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Title: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: The True Adonis on September 28, 2008, 07:06:32 AM
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: JOEMUSCLE on September 28, 2008, 07:15:44 AM
Sarah Palin's interviews with Charles Gibson and Katie Couric were disastrous for McCain.   We cannot have this woman a heartbeat away from the presidency.  America is finally waking up and smelling the coffee.  My Obama yard sign went up this morning.
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: The Coach on September 28, 2008, 09:07:11 AM
You'll get what you deserve if he wins. I'm already putting plans into place so he won't touch any of money he thinks he'll get out of me. As far as the security of the country..........we're going to be f**ked. And WHEN we start getting bombed on our own soil.....don't say I didn't tell you so. You could tell just by those debates he has no clue on how to protect our country.
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: The Coach on September 28, 2008, 09:08:13 AM
P.S. You libs are digging your own grave and don't even realize it.
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: qiniz on September 28, 2008, 09:16:02 AM
P.S. You libs are digging your own grave and don't even realize it.

coach, question. whats your opinion on the Clinton administration?
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: pumphard on September 28, 2008, 09:19:49 AM
Sarah Palin's interviews with Charles Gibson and Katie Couric were disastrous for McCain.   We cannot have this woman a heartbeat away from the presidency.  America is finally waking up and smelling the coffee.  My Obama yard sign went up this morning.
And as we speak, other world leaders are salivating.............. .......
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: divcom on September 28, 2008, 09:20:48 AM
The levels of protection for this country are in place.  Come up with something new.  If it's going to happen again...it will happen if McCain is in office...probably more since he'll claim war against everyone.


Who we are against according to McCain?

Spain
Cuba
Mexico
Latin America
Iran
Russia
China
North Korea

I'm not sure if he still thinks the allies are still fighting Germany and Japan

Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: Busted on September 28, 2008, 09:26:07 AM
You'll get what you deserve if he wins. I'm already putting plans into place so he won't touch any of money he thinks he'll get out of me. As far as the security of the country..........we're going to be f**ked. And WHEN we start getting bombed on our own soil.....don't say I didn't tell you so. You could tell just by those debates he has no clue on how to protect our country.

You are a real ignorant fuck you know that coach...  Tired of the GOP and their stupid ass scare mongering, ignorant ass imbred, low educated people like YOU believe that shit.... Yeah Obama is gonna let people BOMB our country? Do you hear how IGNORANT you are?  DO I need to REPOST Palins interviews?  If McCain got in and passed away we would REALLY BE FUCKED...  got a woman who is completely retarded, knows NOTHING about EVERYTHING, religious nut case, so shut your pie hole...

We are in this big fucking hole becasue of the GOP!!!!!!!!!!!  That McCain voted with 90% of the time... FACT

Yeah he was number 1 at his class in Harvard so hes dumb and doenst have enough common sense to protect us right?
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: The Coach on September 28, 2008, 09:31:43 AM
You are a real ignorant fuck you know that coach...  Tired of the GOP and their stupid ass scare mongering, ignorant ass imbred, low educated people like YOU believe that shit.... Yeah Obama is gonna let people BOMB our country? Do you hear how IGNORANT you are?  DO I need to REPOST Palins interviews?  If McCain got in and passed away we would REALLY BE FUCKED...  got a woman who is completely retarded, knows NOTHING about EVERYTHING, religious nut case, so shut your pie hole...

We are in this big fucking hole becasue of the GOP!!!!!!!!!!!  That McCain voted with 90% of the time... FACT

Yeah he was number 1 at his class in Harvard so hes dumb and doenst have enough common sense to protect us right?

Real intellegent answer you have there. I didn't say Obama is going to LET the country get bombed. I don't even think HE want s that. But cutting our military budget means lighting up on security and leaving us vulnerable for attack. Again, where he graduated doesn't mean squat.
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: CQ on September 28, 2008, 09:34:02 AM
The levels of protection for this country are in place.  Come up with something new.  If it's going to happen again...it will happen if McCain is in office...probably more since he'll claim war against everyone.


