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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: TrueGrit on September 28, 2008, 05:05:35 AM
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15 years ago now...but would the shadow have flown in to take the Sandow?
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I'm not sure, I think we need Hulkster and crew in here immediately to solve this mystery.
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Could this beat Dexter?
(http://i15.tinypic.com/6ss0dfq.jpg)
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Easily. The others would be licking his sweat off the stage to try and steal some greatness.
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Hahah worst arms and midsection of any Olympian!
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Hahah worst arms and midsection of any Olympian!
Even in 93?
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Even in 93?
He's always been a blocky bodybuilder to me. Nothing aesthetically pleasing about him. Nothing flows. Look at some of the competitors he beat out. I'll give him '93 but the others? Levrone?
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He's always been a blocky bodybuilder to me. Nothing aesthetically pleasing about him. Nothing flows. Look at some of the competitors he beat out. I'll give him '93 but the others? Levrone?
worse midsection? are you high? blocky? damn you don't know much I laughed when you typed I'll give him 93 you're a funny guy :D
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Yates 1993 would win with ease
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You cant compare pictures from different contests ..
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Yates 93 would have finished first, second and third.
This Olympia lineup was the weakest in at least 20 years.
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Jay is deff not in Dorians leauge..
Dennis Wolf should go train with the master(Dorian)..the man knows his shit ,be it training drugs etc etc
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:o
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Prime Dillet would've had a decent shot at winnings last night Olympia let alone one of the top 3 physiques ever in '93 Dorian Yates.
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I hate to bring this up but Dennis Wolf last year and Ronnie Coleman 2003 and 2001 would wipe the floor with Yates. Oh, I forgot, there was a 16 gazillion page thread about that. Sorry. Nobody can touch this....ever.
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easily
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Please don't make this yet another variation on the Ronnie Vs Dorian theme. It's a boring, played-out argument that is not relevant here.
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I hate to bring this up but Dennis Wolf last year and Ronnie Coleman 2003 and 2001 would wipe the floor with Yates. Oh, I forgot, there was a 16 gazillion page thread about that. Sorry. Nobody can touch this....ever.
LMFAO Wolf and soft Ronnie that was funny :)
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Please don't make this yet another variation on the Ronnie Vs Dorian theme. It's a boring, played-out argument that is not relevant here.
Thats the Coleman nutt-huggers they see Yates name and get RED lol they can't see anything pro-Yates
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I am waiting ND. Threads about Dorian vs Ronnie and now Wolf are fun. BTW, I was not there this year, but I was at the Olympia last year and feel that Wolf should have won with Dex or Martinez second. This year, Dex deserved to win. To the mass nuthuggers, aesthetics are back.
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I think any version Dorian from 92-97 or Ronnie from 98-2005 would have won this years show.
Dexter is awesome but those two are at the top.
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Dorian was undefeated.
Ronnie and Jay not so much.
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I am waiting ND. Threads about Dorian vs Ronnie and now Wolf are fun. BTW, I was not there this year, but I was at the Olympia last year and feel that Wolf should have won with Dex or Martinez second. This year, Dex deserved to win. To the mass nuthuggers, aesthetics are back.
You typed Wolf last year could beat Dorian 1993 when he couldn't even beat a washed up soft Ronnie for 5th place , you don't know competitive bodybuilding my friend you know what you like and thats it.
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. To the mass nuthuggers, aesthetics are back.
But dude Wolf has it all,size shape and symmetry..
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I am waiting ND. Threads about Dorian vs Ronnie and now Wolf are fun. BTW, I was not there this year, but I was at the Olympia last year and feel that Wolf should have won with Dex or Martinez second. This year, Dex deserved to win. To the mass nuthuggers, aesthetics are back.
you're simply not credible, to think that Wolf beat Dexter or Martinez last year is pure ignorance.
You have no idea to judge a physique objectively
Ps Dorian 93 would of crushed todays competition, the only man to be really compared to Dorian at his best is a prime Ronnie.
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dorian 93 would have won.
and this is coming from a non-dorian nut licker.
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Could this beat Dexter?
(http://i15.tinypic.com/6ss0dfq.jpg)
that physique never beat anybody, he never looked like that on stage
but yeah yates would beat dexter, dexter woud've been lucky to place top 6 in the 90's
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Hahah worst arms and midsection of any Olympian!
lol and of course his best shots weren't from any contest.
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lol and of course his best shots weren't from any contest.
this is true. dorian had to be offseason weight for his arms to look even close to proportioned to the rest of his body.
in dieted down form they looked way too small.
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I hate to bring this up but Dennis Wolf last year and Ronnie Coleman 2003 and 2001 would wipe the floor with Yates. Oh, I forgot, there was a 16 gazillion page thread about that. Sorry. Nobody can touch this....ever.
nico come on man, wolf has nothing on yates. nothing
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nico come on man, wolf has nothing on yates. nothing
Delta, I believe that Dorian 1993 was along with Coleman 2003 was one of the greatest and most complete physiques ever. Of course he would have won. I was just trying to light a fire under our friend ND ;D. Wolf of 2007 was the closest I have seen in person to the ideal physique besides Haney 1991. I have only been to two Mr. Olympias and Wolf blew me away in 2007. Granted, Dex is great and I believe Vic got robbed last year but I saw something very special in Wolf. However, this year he looked only very good; he got a gift if you ask me. Dorian 1993 is on the pantheon of Mr. Olympians. I still think the thickest, most complete and vascular physique ever belongs to Coleman 2003. He dwarfed everybody, and he would have dwarfed Yates (Yates is not any bigger and probably is a little smaller than Cutler). However, beside my bias (I admit...Coleman just floored me that year), Yates 1993 was an indominatable beast. 8)
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The performance that took the bodybuilding world by storm:www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpTaacEtkmQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpTaacEtkmQ) Never before or since has a physique displayed this combination of size, symmetry, structure and hardness. I still prefer 1995 because Dorian's muscles were fuller and rounder, but since he had a teared biceps that year, that represents a symmetrical liability, so there is some truth that 1993 might have been his best ever. This is arguably the only time in Olympia history that the judges stood up and applauded.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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this is true. dorian had to be offseason weight for his arms to look even close to proportioned to the rest of his body.
in dieted down form they looked way too small.
way to small? yawn ....next
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Dorian in 93 is one of the greatest bb I've seen followed by 92. Dorian out the 240s was loaded with injuries and in 1997 became that infamous bloated mess that didn't deserve Top 5.
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The performance that took the bodybuilding world by storm:www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpTaacEtkmQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpTaacEtkmQ) Never before or since has a physique displayed this combination of size, symmetry, structure and hardness. I still prefer 1995 because Dorian's muscles were fuller and rounder, but since he had a teared biceps that year, that represents a symmetrical liability, so there is some truth that 1993 might have been his best ever. This is arguably the only time in Olympia history that the judges stood up and applauded.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Yates would beat all the Olympia after him
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Yates would beat all the Olympia after him
Wrong. Dorian 1993 would be defeated by Dorian 1995. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Wrong. Dorian 1993 would be defeated by Dorian 1995. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
1993/1995 would beat Ronnie , Jay and Dexter all in one shot . none of them can match his overall package . Yates would make Ronnie 2003 look like Jay next to Jay , HUGE & SOFT
Yates = most complete
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way to small? yawn ....next
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like I said, way too small, even pre tear.
ND, you have been put in your place about this topic so many times.
dorian's arms were massive compared to you and me, but compared to his frame (and to those of his fellow competitors) they were small.
deal with it.
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way to small? yawn ....next
how sad is it that dorian's arms look probably the biggest they have ever looked when his not flexing holding a towel? ::)
or, is that one of your special photoshopped pics ND?
you have quite the reputation when it comes to shopping pics of your hero... :-\
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how sad is it that dorian's arms look probably the biggest they have ever looked when his not flexing holding a towel? ::)
or, is that one of your special photoshopped pics ND?
you have quite the reputation when it comes to shopping pics of your hero... :-\
No Dorian's arms don't look huge when viewed dead-on with a slight twist their size shows
and NO thats your game ;) Kevin Horton BUSTED YOU and Bizzy for enhancing pics not me ;) when you can get a professional graphic artist and the best contest photographer in the business to say I did then you have something until then keep trying retard ;)
just like this MM that YOU cried was photoshopped because it kills Ronnie
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like I said, way too small, even pre tear.
ND, you have been put in your place about this topic so many times.
dorian's arms were massive compared to you and me, but compared to his frame (and to those of his fellow competitors) they were small.
deal with it.
LMFAO you pick a contest when it was at among his lightest , see strawman retard ;)
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LOL I love that dorian pic because it shows how little detail he really had!
look at that flexed quad! lol my left butt cheek has more detail for fuck's sakes :o
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No Dorian's arms don't look huge when viewed dead-on with a slight twist their size shows
bingo.
big arms look big from all angles, not certain ones that create the illusion of size that isn't there.
thanks for owning yourself, HypocriticDeity.
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These pics prove NOTHING but using your retard logic Ronnie arms were ALWAYS this small you've been corrected , blah , blah , blah
his forearms blow too almost as bad as his calves maybe worse
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bingo.
big arms look big from all angles, not certain ones that create the illusion of size that isn't there.
thanks for owning yourself, HypocriticDeity.
LMFAO his arms really aren't that big they just look big? LMFAO more classic Hulkster retard logic
His arms are huge in 1993 and 1995 and he would CRUSH ANY version of Ronnie , Ronnie knows it only his ball-licking fans don't
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Ronnie's bigger arms don't mean shit , just like his narrow waist and hips
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LOL I love that dorian pic because it shows how little detail he really had!
look at that flexed quad! lol my left butt cheek has more detail for fuck's sakes
There is nothing wrong with his quads. Sure, he has less separation between the sartorious and rectus femoris than Ronnie, but he compensates this by having better hardness and calves. And if we are talking about the crab shot, Dorian has better traps and superior pec thickness, so it evens out in the end. You can pick anything about Ronnie's MM that you think it superior and use it as an argument fro why he wins this pose, and I can point out several advantages that Dorian has. Your preference does not mean he is winning the pose, Hulkster.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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There is nothing wrong with his quads. Sure, he has less definition between the sartorious and rectus femoris than Ronnie, but he compensates this by having better hardness and calves. And if we are talking about the crab shot, Dorian has better traps and superior pec thickness, so it evens out in the end. You can pick anything about Ronnie's MM that you think it superior and use it as an argument fro why he wins this pose, and I can point out several advantages that Dorian has. Your preference does not mean he is winning the pose, Hulkster.
