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Title: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: mogulgangi on September 27, 2008, 09:35:43 AM
all you democrats out there..can you just be man enough to admit that john mccains superiority, wisdom, and understandance of experience completly dominated obama. Obama could not look at mccain in the eye...obama was aggreing with everythin mccain was saying...obama's lack of experience showed.If you got the balls to say that obama won last night, then you got the balls to admit mccains superiority...relax democrats, there will be more debates
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Relentless on September 27, 2008, 09:37:01 AM
You're another serf who needs to be chipped.  You can't understand why Obama won that debate because you have blinders on.  WAKE UP!
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: mogulgangi on September 27, 2008, 09:40:33 AM
You're another serf who needs to be chipped.  You can't understand why Obama won that debate because you have blinders on.  WAKE UP!

can you elaborate from last night's debate on what i need to be waken up from....il give u a chance buddy
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: slayer on September 27, 2008, 09:42:13 AM
Mccain told sympathy war stories over and over again and constantly twisted obama's policies coming off like a candidate who has nothing to offer.

As a swing voter who is not tied to either party, I was totally taken in by obama's calm cool presentation along with his exsplenation of policies. Mccain gave me nothing at all but war stories and the thought that he likes to fight wars.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: BM OUT on September 27, 2008, 09:43:26 AM
can you elaborate from last night's debate on what i need to be waken up from....il give u a chance buddy

Obama said 8 times "McCain is right".It wasnt close.If I have to hear "uhhhhh,hmmmmm,uhhhhh" for the next 4-8 years,I think I will puncture my own ear drums to avoid it.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Relentless on September 27, 2008, 09:43:42 AM
can you elaborate from last night's debate on what i need to be waken up from....il give u a chance buddy

If you can't see it, there's no reason for me to explain it.  You need to be called for being wrong, but I can't go on writing a novel about why Barack Obama won that debate.  Anyone with an analytical brain understands what I'm talking about.  McCain is a frustrated, senile old man who can't even pick a good VP running mate.  Forget last night's debate, McCain should be eliminated from consideration based on picking Sarah "Clueless" Palin.  His judgment is severely lacking.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Drama Queen on September 27, 2008, 09:44:02 AM
It was a lame debate , nobody won.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Buffgeek on September 27, 2008, 09:44:25 AM
Mccain told sympathy war stories over and over again and constantly twisted obama's policies coming off like a candidate who has nothing to offer.

As a swing voter who is not tied to either party, I was totally taken in by obama's calm cool presentation along with his exsplenation of policies. Mccain gave me nothing at all but war stories and the thought that he likes to fight wars.

I keep hearing this war stories bs. He was talking about his actual experience in dealing with the issues they were talking about. Many as recent as a few weeks ago. You cant tell "stories" about what you havent done. That is why Obama was broke when it came to that point in the debate.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Relentless on September 27, 2008, 09:44:49 AM
It was a lame debate , nobody won.

What kind of fireworks were you expecting?  It was a Presidential debate with two guys who have no business running for the office in the first place.  
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: divcom on September 27, 2008, 09:45:38 AM
Mccain told sympathy war stories over and over again and constantly twisted obama's policies coming off like a candidate who has nothing to offer.

As a swing voter who is not tied to either party, I was totally taken in by obama's calm cool presentation along with his exsplenation of policies. Mccain gave me nothing at all but war stories and the thought that he likes to fight wars.

Do you support the draft because that's what will need to fight a third front in Iran...given they have WMD...if McCain is in office?
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Relentless on September 27, 2008, 09:47:05 AM
Do you support the draft because that's what will need to fight a third front in Iran...given they have WMD...if McCain is in office?

I don't want to die and I won't fight for McCain or anybody else who wants to use American men as pawns in their foreign policy games. 

I WANT TO LIVE!
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Buffgeek on September 27, 2008, 09:48:25 AM
Do you support the draft because that's what will need to fight a third front in Iran...given they have WMD...if McCain is in office?

The UN security council all agreed upon action in Iraq. I highly doubt that will happen again especially given that Iran and Russia are spooning eachother now.  After Iraq, I highly doubt we will go to war with Iran.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: mogulgangi on September 27, 2008, 09:48:37 AM
If you can't see it, there's no reason for me to explain it.  You need to be called for being wrong, but I can't go on writing a novel about why Barack Obama won that debate.  Anyone with an analytical brain understands what I'm talking about.  McCain is a frustrated, senile old man who can't even pick a good VP running mate.  Forget last night's debate, McCain should be eliminated from consideration based on picking Sarah "Clueless" Palin.  His judgment is severely lacking.


what im i supposed to see!!....all i saw last night is a democratic candidate that is too scared to look at his opposition in the eye..mccain's strenghts come from war and experience...obama's strenghts come from teaching at the university of chicago.....what is gonna happen when putin and all those other scumbags from the east meet with obama....they are gonna stik their thumbs up his ass
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: slayer on September 27, 2008, 09:48:57 AM
20% of the veterans support mccain which tells me all I need to know about his military background....
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Drama Queen on September 27, 2008, 09:49:09 AM
What kind of fireworks were you expecting?  It was a Presidential debate with two guys who have no business running for the office in the first place.  
I didn't expect anything , what I'm saying is ,there were no winners in that debate
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Buffgeek on September 27, 2008, 09:51:03 AM
I dont think the polls are going to move after lastnight debate, and I think McCain needs to directly answer Obama on his tax policy if he is going to have a chance of winning this. He failed on the Economic front imo. Even though I agreee with what he is doing, he isnt selling it very well.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: mogulgangi on September 27, 2008, 09:54:03 AM
Mccain told sympathy war stories over and over again and constantly twisted obama's policies coming off like a candidate who has nothing to offer.

As a swing voter who is not tied to either party, I was totally taken in by obama's calm cool presentation along with his exsplenation of policies. Mccain gave me nothing at all but war stories and the thought that he likes to fight wars.


so .....while being in a heated argument, you rather choose a calm, cool, "soft" individual....over someone who will stick their thumb up his oppositions ass and let him know that you cant fuk with him!!!!    apparently you dont understand and have never been in a position of power...learn what it takes......while McCain was fighting for his life and earning medals of honor, Obama was too busy teaching a bunch of spolied ivy league nerds
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Relentless on September 27, 2008, 09:55:41 AM

what im i supposed to see!!....all i saw last night is a democratic candidate that is too scared to look at his opposition in the eye..mccain's strenghts come from war and experience...obama's strenghts come from teaching at the university of chicago.....what is gonna happen when putin and all those other scumbags from the east meet with obama....they are gonna stik their thumbs up his ass

I'm going to suggest a cure for your disease - please go to www.infowars.com (http://www.infowars.com)

It's time you wake up and see what's really going on in the world!
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: slayer on September 27, 2008, 09:56:00 AM

so .....while being in a heated argument, you rather choose a calm, cool, "soft" individual....over someone who will stick their thumb up his oppositions ass and let him know that you cant fuk with him!!!!    apparently you dont understand and have never been in a position of power...learn what it takes......while McCain was fighting for his life and earning medals of honor, Obama was too busy teaching a bunch of spolied ivy league nerds

I could give 2 shits about mccains medals , they will do the country's economic problems nothing.
thier cute for the mantle and thats about it!

u.s grant was a god awfull president, so I am not voting for someone based soley on thier medals in the military...
I need substance, not war stories...
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 27, 2008, 09:58:57 AM
No while McCain was a POW getting the shit beat out of him, Barack was was playing Lego Blocks and watching Saturday Morning Cartoons...... ;D
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Relentless on September 27, 2008, 09:59:07 AM
I could give 2 shits about mccains medals , they will do the country's economic problems nothing.
thier cute for the mantle and thats about it!