Who we are against according to McCain?

Spain
Cuba
Mexico
Latin America
Iran
Russia
China
North Korea

I'm not sure if he still thinks the allies are still fighting Germany and Japan



McCain is againest everyone, it's like his big dream is to get in and bomb the world to smithereens.
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 28, 2008, 09:34:45 AM
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

You do realize that Carter and Mondal were bothy ahead of regan at one point too?????

We are not elected by a national poll, but the electoral college.  I guess that is too much to absorb for most Obama worshippers.
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on September 28, 2008, 09:38:23 AM
You do realize that Carter and Mondal were bothy ahead of regan at one point too?????

We are not elected by a national poll, but the electoral college.  I guess that is too much to absorb for most Obama worshippers.

http://www.pollster.com/
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 28, 2008, 09:38:43 AM
You are a real ignorant fuck you know that coach...  Tired of the GOP and their stupid ass scare mongering, ignorant ass imbred, low educated people like YOU believe that shit.... Yeah Obama is gonna let people BOMB our country? Do you hear how IGNORANT you are?  DO I need to REPOST Palins interviews?  If McCain got in and passed away we would REALLY BE FUCKED...  got a woman who is completely retarded, knows NOTHING about EVERYTHING, religious nut case, so shut your pie hole...

We are in this big fucking hole becasue of the GOP!!!!!!!!!!!  That McCain voted with 90% of the time... FACT

Yeah he was number 1 at his class in Harvard so hes dumb and doenst have enough common sense to protect us right?

Wow.  I did not know that Barney Frank, Dodd, gorelick, Franklin Raines, were a;; republicans who controled fanny and freddy.  Thanks for sharing that.

The fact of the matter is that only a liberal moron blames everything on .Bush.  The banks, the congress, the mortgage brokers, realtors, appraisers, and the moron borrowers caused this.  Blaming one person is just stupid.  

BTW - ZERO has nothing to his record showing he is capable of even running a garage sale.
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 28, 2008, 09:42:13 AM
http://www.pollster.com/

The cult of the messiah is unreal in their ball licking of this clown.  He is token candidate.  Another liberal lawyer like kerry and edwards.

I want all the obama worshippers on this board to explain the association with William Ayeres and Rev. Wright.  Who eles on this board knows a self admitted domestic terrorist and racist hate monger like Rev. Wright????
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: 240 is Back on September 28, 2008, 09:45:43 AM
Coach,

I think you're correct in guarding your $ from Obama.

But in terms of "we'll get bombed here if he wins", i disagree.

First off, he's offering diplomacy as a solution instead of cowboy justice.  This lessens the resentment, which the CIA says did lead to 911.  Second, he's actually MORE proactive on getting terrorists than mccain is. 

Bush, Palin, and Obama have all said (this week!) that we'll be going into pakistan to kill bad guys when we see them.

Mccain said (this week!) that we will not.  We'll let Pakistan do it (even though they haven't been able to capture Bin Laden in 7 years despite us pretty much knowing his location).
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: The Coach on September 28, 2008, 09:52:28 AM
Coach,

I think you're correct in guarding your $ from Obama.

But in terms of "we'll get bombed here if he wins", i disagree.

First off, he's offering diplomacy as a solution instead of cowboy justice.  This lessens the resentment, which the CIA says did lead to 911.  Second, he's actually MORE proactive on getting terrorists than mccain is. 

Bush, Palin, and Obama have all said (this week!) that we'll be going into pakistan to kill bad guys when we see them.

Mccain said (this week!) that we will not.  We'll let Pakistan do it (even though they haven't been able to capture Bin Laden in 7 years despite us pretty much knowing his location).


Diplomacy doesn't work for a country that wakes up everyday chanting "death to America" Diplomacy doesn't work when you have leaders supplying terrorists for the sole reason to kill our troops. Diplomacy doesn't work when a leader denies the Holocaust ever happend and Israel should be wiped off the face of the map. Liberals have no problem with this thinking because for the most part they agree. If they didn't they would never interview the president of Iran.
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 28, 2008, 09:54:43 AM
Coach,

I think you're correct in guarding your $ from Obama.