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ha ha ha he knows he's fucked
calves are just as important in the most muscular as big biceps these retards don't care about calves and thats why they dismiss them , none of them know what judges look for. they judge contests on what THEY think wins which is exactly how they come to the conclusion Yates lost in 1993 to Flex LMFAO
We own all of them , ignorance , bias and preference is all they have left and personal attacks
the sport hasn't improved since Yates it's all gone downhill , bigger , softer , less dry , less balanced , synthol , Dorian still owns bodybuilding
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In 1993 Dorian wiped the floor with the competition and would have done the same with that condition in 2008.
Sad but true. :(
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Is this a serious question? Dorian easily beat Levrone/Flex/Nasser/Paul/etc in their respective best shapes.
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ND, why do you take this so personally. Do you know Dorian. Is he your family. You rant and piss and moan so much, it almost seems personal. ::) Dorian was great. Nobody is denying this. However, for you to dismiss Coleman in his prime is flat out stupid. Many bodybuilding scribes have said his condition in 2003 was untouchable. Read the mags. I still have the Flex and MMM edition collecting dust somewhere. Both were great. Trust me, if they met in their primes neither would dominate the other. Take a look at this video and you will see that Ronnie's calves are not small; you are an idiot with no ideo of perception. His calves appear small only because his thighs are so large. Some state that Dorian's calves overwhelmed his thighs. It is a wash. Both were great. You piss and moan more than any other person on GB. If you ever met Dorian, I suspect he would get a restraining order to keep your ass away.
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Dorian easily beat Levrone/Flex/Nasser/Paul/etc in their respective best shapes.
but not without tons of controversy and the legacy that he was a frequently gifted Mr. O:
from Muscletime.com LOL:
1992 Finland: The uncrowned Mr. Olympia of that year - Kevin Levrone
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Yates with one arm could have won
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ND, why do you take this so personally. Do you know Dorian. Is he your family. You rant and piss and moan so much, it almost seems personal. ::) Dorian was great. Nobody is denying this. However, for you to dismiss Coleman in his prime is flat out stupid. Many bodybuilding scribes have said his condition in 2003 was untouchable. Read the mags. I still have the Flex and MMM edition collecting dust somewhere. Both were great. Trust me, if they met in their primes neither would dominate the other. Take a look at this video and you will see that Ronnie's calves are not small; you are an idiot with no ideo of perception. His calves appear small only because his thighs are so large. Some state that Dorian's calves overwhelmed his thighs. It is a wash. Both were great. You piss and moan more than any other person on GB. If you ever met Dorian, I suspect he would get a restraining order to keep your ass away.
hahahahaha
excellent post!
ND = retard
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but not without tons of controversy and the legacy that he was a frequently gifted Mr. O:
from Muscletime.com LOL:
1992 Finland: The uncrowned Mr. Olympia of that year - Kevin Levrone
Muscletime has NO credibility. They say Heath is the uncrowned 08 Mr Olympia ::)
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ND, why do you take this so personally. Do you know Dorian. Is he your family. You rant and piss and moan so much, it almost seems personal. ::) Dorian was great. Nobody is denying this. However, for you to dismiss Coleman in his prime is flat out stupid. Many bodybuilding scribes have said his condition in 2003 was untouchable. Read the mags. I still have the Flex and MMM edition collecting dust somewhere. Both were great. Trust me, if they met in their primes neither would dominate the other. Take a look at this video and you will see that Ronnie's calves are not small; you are an idiot with no ideo of perception. His calves appear small only because his thighs are so large. Some state that Dorian's calves overwhelmed his thighs. It is a wash. Both were great. You piss and moan more than any other person on GB. If you ever met Dorian, I suspect he would get a restraining order to keep your ass away.
LMFAO personal you're the biggest crybaby when it comes to this topic , you've melted down to many times to mention .
and I hate to break it to you sport OLD NEWS 2003 is NOT Ronnie's prime thats YOUR ignorance coming through once again 2003 was unbeatable to jay & dex has NOTHING to do with Yates
and Ronnie's calves are huge in 03 who cares? they still lack development , detail and proportion so much for your ' wash '
Ronnie 2003 density & dryness suck compared to 1998/2001 as does his balance & proportion and they all suck no matter what year to Dorian Yates
the exact same reason Dexter beat Jay is the same reason Dorian would beat Ronnie 2003 he'd make him look soft , and unbalanced .
I don't take this personal , I don't resort to personal attacks like Hulkster , I don't meltdown , I don't use photoshopped pics like Hulkster I don't make up quotes like Hulkster , I don't refer to Ronnie as a piece of human trash like Hulkster did to Yates , when I start to act like him then its getting to me and its getting personal ;) you on the otherhand get frustrated very easy with this topic I can dig up some of your old posts if you'd like lol
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but not without tons of controversy and the legacy that he was a frequently gifted Mr. O:
from Muscletime.com LOL:
1992 Finland: The uncrowned Mr. Olympia of that year - Kevin Levrone
There is NO controversy what so ever , I have all the coverage from 1992 everyone says Yates destroyed Kevin , Muscletime claimed Heath should have won last night with straight firsts lol so much for what they know ;)
Julian Schmidt on Dorian Yates at the 1992 Mr Olympia
There is NO ONE in the world who can touch Yates. In this show he was a brain-snapping 242 pounds , all of it expertly distributed. Against all the finalist , sensational though they were , Dorian possessed thickness and convexity in his back none can match. Even Levrone's triceps and legs , which had the bodybuilding community aflutter all year , paled in comparison with the same bodyparts on Yates. Where others might also boast size and striations , Dorian dominates them with stratifications as well. It's eerie how far this man takes the human physique.
Where is the controversy? yeah I thought so ....next
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hahahahaha
excellent post!
ND = retard
You're the retard ask Kevin Horton ;)
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Kevin Horton has told me via PM that he believes that Dorian in the way he looked 2 weeks out from the 95' Olympia would defeat any bodybuilder in the history of the sport.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Kevin Horton has told me via PM that he believes that Dorian in the way he looked 2 weeks out from the 95' Olympia would defeat any bodybuilder in the history of the sport.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
great post !
suckers
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Kevin Horton has told me via PM that he believes that Dorian in the way he looked 2 weeks out from the 95' Olympia would defeat any bodybuilder in the history of the sport.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
bwahahahahaha ::) biceps tear and all eh? ::)
yeah, and where is Kevin? oh yeah, he ran away from being owned by me thats where he is..lol
funny how Yates could never pull it all together on stage like Ronnie could.
all dorian's career best shots were in a gym LOL
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great post !
suckers
you don't want proof ???
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bwahahahahaha ::) biceps tear and all eh? ::)
yeah, and where is Kevin? oh yeah, he ran away from being owned by me thats where he is..lol
funny how Yates could never pull it all together on stage like Ronnie could.
all dorian's best showings were in a gym LOL
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he couldn't pull it together onstage? pure ignorance especially seeing he dominated on-stage ;) in 1993 he was so far above & beyond anyone and anything he didn't even need to be included in the muscularity round , no imagine if Yates tool the stage the way he appeared pre-contest? ;) he would have to unrobe backstage and win every round
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you don't want proof ???
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you think he's lying? before Horton mentioned himself that yates pre-95 Olympia was the best he ever seen him , I don't think he would lie , Hulkster's done that about a Shawn Ray quote though lol
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you think he's lying? before Horton mentioned himself that yates pre-95 Olympia was the best he ever seen him , I don't think he would lie , Hulkster's done that about a Shawn Ray quote though lol
just saying that normally you ask for proof of quotes
or is it only when a person is disagreeing with you? :P
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just saying that normally you ask for proof of quotes
or is it only when a person is disagreeing with you? :P
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Well the reason I do ask is because Hulkster got busted with the Shawn Ray quote , like he got busted with the dozens of enhanced screencaps lol
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Well the reason I do ask is because Hulkster got busted with the Shawn Ray quote , like he got busted with the dozens of enhanced screencaps lol
yeah sure I did.. ::)
Mr. I morph dorian shots:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=230546.0
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yeah sure I did.. ::)
Mr. I morph dorian shots:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=230546.0
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lmfao thats NOT morphed its the same thing Bizzy did to all of the screencaps YOU posted and I didn't do that one ;) and even if I did I'd be no worse than YOU so either way you're fucked as usual ;)
Hulkster = owned
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he would have to unrobe backstage and win every round
he did that all the time with Joe Weider...
:P
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bwahahahahaha ::) biceps tear and all eh?
yeah, and where is Kevin? oh yeah, he ran away from being owned by me thats where he is..lol
funny how Yates could never pull it all together on stage like Ronnie could.
all dorian's career best shots were in a gym LOL
A biceps represents only 3% of the Human body's muscle mass and the biceps is only fully visible in one of the mandatory poses, so it doesen't matter anyway. What about Ronnie's huge ass which ruins his entire symmetry from the back? ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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lmfao thats NOT morphed its the same thing Bizzy did to all of the screencaps YOU posted and I didn't do that one ;) and even if I did I'd be no worse than YOU so either way you're fucked as usual ;)
Hulkster = owned
so the truth comes out.
ND admits to sharpening the pic and posting it in a desperate attempt to counter the greatest ever, Ronnie Coleman..
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its bad enough that Kevin Thorton runs away rather than admits he made a mistake, now he is claiming that a man with a horribly torn and injured arm precontest is the greatest ever...
BAHWAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA
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I give you the best physique ever (sic) LOL
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so the truth comes out.
ND admits to sharpening the pic and posting it in a desperate attempt to counter the greatest ever, Ronnie Coleman..
I was going to ask if you were retarded but we've already established that , its NOT mine I made the side by side I didn't make the pic
and if I did it would be a pic I didn't post a dozen times before and one you couldn't compare it to ;)
you on the otherhand were busted by a professional graphic artist and the best contest photographer in the business lol next
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its bad enough that Kevin Thorton runs away rather than admits he made a mistake, now he is claiming that a man with a horribly torn and injured arm precontest is the greatest ever...
BAHWAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA
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I give you the best physique ever (sic) LOL
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You're claiming these are the calves of the greatest EVER ;) whats the excuse they're not torn?
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its bad enough that Kevin Thorton runs away rather than admits he made a mistake, now he is claiming that a man with a horribly torn and injured arm precontest is the greatest ever...
BAHWAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA
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I give you the best physique ever (sic) LOL
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he didn't say that physique , he said right before the contest ;) you comprehension skills leave a lot to be desired lol
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I was going to ask if you were retarded but we've already established that , its NOT mine I made the side by side I didn't make the pic
and if I did it would be a pic I didn't post a dozen times before and one you couldn't compare it to ;)
you on the otherhand were busted by a professional graphic artist and the best contest photographer in the business lol next
psst. no one believes you ND.
everyone knows you sharpened the pic and tried to pass it off as legit.
hope this helps.
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he didn't say that physique , he said right before the contest ;) you comprehension skills leave a lot to be desired lol
WTF
he said that physique could beat any bb in history of the sport.
we dont have those shots but we have the horrible arm shots from 95 and they probably look BETTER than the precontest shots LOL
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LOL and you agree with this guy LOL
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psst. no one believes you ND.
everyone knows you sharpened the pic and tried to pass it off as legit.
hope this helps.
Ha Ha Ha forced to try and speak for everyone again NO ONE cares
Hulkster tried to pass of dozens of Bizzy's enhanced screencaps as ' overwhelming proof ' Kevin Horton exposed you now you're trying to deflect , exactly the same reason you reduced to personal attacks because you have nothing as usual ;)
Dorian can't be the best bodybuilding in the world because one bicep is shorter than the other and yet Ronnie his with TWO missing calves that lack everything
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WTF
he said that physique could beat any bb in history of the sport.
we dont have those shots but we have the horrible arm shots from 95 and they probably look BETTER than the precontest shots LOL
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LOL and you agree with this guy LOL
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I'll tell you what Hulkster just because he states it doesn't make it true , that's the difference between you and I , I can accept it for what it is a opinion on a subjective topic , you on the otherhand clings to quotes saying Ronnie would beat Yates but when Yates' is concerned they're junk lol
HYPOCRITE thats what you are
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Dorian would beat Ronnie because he carries more muscular bulk , he has better balance & proportion and his density & dryness are much better , he's also better at posing & presentation . thats my dimwitted retarded friend is NOT subjective ;)
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I'll tell you what Hulkster just because he states it doesn't make it true , that's the difference between you and I , I can accept it for what it is a opinion on a subjective topic , you on the otherhand clings to quotes saying Ronnie would beat Yates but when Yates' is concerned they're junk lol
HYPOCRITE thats what you are
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this coming someone famous for shoving quote after quote after quote down everyone's throats and assuming them all to be 100% true
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this coming someone famous for shoving quote after quote after quote down everyone's throats and assuming them all to be 100% true
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No wrong again , I always said they don't make them true on subjective matters , however who was harder & drier was NOT subjective ;) when McGough states Ronnie was NEVER harder or drier than Yates that's LAW as far as your concerned , he's right on the money too he called Dexter winning the show this year lol
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Why not have this argument on the truce thread?
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Why not have this argument on the truce thread?
because I'm not there so the truce thread follows me like lost little puppies to every single thread I type in lol they need MY attention
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Why not have this argument on the truce thread?
ND ran away from that thread like a little pussy. He lost and he knew it.
he fears me.
just like Kevin Thorton does... he ran away too.
birds of a feather, like to flock together LOL
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ND ran away from that thread like a little pussy. He lost and he knew it.
he fears me.
just like Kevin Thorton does... he ran away too.
birds of a feather, like to flock together LOL
Hulkster I fear NOTHING you ever typed or your photoshopped screencaps ;) I could leave my opinion to stand on its own two feet YOU can't ;) you keep trying to prove to ME
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yates ronnie even flex flex leverone and ray would have won at their best, Dexter was Dexter, no difference Jay was off and isnt as good as those mentioned.
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because I'm not there so the truce thread follows me like lost little puppies to every single thread I type in lol they need MY attention
Trust me ND. Nobody with an ounce of intelligence would follow you. You blather on and on about Yates. He had plenty of faults. His chest was weak compared to Coleman. His biceps were awful. His symmetry was non-existent after 1993 (although he was great in 1995, but I digress). Every bodybuilder has faults. Jay in 2006 looked very good; he deserved to win. He would have beaten Yates 2004, 2006 and 2007 without question. He is simply bigger with better striations. Jay of 2008 is a toaster. Dorian of 1997 was old and very close to losing if somebody would have come into the show in shape. If you think a 1993 could stand next to a 2003 Coleman and not get dwarfed you are an idiot. Dorian was 255 pounds. Ronnie was 286 pounds and every bit has striated. In fact, I would say that Ronnie had over 30 pounds of muscle on Dorian; I would bet you that their bodyfats were each less than 4-5%. Yes, it is debatable about who the judges would pick. I grant anyone that bodybuilding is a subjective, not objective, sport. Thus, a pro-Ronnie judging panel would have given him the show; same with Yates. After 1995 Dorian looked like shit. That is why he retired early. His receptors to drugs were failing and he came in looking a shadow of his former self (shadow of his former self...I amuse myself). At least he had the brains to get out before he got his ass handed to him. Ronnie stayed around a year too long.
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Hulkster I fear NOTHING you ever typed or your photoshopped screencaps ;) I could leave my opinion to stand on its own two feet YOU can't ;) you keep trying to prove to ME
..says the cowardly loser who runs away LOL
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Trust me ND. Nobody with an ounce of intelligence would follow you. You blather on and on about Yates. He had plenty of faults. His chest was weak compared to Coleman. His biceps were awful. His symmetry was non-existent after 1993
exactly.
but ND is too dense to get this.
everyone alway tells him this, shows him this, but he is just too damn dumb (or infatuated?)
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Trust me ND. Nobody with an ounce of intelligence would follow you. You blather on and on about Yates. He had plenty of faults. His chest was weak compared to Coleman. His biceps were awful. His symmetry was non-existent after 1993 (although he was great in 1995, but I digress). Every bodybuilder has faults. Jay in 2006 looked very good; he deserved to win. He would have beaten Yates 2004, 2006 and 2007 without question. He is simply bigger with better striations. Jay of 2008 is a toaster. Dorian of 1997 was old and very close to losing if somebody would have come into the show in shape. If you think a 1993 could stand next to a 2003 Coleman and not get dwarfed you are an idiot. Dorian was 255 pounds. Ronnie was 286 pounds and every bit has striated. In fact, I would say that Ronnie had over 30 pounds of muscle on Dorian; I would bet you that their bodyfats were each less than 4-5%. Yes, it is debatable about who the judges would pick. I grant anyone that bodybuilding is a subjective, not objective, sport. Thus, a pro-Ronnie judging panel would have given him the show; same with Yates. After 1995 Dorian looked like shit. That is why he retired early. His receptors to drugs were failing and he came in looking a shadow of his former self (shadow of his former self...I amuse myself). At least he had the brains to get out before he got his ass handed to him. Ronnie stayed around a year too long.
meltdown ;)
thanks for playing , we have some lovely parting gifts for you
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..says the cowardly loser who runs away LOL
says the puppy who follows me around and hangs on MY every word I own you , you're in my pocket ;)
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“WORDS OF WISDOM” by Milos Sarcev (April issue) Jan 15th
“ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!”
Q. Milos, what do you think about the results of the 2003 Mr. Olympia? I remember reading your prediction in Flex that Ronnie Coleman would lose his crown. Needless to say, Ronnie totally dominated all competition, and convincingly won his sixth ‘Olympia title.
After the show I logged onto your website bulletin board, to read your comments, expecting a public apology to Ronnie, but instead you wrote: “If I was a judge, I would have put one guy in front of him?”
Who is this person and why was he better than Ronnie?
Marc Tepple e-mail
A. First of all let me emphasize that I consider Ronnie Coleman my personnel friend, someone I love, and respect very much. Ronnie, and I actually turned professional at the exact same time, and competed together for over a decade. I personally witnessed first hand his rise to the top, and believe me, I was (and still am) ecstatic about his success, which couldn’t happen to a nicer or more deserving person. Ronnie Coleman is simply a great person, and I mean that, in the true sense of the word, both as a bodybuilder and as a wonderful human being.
I must admit he looked beyond incredible at this year’s Mr. Olympia, and he won by a unanimous judging decision, (perfect scores from every judge in every round) and that my friend is totally unbelievable!
I will never forget (October 25th 2003) the moment when Ronnie first stepped on the stage, because it seemed that all sense of time had stopped for a moment. Everyone was in a state of complete shock, and an eerie silence was broken only by the whispers of sheer disbelief!
No human EVER looked like that! EVER!
Reportedly, he weighed in around 290 pounds (over 130 kilos) at a height of 5’ 11” (179cm), and it is my guess that he was actually below 3% body fat! His conditioning was simply superb, and his muscle mass absolutely unmatched.
But, did he deserve to win? Well, few would argue, and personally, I felt just like every judge did. I was witnessing the current Mr. Olympia in tremendous condition, but carrying 40 extra pounds of ripped muscle. I realized then and there that Ronnie Coleman was simply unbeatable!
But then, I felt myself thinking the way IFBB judges do, which is making us believe that bigger is better, however as a friend of Ronnie, and also a fan, I was happy to notice an overwhelmingly impression from almost everyone, that he would easily win the title again.