I'm with you. Do we really want to start looking at John McCain's record guys?  It isn't very pretty at all.  You can call it "experience" all you want, I'd call it a career of political posturing.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: divcom on September 27, 2008, 10:07:55 AM

what im i supposed to see!!....all i saw last night is a democratic candidate that is too scared to look at his opposition in the eye..mccain's strenghts come from war and experience...obama's strenghts come from teaching at the university of chicago.....what is gonna happen when putin and all those other scumbags from the east meet with obama....they are gonna stik their thumbs up his ass

Stop drinking and watching TV.  Go to CNN.  McCain didnt look at Obama.  He didnt even look in the camera to talk to the American people...just middleman.  Come on you can do better.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: mogulgangi on September 27, 2008, 10:13:21 AM
I'm with you. Do we really want to start looking at John McCain's record guys?  It isn't very pretty at all.  You can call it "experience" all you want, I'd call it a career of political posturing.


DUE TO OBAMA'S LACK OF RECORD, MCCAIN CAN HAVE ANYTHING ON HIS RECORD AND LOOK GOOD STANDING NEXT TO OBAMA. OBAMA HAS NOTHING  ANYWHERE , OR ANYTIME. DONT GET ME WRONG, HE HAS POTENTIAL TO BE GREAT!!!!
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Relentless on September 27, 2008, 10:15:51 AM
A little of something is certainly preferable to a whole lot of SHIT!  Get with the program.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: mogulgangi on September 27, 2008, 10:21:11 AM
A little of something is certainly preferable to a whole lot of SHIT!  Get with the program.

HUH?
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: the_steevo_uk on September 27, 2008, 10:22:08 AM
Thought it was a poor debate, I thought McCain presented himself confidently and at times talked over Obama thus appearing the stronger, but he had nothing of any real substance to say, he also outright twisted Obama's voting record which isnt really on. Obama I wasnt impressed too much by either, he lacked any strength and conviction in delivery of his points and i dont feel like either gave a uitable answer to the financial crisis despite there being almost 35 mins spent on it...
then again i suppose if you rely on TV for your politics then all you'll get is actors, so I aint gna complain, its a stage act...I'd just hoped that with all this talk of change and the end of same old washington we might all actually SEE something different, sadly no
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Busted on September 27, 2008, 10:25:14 AM
all you democrats out there..can you just be man enough to admit that john mccains superiority, wisdom, and understandance of experience completly dominated obama. Obama could not look at mccain in the eye...obama was aggreing with everythin mccain was saying...obama's lack of experience showed.If you got the balls to say that obama won last night, then you got the balls to admit mccains superiority...relax democrats, there will be more debates

Becasue several things McCain said as usual have turned out to be LIES.  Obama talked FACTS, he expalined what he would do, where  McCain liked to refer to slogans and his "maverick" style... 
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: divcom on September 27, 2008, 10:27:57 AM

DUE TO OBAMA'S LACK OF RECORD, MCCAIN CAN HAVE ANYTHING ON HIS RECORD AND LOOK GOOD STANDING NEXT TO OBAMA. OBAMA HAS NOTHING  ANYWHERE , OR ANYTIME. DONT GET ME WRONG, HE HAS POTENTIAL TO BE GREAT!!!!

Just like Clinton.  His potential is worth more than an Old War Monger with no Economic common sense which we need at the moment and a clueless Beauty Queen who can't answer pre-written questions in an interview.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Busted on September 27, 2008, 10:28:06 AM
I keep hearing this war stories bs. He was talking about his actual experience in dealing with the issues they were talking about. Many as recent as a few weeks ago. You cant tell "stories" about what you havent done. That is why Obama was broke when it came to that point in the debate.

What does war stories have to do with him VOTING for the Iraq war?  Voting with Bush 90% of the time (FACT) More worried about Iraq that our OWN PEOPLE.

And Chosing a woman who is not even qualified to be a school teacher.... (teachers can atleast answer questions)
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: mogulgangi on September 27, 2008, 10:28:15 AM
Thought it was a poor debate, I thought McCain presented himself confidently and at times talked over Obama thus appearing the stronger, but he had nothing of any real substance to say, he also outright twisted Obama's voting record which isnt really on. Obama I wasnt impressed too much by either, he lacked any strength and conviction in delivery of his points and i dont feel like either gave a uitable answer to the financial crisis despite there being almost 35 mins spent on it...
then again i suppose if you rely on TV for your politics then all you'll get is actors, so I aint gna complain, its a stage act...I'd just hoped that with all this talk of change and the end of same old washington we might all actually SEE something different, sadly no

GOOD POINT....BUT, you are being to harsh in criticsm over answers....You cant really answer precisizely on what to do to fix the economy. I thought McCains explanation of what he is going to do "consult every dep and find a reasonable way" and his tax policy are more effective that Obama's "Cut funding, tax more, hurt corporations, hurt invesments, spend on lucrative invesments" and "we must sit down a find a way to help the economy"
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: mogulgangi on September 27, 2008, 10:33:09 AM
What does war stories have to do with him VOTING for the Iraq war?  Voting with Bush 90% of the time (FACT) More worried about Iraq that our OWN PEOPLE.

And Chosing a woman who is not even qualified to be a school teacher.... (teachers can atleast answer questions)


how is worrying about the most centralized and dangerous area of terrorism not for the american people? STUPID...you got a problem..u dont prepare for the future


Palin has more executive exprience than mccain, biden, and obama....get ur facts right
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 27, 2008, 10:34:15 AM
Thought it was a poor debate, I thought McCain presented himself confidently and at times talked over Obama thus appearing the stronger, but he had nothing of any real substance to say, he also outright twisted Obama's voting record which isnt really on. Obama I wasnt impressed too much by either, he lacked any strength and conviction in delivery of his points and i dont feel like either gave a uitable answer to the financial crisis despite there being almost 35 mins spent on it...
then again i suppose if you rely on TV for your politics then all you'll get is actors, so I aint gna complain, its a stage act...I'd just hoped that with all this talk of change and the end of same old washington we might all actually SEE something different, sadly no


That was McCain's problem.  He came in way too strong at the debate, talked over him, and pretty much came out attacking.  By doing so, he sounded fustrated and much like an old man swinging his cane at kids to get out of his yard.  Obama simply parried the attack and kept popping him on the head with words such as "judgement" and President Bush.  

