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Title: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: Deicide on September 27, 2008, 05:50:16 AM
with their own kind; for some reason this bothers me and over 12 years at my university there was no difference. Why the fuck do they come here if their goal is to improve their English, become better aquainted with Western culture, etc.? No, all they do is hang out with other Japanese and Chinese people and then complain that they speak too much Japanese or Chinese; duh. If I were in China or Japan I would have to bend to their rules and they don't realise how fucking lucky they are here...Westerners have 10x worse in their countries.
I feel like I am living in Asia again in the middle of the UK. Anyway, rant over.
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: garebear on September 27, 2008, 05:52:15 AM
were did you live in Asia?
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: Deicide on September 27, 2008, 06:00:27 AM
were did you live in Asia?

South Korea.

I just compare them to the Brazilian guy in the same house; he's super eager to learn English, makes an effort, tries to talk.

The Asians here are wasting their money. They aren't here to work, they are here to study and learn. They have the time and should use it to learn English.
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: garebear on September 27, 2008, 06:05:59 AM
I'm an American and I'm living in Shenzhen, China right now. That's very southeast mainland China.

It's a lot easier hanging out around other native speakers of English. For one, you just have someone you can casually talk to. For another, if one speaks pretty good Chinese, you always have a translator there with you.

I fall into the same trap as well. I am trying to learn Chinese.

You speak any Korean?
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: Deicide on September 27, 2008, 06:11:09 AM
I'm an American and I'm living in Shenzhen, China right now. That's very southeast mainland China.

It's a lot easier hanging out around other native speakers of English. For one, you just have someone you can casually talk to. For another, if one speaks pretty good Chinese, you always have a translator there with you.

I fall into the same trap as well. I am trying to learn Chinese.

You speak any Korean?

Yeah, I can get by; however I was working a lot and didn't have much time; the difference is; they come here to study...English and they don't even try.
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: Dballn247 on September 27, 2008, 06:12:00 AM
South Korea.

I just compare them to the Brazilian guy in the same house; he's super eager to learn English, makes an effort, tries to talk.

The Asians here are wasting their money. They aren't here to work, they are here to study and learn. They have the time and should use it to learn English.

BS....There are plenty of Brazilians here in FL who don't speak/don't want to learn English.  The number on non-english speaking Mexicans is staggering. 

Sounds like you have developed your own prejudices from your experiences in the east.  If we could somehow channel your rage towards the border jumpers, we could use a guy like you in TX on the borders you sound like you'd be quite the minute man.
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: RocketSwitch625 on September 27, 2008, 06:17:32 AM
with their own kind; for some reason this bothers me and over 12 years at my university there was no difference. Why the fuck do they come here if their goal is to improve their English, become better aquainted with Western culture, etc.? No, all they do is hang out with other Japanese and Chinese people and then complain that they speak too much Japanese or Chinese; duh. If I were in China or Japan I would have to bend to their rules and they don't realise how fucking lucky they are here...Westerners have 10x worse in their countries.
I feel like I am living in Asia again in the middle of the UK. Anyway, rant over.

In the UK Asian = Indian not Chinese and Japanese.
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: Deicide on September 27, 2008, 06:18:40 AM
BS....There are plenty of Brazilians here in FL who don't speak/don't want to learn English.  The number on non-english speaking Mexicans is staggering. 

Sounds like you have developed your own prejudices from your experiences in the east.  If we could somehow channel your rage towards the border jumpers, we could use a guy like you in TX on the borders you sound like you'd be quite the minute man.

Dude, I am talking about people who come to study the language at university level, not border running immigrants who are uneducated and will never go to university.

The Brasilian guy is going to get an MA and wants to improve, really wants to; the Asians just seem to come here to say they have come here with little to prove for it.
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: Deicide on September 27, 2008, 06:19:20 AM
In the UK Asian = Indian not Chinese and Japanese.

On my block, Chinese and Japanese...
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: RocketSwitch625 on September 27, 2008, 06:22:27 AM
On my block, Chinese and Japanese...

Asia = India not China and Japan.
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: Dballn247 on September 27, 2008, 06:23:11 AM
Dude, I am talking about people who come to study the language at university level, not border running immigrants who are uneducated and will never go to university.

The Brasilian guy is going to get an MA and wants to improve, really wants to; the Asians just seem to come here to say they have come here with little to prove for it.

So you don't know any asians who really want to learn English?  I have met several Spanish and Portuguese students who have no will to learn english.  They just want their University of Florida degree so they can take it back to their country. Oh well to each their own.  Do you want to police the world?  Make everyone speak English?  Can you make my neighbor stop leaving his garbage cans on the street for two days after the garbage men have already come?
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: Deicide on September 27, 2008, 06:27:48 AM
So you don't know any asians who really want to learn English?  I have met several Spanish and Portuguese students who have no will to learn english.  They just want their University of Florida degree so they can take it back to their country. Oh well to each their own.  Do you want to police the world?  Make everyone speak English?  Can you make my neighbor stop leaving his garbage cans on the street for two days after the garbage men have already come?