In fact, everyone I talked to told me the same thing. The sky is blue. The grass is green, and Ronnie Coleman is still Mr. Olympia.
Chris Lund who I consider to be a great expert in our sport of bodybuilding, told me that Ronnie is simply the best bodybuilder he has ever seen, or photographed, and he has seen everybody, during the last 35 years.
Most IFBB officials, professional athletes and judges, also told me that Ronnie was untouchable, so naturally I found myself in agreement with them, at that time, and I am still extremely pleased that he won, and I am really proud of him.
But, I’ll tell you a little secret. Every year, for the last 5 years Ronnie would call me a day or two after the ‘Olympia, to ask for my honest opinion, about his victory and conditioning, at that particular show.
He knew that I would always tell him the truth, (unlike many other people in the sport) because I have courage to criticize, and have no problem expressing my opinion. Complements are always nice to hear, and naturally everybody always loves to hear them, but really how many people truly mean what they say? It is very easy to give a compliment which means that the recipient will most certainly enjoy hearing it. Critique on the other hand, doesn’t sit well with most people, especially bodybuilders, after a contest, or during a photo shoot. Just ask Chris Lund!
On the other hand, there were occasions, when I simply had to tell Ronnie that he was lucky to win. In other words, there were times when I didn’t think he deserved to win the Mr. Olympia!
This is from another thread about Dex and deserving to win earlier. As I said, Milos who competed during both of their reigns knows who was the king. As he so articulately states, when on Ronnie was unbeatable. When off, well Ronnie was not so great. Same can be said about Dorian the one armed Olympia.
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“WORDS OF WISDOM” by Milos Sarcev (April issue) Jan 15th
“ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!”
Q. Milos, what do you think about the results of the 2003 Mr. Olympia? I remember reading your prediction in Flex that Ronnie Coleman would lose his crown. Needless to say, Ronnie totally dominated all competition, and convincingly won his sixth ‘Olympia title.
After the show I logged onto your website bulletin board, to read your comments, expecting a public apology to Ronnie, but instead you wrote: “If I was a judge, I would have put one guy in front of him?”
Who is this person and why was he better than Ronnie?
Marc Tepple e-mail
A. First of all let me emphasize that I consider Ronnie Coleman my personnel friend, someone I love, and respect very much. Ronnie, and I actually turned professional at the exact same time, and competed together for over a decade. I personally witnessed first hand his rise to the top, and believe me, I was (and still am) ecstatic about his success, which couldn’t happen to a nicer or more deserving person. Ronnie Coleman is simply a great person, and I mean that, in the true sense of the word, both as a bodybuilder and as a wonderful human being.
I must admit he looked beyond incredible at this year’s Mr. Olympia, and he won by a unanimous judging decision, (perfect scores from every judge in every round) and that my friend is totally unbelievable!
I will never forget (October 25th 2003) the moment when Ronnie first stepped on the stage, because it seemed that all sense of time had stopped for a moment. Everyone was in a state of complete shock, and an eerie silence was broken only by the whispers of sheer disbelief!
No human EVER looked like that! EVER!
Reportedly, he weighed in around 290 pounds (over 130 kilos) at a height of 5’ 11” (179cm), and it is my guess that he was actually below 3% body fat! His conditioning was simply superb, and his muscle mass absolutely unmatched.
But, did he deserve to win? Well, few would argue, and personally, I felt just like every judge did. I was witnessing the current Mr. Olympia in tremendous condition, but carrying 40 extra pounds of ripped muscle. I realized then and there that Ronnie Coleman was simply unbeatable!
But then, I felt myself thinking the way IFBB judges do, which is making us believe that bigger is better, however as a friend of Ronnie, and also a fan, I was happy to notice an overwhelmingly impression from almost everyone, that he would easily win the title again.
In fact, everyone I talked to told me the same thing. The sky is blue. The grass is green, and Ronnie Coleman is still Mr. Olympia.
Chris Lund who I consider to be a great expert in our sport of bodybuilding, told me that Ronnie is simply the best bodybuilder he has ever seen, or photographed, and he has seen everybody, during the last 35 years.
Most IFBB officials, professional athletes and judges, also told me that Ronnie was untouchable, so naturally I found myself in agreement with them, at that time, and I am still extremely pleased that he won, and I am really proud of him.
But, I’ll tell you a little secret. Every year, for the last 5 years Ronnie would call me a day or two after the ‘Olympia, to ask for my honest opinion, about his victory and conditioning, at that particular show.
He knew that I would always tell him the truth, (unlike many other people in the sport) because I have courage to criticize, and have no problem expressing my opinion. Complements are always nice to hear, and naturally everybody always loves to hear them, but really how many people truly mean what they say? It is very easy to give a compliment which means that the recipient will most certainly enjoy hearing it. Critique on the other hand, doesn’t sit well with most people, especially bodybuilders, after a contest, or during a photo shoot. Just ask Chris Lund!
On the other hand, there were occasions, when I simply had to tell Ronnie that he was lucky to win. In other words, there were times when I didn’t think he deserved to win the Mr. Olympia!
This is from another thread about Dex and deserving to win earlier. As I said, Milos who competed during both of their reigns knows who was the king. As he so articulately states, when on Ronnie was unbeatable. When off, well Ronnie was not so great. Same can be said about Dorian the one armed Olympia.
Did you actually read that? LOL he's saying Dexter should have won in 2003
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Trust me ND. Nobody with an ounce of intelligence would follow you. You blather on and on about Yates. He had plenty of faults. His chest was weak compared to Coleman. His biceps were awful. His symmetry was non-existent after 1993 (although he was great in 1995, but I digress). Every bodybuilder has faults. Jay in 2006 looked very good; he deserved to win. He would have beaten Yates 2004, 2006 and 2007 without question. He is simply bigger with better striations. Jay of 2008 is a toaster. Dorian of 1997 was old and very close to losing if somebody would have come into the show in shape. If you think a 1993 could stand next to a 2003 Coleman and not get dwarfed you are an idiot. Dorian was 255 pounds. Ronnie was 286 pounds and every bit has striated. In fact, I would say that Ronnie had over 30 pounds of muscle on Dorian; I would bet you that their bodyfats were each less than 4-5%. Yes, it is debatable about who the judges would pick. I grant anyone that bodybuilding is a subjective, not objective, sport. Thus, a pro-Ronnie judging panel would have given him the show; same with Yates. After 1995 Dorian looked like shit. That is why he retired early. His receptors to drugs were failing and he came in looking a shadow of his former self (shadow of his former self...I amuse myself). At least he had the brains to get out before he got his ass handed to him. Ronnie stayed around a year too long.
did you actually type Jay would beat Dorian? LMFAO I glanced over this nonsense quickly and man you're way , way out there lol
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His conditioning was simply superb
are you idiots (ND and Suckmyasshole) reading this?
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LOL
no fucking contest.
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Why not have this argument on the truce thread?
I agree that them arguing is boring but Hulkster always instigates it, always. He follows ND around and he is fucking douche who turns anything about Dorian into a Coleman v ronnie deal. It's always him and fat pumpster. ND posts on other topics but Hulkster ONLY posts about Dorian or Ronnie and is an attention seeker troll. ND shoulddn't bite but he never starts it.
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are you idiots (ND and Suckmyasshole) reading this?
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For that SIZE
OLD NEWS dummy it pales in comparison to 1998/2001 which is exactly its not considered his best
Ronnie what was your best Olympia? I would say my first because my conditioning was SPOT-ON
get it?
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anyone else think that ronnie's forearms in 2003 were larger than dorian's UPPER arms in 1992?:
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I agree that them arguing is boring but Hulkster always instigates it, always. He follows ND around and he is fucking douche who turns anything about Dorian into a Coleman v ronnie deal. It's always him and fat pumpster. ND posts on other topics but Hulkster ONLY posts about Dorian or Ronnie and is an attention seeker troll. ND shoulddn't bite but he never starts it.
Great post ! dead on
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I agree that them arguing is boring but Hulkster always instigates it, always. He follows ND around and he is fucking douche who turns anything about Dorian into a Coleman v ronnie deal. It's always him and fat pumpster. ND posts on other topics but Hulkster ONLY posts about Dorian or Ronnie and is an attention seeker troll. ND shoulddn't bite but he never starts it.
meltdown as our friend the coward would say.. 8)
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anyone else think that ronnie's forearms in 2003 were larger than dorian's UPPER arms in 1992?:
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ha ha ha MELTDOWN he's reduced to posting shots from 1992
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meltdown as our friend the coward would say.. 8)
Yeah exactly the response you type whenever anyone calls you out on your bullshit , keep typing MY name kid
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meltdown as our friend the coward would say.. 8)
you are obsessed with him. all your posts are about ND, Ronnie or Dorian (who you hate as he destroyed coleman everytime they competed)
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you are obsessed with him. all your posts are about ND, Ronnie or Dorian (who you hate as he destroyed coleman everytime they competed)
True.
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you are obsessed with him. all your posts are about ND, Ronnie or Dorian (who you hate as he destroyed coleman everytime they competed)
he needs to TRY and equal the score he rants & raves about how I'm so crazy , yet in every single post and every single thread he tried to PROVE to me he's right , I left well enough alone , he can't what does that tell you?
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you are obsessed with him. all your posts are about ND, Ronnie or Dorian (who you hate as he destroyed coleman everytime they competed)
why would I hate dorian?
he never beat Ronnie.
he beat a ronnie that everyone else beat.
not the "unbeatable' Ronnie that everyone always talks about.
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why would I hate dorian?
he never beat Ronnie.
he beat a ronnie that everyone else beat.
not the "unbeatable' Ronnie that everyone always talks about.
No when you type Dorian is a piece of human trash I would say that you hate him ;) you're a biased troll and I'm so far in your head you need to seek revenge
Kevin Horton was right when he called you a retard
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Yates 1993 would win with ease
Agreed X 100
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No when you type Dorian is a piece of human trash
I never said that. I never insulted dorian the person ever.