But in terms of "we'll get bombed here if he wins", i disagree.

First off, he's offering diplomacy as a solution instead of cowboy justice.  This lessens the resentment, which the CIA says did lead to 911.  Second, he's actually MORE proactive on getting terrorists than mccain is. 

Bush, Palin, and Obama have all said (this week!) that we'll be going into pakistan to kill bad guys when we see them.

Mccain said (this week!) that we will not.  We'll let Pakistan do it (even though they haven't been able to capture Bin Laden in 7 years despite us pretty much knowing his location).


I dont buy that we all know where bin laden is/  GWB has been crucified by the public, the media, etc in the war on terrororism and if he caught bin laden, he would immediately be forgiven.  He knows that and I don't think would hesitate to get bin laden if he had a chance.
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: 240 is Back on September 28, 2008, 09:57:42 AM
Diplomacy doesn't work for a country that wakes up everyday chanting "death to America" Diplomacy doesn't work when you have leaders supplying terrorists for the sole reason to kill our troops. Diplomacy doesn't work when a leader denies the Holocaust never happend and Israel should be wiped off the face of the map. Liberals have no problem with this thinking because for the most part they agree. If they didn't they would never interview the president of Iran.

Dude, they can sit in their shit shacks and spend their whole lives preaching whatever they'd like.  They are free to believe whatever they want.  The majority of americans hate people from that area of the world too. E ast and west have always hated each other.  it's motivation for them to get up every day and face life in that shit nation of theirs.

Besides, mccain plans to let them keep doing it.  

Bush/Palin/Obama all call for US strikes.

You decide who will get the bad guys ;)
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: 240 is Back on September 28, 2008, 09:59:46 AM
I dont buy that we all know where bin laden is/  GWB has been crucified by the public, the media, etc in the war on terrororism and if he caught bin laden, he would immediately be forgiven.  He knows that and I don't think would hesitate to get bin laden if he had a chance.

In 2007 (july 14 i belive) the white house admitted we spotted him there in 2005 but didn't hit him because we didn't want to upset pakistan's population and undermine musharraf.

White house admitted it.  Reports are 3 times since 2001 I believe.

Call it politics, call it our incestuous appeasing relationship with pakistan (whom a republican congressional found sent $100k to Atta just days before 911 attacks), call it whatever you're like.
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 28, 2008, 10:01:37 AM
In 2007 (july 14 i belive) the white house admitted we spotted him there in 2005 but didn't hit him because we didn't want to upset pakistan's population and undermine musharraf.

White house admitted it.  Reports are 3 times since 2001 I believe.

Call it politics, call it our incestuous appeasing relationship with pakistan (whom a republican congressional found sent $100k to Atta just days before 911 attacks), call it whatever you're like.

Send me the proof to review and I will get back to you. 

As far as where he is now, i dont think anyone knows and he might be dead.
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: The Coach on September 28, 2008, 10:02:05 AM
In 2007 (july 14 i belive) the white house admitted we spotted him there in 2005 but didn't hit him because we didn't want to upset pakistan's population and undermine musharraf.

White house admitted it.  Reports are 3 times since 2001 I believe.

Call it politics, call it our incestuous appeasing relationship with pakistan (whom a republican congressional found sent $100k to Atta just days before 911 attacks), call it whatever you're like.

Link?

BTW, don't you think for one second he has body doubles who will take the hit for him if necessary? Maybe even a real tall women with a child on her shoulders dressed in that moo moo thing he wares?
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: tommywishbone on September 28, 2008, 10:05:16 AM
McCain is a war pig and a madman but all he has do is do nothing and he will win.

It will come down to ... white guy v. black guy. It's simple.
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: Stark on September 28, 2008, 10:07:12 AM
P.S. You libs are digging your own grave and don't even realize it.

hahah it's great to see the once superpower US going down the tubes ;) in a year or two you guys will beg us in the EU to allow you entry
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: The Coach on September 28, 2008, 10:09:33 AM
McCain is a war pig and a madman but all he has do is do nothing and he will win.

