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Title: Targeting your quads close to the knee?
Post by: ahh.. fk on September 30, 2008, 08:20:13 AM
What would be the best way to target you lower quads? If anything.
Title: Re: Targeting your quads close to the knee?
Post by: wes on September 30, 2008, 02:50:12 PM
Do a pre-exhaust Super-Set of Leg Extensions,immediately followed by Smith Machine Front Squats heels elevated on a 2x4.

Torturous combo..........no rest between exercises,12 reps each movement.
Title: Re: Targeting your quads close to the knee?
Post by: ahh.. fk on September 30, 2008, 04:48:53 PM
That sounds sick! Thanks Wes.
Title: Re: Targeting your quads close to the knee?
Post by: wes on October 01, 2008, 03:49:53 AM
No problem bud.  :)
Title: Re: Targeting your quads close to the knee?
Post by: thewickedtruth on October 01, 2008, 06:37:37 AM
sled dragging
Title: Re: Targeting your quads close to the knee?
Post by: flexingtonsteele on October 01, 2008, 06:43:17 AM
squat and lunge your ass off! :)
Title: Re: Targeting your quads close to the knee?
Post by: jpm101 on October 01, 2008, 07:50:57 AM
Along with Wes's good suggestion, might also consider BB Hack squats with the heels placed on that famous 2X4 and/or a pair of BB plates. If you check out the quads of Olympic lifters you will see the outstanding value of doing serious front squating. These lifters will have raised heels on the lifting shoes for balance/leverage. All the better for hitting the lower quads.

If you want to test your improvement (rather than only using the mirror) after 2 to 4 weeks time spent on working the lower quads, measure the muscle just above the knees. Compare that to the measurement of the mid thighs.

There is a old version of squating while on the toes. Seems to affect the total (upper-lower) leg muscle range very well. Now it's cool to squat with 400lbs, but try that while standing on the toes for a whole new feel to the exercise. If experimenting, than start with a light 135 at first. Balance may be a problem for some at the start. Can also do bwt squats only while on the toes, which some athletics still do. Higher reps of 50 or more can add a certain amount of leg improvement to some people.  Good Luck.
Title: Re: Targeting your quads close to the knee?
Post by: Meso_z on October 01, 2008, 08:42:01 AM
always push the weight from your toes, not your heels...
Title: Re: Targeting your quads close to the knee?
Post by: NoCalBbEr on October 01, 2008, 11:28:37 AM
not your toes but the ball of your feet. try some front squats with a close stance.
Title: Re: Targeting your quads close to the knee?
Post by: triple_pickle on October 01, 2008, 12:02:00 PM
always push the weight from your toes, not your heels...
::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Targeting your quads close to the knee?
Post by: QuakerOats on October 01, 2008, 01:27:44 PM
it's a heredity issue, if the muscle fibers are there you'll develop them with just regular barbell squats, leg presses, hacks, etc. with no special attention being paid to stance width, "pushing from your toes" and all that other bullshit, just use whatever stance is most comfortable on squats, presses and hacks and what development comes will come.
Title: Re: Targeting your quads close to the knee?
Post by: thewickedtruth on October 01, 2008, 08:15:22 PM
it's a heredity issue, if the muscle fibers are there you'll develop them with just regular barbell squats, leg presses, hacks, etc. with no special attention being paid to stance width, "pushing from your toes" and all that other bullshit, just use whatever stance is most comfortable on squats, presses and hacks and what development comes will come.

or he could be like everyone else and not go as deep or use full ROM and never get the proper stimulation in that area. No matter what you do for legs you'll always stimulate the whole muscle situation..but you can put more EMPHASIS on certain areas. I started sled dragging what.. a few months ago? Now it looks like I have two knees when I've squatted and leg pressed high numbers adn didn't see shit. Also, alot of squatting past parallel seems to really stress the area around the knees more so than the usual.
Title: Re: Targeting your quads close to the knee?
Post by: Royalty on October 16, 2008, 11:29:21 AM
Along with Wes's good suggestion, might also consider BB Hack squats


yup barbell hacks are the best for vastus medialis IMO
Title: Re: Targeting your quads close to the knee?
Post by: tbombz on October 16, 2008, 03:59:35 PM
Do a pre-exhaust Super-Set of Leg Extensions,
what do you mean ? that doesnt make sense
Title: Re: Targeting your quads close to the knee?
Post by: BFP on October 18, 2008, 01:18:01 PM
what do you mean ? that doesnt make sense

it does. The extensions are done prior to the front squats. They leave the quads "pre exhausted" for the squats.  The superset is performed by following the extensions with the squat with no rest.