I said his physique RESEMBLED a garbage can with twigs, which it does in some (actually many lol) angles.. 8)
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Did you actually read that? LOL he's saying Dexter should have won in 2003
ND...dipshit...Everyone including Chris Lund stated he was unbeatable in 2003. Milos was talking about other years likely 2000 and 2002 when he said Coleman was lucky to win. Trust me, a alltime best Cutler would rip Yates a new ass from 1992, 1994, 1997 and even 1996. Yates was on in 1993 and 1995. He sucked and got out quickly after his gift win in 1997. You my friend are a clown. Re-read the thread.
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BTW, I appreciate Yates and consider him great. You have never given Ronnie his due. Even when it is obvious that he is the best, you start spewing your pro-Yates crap. You are as bad as an Obama supporter. Regardless, the fact of the matter is that they were both great. Give Dex credit. He technically carries more muscle weight than either of them if you consider his height and weight. Anybody who calls him a midget has never met him in person. The man is jacked.
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You have never given Ronnie his due. Even when it is obvious that he is the best, you start spewing your pro-Yates crap.
yup. and he feels the need to photoshop dorian pics to put up against ronnie too... ::)
even ND knows deep down inside that ronnie owns dorian when ronnie is at his best.
so he needs to manipulate dorian pics to have him even stand a chance...
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ND...dipshit...Everyone including Chris Lund stated he was unbeatable in 2003. Milos was talking about other years likely 2000 and 2002 when he said Coleman was lucky to win. Trust me, a alltime best Cutler would rip Yates a new ass from 1992, 1994, 1997 and even 1996. Yates was on in 1993 and 1995. He sucked and got out quickly after his gift win in 1997. You my friend are a clown. Re-read the thread.
Did you miss this thread? did you?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=237938.0
Dexter's victory is long overdue...IMHO - since Mr. O'03
So again thanks for playing ;)
Oh and now you've been reduced to Jay at his all-time best would beat Dorian at his worse LMFAO great logic ::) Dorian at his all-time best would beat Coleman NEVERMIND Jay or Wolf , Dorian at his worse would beat Jay Cutler with ease no if ands or buts about it , at his worse he still was 10 X harder & drier than Jay
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BTW, I appreciate Yates and consider him great. You have never given Ronnie his due. Even when it is obvious that he is the best, you start spewing your pro-Yates crap. You are as bad as an Obama supporter. Regardless, the fact of the matter is that they were both great. Give Dex credit. He technically carries more muscle weight than either of them if you consider his height and weight. Anybody who calls him a midget has never met him in person. The man is jacked.
Again you're so full of it , I give Ronnie his due thats lie #1 on your part , he gets all the credit in the world for looking fantastic in 1998/2001 and I hate to break it to you fan-boy 2003 is NOT his best not by a long shot and what the hell are you talking about? give Dex credit? you must have me mixed up with someone else because I never called him a midget ??? you can't even keep your story straight
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I think it's funny that Nicorulez starts his posts with an insult and then proceeds to claim that we are fanatically and aggressively defending Dorian and that we should lighten up and stop defending a bodybuilder because only an obsessive would do that, even though we are not the ones making the insults and even though he defends Ronnie even more rabidly and forcefully than we do. Pot, kettle, black?
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yup. and he feels the need to photoshop dorian pics to put up against ronnie too... ::)
even ND knows deep down inside that ronnie owns dorian when ronnie is at his best.
so he needs to manipulate dorian pics to have him even stand a chance...
Stop out right lying you ' retard ' I never photoshopped ' pics ' or a single picture . you're a flat out liar and have been reduced to lying because you know you have nothing as usual
fact a professional graphic artist busted YOU using photoshopped pictures and dozens of them
fact Kevin Horton busted YOU using photoshooped pictures and dozens of them
fact I busted YOU lying about a quote from Shawn Ray
fact Kevin Horton said YOU seriously compromised your credibility in posting these enhanced screencaps
fact YOU follow me around like a lost puppy trying to get revenge for all the times I kicked your ass
Hulkster = a lying ' retard ' who is owned ;)
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Using enhanced photos is one thing. But, making up quotes? How pathetic are you hulkster? :-\
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Did you miss this thread? did you?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=237938.0
Dexter's victory is long overdue...IMHO - since Mr. O'03
So again thanks for playing ;)
Oh and now you've been reduced to Jay at his all-time best would beat Dorian at his worse LMFAO great logic ::) Dorian at his all-time best would beat Coleman NEVERMIND Jay or Wolf , Dorian at his worse would beat Jay Cutler with ease no if ands or buts about it , at his worse he still was 10 X harder & drier than Jay
Dorian at his worse would beat Jay Cutler, at his worse he still was 10 X harder & drier than Jay. Agreed X 100
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I think it's funny that Nicorulez starts his posts with an insult and then proceeds to claim that we are fanatically and aggressively defending Dorian and that we should lighten up and stop defending a bodybuilder because only an obsessive would do that, even though we are not the ones doing the insults and even though he defends Ronnie even more rabidly and forcefully than we do. Pot, kettle, black?
;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
He projects as well , he says I take this to seriously and then proceeds with multiple meltdown threads claiming Jay & Wolf would beat Dorian LMFAO and Hulkster the ' retard ' lying out right about me photoshopping pics when he made a career out of using worked screencaps , he's the biggest hypocrite on here , even if it were true I would have done nothing worse than he did for MONTHS and months , now he's reduced to lying & bad mouthing me to gain converts in hopes that will validate his ignorance , he always seeks comfort in numbers
it absolutely KILLS him Ronnie said on 3 separate occasions Dorian would beat him because he doesn't get Dorian , Ronnie does , Ronnie knows how great Yates was even if his ball-licking fans don't
When asked if Jay could ever beat him Ronnie says , Jay must be on crack to ever think he could beat me , he better be re-born with better genetics
When asked if Dorian could beat him Ronnie says I don't think so , I KNOW SO lol all they have left is excuses and tears
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He projects as well , he says I take this to seriously and then proceeds with multiple meltdown threads claiming Jay & Wolf would beat Dorian LMFAO and Hulkster the ' retard ' lying out right about me photoshopping pics when he made a career out of using worked screencaps , he's the biggest hypocrite on here , even if it were true I would have done nothing worse than he did for MONTHS and months , now he's reduced to lying & bad mouthing me to gain converts in hopes that will validate his ignorance , he always seeks comfort in numbers
it absolutely KILLS him Ronnie said on 3 separate occasions Dorian would beat him because he doesn't get Dorian , Ronnie does , Ronnie knows how great Yates was even if his ball-licking fans don't
When asked if Jay could ever beat him Ronnie says , Jay must be on crack to ever think he could beat me , he better be re-born with better genetics
When asked if Dorian could beat him Ronnie says I don't think so , I KNOW SO lol all they have left is excuses and tears
Simple fact - Ronnie and Dorian at their best would make a good olympia. Jay vs Dorian at their best would be a landslide in Dorian's favour.
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He projects as well , he says I take this to seriously and then proceeds with multiple meltdown threads claiming Jay & Wolf would beat Dorian LMFAO and Hulkster the ' retard ' lying out right about me photoshopping pics when he made a career out of using worked screencaps , he's the biggest hypocrite on here , even if it were true I would have done nothing worse than he did for MONTHS and months , now he's reduced to lying & bad mouthing me to gain converts in hopes that will validate his ignorance , he always seeks comfort in numbers
it absolutely KILLS him Ronnie said on 3 separate occasions Dorian would beat him because he doesn't get Dorian , Ronnie does , Ronnie knows how great Yates was even if his ball-licking fans don't
When asked if Jay could ever beat him Ronnie says , Jay must be on crack to ever think he could beat me , he better be re-born with better genetics
When asked if Dorian could beat him Ronnie says I don't think so , I KNOW SO lol all they have left is excuses and tears
I must say, though, that the return of one of our old antagonists from the Truce Thread, after almost a year without making Dorian vs Ronnie posts, reminded me of the other old antagonists from the Truce Thread. Like PraetorPhoenix. Where is Starcraft boy? If I can recall correctly, he played 6 hours of Starcraft daily, which immediately made his credentials for discussing bodybuilding nil. That guy was second-to-none in his ability to pull unsubstantiated crap from his deluded mind and use it as "evidence" for why Ronnie is better, like that "muscle maturity" was a part of the official I.F.B.B judging criteria. Coleman fans are truly entertaining. I have had one hell of a time since the whole Dorian vs Ronnie debates started in early 2005 and especially since that giant thread was started.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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way to small? yawn ....next
Wow two pics with a trick of the angle in their favour. Tris good when mashed against rest of body.
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Is that a serious question? I mean, I'm more than happy that Dex won, he deserved it completely, he was by far the most complete Bber on that stage. But '93 Yates is just in another league. That showing was one of the most impressive ever. He would have won without even flexing his muscles.
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Stop out right lying you ' retard ' I never photoshopped ' pics ' or a single picture . you're a flat out liar and have been reduced to lying because you know you have nothing as usual
fact a professional graphic artist busted YOU using photoshopped pictures and dozens of them
fact Kevin Horton busted YOU using photoshooped pictures and dozens of them
fact I busted YOU lying about a quote from Shawn Ray
fact Kevin Horton said YOU seriously compromised your credibility in posting these enhanced screencaps
fact YOU follow me around like a lost puppy trying to get revenge for all the times I kicked your ass
Hulkster = a lying ' retard ' who is owned ;)
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=230546.0
deal with it.
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Dexter never competed against Dorian but he was beaten many times by Flex Wheeler, Shawn Ray, Kevin Leverone, &, Nasser.. Non of these guys could ever beat Dorian so logically it was impossible for Dexester too to beat Dorian.. Yes Dexter may have improved a little bit than the time he was beaten by these guys but still not to the extent to go with Dorian.. Not only Dorian but also any of the top guys of the 90s at his best could easily beat Dexter..