It will come down to ... white guy v. black guy. It's simple.

Because if Obama loses people will cry racism? Serious question becuase thats the way I see it.
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: Rimbaud on September 28, 2008, 10:10:06 AM
Diplomacy doesn't work for a country that wakes up everyday chanting "death to America" Diplomacy doesn't work when you have leaders supplying terrorists for the sole reason to kill our troops. Diplomacy doesn't work when a leader denies the Holocaust ever happend and Israel should be wiped off the face of the map. Liberals have no problem with this thinking because for the most part they agree. If they didn't they would never interview the president of Iran.

Did you ever stop to think about why other countries hate us?
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: 240 is Back on September 28, 2008, 10:11:25 AM
Link?

BTW, don't you think for one second he has body doubles who will take the hit for him if necessary? Maybe even a real tall women with a child on her shoulders dressed in that moo moo thing he wares?

U.S. Aborted Raid on Qaeda Chiefs in Pakistan in ’05 - New York Times
WASHINGTON, July 7 — A secret military operation in early 2005 to capture senior members of Al Qaeda in Pakistan’s tribal areas was aborted at the last minute after top Bush administration officials decided it was too risky and could jeopardize relations with Pakistan, according to intelligence and military officials.

But the mission was called off after Donald H. Rumsfeld, then the defense secretary, rejected an 11th-hour appeal by Porter J. Goss, then the director of the Central Intelligence Agency, officials said. Members of a Navy Seals unit in parachute gear had already boarded C-130 cargo planes in Afghanistan when the mission was canceled, said a former senior intelligence official involved in the planning.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/08/washington/08intel.html?_r=1&adxnnlx=1183863695-O0xP4oahNHcOS0NjLOU9RA&pagewanted=all




The CIA admits he was alive in Pakistan in 2005.

Bush Apointee McConnel:
In the most definitive statement in years, America’s top intelligence official said Tuesday Osama bin laden is in Pakistan actively re-establishing al Qaeda training camps.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/02/cia_bin_laden_i.html

Musharraf admits just missed him in 2005:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/we-justfailed-to-catch-bin-laden-last-year-admits-musharraf-528641.html

Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: The Coach on September 28, 2008, 10:11:58 AM
Did you ever stop to think about why other countries hate us?

Ever stop to think why other countries (some that do hate us) run to us when they get in trouble?
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: 240 is Back on September 28, 2008, 10:13:29 AM
Link?

BTW, don't you think for one second he has body doubles who will take the hit for him if necessary? Maybe even a real tall women with a child on her shoulders dressed in that moo moo thing he wares?

Joe,

You hate Obama because you make over $250k and he's going to hurt you financially.

Please don't try to scare the rest of us with lies about bin Laden, pakistan, and Bush policy.  

Admit you hate him because of the $ thing.  But don't tell the 95% of readers here (who will benefit from Obama tax policy) that "we're all gonna die!".

The truth is, Barack Obama is more hawkish on military action than Mccain is, or bush was in 2005.  Case closed.
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: Rimbaud on September 28, 2008, 10:14:03 AM
Ever stop to think why other countries (some that do hate us) run to us when they get in trouble?

You know when Palin can't answer (or doesn't understand the question) a question she just repeats the question back to you.  ;)

Yes, I've actually thought of both points.
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: Busted on September 28, 2008, 10:17:10 AM
Real intellegent answer you have there. I didn't say Obama is going to LET the country get bombed. I don't even think HE want s that. But cutting our military budget means lighting up on security and leaving us vulnerable for attack. Again, where he graduated doesn't mean squat.

Seriously you are a typical American, DUMB AS FUCK.  Cant even converse with you, nothing you say makes any sense, time and time again you post things and we come back and post the facts, and you ignore them and go off in another tangent we have to disprove.

Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: TerminalPower on September 28, 2008, 10:18:45 AM
U.S. Aborted Raid on Qaeda Chiefs in Pakistan in ’05 - New York Times
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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/08/washington/08intel.html?_r=1&adxnnlx=1183863695-O0xP4oahNHcOS0NjLOU9RA&pagewanted=all


When your source is the New York Times, credibility is lost.