No, I don't, but I have to share the kitchen with her, among other things and she talks shit about us gaijin behind our backs. Sure, you are right; they probably just want a degree from a decent UK uni and head back to their countries so they can brag. If I went to Japan to study Japanese or China tp study Chinese I would put my heart into it.
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: Dballn247 on September 27, 2008, 06:35:36 AM
No, I don't, but I have to share the kitchen with her, among other things and she talks shit about us gaijin behind our backs. Sure, you are right; they probably just want a degree from a decent UK uni and head back to their countries so they can brag. If I went to Japan to study Japanese or China tp study Chinese I would put my heart into it.

Agreed, but you can't hold others to your standards.  If I was still doing that I'd probably have burned a church down by now.  Being in the military and traveling to several countries in my younger days has changed my opinions.

BTW.... Not hating, Your opening rant sounds like me after having to drive through "that" part of town.  Just a little devils advocate.
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: krendan on September 27, 2008, 06:35:52 AM
isn't USA one of the few countrys that don't have an official language? i thought i heard that somewhere......you guys should do something about it  :-\
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: Deicide on September 27, 2008, 06:40:08 AM
Agreed, but you can't hold others to your standards.  If I was still doing that I'd probably have burned a church down by now.  Being in the military and traveling to several countries in my younger days has changed my opinions.

BTW.... Not hating, Your opening rant sounds like me after having to drive through "that" part of town.  Just a little devils advocate.

Word and no worries; constructive criticism and discussion is always welcome...

Totally unrelated; I think I just drank way too much coffee and am having cramps in my chest...I just wanted to force a dump to come out too.... :-\

I think I should avoid coffee in the future for the sake of the ticker...what do you think?
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: Benito Mutumbo on September 27, 2008, 06:42:17 AM
You should also avoid posting on this board because you're a moron.

What a dolt.
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: Deicide on September 27, 2008, 06:43:20 AM
You should also avoid posting on this board because you're a moron.

What a dolt.

He who bears such a name as yours has no business calling anyone a dolt. ::)
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: Dballn247 on September 27, 2008, 06:44:19 AM
Word and no worries; constructive criticism and discussion is always welcome...

Totally unrelated; I think I just drank way too much coffee and am having cramps in my chest...I just wanted to force a dump to come out too.... :-\

I think I should avoid coffee in the future for the sake of the ticker...what do you think?

I would say avoid it, but I'm dating a girl that works at a Starbucks.  I'm practically force fed that stuff.
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: Deicide on September 27, 2008, 06:45:44 AM
I would say avoid it, but I'm dating a girl that works at a Starbucks.  I'm practically force fed that stuff.

When I was younger I didn't worry much but now that I am past thirty I try to avoid it; it is just so good for taking dumps.

Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: Dballn247 on September 27, 2008, 06:48:02 AM
When I was younger I didn't worry much but now that I am past thirty I try to avoid it; it is just so good for taking dumps.



I hear ya, I'm 32. However if I need to take a dump, fast food works for me.  It comes out looking like Indian food. ;D
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: SUPREME BEING on September 27, 2008, 06:49:57 AM
Hey Decide are you studying in the UK?

If so which University do you attend and what course are you currently on?

Just curious.
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: danielson on September 27, 2008, 06:53:56 AM
Nips don't bother me, they stay in their dry cleaners and grocery stores and don't go where good honest Americans hang out for the most part. Now those Dunecoons are another story, they have the gall to actually walk into bar filled with honest Americans :o If they would just stick to pumping our gas(and stop plotting to kill us) everything would be fine, but I don't like to have to look at terrorists during my social time.
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: musclecenter on September 27, 2008, 06:55:58 AM
Hi,Deicide
Will you come to here Taiwan?
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: Mars on September 27, 2008, 06:56:32 AM
they are here with us to clean our asses with their tongues and cook.
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: triple_pickle on September 27, 2008, 07:06:38 AM
well, at any given university in the us, there are usually many students from china, south korea, and india.  at my university, just these three nationalities account for more than 50 percent of all international students.  they are usually pretty well organized, have their own student associations, etc, so it is hard not to speak one's native tongue.  on the other hand, if you come from iceland or lithuania, you have no choice but to speak english so you tend to improve it more.

another thing is the field of study.  i know international students who, for example, study computer science or mathematics where there is no need to "talk" much.  for five years it is sufficient to say "let x be any real number.... then it follows...." and write a proof on the board.  students from those departments tend to suck at english, no matter what nationality.
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: Deicide on September 27, 2008, 07:17:27 AM
well, at any given university in the us, there are usually many students from china, south korea, and india.  at my university, just these three nationalities account for more than 50 percent of all international students.  they are usually pretty well organized, have their own student associations, etc, so it is hard not to speak one's native tongue.  on the other hand, if you come from iceland or lithuania, you have no choice but to speak english so you tend to improve it more.

another thing is the field of study.  i know international students who, for example, study computer science or mathematics where there is no need to "talk" much.  for five years it is sufficient to say "let x be any real number.... then it follows...." and write a proof on the board.  students from those departments tend to suck at english, no matter what nationality.