McCain would have faired better if he was more professional and didn't use the same GOP retoric such as naive and liberal.  Instead it was nothing more than a 45 minute Republican Ad.  

Obama was Harvard Law Professor...he's definitely not going to slip up easily and the experience question is pretty much worn down
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Busted on September 27, 2008, 10:35:58 AM

so .....while being in a heated argument, you rather choose a calm, cool, "soft" individual....over someone who will stick their thumb up his oppositions ass and let him know that you cant fuk with him!!!!    apparently you dont understand and have never been in a position of power...learn what it takes......while McCain was fighting for his life and earning medals of honor, Obama was too busy teaching a bunch of spolied ivy league nerds

McCain didnt have the brain power to get in a ivy league school... hence why he was 5th from the bottom in his graduating class... earning a meatl of honor doenst = smart enough to be commander in chief..
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Busted on September 27, 2008, 10:39:15 AM

how is worrying about the most centralized and dangerous area of terrorism not for the american people? STUPID...you got a problem..u dont prepare for the future


Palin has more executive exprience than mccain, biden, and obama....get ur facts right

THis is what Palin's "Exec Exp" has taught her...

Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 27, 2008, 10:52:51 AM
McCain didnt have the brain power to get in a ivy league school... hence why he was 5th from the bottom in his graduating class... earning a meatl of honor doenst = smart enough to be commander in chief..


He never got a Medal of Honor or even close.  In fact, he was about to be kicked out of the Navy.  His promotions were turned down repeatedly.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: boonasty on September 27, 2008, 11:03:53 AM
If I have to hear "uhhhhh,hmmmmm,uhhhhh" for the next 4-8 years,I think I will puncture my own ear drums to avoid it.

i feel a new drinking game coming on





Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: mogulgangi on September 27, 2008, 11:08:59 AM
THis is what Palin's "Exec Exp" has taught her...



that was a great answer by sarah palin!!!.....basically was she was saying , "no , were not just going to give money to people for free" it dosent work like that katie couric....you must fix the infastructure... once its fixed, more opportunity if avaliable for adventure capitalists , aka people seeiking more cash flows...
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Drama Queen on September 27, 2008, 11:09:43 AM
THis is what Palin's "Exec Exp" has taught her...


;D ;D


Remind me of
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: 240 is Back on September 27, 2008, 11:10:26 AM
Mccain's strength is foreign policy.

At worst, Obama tied him (although audience reponse and more polls had obama winning).

If you tie a man at his strength, you have a certain advantage.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: mogulgangi on September 27, 2008, 11:10:57 AM

He never got a Medal of Honor or even close.  In fact, he was about to be kicked out of the Navy.  His promotions were turned down repeatedly.

His 17 military awards and decorations include the Silver Star, Legion of Merit, Distinguished Flying Cross, Bronze Star and Navy Commendation Medal, for actions before, during, and after his time as a POW
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: mogulgangi on September 27, 2008, 11:12:07 AM
McCain didnt have the brain power to get in a ivy league school... hence why he was 5th from the bottom in his graduating class... earning a meatl of honor doenst = smart enough to be commander in chief..


so what ur saying is that if u dont attend an ivy league school, ur an idiot.....WRONG...
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Polska_Sensation on September 27, 2008, 11:15:49 AM
  Obama just basically make's McCain look bad. Obama acts all cool and collected like nothing ruffles his feathers. He is very composed and cool. This made McCain look a little hbit meaner and wierd but that is Obama's plan from the start. McCain is'nt that type of dude, he doesn't act like that.  McCain did a great job, it will give him confidence and hew will do a lot better at the next debate.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: 240 is Back on September 27, 2008, 11:18:07 AM
either guy will do fine as president, as would biden.

Palin would be a puppet, cheerleading whatever agenda her handlers put on her desk.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: RagingBull on September 27, 2008, 11:20:35 AM
all you democrats out there..can you just be man enough to admit that john mccains superiority, wisdom, and understandance of experience completly dominated obama. Obama could not look at mccain in the eye...obama was aggreing with everythin mccain was saying...obama's lack of experience showed.If you got the balls to say that obama won last night, then you got the balls to admit mccains superiority...relax democrats, there will be more debates

John McCain definitely won last night...not a KO...but certainly an OVERWHELMING victory.  You have to understand that the sheep outnumber the shepherds...hence the ridiculous and unwarranted spin that Hussein won.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: 240 is Back on September 27, 2008, 11:26:33 AM
John McCain definitely won last night...not a KO...but certainly an OVERWHELMING victory.  You have to understand that the sheep outnumber the shepherds...hence the ridiculous and unwarranted spin that Hussein won.

That's hard to believe though.  This means all polls are invalid too?
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: 240 is Back on September 27, 2008, 11:28:52 AM
John McCain definitely won last night...not a KO...but certainly an OVERWHELMING victory.  You have to understand that the sheep outnumber the shepherds...hence the ridiculous and unwarranted spin that Hussein won.

How do you deterine who are the sheep, and who are the shephards?

Remember you have guys like Coach who seriously believe that Palin knows more about energy than anyone else in the USA, because mccain said so.  They believe that she is, as mccain claims, THE MOST QUALIFIED candidate available.

There are people who "buy anything their guys says" on both sides of the political spectrum.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 27, 2008, 11:35:52 AM
His 17 military awards and decorations include the Silver Star, Legion of Merit, Distinguished Flying Cross, Bronze Star and Navy Commendation Medal, for actions before, during, and after his time as a POW


No MOH and a ton of disiplinary report.  McCain got into a lot of trouble before and after being a POW.  He's has a good military record but for being a POW, its kind of disappointing.  It only took 4 days for for the Viet-Kong to make him confess his crimes of being an American. 

I will admit that McCain took a serious ass-beating for the US.  Gotta respect that
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: mogulgangi on September 27, 2008, 11:40:11 AM
How do you deterine who are the sheep, and who are the shephards?

Remember you have guys like Coach who seriously believe that Palin knows more about energy than anyone else in the USA, because mccain said so.  They believe that she is, as mccain claims, THE MOST QUALIFIED candidate available.

There are people who "buy anything their guys says" on both sides of the political spectrum.