Good Day!
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
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Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: RagingBull on September 28, 2008, 10:21:17 AM
Did you ever stop to think about why other countries hate us?

Their hatred for the US is disguised as love for Obama...wake up.  It's funny how all the terrorist nations are for Obama.
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: divcom on September 28, 2008, 10:21:48 AM
Because if Obama loses people will cry racism? Serious question becuase thats the way I see it.


You're joking...right. And he also excelled in life because of Affirm Act.  He loses if people believe McCain has been fighting the Repub party for change last 12 weeks or so, and they think that chick are run the country.
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 28, 2008, 10:24:10 AM
Joe,

You hate Obama because you make over $250k and he's going to hurt you financially.

Please don't try to scare the rest of us with lies about bin Laden, pakistan, and Bush policy.  

Admit you hate him because of the $ thing.  But don't tell the 95% of readers here (who will benefit from Obama tax policy) that "we're all gonna die!".

The truth is, Barack Obama is more hawkish on military action than Mccain is, or bush was in 2005.  Case closed.

His tax plan is a lie.  95% of the population does not even pay income taxes.  Also, anyone with any sense knows that if you tax small business more, less money will be around for new hirees and wage increases.  

BTW - I live in NY couples who make 250 k per year are far from rich.  Maybe in other states, but not CA and NY.

Here, a fireman and teacher together can be at that level.  Taxing people more is not productive since the govt already takes too much when FICA, medicair, SS ,et are considered, not to mention state taxes and real estate taxes.

Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 28, 2008, 10:27:47 AM
Their hatred for the US is disguised as love for Obama...wake up.  It's funny how all the terrorist nations are for Obama.

The rest of the world should never have a say on how we run our affairs so long as they keep lining up for aid, trade, and other benefits.

Moron Obama did not even realize that China and Russia have a veto on the UN Security council when he made he stupid statements about Russia.  He is a slick talking snake oil salesman who sounds good saying not a damn thing.
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: Neurotoxin on September 28, 2008, 10:32:44 AM
P.S. You libs are digging your own grave and don't even realize it.

ok Rush Coach.

can't wait til Thursday night !  ;D


NT
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 28, 2008, 10:36:04 AM
ok Rush Coach.

can't wait til Thursday night !  ;D


NT


Maybe Biden will tell us again how FDR got on the tv in 1929 and esxplained the stock market crash.

Maybe the admitted plagerizer will ask another paraplegic to stand up out of the wheelchair???

Is that what you mean???
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: Neurotoxin on September 28, 2008, 10:38:33 AM
Maybe Biden will tell us again how FDR got on the tv in 1929 and esxplained the stock market crash.

Maybe the admitted plagerizer will ask another paraplegic to stand up out of the wheelchair???

Is that what you mean???


no, i'm referring to mccain's running mate... Sarah "bag of rocks" Palin
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: Rimbaud on September 28, 2008, 10:46:27 AM
Their hatred for the US is disguised as love for Obama...wake up.  It's funny how all the terrorist nations are for Obama.

Why do you assume I support Obama?
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
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Bush has Socialized mortgage lenders (fannie, freddie) Socialized bankers (lehman, bear and counting ) Socialized the largest insurance co. in the world. (AIG)

what's next.......communism ?

in essence......Bush has already burned the Flag.


NT
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: Busted on September 28, 2008, 11:32:21 AM
His tax plan is a lie.  95% of the population does not even pay income taxes.  Also, anyone with any sense knows that if you tax small business more, less money will be around for new hirees and wage increases.  

BTW - I live in NY couples who make 250 k per year are far from rich.  Maybe in other states, but not CA and NY.

Here, a fireman and teacher together can be at that level.  Taxing people more is not productive since the govt already takes too much when FICA, medicair, SS ,et are considered, not to mention state taxes and real estate taxes.




For Those of us that OWN businesses, we don't really pay taxes at all, we write everything off and pay zero taxes.  I have not paid any taxes in 5 years.  Why? Because my business expenses are around 40%.