Very true. I met some Chinese engineers the other day; I couldn't understand a fucking word they said.
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: El_Pajero on September 27, 2008, 07:35:33 AM
vietcong.
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: technokc on September 27, 2008, 08:28:09 AM
Fuck the Vietnamese.  Laos representing up in the house!!  Or some shit like that. ;)

BABY!  BABY!!
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: ToxicAvenger on September 27, 2008, 09:50:10 AM
with their own kind; for some reason this bothers me and over 12 years at my university there was no difference. Why the fuck do they come here if their goal is to improve their English, become better aquainted with Western culture, etc.? No, all they do is hang out with other Japanese and Chinese people and then complain that they speak too much Japanese or Chinese; duh. If I were in China or Japan I would have to bend to their rules and they don't realise how fucking lucky they are here...Westerners have 10x worse in their countries.
I feel like I am living in Asia again in the middle of the UK. Anyway, rant over.


depends on how secure people are at mingling...

i'm originally paki but most of my friends happen to be white...
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: Deicide on September 27, 2008, 11:06:49 AM

depends on how secure people are at mingling...

i'm originally paki but most of my friends happen to be white...

Talking exclusively about Chinese, Japanese and Koreans here...
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on September 27, 2008, 11:09:34 AM
Chinese men are nerds anyway, weak race.
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: Polska_Sensation on September 27, 2008, 11:22:14 AM
  Andy Murray the Scotish tennis player, go eat some hagus, beans and some deep fried lard, then go fuck you plae, freckle faced red haided girlfriend you ugly scotish bitch
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on September 27, 2008, 11:23:46 AM
  Andy Murray the Scotish tennis player, go eat some hagus, beans and some deep fried lard, then go fuck you plae, freckle faced red haided girlfriend you ugly scotish bitch

lol
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: technokc on September 27, 2008, 11:42:16 AM
Bad ass korean girl right here.

(http://www.akys.narod.ru/images/Sung_Hi_Lee_5548874456.JPG)
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: garebear on September 27, 2008, 04:31:39 PM
Hey Deicide, you ever been to the US?

I was wondering if the UK was like the US in that it has a bunch of idiot voters.

In America, the 'stupid vote' is definitely available. The Republicans get it every election. You have probably noticed on these boards that there are Americans who think Iraq was behind 9/11, Obama is a secret Muslim, etc. etc.

I was wondering if there was a large contigent of stupid people like that in the UK. I would say they make up 15-20% of the voters in the US. Unfortunately, they decide elections.
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on September 27, 2008, 04:53:22 PM
the more asian women the better
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: Camel Jockey on September 27, 2008, 05:02:43 PM
Speak english or get out. The worst thing about these people as they expect the local crowd to learn their lingo, which only creates dislike. Now if they had just learned english in the first place..
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: Deicide on September 27, 2008, 05:39:12 PM
Hey Deicide, you ever been to the US?

I was wondering if the UK was like the US in that it has a bunch of idiot voters.

In America, the 'stupid vote' is definitely available. The Republicans get it every election. You have probably noticed on these boards that there are Americans who think Iraq was behind 9/11, Obama is a secret Muslim, etc. etc.

I was wondering if there was a large contigent of stupid people like that in the UK. I would say they make up 15-20% of the voters in the US. Unfortunately, they decide elections.

I am American, among other things...yes, there are loads of gits here in the UK.
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: titusisback on September 27, 2008, 05:51:25 PM
Will you come to here Taiwan?

Why would anyone want to go to taiwan?  ???
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: Deicide on September 27, 2008, 06:08:24 PM
Hi,Deicide
Will you come to here Taiwan?

I MIGHT, I MIGHT...
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: suckmymuscle on September 27, 2008, 08:10:09 PM
with their own kind; for some reason this bothers me and over 12 years at my university there was no difference. Why the fuck do they come here if their goal is to improve their English, become better aquainted with Western culture, etc.? No, all they do is hang out with other Japanese and Chinese people and then complain that they speak too much Japanese or Chinese; duh. If I were in China or Japan I would have to bend to their rules and they don't realise how fucking lucky they are here...Westerners have 10x worse in their countries.
I feel like I am living in Asia again in the middle of the UK. Anyway, rant over.

  They want to learn English and get an American university degree - preferably Ivy League - exclusively for professional reasons. They have no interest in American culture or Americans, for that matter.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: Deicide on September 28, 2008, 03:41:50 AM
  They want to learn English and get an American university degree - preferably Ivy League - exclusively for professional reasons. They have no interest in American culture or Americans, for that matter.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

They want an American degree in the UK? That's strange.
Title: Re: Asians who come to the West to study and learn English and just swarm about
Post by: johnny1 on September 28, 2008, 03:53:38 AM
They can sit the Knowledge test for Driving in their own Language too... ??? ???...which its ridiculous when the road rules/signs etc are in ENGLISH ???