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Title: Jay shouldnt win..........................but who should???????
Post by: technokc on September 27, 2008, 12:16:14 PM
I think for the most part we are all in agreement on the fact that Jay should not win.  Yet we seem to be all over the place on who should.  It kind of makes me miss the days of a dominant champ.

For my two cents I say Heath.

Discuss.
Title: Re: Jay shouldnt win..........................but who should???????
Post by: d0nny2600 on September 27, 2008, 12:17:15 PM
I don't see any world class Mr Olympia on that stage. Jay looks shit but noone there to take his place. If Victor was in we would have had a new Mr O
Title: Re: Jay shouldnt win..........................but who should???????
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on September 27, 2008, 12:17:36 PM
Dexter Jackson for sure
Title: Re: Jay shouldnt win..........................but who should???????
Post by: D_1000 on September 27, 2008, 12:18:34 PM
I'm fine with anyone from the group of Dex, Phil, Dennis or Toney winning.
Title: Re: Jay shouldnt win..........................but who should???????
Post by: d0nny2600 on September 27, 2008, 12:19:23 PM
I'm fine with anyone from the group of Dex, Phil, Dennis or Toney winning.
I genuinely think Freeman is the best on that stage.
Title: Re: Jay shouldnt win..........................but who should???????
Post by: James Phoenix on September 27, 2008, 12:19:50 PM
I would say Dexter Jackson, if only he could grow taller.

There's nothing "olympian" about a 5'5'' guy.
Title: Re: Jay shouldnt win..........................but who should???????
Post by: d0nny2600 on September 27, 2008, 12:21:30 PM
I would say Dexter Jackson, if only he could grow taller.

There's nothing "olympian" about a 5'5'' guy.
Stack Dex and Heath together and what do you have.....FREEMAN!
Title: Re: Jay shouldnt win..........................but who should???????
Post by: technokc on September 27, 2008, 12:28:10 PM
That's what sucks about this year.  There is no clear cut winner.  All those years everyone was complaining when Ronnie was obviously the champ, wishing that there was no one person dominating the show, have gotten what they ask for.

I think we were all wrong, it does not make the show better. :-\
Title: Re: Jay shouldnt win..........................but who should???????
Post by: James Phoenix on September 27, 2008, 12:29:30 PM
One thing you can't argue with:

Jay carries the most muscle.

He weighs the same as Wolfe despite the height disparity.

That's good enough reason to give it to Jay.
Title: Re: Jay shouldnt win..........................but who should???????
Post by: Hunter86 on September 27, 2008, 12:32:09 PM
One thing you can't argue with:

Jay carries the most muscle.

He weighs the same as Wolfe despite the height disparity.

That's good enough reason to give it to Jay.

but he looks like shit doing it
Title: Re: Jay shouldnt win..........................but who should???????
Post by: James Phoenix on September 27, 2008, 12:37:58 PM
but he looks like shit doing it

Yes, but bodybuilding puts greater precedence on muscle size than conditioning.
Both aspects of the physique, mass and conditioning, do not carry equal value.

It makes sense because it takes longer to build a lot of quality muscle than it does to take lasix and diet for weeks. Anyone can be "off" because they miscalculated the time it takes to get dry; however, you can't take away the years spent building superior muscle mass.

At the end of the day, it's a bodybuilding contest.

great muscle mass + average conditioning > average muscle mass with great conditioning.

For this reason, Jay deserves the title.
Title: Re: Jay shouldnt win..........................but who should???????
Post by: Undisputed on September 27, 2008, 12:45:06 PM
I think Jay's still gonna be tough to beat tonight...the other guys being talked about all have weak points.  As much as I was hoping for Wolf to come in and bring the house down, he dropped the ball.  No matter what anyone says, Wolf is not contending for the top spot tonight.  Dex and Phil look like middleweights when being compared to Jay.  I'm disappointed in Jay, all he had to do was dial it in one more time and he could've blown this field away..... 
Title: Re: Jay shouldnt win..........................but who should???????
Post by: James Phoenix on September 27, 2008, 12:47:02 PM
I think Jay's still gonna be tough to beat tonight...the other guys being talked about all have weak points.  As much as I was hoping for Wolf to come in and bring the house down, he dropped the ball.  No matter what anyone says, Wolf is not contending for the top spot tonight.  Dex and Phil look like middleweights when being compared to Jay.  I'm disappointed in Jay, all he had to do was dial it in one more time and he could've blown this field away..... 

Exactly.

Jay's conditioning sucks, but he still looks like a man amongst boys in direct comparisons.

He's definitely not a great Mr.Olympia, but he's still the best on stage.
Title: Re: Jay shouldnt win..........................but who should???????
Post by: affeman on September 27, 2008, 12:48:55 PM
This guy should win, thread closed. 8)

(http://www.bbszene.de/html/2008/mr_olympia_2008/tag2_men_prejudging/ESC_0019.JPG)

(http://www.bbszene.de/html/2008/mr_olympia_2008/tag2_men_prejudging/ESC_0013.JPG)

(http://www.bbszene.de/html/2008/mr_olympia_2008/tag2_men_prejudging/ESC_0198.JPG)

(http://www.bbszene.de/html/2008/mr_olympia_2008/tag2_men_prejudging/ESC_0317.JPG)

(http://www.bbszene.de/html/2008/mr_olympia_2008/tag2_men_prejudging/ESC_0324.JPG)

(http://www.bbszene.de/html/2008/mr_olympia_2008/tag2_men_prejudging/ESC_0342.JPG)
Title: Re: Jay shouldnt win..........................but who should???????
Post by: James Phoenix on September 27, 2008, 12:50:42 PM
Wolf looks like a skinny spider-monkey compared to Jay's He-Man.
Title: Re: Jay shouldnt win..........................but who should???????
Post by: Hunter86 on September 27, 2008, 12:53:20 PM
Yes, but bodybuilding puts greater precedence on muscle size than conditioning.
Both aspects of the physique, mass and conditioning, do not carry equal value.

It makes sense because it takes longer to build a lot of quality muscle than it does to take lasix and diet for weeks. Anyone can be "off" because they miscalculated the time it takes to get dry; however, you can't take away the years spent building superior muscle mass.

At the end of the day, it's a bodybuilding contest.

great muscle mass + average conditioning > average muscle mass with great conditioning.

For this reason, Jay deserves the title.

well put
Title: Re: Jay shouldnt win..........................but who should???????
Post by: Bobby on September 27, 2008, 12:55:45 PM
Jay should win!

Wolf isn't as good as last year and if he didn't win then he isn't going to now. better luck next year.

Heath looks great but is "narrow" and supposedly all arms, won't win in his first o either.

Dex is the same ole dex

Freeman has climbed in the placings but won't eat the whole cake
Title: Re: Jay shouldnt win..........................but who should???????
Post by: James Phoenix on September 27, 2008, 12:57:16 PM
Jay should win!

Wolf isn't as good as last year and if he didn't win then he isn't going to now. better luck next year.

Heath looks great but is "narrow" and supposedly all arms, won't win in his first o either.

Dex is the same ole dex

Freeman has climbed in the placings but won't eat the whole cake

Yes, the fact that Jay is the best man on stage is a testament to how poor the competition has become.

How we long for the era of Levrone, Wheeler, Yates, et al.