Also, fuck the IRS, Federal Taxes are Illegal.  According to the Constitution ALL taxes must be "portioned" any taxes that are not "Portioned" are illegal.  Federal income tax is NOT PORTIONED.

Have a nice day
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: Neurotoxin on September 28, 2008, 12:06:13 PM
You'll get what you deserve if he wins. I'm already putting plans into place so he won't touch any of money he thinks he'll get out of me. As far as the security of the country..........we're going to be f**ked. And WHEN we start getting bombed on our own soil.....don't say I didn't tell you so. You could tell just by those debates he has no clue on how to protect our country.


Rush Coach already believes it's over !


hahahaaaa.  ;D



NT
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: pumphard on September 28, 2008, 12:41:59 PM
You are a real ignorant fuck you know that coach...  Tired of the GOP and their stupid ass scare mongering, ignorant ass imbred, low educated people like YOU believe that shit.... Yeah Obama is gonna let people BOMB our country? Do you hear how IGNORANT you are?  DO I need to REPOST Palins interviews?  If McCain got in and passed away we would REALLY BE FUCKED...  got a woman who is completely retarded, knows NOTHING about EVERYTHING, religious nut case, so shut your pie hole...

We are in this big fucking hole becasue of the GOP!!!!!!!!!!!  That McCain voted with 90% of the time... FACT

Yeah he was number 1 at his class in Harvard so hes dumb and doenst have enough common sense to protect us right?
And you come across as the typical nieve left winger who doesn't have a clue at the way things are run at that level.  And neither does your buddy Obama, with all his education.  This guy thinks he can sit down with a terroist like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and discuss their differences.
You guys are in for a rude awakening with Obama, you'll be paying as much taxes as the Canadians..............h ahahahaah
 
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: pumphard on September 28, 2008, 12:44:01 PM
Did you ever stop to think about why other countries hate us?
Cause its tough when you're number 1
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: pumphard on September 28, 2008, 12:44:59 PM
U.S. Aborted Raid on Qaeda Chiefs in Pakistan in ’05 - New York Times
WASHINGTON, July 7 — A secret military operation in early 2005 to capture senior members of Al Qaeda in Pakistan’s tribal areas was aborted at the last minute after top Bush administration officials decided it was too risky and could jeopardize relations with Pakistan, according to intelligence and military officials.

But the mission was called off after Donald H. Rumsfeld, then the defense secretary, rejected an 11th-hour appeal by Porter J. Goss, then the director of the Central Intelligence Agency, officials said. Members of a Navy Seals unit in parachute gear had already boarded C-130 cargo planes in Afghanistan when the mission was canceled, said a former senior intelligence official involved in the planning.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/08/washington/08intel.html?_r=1&adxnnlx=1183863695-O0xP4oahNHcOS0NjLOU9RA&pagewanted=all




The CIA admits he was alive in Pakistan in 2005.

Bush Apointee McConnel:
In the most definitive statement in years, America’s top intelligence official said Tuesday Osama bin laden is in Pakistan actively re-establishing al Qaeda training camps.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/02/cia_bin_laden_i.html

Musharraf admits just missed him in 2005:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/we-justfailed-to-catch-bin-laden-last-year-admits-musharraf-528641.html


New yourk times................... ..that liberal rag..................... ....hahahahahahaah...... .....................nex t
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: pumphard on September 28, 2008, 12:48:07 PM

Bush has Socialized mortgage lenders (fannie, freddie) Socialized bankers (lehman, bear and counting ) Socialized the largest insurance co. in the world. (AIG)

what's next.......communism ?

in essence......Bush has already burned the Flag.


