_war
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The Truth About McCain
"Many, especially among those who had been captured earlier and imprisoned longer, endured even worse treatment than McCain."[131]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_life_and_military_career_of_John_McCain#Prisoner_of_war
LMAO, i have tears in my eyes. This really the best you have. It's a rerun can we all get some new Left Wing Propaganda? Please?
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LMAO, i have tears in my eyes. This really the best you have. It's a rerun can we all get some new Left Wing Propaganda? Please?
I'm not left or right wing.
By McInsane's own account, he felt he had "dishonored" his country.
How could someone be so arrogant? How could someone that felt he dishonored the country also feel he is fit to lead it?
As a soldier risking your life, would you feel a high morale, knowing that your commander-in-chief reached his breaking point in four days?
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I'm not left or right wing.
By McInsane's own account, he felt he had "dishonored" his country.
How could someone be so arrogant? How could someone that felt he dishonored the country also feel he is fit to lead it?
As a soldier risking your life, would you feel a high morale, knowing that your commander-in-chief reached his breaking point in four days?
Well lets see....Barack would reach his breaking point in 4 seconds, advantage McCain. You maybe 4 minutes, advantage McCain.
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Well lets see....Barack would reach his breaking point in 4 seconds, advantage McCain. You maybe 4 minutes, advantage McCain.
This is about McInsane.
We know how other people would react; by all accounts, many people held out MUCH longer than he did.
In fact, John McCain was given better treatment than other soldiers once they realised he's an admiral's son.
If I felt I dishonored my country, I couldn't run for the office that commands the military. I just wouldn't feel right about it.
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This is about McCain.
Although, we do know how other people would react; by all accounts, many people held out MUCH longer than he did.
In fact, John McCain was given better treatment than other soldiers once they realised he's an admiral's son.
If I felt I dishonored my country, I couldn't run for the office that commands the military. I just wouldn't feel right about it.
Since you opened the door to hypothetical's, I decided to walk in.
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Since you opened the door to hypothetical's, I decided to walk in.
Do you think that Obama couldn't last 4 days?
His people have been the victims of torture for 400 years; 4 days is nothing.
Obama could definitely deal with torture better than some privileged white admiral's son like McInsane.
It's in his blood.
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Do you think that Obama couldn't last 4 days?
His people have been the victims of torture for 400 years; 4 days is nothing.
Obama could definitely deal with torture better than some privileged white admiral's son like McInsane.
It's in his blood.
His people? WTF are you talking about?
His Father was from Kenya and was not brought to America by slave ships, if that is what you are blabbering about.
Lastly, McCain was a POW for 5 years...
...I am in a battle of wit's and you are unarmed.
Toodles!
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His people? WTF are you talking about?
His Father was from Kenya and was not brought to America by slave ships, if that is what you are blabbering about.
Lastly, McCain was a POW for 5 years...
...I am in a battle of wit's and you are unarmed.
Toodles!
Yes, run away!
It doesn't matter if he's from Kenya; the point is, he's still from the same stock of people that endured 400 years of slavery.
No doubt, the prisoners that endured longer were black.
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Ask yourself, would a real hero like William Wallace have given in after 4 days of torture?
McCain is an embarrassment to the Scottish people.
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Yes, run away!
It doesn't matter if he's from Kenya; the point is, he's still from the same stock of people that endured 400 years of slavery.
No, doubt the prisoners that endured longer were black.
We are all from Africa (as many scientists believe) so your point......isn't one.
On a another note, please stop stereotyping all Black people, and your comments are borderline racist, lol.
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Ask yourself, would a real hero like William Wallace have given in after 4 days of torture?
McCain is an embarrassment to the Scottish people.
William Wallace died because he wasn't strong enough to live. Thanks for the reminder!
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William Wallace died because he wasn't strong enough to live. Thanks for the reminder!
True; he didn't have to live with the feeling that he dishonored his country, like McCain, by his own account.
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True;
Now we are getting somewhere.
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Gotta go.
Obama is 'speaking the word' to the enlightened few on television.
Had fun making you look foolish.
:D
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Gotta go.
Yes you do. Tail between your legs and all.
quitter!
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Mccain is such a hero for going thru that for our country. I don't agree with his fiscal policy, but no denying he loves his country.
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Mccain is such a hero for going thru that for our country. I don't agree with his fiscal policy, but no denying he loves his country.
He did certainly pay a heavy price. There's no denying that, but I don't know if it makes him heroic.
As for his refusing to be released, ...there's been much propaganda value in that, ...but I wonder how much of the Helsinki syndrome played into that. Think about it. Here he is an admiral's son, broken battered, beaten, and having given up secrets to his captors. This is not in dispute, he has admitted such already. It's quite possible he didn't want to go. He was probably so ashamed of himself, and the fate he felt awaited him in the US that he preferred to stay where he was because it had now become home. He did receive special treatment. Who knows?
If and when the records from Vietnam are usealed, it will be interesting to note what they will contain.