AND THERE ARE THOSE WHO THINK OBAMA IS QUALIFIED.....WIERDDD

TALK ABOUT BRAINWASHING........
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: 240 is Back on September 27, 2008, 11:46:18 AM

AND THERE ARE THOSE WHO THINK OBAMA IS QUALIFIED.....WIERDDD

TALK ABOUT BRAINWASHING........

11 years in state and national senate
7 years teaching law and working as a lawyer
3 years working on community

Plus you toss in 8 years of school to get a harvard law degree with honors.

it's more than Bush, Clinton or Reagan had.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: mogulgangi on September 27, 2008, 11:55:01 AM
11 years in state and national senate
7 years teaching law and working as a lawyer
3 years working on community

Plus you toss in 8 years of school to get a harvard law degree with honors.

it's more than Bush, Clinton or Reagan had.


3 years working on cummunity....lol...what does that mean
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Camel Jockey on September 27, 2008, 11:57:14 AM

DUE TO OBAMA'S LACK OF RECORD, MCCAIN CAN HAVE ANYTHING ON HIS RECORD AND LOOK GOOD STANDING NEXT TO OBAMA. OBAMA HAS NOTHING  ANYWHERE , OR ANYTIME. DONT GET ME WRONG, HE HAS POTENTIAL TO BE GREAT!!!!

Fuck are you smoking?

Obama graduated from Columbia, and then got his law degree from Harvard all the while becoming president of the Harvard Law Review. McCain graduated like 860th in his class, crashed 5 jets and got everything in life just because he got his ass kicked and was the son of an admiral.

The idea that McCain is a superior candidate is a fallacy.

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3 years working on cummunity....lol...what does that mean

It means, dumbass, that Obama has varied experience, probably more so that McCain. The US presidency is pretty much the most important job in the world, so a person wishing to be president should have the best credentials.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debat
Post by: onlyme on September 27, 2008, 11:57:44 AM
McCain took charge of the debate.  He might not have had the best responses but he was in charge of the debate.  He talked over Obama and Obama did nothing but cave-in.  He let McCain talk over him and cut him off.  Obama has no balls.  But Obama easily talks a better game than McCain.  Whether its all bullshit or not I guess we will all see.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: mogulgangi on September 27, 2008, 12:05:31 PM
Fuck are you smoking?

Obama graduated from Columbia, and then got his law degree from Harvard all the while becoming president of the Harvard Law Review. McCain graduated like 860th in his class, crashed 5 jets and got everything in life just because he got his ass kicked and was the son of an admiral.

The idea that McCain is a superior candidate is a fallacy.

It means, dumbass, that Obama has varied experience, probably more so that McCain. The US presidency is pretty much the most important job in the world, so a person wishing to be president should have the best credentials.

my cousin got a degree from harvard law and graduated with honors...should he be a president, HELLL NO!!!!....


"The US presidency is pretty much the most important job in the world, so a person wishing to be president should have the best credentials."

Military experience =McCain
Experience in tought situtations= McCain
Leadership experience = McCain
Aquianted with high rankin personel = McCain
Knows Polittics in and out due to experience = McCain
Who will other power in the world have more respect for= McCain
What do McCain and every single other predisent we have ever had have in common= Experience, military background, and being more than just a senator
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debat
Post by: Camel Jockey on September 27, 2008, 12:12:02 PM
McCain took charge of the debate.  He might not have had the best responses but he was in charge of the debate.  He talked over Obama and Obama did nothing but cave-in.  He let McCain talk over him and cut him off.  Obama has no balls.  But Obama easily talks a better game than McCain.  Whether its all bullshit or not I guess we will all see.

We're talking the best man for the job, not who you'd like to have a beer with.

Obama was in control, and anyone who doesn't see that is an idiot. He was polite to McCain, as a president ought to be, and he pointed out his agreements with McCain. He also was very precise in explaining his own policies without resorting to tasteless personal attacks. In comparison, McCain came off as desperate telling stories and anyone who was "impressed" by that is a fucking moron.

We shouldn't be surprised with your reaction. I mean you are same fat and bitter fuck who's admitted he had trouble graduating high school.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: 240 is Back on September 27, 2008, 12:13:32 PM

3 years working on cummunity....lol...what does that mean

He was a community organizer after finishing harvard law, magna cum laude.

instead of going to NY and making 300k a year, he worked in his community of chicago for 3 years, trying to better the place.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debat
Post by: James Phoenix on September 27, 2008, 12:17:58 PM
By agreeing with McCain on some points, Obama showed that he's a leader willing to find common ground amongst the various factions in politics; afterall, the president IS supposed to represent the people and their diverse needs, not special interest. This trait is important, considering all the damage Bush has done to our reputation on the world stage.

Compared to Obama, McCain came off looking single-minded and grumpy.
His dirty tactic of painting Obama as someone that doesn't "understand" shows just how petty he is. He looked like he's more about playing politics than speaking on issues that will help the American people.
Just wait until the next debate; Obama will show how little McCain "understands" economic issues.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debat
Post by: OneMoreRep on September 27, 2008, 12:21:01 PM
McCain took charge of the debate.  He might not have had the best responses but he was in charge of the debate.  He talked over Obama and Obama did nothing but cave-in.  He let McCain talk over him and cut him off.  Obama has no balls.  But Obama easily talks a better game than McCain.  Whether its all bullshit or not I guess we will all see.

On the contrary, I found that Obama controlled the debate all around.  The man had a natural knack for stripping his opponent reminiscent of the way in which Malcolm X used to crush others during a speech or debate.  Obama simply laughed at the fallacies that McCain was spilling.  

Example of the massive PWNING Obama dropped on McCain:

"John, you like to pretend like the war started in 2007. You talk about the surge. The war started in 2003, and at the time when the war started, you said it was going to be quick and easy. You said we knew where the weapons of mass destruction were. You were wrong. You said that we were going to be greeted as liberators. You were wrong. You said that there was no history of violence between Shia and Sunni. And you were wrong."

Obama delivered an Ass Raping of massive lubricating proportions,
"1"


Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: slayer on September 27, 2008, 12:28:27 PM
Mccain sounded like the grand pooba giving a self absorbed speach at the local american legion hall..

You had to really be on your game last night as a viewer to catch anything of real substance out of mccains sherade..
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Drama Queen on September 27, 2008, 01:00:52 PM
The president of United States should always come from a middle class background.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 27, 2008, 01:58:44 PM
all you democrats out there..can you just be man enough to admit that john mccains superiority, wisdom, and understandance of experience completly dominated obama. Obama could not look at mccain in the eye...obama was aggreing with everythin mccain was saying...obama's lack of experience showed.If you got the balls to say that obama won last night, then you got the balls to admit mccains superiority...relax democrats, there will be more debates


The trolls of the messiah will never admit was a joke he is.  To any thinking person, McCain destroyed Obama on substance. 