NT
At that point they had no choice, they had to do it.
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: The Coach on September 28, 2008, 01:18:34 PM
NT, I'm not throwing in the towel but the mainstream media is doing a good job in duping the country. You don't actually think Obama will win on issues do you? The mainstream is having the people buy into a socialist agenda that, and I'll say it again, borderline communist. It's no secret that the liberals love this type of agenda otherwise they wouldn't embrace countries that share that view. When on the subject of foriegn policy during the debates, all Obama kept going back to was social issues. If you really listened to that debate, Obama's plan called for spend spend spend. Rebuild the entire US infrastructure, broadband to rural parts of the US, a space program, etc etc etc. If you dont think he'll raise taxes on EVERYONE, you sadly mistaken. This mans plan is a mess of giant proportions. Again, you'll get what you vote for. If your bitching about the amount of taxes your paying now, then hold on brother. NT, you said one time you own multiple homes. How are you going to feel about Obama doubling your cap gains. I have one home and I was thinking about another, but if he wins...no way. Personally I'm not going to that bother me. I'm kinda old fashion in thinking when I bought my I plan on being here for along time, at least 15-20 years, I won't buy homes to flip.
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: TerminalPower on September 28, 2008, 02:14:59 PM
Did you ever stop to think about why other countries hate us?

Yes...they hate us for who they are not.

Let me know when you understand what I said above.
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: 240 is Back on September 28, 2008, 02:16:22 PM
Yes...they hate us for who they are not.

Let me know when you understand what I said above.

Didn't our own govt issue a report saying they hate us because we're in their country going after resources?

I'm A-ok with us doing it.  But surely you're not naive to think they're cool with us taking oil, but upset because we say the pledge of allegience every morning?
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: TerminalPower on September 28, 2008, 02:22:10 PM
Didn't our own govt issue a report saying they hate us because we're in their country going after resources?

I'm A-ok with us doing it.  But surely you're not naive to think they're cool with us taking oil, but upset because we say the pledge of allegience every morning?

Read it again.  I gave my opinion not that of others.
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: Busted on September 28, 2008, 02:23:40 PM
And you come across as the typical nieve left winger who doesn't have a clue at the way things are run at that level.  And neither does your buddy Obama, with all his education.  This guy thinks he can sit down with a terroist like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and discuss their differences.
You guys are in for a rude awakening with Obama, you'll be paying as much taxes as the Canadians..............h ahahahaah
 

Id be willing to bet you I know more than YOU do about how to Gov works.

Yes I do think he can sit down with Admandinejad, why? Becasue Ahmadinejad has never had a president from the states sit down with him with some common sense and discuss differences.  WOuld you wanna sit down with cowboy bush? nahhh

I think its funny how all the reps always go on and on about taxes... WE ARE Almost 10 trillion in debt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  DO YOU THINK IT IS GOING TO PAY FOR ITSELF?????
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: The Coach on September 28, 2008, 02:25:27 PM
Id be willing to bet you I know more than YOU do about how to Gov works.

Yes I do think he can sit down with Admandinejad, why? Becasue Ahmadinejad has never had a president from the states sit down with him with some common sense and discuss differences.  WOuld you wanna sit down with cowboy bush? nahhh

I think its funny how all the reps always go on and on about taxes... WE ARE Almost 10 trillion in debt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  DO YOU THINK IT IS GOING TO PAY FOR ITSELF?????

Ok.......and if that doesn't work, then what?
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: TerminalPower on September 28, 2008, 02:26:51 PM
Ok.......and if that doesn't work, then what?

<raises his hand to answer>

Appease him!
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: pumphard on September 28, 2008, 02:29:28 PM
Id be willing to bet you I know more than YOU do about how to Gov works.

Yes I do think he can sit down with Admandinejad, why? Becasue Ahmadinejad has never had a president from the states sit down with him with some common sense and discuss differences.  WOuld you wanna sit down with cowboy bush? nahhh

I think its funny how all the reps always go on and on about taxes... WE ARE Almost 10 trillion in debt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  DO YOU THINK IT IS GOING TO PAY FOR ITSELF?????
You're delusional.............. .........
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: pumphard on September 28, 2008, 03:14:40 PM
1) Coach, Bush has Socialized America more than ANY president in US history. we're closer to Communism under Bush......why can't you see that ? Bush has spent, spent, spent....more than 42 of his predecessors combined. in my mind that's not a conservative republican.