Jason
Title: Re: Targeting your quads close to the knee?
Post by: chaos on October 18, 2008, 01:37:20 PM
it does. The extensions are done prior to the front squats. They leave the quads "pre exhausted" for the squats.  The superset is performed by following the extensions with the squat with no rest.

Jason
Burns like a mofo that way.
Title: Re: Targeting your quads close to the knee?
Post by: haider on October 18, 2008, 01:53:15 PM
-full ROM squats
-full ROM elevated heels squats
-One-and-a-quarter Squat: Squat down all the way, come back up 1/4th of the way, go back down then squat all the way up.

can do variations of these with front/back. i'm sure there's mroe ways.
Title: Re: Targeting your quads close to the knee?
Post by: tbombz on October 18, 2008, 05:24:27 PM
it does. The extensions are done prior to the front squats. They leave the quads "pre exhausted" for the squats.  The superset is performed by following the extensions with the squat with no rest.

Jason
its a super set OR a pre exhaust.

a pre exhaust is doing an isolation movement bbefore doing a compound movement to get the target muscle full of blood and worn out a bit before doing the compound, which allows for better isolation, less recruitment of the secondary muscles, and more stimulation in the target muscle.

a superset is just like you described, going back and forth between two exercises.



a "pre exhaust super set"...if taken literally...would mean you are super setting two isloation movements before moving on to a compound movement. for example, starting your workout with a super set of precher curls and alternating incline bench curls (face down), then after doing that super set, moving onto barbell curls; having pre exhausted biceps with the super set of those two isolations.



silly powerlifter  :D .
Title: Re: Targeting your quads close to the knee?
Post by: LatsMcGee on October 18, 2008, 11:41:25 PM
Sissy Squats.
Title: Re: Targeting your quads close to the knee?
Post by: Meso_z on October 19, 2008, 01:56:44 AM
::) ::) ::)

Is there a problem "triple_pickle"?  ::)
Title: Re: Targeting your quads close to the knee?
Post by: BFP on October 19, 2008, 07:27:45 AM
its a super set OR a pre exhaust.

a pre exhaust is doing an isolation movement bbefore doing a compound movement to get the target muscle full of blood and worn out a bit before doing the compound, which allows for better isolation, less recruitment of the secondary muscles, and more stimulation in the target muscle.

a superset is just like you described, going back and forth between two exercises.



a "pre exhaust super set"...if taken literally...would mean you are super setting two isloation movements before moving on to a compound movement. for example, starting your workout with a super set of precher curls and alternating incline bench curls (face down), then after doing that super set, moving onto barbell curls; having pre exhausted biceps with the super set of those two isolations.



silly powerlifter  :D .

Sorry Taylor. I didnt have my "Big Book of Weider Principles" next to the computer  ;D ;D

Jason
Title: Re: Targeting your quads close to the knee?
Post by: tbombz on October 19, 2008, 04:28:59 PM
Sorry Taylor. I didnt have my "Big Book of Weider Principles" next to the computer  ;D ;D

Jason
Neither did i , i was using the instinctive posting principle.  :D
Title: Re: Targeting your quads close to the knee?
Post by: BFP on October 19, 2008, 07:54:23 PM
Neither did i , i was using the instinctive posting principle.  :D
;D
Title: Re: Targeting your quads close to the knee?
Post by: triple_pickle on October 20, 2008, 09:22:33 PM
Is there a problem "triple_pickle"?  ::)
let's see some pictures of your "lower quads" ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Targeting your quads close to the knee?
Post by: The Freakshow on October 20, 2008, 09:46:29 PM
What would be the best way to target you lower quads? If anything.

It's actually impossible to "isolate" your lower Quads, but you can "target" them or put more emphasis on them.

It can be done on the Leg Extension machine with the hip being in the flexed position, the greater Hip Flexion the more empahsis you will put on your lower Quads (Vastus Lateralis & Vastus Intermedius).
Title: Re: Targeting your quads close to the knee?
Post by: bigbychoice on November 11, 2008, 02:39:49 PM
Squat low! Really low. Stretch your calves then squat lower. Everything will get bigger!