Obamas most common answer all night:  "I agree with John" 

He no answers, no substance, no clarity, only bs.  Obambi supporters could care less, they like a good con artist and could care less what he says.

BTW to all you followers of the lord messiah:

ZERO took more money from fanny and freddy over the last three years than anyone else,

ZERO's person in charge of picking a vp was Ted Johnson who took millions from fanny and freddy.


Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 27, 2008, 02:03:33 PM
I could give 2 shits about mccains medals , they will do the country's economic problems nothing.
thier cute for the mantle and thats about it!

u.s grant was a god awfull president, so I am not voting for someone based soley on thier medals in the military...
I need substance, not war stories...

Obama:

ZERO experience running anything

ZERO foreign policy experience

ZERO meeting held by his subcommittee

ZERO bills and laws passed as US Senator

ZERO bills or laws passed as State Senator

ZERO military experience

ZERO executive experience


Do you want more??????????????????
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: dearth on September 27, 2008, 02:03:53 PM
you must have tuned in after the discussion on economy where mccains flub after flub was everything but substance.
remember the "fundamentals of the economy are strong" !


The trolls of the messiah will never admit was a joke he is.  To any thinking person, McCain destroyed Obama on substance. 

Obamas most common answer all night:  "I agree with John" 

He no answers, no substance, no clarity, only bs.  Obambi supporters could care less, they like a good con artist and could care less what he says.

BTW to all you followers of the lord messiah:

ZERO took more money from fanny and freddy over the last three years than anyone else,

ZERO's person in charge of picking a vp was Ted Johnson who took millions from fanny and freddy.



Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Busted on September 27, 2008, 02:08:04 PM
McCains Experience said this was the most qualified person to be his VP..  Any questions?

Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 27, 2008, 02:09:57 PM
McCain didnt have the brain power to get in a ivy league school... hence why he was 5th from the bottom in his graduating class... earning a meatl of honor doenst = smart enough to be commander in chief..


Hysterical.  Obama said the following time and time again:  I agree with John McCain.

Obama is a token candidate whose only qualification is his race.  ZERO experience, ZERO accomplishments, ZERO laws to his name, ZERO anything.

Obama is an empty suit and had nothing to say about anything.   Anyone who runs a business knows raising taxes and inceasing spending is the wrong thing to do.  Obama doesn't know a damn thing about the economy other than complain and blame.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 27, 2008, 02:13:03 PM
He was a community organizer after finishing harvard law, magna cum laude.

instead of going to NY and making 300k a year, he worked in his community of chicago for 3 years, trying to better the place.


So Al sharpton is qualified to be president???? 

Give me a break, go on youtube and the following people all say ZERO is not qualified to be president:

1.  Hillary Clinton
2.  Bill /clinton
3.  Joe Biden

Keep lying to yourself.  Obama is not qualified to run a garage sale, let alone be president.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: dearth on September 27, 2008, 02:13:25 PM
  Anyone who runs a business knows raising taxes and inceasing spending is the wrong thing to do.  


Everyone except for your buddy Mccain.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debat
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 27, 2008, 02:14:14 PM
By agreeing with McCain on some points, Obama showed that he's a leader willing to find common ground amongst the various factions in politics; afterall, the president IS supposed to represent the people and their diverse needs, not special interest. This trait is important, considering all the damage Bush has done to our reputation on the world stage.

Compared to Obama, McCain came off looking single-minded and grumpy.
His dirty tactic of painting Obama as someone that doesn't "understand" shows just how petty he is. He looked like he's more about playing politics than speaking on issues that will help the American people.
Just wait until the next debate; Obama will show how little McCain "understands" economic issues.

ZERO only said that because he had no idea WTF he was talking about or the subject matter at hand.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: dearth on September 27, 2008, 02:15:03 PM
yeah you're right,
they are all unqualified since  
all have visited other countries, and not owned their own snowmobile rental shop.


So Al sharpton is qualified to be president???? 

Give me a break, go on youtube and the following people all say ZERO is not qualified to be president:

1.  Hillary Clinton
2.  Bill /clinton
3.  Joe Biden

Keep lying to yourself.  Obama is not qualified to run a garage sale, let alone be president.

Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debat
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on September 27, 2008, 02:16:07 PM
all you democrats out there..can you just be man enough to admit that john mccains superiority, wisdom, and understandance of experience completly dominated obama. Obama could not look at mccain in the eye...obama was aggreing with everythin mccain was saying...obama's lack of experience showed.If you got the balls to say that obama won last night, then you got the balls to admit mccains superiority...relax democrats, there will be more debates
Osama Bin Laden is not in Iraq. And he has never been. Mccain never once mentioned Osamas name last night. Mccain is lost in a time warp. He will not win. he had his shot in 2000.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: 240 is Back on September 27, 2008, 02:19:25 PM
Obama:
ZERO bills and laws passed as US Senator
ZERO bills or laws passed as State Senator


Senator Obama has sponsored or co-sponsored 570 bills in the 109th and 110th Congress.

Senator Obama has sponsored or co-sponsored 15 bills that have become LAW since he joined the Senate in 2005.  Also, Senator Obama has also introduced amendments to 50 bills, of which 16 were adopted by the Senate.

Bills he sponsored that have become law.  
Two addressed foreign policy:
Promote relief, security and democracy in the Congo (2125)
Develop democratic institutions in areas under Palestinian control (2370).

Three addressed public health:
Improve mine safety (2803)
Increased breast cancer funding (597)
Reduce preterm delivery and complications, reduce infant mortality (707).

Two addressed openness and accountability in government:
Strengthening the Freedom of Information Act (2488)
Full disclosure of all entities receiving federal funds (2590)

Two addressed national security
Extend Terrorist Risk Insurance (467)
Amend the Patriot Act (2167)

One addressed the needs of the Armed Forces
Wave passport fees to visit graves, attend memorials/funerals of veterans abroad (1184).

Next time someone asks you "where's the beef" in Senator Obama's Senate record, please feel free to send the link to this diary.


Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debat
Post by: divcom on September 27, 2008, 02:19:47 PM
Osama Bin Laden is not in Iraq. And he has never been. Mccain never once mentioned Osamas name last night. Mccain is lost in a time warp. He will not win. he had his shot in 2000.

How are you going to tell the Heartland, Mid-West and some parts of the deep South that McCain is a bad choice when they are only concerned that Obama is a Mulatto?  Shows the USA has a long way to go.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: 240 is Back on September 27, 2008, 02:20:42 PM
So Al sharpton is qualified to be president???? 

If community organizer was the ONLY thing on his resume, then no, Obama wouldn't be qiualified.