Dexter will be another Chris Dickerson or Franco Colombo but will never be the next Lee Haney or Ronnie Coleman.. The olympia now is waiting for a new outstanding champ to rule.. Till this happens, guys like Jay Cutler and Dexter will keep exchanging the title..
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Dorian was undefeated.
Ronnie and Jay not so much.
I'll say it once and leave it cause the Dorian/Ronnie subject is...... ::)
Ronnie-8 Sandows
Dorian 5 Sandows
Jay 2 Sandows * the first one questionable and the last an early Christmas gift!
_Congrats to Dex and thank goodness. I think Jay was used to unseat Ronnie but after that few people cared. Wasn't he supposed to be "a much better spokes person for bodybuilding and the Olympia" than Ronnie? How'd that work out?
At least Ronnie's training videos were entertaining and inspirational! :)
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I'll say it once and leave it cause the Dorian/Ronnie subject is...... ::)
Ronnie-8 Sandows
Dorian 5 Sandows
Jay 2 Sandows * the first one questionable and the last an early Christmas gift!
_Congrats to Dex and thank goodness. I think Jay was used to unseat Ronnie but after that few people cared. Wasn't he supposed to be "a much better spokes person for bodybuilding and the Olympia" than Ronnie? How'd that work out?
At least Ronnie's training videos were entertaining and inspirational! :)
dorian won 6 sandows, if you're going to make a statement atleast get your facts straight
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Can't someone just ban Hulkster and ND? The way they ruin every thread they post in trying to have the last word is pathetic.
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Can't someone just ban Hulkster and ND? The way they ruin every thread they post in trying to have the last word is pathetic.
ND is one of the best posters on here.
Hulkster is just a moron.
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Can't someone just ban Hulkster and ND? The way they ruin every thread they post in trying to have the last word is pathetic.
Did you read this thread? did I ruin this thread? NO Hulkster and his trolls buddies did , they follow me and the words Dorian Yates around like lost puppies what does that tell you? Hulkster needs the ' last word ' I left the Truce Thread 10 months ago , I left my opinion to stand on it's own two feet and these dummies went hawywire because its something they can't do , so now like lost puppies they follow me around
so get your story straight newbie ;)
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ND is one of the best posters on here.
Hulkster is just a moron.
Great post ! smart man and according to Kevin Horton , Hulkster is a retard
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=230546.0
deal with it.
Yeah I thought so , Typical Hulkster when confronted with the facts run like hell ;)
Things are really bad when one of the greatest contest photographers in the history of bodybuilding calls you a retard and exposes you for using dozens of enhanced screencaps lol
you never recovered lol
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Did you read this thread? did I ruin this thread? NO Hulkster and his trolls buddies did , they follow me and the words Dorian Yates around like lost puppies what does that tell you? Hulkster needs the ' last word ' I left the Truce Thread 10 months ago , I left my opinion to stand on it's own two feet and these dummies went hawywire because its something they can't do , so now like lost puppies they follow me around
so get your story straight newbie ;)
My story is straight, for what it is worth I'm a big Dorian fan aswell and agree with what you say. But the fact is Hulkster by his idiocy and ability to wind you up, and the way you bite when he does are ruining another thread.
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My story is straight, for what it is worth I'm a big Dorian fan aswell and agree with what you say. But the fact is Hulkster by his idiocy and ability to wind you up, and the way you bite when he does are ruining another thread.
I actually don't bite all the time but certain times I will correct him , I can leave well enough alone he can't , he ruins every thread with the name NarcissisticDeity and Dorian Yates .
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Yeah I thought so , Typical Hulkster when confronted with the facts run like hell ;)
Things are really bad when one of the greatest contest photographers in the history of bodybuilding calls you a retard and exposes you for using dozens of enhanced screencaps lol
you never recovered lol
yeah, one of the greatest photographers in history but naive enough to pick a physique with a horribly torn arm as "capable of beating anyone in the sport's history" ( ::)) and not even man enough to admit that he made a mistake.
he would rather run away like a sad little man rather than admit that he was wrong LOL
running away rather than admitting his mistake (he even had to backpedal about how the pics might have been enhanced and posted without the poster knowing LOL ::)) says a lot about Kevin.
great photographer sure.
but he has demonstrated that he is one of those people in life who will never admit they were wrong even when its obvious, and would do anything, including changing his story and running away, to avoid admiting it.
sad, but true.
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yeah, one of the greatest photographers in history but naive enough to pick a physique with a horribly torn arm as "capable of beating anyone in the sport's history" ( ::)) and not even man enough to admit that he made a mistake.
he would rather run away like a sad little man rather than admit that he was wrong LOL
running away rather than admitting his mistake (he even had to backpedal about how the pics might have been enhanced and posted without the poster knowing LOL ::)) says a lot about Kevin.
great photographer sure.
but he has demonstrated that he is one of those people in life who will never admit they were wrong even when its obvious, and would do anything, including changing his story and running away, to avoid admiting it.
sad, but true.
meltdown
you will never recover ;)
thats very , very bad when the best contest photographer responds to your post to expose you and to call you a retard LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO LOLOL
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meltdown
you will never recover ;)
thats very , very bad when the best contest photographer responds to your post to expose you and to call you a retard LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO LOLOL
yeah, and that same guy ran away when he couldnt deal with the comparison of the original caps vs the ones he was claiming were 'enhanced' LOL ::)
what does that tell you?
yeah, I though so... ::)
you should go back to that thread and look again.
When Kevin realized there was no enhancement between the first set and the Bizzy set, he took a hike.
sad, but true. once again.
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yeah, and that same guy ran away when he couldnt deal with the comparison of the original caps vs the ones he was claiming were 'enhanced' LOL ::)
what does that tell you?
yeah, I though so... ::)
you should go back to that thread and look again.
When Kevin realized there was no enhancement between the first set and the Bizzy set, he took a hike.
sad, but true. once again.
continue with your meltdown lol you'll always been known as the guy Kevin Horton called a retard LMFAO
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continue with your meltdown lol you'll always been known as the guy Kevin Horton called a retard LMFAO
who cares?
the fact that you are agreeing with his "assessment" of those caps given what is presented in that thread makes you look really bad and stupid.
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who cares?
the fact that you are agreeing with his "assessment" of those caps given what is presented in that thread makes you look really bad and stupid.
The irony of you saying anyone looks really bad and stupid LMFAO what are you going to say? he owned you in grand fashion everyone knows you're a retard the ONLY one who agree with you are your ball-licking buddies which NONE of them came to your aid when Kevin Horton owned you on lol they all took off to leave you to one of the all-time getbig ownings , Kevin Horton calling you a retard and proving Bizzy's screencaps are enhanced lol sucker
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wow. a cowardly man who ran because he couldnt come up with an answer for the comparisons of screencaps in that thread called me a retard.
I am so hurt LOL
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FUCK THAT
the Reign of big gutted freaks is over
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wow. a cowardly man who ran because he couldnt come up with an answer for the comparisons of screencaps in that thread called me a retard.
I am so hurt LOL
No, he was categorical when he left. He stated in bold that the pictures you posted were enhanced, said that there is no point arguing with a retard, and left. In his place, I would have done the same. Why should a professional photographer defend his analysis that certain pictures were shopped from a layman who claims that they weren't? Who would you believe if you were impartial in this debate, Hulkster, a professional photographer or a nobody sitting behind his computer screen?
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No, he was categorical when he left. He stated in bold that the pictures you posted were enhanced, said that there is no point arguing with a retard, and left. In his place, I would have done the same. Why should a professional photographer defend his analysis that certain pictures were shopped from a layman who claims that they weren't? Who would you believe if you were impartial in this debate, Hulkster, a professional photographer or a nobody sitting behind his computer screen?
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wow, he stated that they were, but could not prove it or come up with an answer when confronted with the pics..
yeah, he really showed us how enhanced they were LOL ::)
you guys are so stupid its incredible.
you ask who we should believe?
duh ::). the evidence presented and his actions show it all.
and he knew it so he ran.
period.
end of story.
nothing you can say is going to change that.
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Who would you believe if you were impartial in this debate, Hulkster
gee lets see:
scenario 1:
pictures compared, comparisons show no enhancement. the poster of the pics states no enhancement was done.
scenario 2:
pictures compared, pics show no enhancement but Kevin says they are 'enhanced' anyway, and runs away from the thread when shown this, will not explain the comparison, and changes his story he was proven wrong so clearly.
now you tell us, which scenario is more likely to be true.?
LOL
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you guys can't win this one.
sorry.
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I'll say this and in a friendly way: you guys need to get a life.
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dorian 93 would have won.
and this is coming from a non-dorian nut licker.
hulkster i now have a little respect for you. ;D
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how sad is it that dorian's arms look probably the biggest they have ever looked when his not flexing holding a towel? ::)
or, is that one of your special photoshopped pics ND?
you have quite the reputation when it comes to shopping pics of your hero... :-\
it is not a shopped pic i corrected you on this a long time ago. do i need to scan my m&f or flex that have those pics?
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it is not a shopped pic i corrected you on this a long time ago. do i need to scan my m&f or flex that have those pics?
I know its not a shopped pic. its been around for awhile.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=230546.0
but since ND has been exposed shopping and posting dorian shots for direct comparison against Ronnie, you never know with that idiot... ::)
I simply remind him at every chance that he is underhanded and will shop pics of dorian in a heartbeat if it means they look better against coleman..
he has done it before and will probably do it again.
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what if?
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I know its not a shopped pic. its been around for awhile.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=230546.0
but since ND has been exposed shopping and posting dorian shots for direct comparison against Ronnie, you never know with that idiot...
I simply remind him at every chance that he is underhanded and will shop pics of dorian in a heartbeat if it means they look better against coleman..
he has done it before and will probably do it again.
Dude, stop lying. He never shpped any pics - unlike you. He simply posted by mistake a pic that was shopped and he didn't know, and he apologized for it, which is far more than you ever did. Stop being such a piece of shit and admit that you are wrong.