2) personally i'll get pounded with additional taxes under Obama's plan. (both income and cap. gains) but i accept that for the betterment of our country. the lower-middle class is tapped out, so they can't help. IMO, those who can must step forward.

3) yes, i currently own 4 homes...looking for a 5th. (no mortgages) so right now my property taxes have lowered a little with the housing collapse and that's good news !  :D

Coach, like me, the majority of my friends tend to be republican. sadly, nearly every one of them is more concerned with paying higher taxes then the country's direction. i'll never understand that logic.  :-\

besides, i'll gladly pay higher taxes just to avoid having Sarah "bag of rocks" Palin potentially be my president.

so will i vote for Obama ? not sure. voting for McCain and his inept running mate is completely out of the question.



NT





 

With the programs that Obama wants to instill, you haven't seen spending yet...................
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: 24KT on September 28, 2008, 04:11:04 PM
Real intellegent answer you have there. I didn't say Obama is going to LET the country get bombed. I don't even think HE want s that. But cutting our military budget means lighting up on security and leaving us vulnerable for attack. Again, where he graduated doesn't mean squat.
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Did you not see the debate?

It was McCain who said he could cut military budgets!

Obama declared he wanted to use the military wisely by finishing the job



If you have a whole bunch of money, and blow it foolishly, when you need it, it won't be there.
By the same token, prudent & wise investment, provides a return that will be there when needed.

The same can be said about America's military strength.

If you're squandering lives and resources when unecessary, where will you find the soldiers when you need them?

“How long wilt thou sleep, O sluggard? when wilt thou arise out of thy sleep?” --Proverbs 6:9

The statesman who yields to war fever...is no longer the master of policy but the slave of unforeseeable and uncontrollable events. --Sir Winston Churchill
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: 24KT on September 28, 2008, 04:26:54 PM
And you come across as the typical nieve left winger who doesn't have a clue at the way things are run at that level.  And neither does your buddy Obama, with all his education.  This guy thinks he can sit down with a terroist like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and discuss their differences.
You guys are in for a rude awakening with Obama, you'll be paying as much taxes as the Canadians..............h ahahahaah
 

NEW RULE:

If you're going to use the word naive in reference to someone, you should at least know how to spell it.

What do you have against Achmadinejad anyway?
He's a hawk, staunchly conservative hard right winger... that appears to be right up your ally.
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: 24KT on September 28, 2008, 04:32:14 PM
Yes...they hate us for who they are not.

Let me know when you understand what I said above.

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Lobotomized warmongering sheeple?
You do have a point.  :-*
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: pumphard on September 28, 2008, 06:03:12 PM
NEW RULE:

If you're going to use the word naive in reference to someone, you should at least know how to spell it.

What do you have against Achmadinejad anyway?
He's a hawk, staunchly conservative hard right winger... that appears to be right up your ally.
He's a terroist who doesn't care about the state of his own people, who most are living in harsh conditions.  And concentrates his money and attention on getting rid of Isreal.
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: 24KT on September 28, 2008, 06:26:09 PM
He's a terroist who doesn't care about the state of his own people, who most are living in harsh conditions.  And concentrates his money and attention on getting rid of Isreal.  furthering Israeli interests to the detriment of his own country.

Who Bush?

NEW RULES:

If you're going to call someone a terrorist, you should at least know how to spell it.

If you're going to refer to Israel, you should at least know how to spell it.
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: Fury on September 28, 2008, 06:29:01 PM
Who Bush?

NEW RULE:

If you're going to refer to Israel, you should at least know how to spell it.

Is this where you claim that Israel runs the U.S. and that we're all puppets of shadow forces pulling the strings from Jerusalem, she who got caught lying about her IQ and peddles shitty gas caps?
Title: Re: Its Over for MCcain-Rasmussen Poll Obama 50 percent, Mccain 44 and slipping.
Post by: Rimbaud on September 29, 2008, 09:34:54 AM
Yes...they hate us for who they are not.

Let me know when you understand what I said above.

Could you use smaller words next time?  ::)