However, 11 years in Senates, 7 years teaching law, 7 years practicing law are pretty darn impressive for a guy who's only 47 years old.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: OneMoreRep on September 27, 2008, 02:21:35 PM
Senator Obama has sponsored or co-sponsored 570 bills in the 109th and 110th Congress.

Senator Obama has sponsored or co-sponsored 15 bills that have become LAW since he joined the Senate in 2005.  Also, Senator Obama has also introduced amendments to 50 bills, of which 16 were adopted by the Senate.

Bills he sponsored that have become law.  
Two addressed foreign policy:
Promote relief, security and democracy in the Congo (2125)
Develop democratic institutions in areas under Palestinian control (2370).

Three addressed public health:
Improve mine safety (2803)
Increased breast cancer funding (597)
Reduce preterm delivery and complications, reduce infant mortality (707).

Two addressed openness and accountability in government:
Strengthening the Freedom of Information Act (2488)
Full disclosure of all entities receiving federal funds (2590)

Two addressed national security
Extend Terrorist Risk Insurance (467)
Amend the Patriot Act (2167)

One addressed the needs of the Armed Forces
Wave passport fees to visit graves, attend memorials/funerals of veterans abroad (1184).

Next time someone asks you "where's the beef" in Senator Obama's Senate record, please feel free to send the link to this diary.


240 delivering massive PWnage on that 333 fellow..
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debat
Post by: James Phoenix on September 27, 2008, 02:23:14 PM
If community organizer was the ONLY thing on his resume, then no, Obama wouldn't be qiualified.

However, 11 years in Senates, 7 years teaching law, 7 years practicing law are pretty darn impressive for a guy who's only 47 years old.

And as you pointed out, he was able to transfer from a third-tier school to a first-tier school based on his grades alone. He must be an intelligent guy. What are McCain's academic achievements?
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 27, 2008, 02:26:07 PM
McCains Experience said this was the most qualified person to be his VP..  Any questions?



Do you want me to send youtube clips of Biden asking disabled people to stand out of their wheelchair?

How about Biden claiming FDR went on tv in 1929???

Or maybe you want me to send you the one about Abambi claiming there are 57 states????

No, i like the one where Biden, Bill Clinton, and Hillary are say Obama is not qualified for president.  Maybe that one will suffice for you????
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debat
Post by: Camel Jockey on September 27, 2008, 02:28:09 PM
ZERO only said that because he had no idea WTF he was talking about or the subject matter at hand.


Looks you and McOld have no idea about the subject matter at hand.

And did you read 240's post? He refuted many of your points.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 27, 2008, 02:29:00 PM
240 delivering massive PWnage on that 333 fellow..

Do you realize what cosponsor means?????  Nothing. 

Again, name one law or major piece of legislation to his name. 

Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: 240 is Back on September 27, 2008, 02:30:11 PM
And as you pointed out, he was able to transfer from a third-tier school to a first-tier school based on his grades alone. He must be an intelligent guy. What are McCain's academic achievements?

Mccain graduated from the Naval Academy.  He was ranked 894th out of 899 students.  Very low.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debat
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 27, 2008, 02:30:32 PM
And as you pointed out, he was able to transfer from a third-tier school to a first-tier school based on his grades alone. He must be an intelligent guy. What are McCain's academic achievements?

George Bush went to Harvard and Yale.  Are you now saying he is as smart as Obama?????
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Neurotoxin on September 27, 2008, 02:31:08 PM
20% of the veterans support mccain  which tells me all I need to know about his military background....


McCain pwned by veterans !  :o



NT
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debat
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 27, 2008, 02:32:24 PM
Looks you and McOld have no idea about the subject matter at hand.

And did you read 240's post? He refuted many of your points.


Sponsoring a bill and authoring a bill are two different things fool.

He signed onto someone elses bill and wants to take credit for it???  Thants nothing to be proud of.

Again, name one piece of legislation that he authored and got passed?????
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debat
Post by: James Phoenix on September 27, 2008, 02:32:48 PM
George Bush went to Harvard and Yale.  Are you now saying he is as smart as Obama?????

George Bush was born into a privileged family and struggled to make C's and D's.

Obama came from a humble background,
and was able to become a top student, in a top university, based on academic achievement.

Big difference.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Busted on September 27, 2008, 02:32:56 PM
If community organizer was the ONLY thing on his resume, then no, Obama wouldn't be qiualified.

However, 11 years in Senates, 7 years teaching law, 7 years practicing law are pretty darn impressive for a guy who's only 47 years old.

Actually 12 years teaching law and 12 years practicing law Dont undercut him :D
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 27, 2008, 02:34:42 PM
Mccain graduated from the Naval Academy.  He was ranked 894th out of 899 students.  Very low.

People who go the military academies have far more to deal with than solely academic studies.  They are preparing how to keep your ass and this country safe.

You woulndn't last five minutes in pleabe boot camp and woulndt last for two minutes of what McCain went through in his life.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debat
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 27, 2008, 02:36:08 PM
George Bush was born into a privileged family and struggled to make C's and D's.

Obama came from a humble background,
and was able to become a top student, in a top university, based on academic achievement.

Big difference.

And affirmative action.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debat
Post by: chocolate fizz on September 27, 2008, 02:38:30 PM
George Bush was born into a privileged family and struggled to make C's and D's.

Obama came from a humble background,
and was able to become a top student, in a top university, based on academic achievement.

Big difference.

240 is a fuckwit, your post will go over his head.

He was the same when asked to answer the facts about Obamas openly muslim family, family who laugh when told Obama claims to have fuck all ties to Islam.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debat
Post by: James Phoenix on September 27, 2008, 02:40:54 PM
And affirmative action.

Whether affirmative action helped him get in to a good school doesn't matter;
once he made it to Harvard Law school he proved his ability through his grades.
^ That's what matters.

Also, I think there should be affirmative action, for the poor; George Bush is good enough reason.

He's considered a dumbass by members of his own party,
yet his family background is enough to put him in a top-tier school.
He was wasting all those years doing coke and making D's when another Obama could have taken his place.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debat
Post by: divcom on September 27, 2008, 02:41:18 PM
And affirmative action.

The copout  words to discredit hard work of minorities in America.  Yeah…I’m sure an AA recipient, since he wouldn’t have the grades and intellect, could be top 5% in his Harvard Law Class.  Keep coming with the BS.  

Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: OneMoreRep on September 27, 2008, 02:43:20 PM
Do you realize what cosponsor means?????  Nothing. 

Again, name one law or major piece of legislation to his name. 

The Senate does not pass Laws, the Senate passes Bills or Resolutions.  

If anything, my limited understanding is that Bills can be proposed by Senators that later get voted for by the Committee leading to its induction as a Law.  Hence, if the Senate is divided, no matter how good your bill is, they can just vote against it in spite of it's ability to bring about good change.