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Dude, stop lying. He never shpped any pics - unlike you. He simply posted by mistake a pic that was shopped and he didn't know, and he apologized for it, which is far more than you ever did. Stop being such a piece of shit and admit that you are wrong.
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What's he gonna say? he was busted by a professional and not just any guy talking pics of fat-kids at Wal-Mart , by Kevin-fucking-Horton of all people , thats bad , that's very bad lol
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What's he gonna say? he was busted by a professional and not just any guy talking pics of fat-kids at Wal-Mart , by Kevin-fucking-Horton of all people , thats bad , that's very bad lol
To make it worse, Horton, who saw both Dorian and Ronnie at their absolute bests, said that Dorian 3 weeks out from the 95' Olympia at 280 lbs beats everyone in the history of bodybuilding. Including Ronnie. :D
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To make it worse, Horton, who saw both Dorian and Ronnie at their absolute bests, said that Dorian 3 weeks out from the 95' Olympia at 280 lbs beats everyone in the history of bodybuilding. Including Ronnie. :D
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Ronnie said he couldn't beat Yates , cased closed lol someone has to have pics of this photoshoot from 1995
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Ronnie said he couldn't beat Yates , cased closed lol someone has to have pics of this photoshoot from 1995
Horton does, and he promissed me he will be posting the pics soon. He mentioned that it makes Dorian in those famous black-and-white pics look like an amateur, so it must be utterly mind-blowing. I can't wait.:)
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Horton does, and he promissed me he will be posting the pics soon. He mentioned that it makes Dorian in those famous black-and-white pics look like an amateur, so it must be utterly mind-blowing. I can't wait.:)
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Cool , be prepared for tons of excuses and many more meltdowns lol
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I didn't read the entire thread since I see it's already turned into Yates vs. Ronnie.
But to answer the subject of the post, a '93 Yates would have utterly and completely destroyed everyone on stage at this years Olympia.
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Horton does, and he promissed me he will be posting the pics soon. He mentioned that it makes Dorian in those famous black-and-white pics look like an amateur, so it must be utterly mind-blowing. I can't wait.:)
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I am sure the biceps tear will be utterly mind blowing too... ::)
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hulkster just fuck off with your bullshit. you are ruining this website.
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Ronnie said he couldn't beat Yates , cased closed lol someone has to have pics of this photoshoot from 1995
but you don't believe anything ronnie says, remember? ::)
oh wait, you only selectively pick and choose which quotes to believe as long as they suit your 'agenda' LOL
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I didn't read the entire thread
But to answer the subject of the post, a '93 Yates would have utterly and completely destroyed everyone on stage at this years Olympia.
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but you don't believe anything ronnie says, remember? ::)
oh wait, you only selectively pick and choose which quotes to believe as long as they suit your 'agenda' LOL
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Wrong I agree with Ronnie when he said multiple times he couldn't beat Yates ;) and Yates had the thickest & freakiest back he ever seen ;) and the best side chest shot ;)
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hulkster just fuck off with your bullshit. you are ruining this website.
LOL okay whatever,
in case you didn't notice dorian gets bashed all the time on this board (see the best arms list today for example lol)
and not only by me.
its by lots and lots of people
getbig is a fairly anti-dorian board. just as muscletime.com feels he was very gifted and makes no mistake in pointing that out
knowledable people are going to tell the truth. even if it puts down dorian's physique. thats just the way it is.
so fuck off. >:(
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LOL okay whatever,
in case you didn't notice dorian gets bashed all the time on this board (see the best arms list today for example lol)
and not only by me.
its by lots and lots of people
so fuck off.
You're the biggest troll on here it defines you , the Mr Olympia was this past weekend you didn't comment on it just Yates lol
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You're the biggest troll on here it defines you , the Mr Olympia was this past weekend you didn't comment on it just Yates lol
this coming from the biggest Ronnie basher on the whole fucking net LOL
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this coming from the biggest Ronnie basher on the whole fucking net LOL
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I don't bash Ronnie that's a LIE I never said one single thing about the way he speaks , you on the otherhand refferd to Dorian as a piece of human trash , a block white guy , a garbage man , etc , etc , etc ,
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I don't bash Ronnie that's a LIE I never said one single thing about the way he speaks , you on the otherhand refferd to Dorian as a piece of human trash , a block white guy , a garbage man , etc , etc , etc ,
you forgot construction worker LOL
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I don't bash Ronnie that's a LIE I never said one single thing about the way he speaks , you on the otherhand refferd to Dorian as a piece of human trash , a block white guy , a garbage man , etc , etc , etc ,
first of all, I NEVER referred to him as a peice of trash.
its just that his physique is famously blocky, with famously small arms for his frame, and with his "keg" waist, he often has the "H-taper" look.
everything I have said has been STRICTLY ABOUT HIS PHYSIQUE ONLY.
nothing to do with him as a person.
I am sure he is a great guy.
but as a bb, he was overrated and gifted, just like muscletime says.. ;)
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first of all, I NEVER referred to him as a peice of trash.
its just that his physique is famously blocky, with famously small arms for his frame, and with his "keg" waist, he often has the "H-taper" look.
everything I have said has been STRICTLY ABOUT HIS PHYSIQUE ONLY.
nothing to do with him as a person.
I am sure he is a great guy.
but as a bb, he was overrated and gifted, just like muscletime says.. ;)
My ass you're the biggest basher on here period. and I'll search for your exact quote
speaking of muscletime you never answered my question ;) do you agree with them that Phil Heath won this Olympia with straight firsts lol
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My ass you're the biggest basher on here period. and I'll search for your exact quote
speaking of muscletime you never answered my question ;) do you agree with them that Phil Heath won this Olympia with straight firsts lol
I agree. Hulkster has staed that Dorian blew the judges to win in 97'. That's as personal as you can get.
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I agree. Hulkster has staed that Dorian blew the judges to win in 97'. SUCKMYMUSCLE
yup. me and about 1000 other people on this site, esp. concerning the 94 and 97 Olympias...
dorian is seen by many on this site to be vastly overrated.
and and professional photo sites like Muscletime too. and they know their stuff unlike you and ND.
hell, they dont even show dorian as the cover pic on their 92 olympia coverage.
they show Kevin Levrone, the "Uncrowned Olympia that year" LOL
Can you feel the love for dorian's phyisque? LOL
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yup. me and about 1000 other people on this site, esp. concerning the 94 and 97 Olympias...
dorian is seen by many on this site to be vastly overrated.
and and professional photo sites like Muscletime too. and they know their stuff unlike you and ND.
hell, they dont even show dorian as the cover pic on their 92 olympia coverage.
they show Kevin Levrone, the "Uncrowned Olympia that year" LOL
Can you feel the love for dorian's phyisque? LOL
Stop running from the question to you agree with Muscletime that Phil Heath won the 08 Olympia with straight firsts?
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I agree. Hulkster has staed that Dorian blew the judges to win in 97'. That's as personal as you can get.
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He claimed Ronnie DOMINATED the 2001 Olympia by losing the whole prejudging lmfao and 1998 wasn't a close contest despite just a 3 point difference , what does he know about competitive bodybuilding? nothing
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Stop running from the question to you agree with Muscletime that Phil Heath won the 08 Olympia with straight firsts?
I havent really analyzed the shots, but from what I have seen he does look better than Dex in a lot of poses
for example:
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I havent really analyzed the shots, but from what I have seen he does look better than Dex in a lot of poses
for example:
LMFAO you're using Muscletime as a ' reference ' and geuss what they're wrong as usual , wrong about Yates , wrong about Heath , so much for what Muscletime has to say LMFAO
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LMFAO you're using Muscletime as a ' reference ' and geuss what they're wrong as usual , wrong about Yates , wrong about Heath , so much for what Muscletime has to say LMFAO
your just pissed because they call out dorian as being overrated and gifted just like everyone else does and it drives you crazy... ::) ::) ::)
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your just pissed because they call out dorian as being overrated and gifted just like everyone else does and it drives you crazy... ::) ::) ::)
No it doesn't nice try , bottom line Muscletime doesn't know what they're talking about OBVIOUSLY lol you're quoting them as a source when they're dead wrong on all their assessments , NO magazine I ever read said Yates should have lost in 1992 , or 1995 , they had Phil Heath winning this past Olympia with a perfect score LMFAO what does Muscletime know? NOTHING ;) just like you
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NO magazine I ever read said Yates should have lost in 1992 , or 1995
gee. what a suprise, considering the fact that they were mostly all WEIDER magazines at the time ...
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gee. what a suprise, considering the fact that they were mostly all WEIDER magazines at the time ...
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yeah Ironman , Muscular Development and MuscleMag International were all Weider magazines ::), you're to simple to own . stop typing ' retard ' Muscletime knows nothing they had Phil Heath winning with a perfect score and where did the IFBB judges place him? third so much for what Muscletime has to say on the subject
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yeah Ironman , Muscular Development and MuscleMag International were all Weider magazines ::), you're to simple to own . stop typing ' retard ' Muscletime knows nothing they had Phil Heath winning with a perfect score and where did the IFBB judges place him? third so much for what Muscletime has to say on the subject
"Yates was shit umm cause everyone says he should win"
Fail
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"Yates was shit umm cause everyone says he should win"
Fail
exactly. ND is a complete moron who knows nothing about this sport.
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exactly. Hulkster is a complete moron who knows nothing about this sport.
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exactly. ND is a complete moron who knows nothing about this sport.
Ha Ha Ha you moron that was directed to you
and I know more about this sport than you , Neo , pumpster , iceman and Muscletime COMBINED ;)
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ha ha ha ha ha ha Great post because it's so true
he wont recover
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ha ha ha ha ha ha Great post because it's so true
he wont recover
Nothing to recover to....he was always an idiot...recover - and he is still an idiot
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most of muscletime's contest analysis is way off... however, i do agree that Phil Heath looked better than Dexter Jackson and hence should have defeated him.