"1"

P.S. Goatboy or 240 correct me on this, for as my forte isn't politics..
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: 240 is Back on September 27, 2008, 02:45:00 PM
People who go the military academies have far more to deal with than solely academic studies.  They are preparing how to keep your ass and this country safe.

You woulndn't last five minutes in pleabe boot camp and woulndt last for two minutes of what McCain went through in his life.

You may be entirely correct in this belief.  

However, a person asked about his education, and I posted it.

If McCain had graduated 1st in his class of 899 students, you can bet the republicans would be making a HUGE deal about how bright he is.


He was the same when asked to answer the facts about Obamas openly muslim family, family who laugh when told Obama claims to have fuck all ties to Islam.

If Obama's a Muslim, it would cost him a LOT of votes.  hilary was never able to deliver anything proving it, and mccain hasn't thus far, despite 'rumors' which could be designed for fundraising purposes.

Honestly, I have no love for jihadists and would happily cap ten of them then eat a ham sandwich.  That being said, religion in a leader is overrated.  Reagan WAS NOT religious, and was a great leader.  Bush is very religious and hasn't done so well.  He consulted God, but not his secretary of defense, before invading Iraq, e admits.

This is an emotional topic and we're all going to get very fired up over it.  No sense in calling names.  Lots of undecided voters read getbig.  Tell us why Mccain will make our country better, despite his adherance to most Bush policies.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Camel Jockey on September 27, 2008, 02:49:34 PM
The Senate does not pass Laws, the Senate passes Bills or Resolutions.  


"1"

LOL This 333386 guy is getting owned.  ;D

McCain getting his ass beat and getting admitted to the Naval Academy just because his daddy was an admiral does not make him a good presidential candidate. In fact, military experience is irrelevant.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: chocolate fizz on September 27, 2008, 03:06:23 PM
If Obama's a Muslim, it would cost him a LOT of votes.  hilary was never able to deliver anything proving it, and mccain hasn't thus far, despite 'rumors' which could be designed for fundraising purposes.

Honestly, I have no love for jihadists and would happily cap ten of them then eat a ham sandwich.  That being said, religion in a leader is overrated.  Reagan WAS NOT religious, and was a great leader.  Bush is very religious and hasn't done so well.  He consulted God, but not his secretary of defense, before invading Iraq, e admits.

This is an emotional topic and we're all going to get very fired up over it.  No sense in calling names.  Lots of undecided voters read getbig.  Tell us why Mccain will make our country better, despite his adherance to most Bush policies.

EYES WIDE SHUT!!!

First of all Rob, apologies for biting at you, you know I think your a kewl guy, it just you know how Getbig rolls, no problems.

But, you are full of it on this issue. You and the other comatose goy are being set up, for fucks sake kick yourself up the ass.:

“Malik Obama confirms his half-brother Barack grew up a Muslim”

(http://web.israelinsider.com/Static/Binaries/Article/obamamalikholdaphotoofhisbro424_0.jpg)

http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12918.htm (http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12918.htm)

http://web.israelinsider.com/views/12917.htm (http://web.israelinsider.com/views/12917.htm)

http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/13078.htm (http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/13078.htm)

Ask yourself why 'Hilary has never found the info?' ask yourself why its never put out on 'their' media?

This is THE freshest issue as far as Obongo is concerned, its still fucking ongoing.

Rob, who said this about the call to prayer?:

Quote
"prettiest sounds on earth at sunset"

Its ALL a fuckin sham, every last piece, both sides.

Jesus Christ!
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Relentless on September 27, 2008, 03:09:18 PM
EYES WIDE SHUT!!!

First of all Rob, apologies for biting at you, you know I think your a kewl guy, it just you know how Getbig rolls, no problems.

But, you are full of it on this issue. You and the other comatose goy are being set up, for fucks sake kick yourself up the ass.:

“Malik Obama confirms his half-brother Barack grew up a Muslim”

(http://web.israelinsider.com/Static/Binaries/Article/obamamalikholdaphotoofhisbro424_0.jpg)

http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12918.htm (http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12918.htm)

http://web.israelinsider.com/views/12917.htm (http://web.israelinsider.com/views/12917.htm)

http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/13078.htm (http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/13078.htm)

Ask yourself why 'Hilary has never found the info?' ask yourself why its never put out on 'their' media?

This is THE freshest issue as far as Obongo is concerned, its still fucking ongoing.

Rob, who said this about the call to prayer?:

Its ALL a fuckin sham, every last piece, both sides.

Jesus Christ!

He's going to kill all of us, isn't he?
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: mogulgangi on September 27, 2008, 03:14:03 PM
People who go the military academies have far more to deal with than solely academic studies.  They are preparing how to keep your ass and this country safe.

You woulndn't last five minutes in pleabe boot camp and woulndt last for two minutes of what McCain went through in his life.


u are a very smart man
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: 240 is Back on September 27, 2008, 03:14:54 PM
That is HUGE if he was a muslim.  Not because of his religion, but because he LIED about it.  I don't care if a guy worships satan, has sex with hamsters, or likes to sodomize porcelean dolls, as long as he effectively leads my country.  Bush had that gannon guy spend a lot of nights in the white hosue, and he was a male prostitute, and I could care less.

If he lied, and there' proof, then why hasn't FOX used it?  Rev Wright set Obama back 10 points, and that was nothing compared to this.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: mogulgangi on September 27, 2008, 03:20:04 PM
That is HUGE if he was a muslim.  Not because of his religion, but because he LIED about it.  I don't care if a guy worships satan, has sex with hamsters, or likes to sodomize porcelean dolls, as long as he effectively leads my country.  Bush had that gannon guy spend a lot of nights in the white hosue, and he was a male prostitute, and I could care less.

If he lied, and there' proof, then why hasn't FOX used it?  Rev Wright set Obama back 10 points, and that was nothing compared to this.

when obama was asked about what areas he has to cut funding in order to "help educated 10 year olds",  "propose a new energy plan", "help the roads", he DID NOT EVEN GET CLOSE TO THE REAL ANSWER...HE BABBLED AND BABLED....

what you dont know is that obama wil be cutting funding in the first 4 months of his presidency in:(if he gets elected)
missile defense system
homeland security
nuclear program
iraq war funding
border patrol


SOUND FUNNY TO ME.....LOOK AT UP HOMEBOYS
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: chocolate fizz on September 27, 2008, 03:26:44 PM
Obongos islamic background is not in question, it is BLATANTLY clear, he is full of it.

One has to then ask: 'why and what' is the point of trying to hide this documented history? why select such a potential candidate? surely he could NEVER recover from the scandal of such a lie?

With such an inability to recover in mind, I would suggest that [maybe] he is to be elected then disposed of?

What would be the repercussion of such an event? mass ethnic strife? balkanisation of the United States? either one of those would facilitate the suspension of the constitution and thus the implementation of a police state.

If McCain is selected he will be used to usher in the financial collapse; Obongo on the other hand will be used as outlined above. Either way, by 2012 the U.S is fucked.

Both options will advance nothing other than the globalist Judeo-freemasonic World Order,

The morons who believe that either of these GLARINGLY compromised candidates are anything other than puppets being used, need their fucking heads read.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Relentless on September 27, 2008, 03:37:21 PM
Obongos islamic background is not in question, it is BLATANTLY clear, he is full of it.

One has to then ask: 'why and what' is the point of trying to hide this documented history? why select such a potential candidate? surely he could NEVER recover from the scandal of such a lie?

With such an inability to recover in mind, I would suggest that [maybe] he is to be elected then disposed of?

What would be the repercussion of such an event? mass ethnic strife? balkanisation of the United States? either one of those would facilitate the suspension of the constitution and thus the implementation of a police state.

If McCain is selected he will be used to usher in the financial collapse; Obongo on the other hand will be used as outlined above. Either way, by 2012 the U.S is fucked.

Both options will advance nothing other than the globalist Judeo-freemasonic World Order,

The morons who believe that either of these GLARINGLY compromised candidates are anything other than puppets being used, need their fucking heads read.

We're all doomed.  We're all going down and there's nothing to be done about it. 
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: divcom on September 27, 2008, 03:50:19 PM
GetMoRons!  He is wearing a Dashiki.  That has nothing to do with him being Muslim.  That customary dressing like a Scotsman wearing a skirt.  Guess that makes them f#gs.  Dont post anymore IQ and Bell Curve charts on this site.  It's like users describing their background and knowledge.  This site is unbelievable at times. 
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: chocolate fizz on September 27, 2008, 04:02:43 PM
GetMoRons!  He is wearing a Dashiki.  That has nothing to do with him being Muslim.  That customary dressing like a Scotsman wearing a skirt.  Guess that makes them f#gs.  Dont post anymore IQ and Bell Curve charts on this site.  It's like users describing their background and knowledge.  This site is unbelievable at times. 

Hey spastic, well done, you win the 'moron incapable of reading the fucking links' prize.

If you had of done, you would have known that the picture depicts the first meeting between Obama and Malik in 1985, hence Obama wearing said costume.

You would also have noted that Malik then went on to [explicitly] confirm his muslim background, and that of the Obamas in Kenya.

The picture was NEVER presented as the sole evidence of him being a muslim, clear enough wanker?

THAT is why its piss pant wettingly funny to see idiots like you trying to deny this.

Now, fuck off.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: divcom on September 27, 2008, 04:42:03 PM
Hey spastic, well done, you win the 'moron incapable of reading the fucking links' prize.

If you had of done, you would have known that the picture depicts the first meeting between Obama and Malik in 1985, hence Obama wearing said costume.

You would also have noted that Malik then went on to [explicitly] confirm his muslim background, and that of the Obamas in Kenya.

The picture was NEVER presented as the sole evidence of him being a muslim, clear enough wanker?

THAT is why its piss pant wettingly funny to see idiots like you trying to deny this.

Now, fuck off.


You really think I read through a complete thread.  Some posts are short stories.  Read the first 1-2 sentences.  Then...make a blind response.  It doesnt matter if you are correct or not.  This site isnt that important.  Hopefully...you understand. 
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: RagingBull on September 27, 2008, 06:53:31 PM
How do you deterine who are the sheep, and who are the shephards?

Remember you have guys like Coach who seriously believe that Palin knows more about energy than anyone else in the USA, because mccain said so.  They believe that she is, as mccain claims, THE MOST QUALIFIED candidate available.

There are people who "buy anything their guys says" on both sides of the political spectrum.

Unfortunately, Palin started off very "vice presidential" and has been on a downward spin since...there is no way to spin that.  Unfortunately, in such matters not many are intellectully honest with themselves.  You want "change"...and would take cancer over a toothache.  That's the nature of these things.  No matter how McCain performs, he will not be able to sway those who have made up their mind that they want "change" at any expense. 

To them/you it is irrelevant that the man for whom you are voting has little experience and his voting record in Congress is shameful.  He has absolutely no foreign policy experience and had it not been for the campaign "trips" abroad, he would in essence be a tabula rasa in such matters.  It doesn't matter that he became a senator by killing off all opponents on technicalities.  You forgive him for attending the rantings of a racist pig for 20 years...would you feel the same had a Presidential nominee attended KKK meetings?  How is that different.  Reverend Wright honored Farrakhan...a man who said Hitle was a great man.  It doesn't matter to you that a headhunter would not recommend him for any job due to his lack of focus in one area and constant jumps to other fields.  Despite what he says, Obama's voting record on increasing middle class taxes is undeniable.  Do you believe him now...despite his record?  More to say...no time.

Obama will not be the kind of President that could take that "3 AM call"...he fumbled on Russia's aggression in Georgia and his immediate reaction was that BOTH sides should show restraint.  If the world was comprised of Buddhists I may consider him for the job...until then I am voting for a real man who can make hard decisions immediately and without hiccups.
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: Relentless on September 27, 2008, 06:55:16 PM
Hey spastic, well done, you win the 'moron incapable of reading the fucking links' prize.

If you had of done, you would have known that the picture depicts the first meeting between Obama and Malik in 1985, hence Obama wearing said costume.

You would also have noted that Malik then went on to [explicitly] confirm his muslim background, and that of the Obamas in Kenya.

The picture was NEVER presented as the sole evidence of him being a muslim, clear enough wanker?

THAT is why its piss pant wettingly funny to see idiots like you trying to deny this.

Now, fuck off.


We just don't have any chance, do we fizz?
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: bigbobs on October 22, 2012, 05:13:42 PM
Rematch tonight!
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: syntaxmachine on October 22, 2012, 07:33:45 PM
all you democrats out there..can you just be man enough to admit that john mccains...understandance of experience completly dominated obama.


It's hard to admit to something that is literally incoherent, e.g., "Admit that GOBBLY GOO!!!"


Obama could not look at mccain in the eye...


Whose eye was McCain in?


obama was aggreing with everythin mccain was saying...


Nope.


.If you got the balls to say that obama won last night, then you got the balls to admit mccains superiority...


It's nothing to do with balls, really. There are generally agreed-upon norms which regulate what counts as a 'good' debate performance, and Obama adhered to these norms better than McCain. Keep the ball talk to your innermost fantasies, ball lover.


relax democrats, there will be more debates


How'd they go?
Title: Re: i cant understand why people give obama the upper hand in last night's debate..
Post by: arce1988 on October 22, 2012, 07:44:00 PM
  So Obama won two out of three?