1. Heath
2. Dex
3. Wolf
4. Freeman
5. Cutler
6. Silvio
Yes, the Dorian Yates of 1993 would have won the Mr. O 2008 gold medal.
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He's always been a blocky bodybuilder to me. Nothing aesthetically pleasing about him. Nothing flows. Look at some of the competitors he beat out. I'll give him '93 but the others? Levrone?
Better lines than Jay.
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Dorian 93' is only defeated by Dorian 95' on account of greater muscle fullness and by no one else in the history of bodybuilding. Just ask Kevin Horton.
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Dorian 93' is only defeated by Dorian 95' on account of greater muscle fullness and by no one else in the history of bodybuilding. Just ask Kevin Horton.
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Ronnie makes Dorian look like an underfed kitten.
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Ronnie makes Dorian look like an underfed kitten.
Too bad about the huge pregnant gut, the tiny calves, underdeveloped forearms, huge ass that ruins all back poses, shitty abs and terrible conditioning that makes him look like a water buffalo. Yeah, what a champ right there. :-\ If size were all that mattered, then Kovacs would have ten Sandows by now.
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Too bad about the huge pregnant gut, the tiny calves, underdeveloped forearms, huge ass that ruins all back poses, shitty abs and terrible conditioning that makes him look like a water buffalo. Yeah, what a champ right there. :-\ If size were all that mattered, then Kovacs would have ten Sandows by now.
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too bad about Dorian's tiny arms, tiny quads in comparison to his oversized calves, pregnant gut and lack of delts.
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too bad about Dorian's tiny arms,
Dorian's arms were much bigger than Ronnie's calves, that's for sure. And Ronnie's bigger arms were all due to his much larger biceps. Dorian's triceps were as big as Ronnie's with better shape, and Dorian's forearms were bigger than Ronnie's.
tiny quads in comparison to his oversized calves,
You got that wrong. It's Ronnie's calves that are way undersized for his huge quads and not Dorian's quads that are undersized for his calves. Dorian's calves are in perfect proportion with the quads.
pregnant gut
Lmao...compared to ronnie's gut in 2003/4 Dorian's gut was like a ballerina's.
and lack of delts.
Now you're just making shit up. Dorian's delts were great.
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It is amazing how sophomoric the criticisms of Dorian's physique made by the Coleman ball-lickers are. Why have I even dignified them nby addressing their vitriole?
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exactly. ND is a complete moron who knows nothing about this sport.
you have never been to a pro show you dont know shit stop already. yes it matters internet ronnie fan boy.
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Much thanks to the original GH gut.
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Much thanks to the original GH gut.
Actually moron this is the original GH gut ;)
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Yates 1993 would win with ease
Yeah, but that pic is from 92, isn't it?
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Yeah, but that pic is from 92, isn't it?
Standing relaxed? Nope that 1993
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boom ;D
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boom ;D
Destroyed Nasser in 1994 ;)
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Destroyed Nasser in 1994 ;)
boom ;D
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Dorian was undefeated.
Ronnie and Jay not so much.
Hammer, sorry for the late reply but Haney and Benaziza smoked Dorian. He was far from undefeated. Moreover, a couple of his wins in 96 and 97 were gifts to the nth degree. I think Gutler from his first Mr. Olympia and a couple of 2nd place finishes smoked Dorian.
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Destroyed Nasser in 1994 ;)
Yeah and the Presidency has become a popularity contest. A war hero loses to a senator from the most corrupt state in the Union. Oh well, bodybuilding contests are never fixed. ::)
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Yeah and the Presidency has become a popularity contest. A war hero loses to a senator from the most corrupt state in the Union. Oh well, bodybuilding contests are never fixed. ::)
No contests are only fixed when YOU disagree with the outcome ::) great logic
if one contest is fixed THEY ARE ALL fixed and your hero received the same treatment you can't have it both ways
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Yates in his 93 shape is still the best overall Mr Olympia winner ever, I think Ronnie in his best shape could have beaten him in a couple of his other wins but only when he was at his best and Dorian wasnt, Both at their best, Dorians would have won, as he was more complete. Ronnies lack of Calves that flex and his lack of detail to his midsection in comparsion would have been the influencing factors, im talking before before both their guts blew out, at their best only.
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Yates in his 93 shape is still the best overall Mr Olympia winner ever, I think Ronnie in his best shape could have beaten him in a couple of his other wins but only when he was at his best and Dorian wasnt, Both at their best, Dorians would have won, as he was more complete. Ronnies lack of Calves that flex and his lack of detail to his midsection in comparsion would have been the influencing factors, im talking before before both their guts blew out, at their best only.
Smart man , right on the money.
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Ronnies lack of Calves that flex and his lack of detail to his midsection in comparsion would have been the influencing factors
so, you think ronnie's lack of detail in the midsection would hurt him, but dorian's lack of detail in the arms, delts, pecs and quads wouldn't hurt him? LOL
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Please don't make this yet another variation on the Ronnie Vs Dorian theme. It's a boring, played-out argument that is not relevant here.
A lonely cry that went over deaf ears :-\
9 pages and counting
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A lonely cry that went over deaf ears :-\
9 pages and counting
Hulkster realized he's was soundly defeated by me via his own hero he's moved onto Nasser now he's your headache now lol
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so, you think ronnie's lack of detail in the midsection would hurt him, but dorian's lack of detail in the arms, delts, pecs and quads wouldn't hurt him? LOL
;D ;D ;D sorry Hulkster im not going there.
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I havent really analyzed the shots, but from what I have seen he does look better than Dex in a lot of poses
for example:
damn, Dexter's arms are dwarfing Phil's there and Heath is closer to the camera
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;D ;D ;D sorry Hulkster im not going there because I would lose to Hulkster's overwhelming sense of correctness.
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correctness? like Ronnie 99 had more detailed calves than Dorian? LMFAO
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okay Mr. dorian had better arms than Ronnie... ::) :P
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okay Mr. dorian had better arms than Ronnie... ::) :P
Better triceps & forearms absolutely ;)
Mr Ronnie 99 was better conditioned than Dorian ever was LMMFAO
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You sir are a complete retard
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You sir are a complete retard
Hulkster = owned
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this is true
NO ONE was better conditioned than Yates
While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian
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someone should tell McGough..he is blinded by his love for his friend..
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someone should tell McGough..he is blinded by his love for his friend..
Ha ha ha great ' comparison ' a screengrab from a DVD vs a compressed crummy one from Youtube ::)
that's why contests are judged live and in person you know actually being there ;) oh know you wouldn't ha ha ha ha owned
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someone should tell McGough..he is blinded by his love for his friend..
You know there is professional help available for people like you?
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Ha ha ha great ' comparison ' a screengrab from a DVD vs a compressed crummy one from Youtube ::)
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the excuses never end for you do they? ::)
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the excuses never end for you do they? ::)
No excuses needed Dorian's conditioning is legendary , Ronnie's isn't ;)
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hulkster and nd are pathetic
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No excuses needed Dorian's conditioning is legendary , Ronnie's isn't ;)
oh reallly? is that why most people feel his best ever is THE best ever?
no one ever mentions dorian as a contender for that award. ever.
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oh reallly? is that why most people feel his best ever is THE best ever?
no one ever mentions dorian as a contender for that award. ever.
Oh back to the argument ad populum huh? so Ronnie is more popular so he's better lol I can always count on you to be stupid all the time
Ronnie doesn't think he is and that matters more than ' most people ' ;)
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lol why do you think that the testimony of most pros, industry insiders, writers etc is not credible?
your fucking hero McGough even states that Ronnie (in his 2001 AC form) was the best ever.
duh.
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the excuses never end for you do they? ::)
I believe they competed against each other......no?
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lol why do you think that the testimony of most pros, industry insiders, writers etc is not credible?
your fucking hero McGough even states that Ronnie (in his 2001 AC form) was the best ever.
duh.
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McGough also said Ronnie couldn't touch Yates in conditioning but now you're clinging to his word , McGough also said Dorian at 269 would beat Ronnie 2001 and 2003 ( notice he never mentioned 1999 ;) )
You're also dimissing many people who say Yates would beat Ronnie , including Ronnie Coleman HIMSELF , Pete McGough , Lee Priest , Ernie Taylor , Kevin Horton , among others . it works two ways the only ones who matter are the judges and the judges already said Dorian is harder & drier and has better balance & proportion lol what's left size and posing? opppssss Dorian better poser too lol
the most damning is Ronnie Coleman saying on multiple occasions he would never beat Dorian , you will NEVER EVER trump this and no one else matters more than The Greatest Bodybuilder of All Time LMFAO
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I believe they competed against each other......no?
Oh sure Dorian destroyed him , year in year out lol
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I believe they competed against each other......no?
no they didn't.
Ronnie in the mid 90's was not the same Ronnie that won 8 Mr. Olympia's and an Arnold Classic 8)
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no they didn't.
Ronnie in the mid 90's was not the same Ronnie that won 8 Mr. Olympia's and an Arnold Classic 8)
And what did the Ronnie who won 8 Mr. Olympia's and an Arnold Classic say when posed the question on could he beat Dorian? yeah I thought so ;)
ouch that's gotta hurt lol
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And what did the Ronnie who won 8 Mr. Olympia's and an Arnold Classic say when posed the question on could he beat Dorian? yeah I thought so ;)
ouch that's gotta hurt lol
what difference does it make what he said when Helen Keller could tell you dorian gets crushed?:
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oh reallly? is that why most people feel his best ever is THE best ever?
Lots of people think Ronnie's best is the best ever due to Ronnie's incredible muscle fullness, striations and size with a small waist. It has nothing to do with condtioning. One again, you put a spin to suit your argument.
no one ever mentions dorian as a contender for that award. ever.
Another one of your lies. In this very thread there are posters saying Dorian 93' ws the best ever. nd Kevin Horton said Dorian 3 weeks out from the 95' Olympia defeats everyone in the history of bodybilding. Even Shawn Perrine said Dorian in those famous black-and-whites disputes with Ronnie 2001 ASC for the title of best ever. You have been served, Hulk.
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