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They seem to be legion.
Discuss...
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It's not just Getbig. Christians are a plague. I grew up in a Christian household and I'm glad that they had only brain washed me for a short period of time.
Don't get me wrong, I'm humble, spiritual even... but I won't live my life by a book that was written by MAN (who is corrupt), because it was all a ploy to control people. If there is a God or some sort of celestial being who created everything, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't want me living according to the bible. If there is a God, he's not like the fruit everyone depicts in the Bible. And I know he'd think that it's ludicrous for us to follow the scriptures of an archaic book.
I'm not opposed to the idea that something out there might have "created the universe" or ties us together on a higher plane of existance, but I don't think there's a dude in the clouds that's preparing my place in the afterlife. Christians are boneheads.
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Welcome to America.
Stay a while.
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people need something in their lives so they don't feel alone in this world and most people choose Christianity or God or whatever you want to call it and they ignore scientific fact.
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people need something in their lives so they don't feel alone in this world and most people choose Christianity or God or whatever you want to call it and they ignore scientific fact.
I love their trump card too - faith. Any time you get in an argument and back them into a corner, they just say that they're faithful, or suggest that we employ some "faith". What the fuck is that? Lots of those retards think dinosaurs never existed.. and some of them say that SATAN put bones in the ground to test our faith!!!! OMFG!!!!!!!!!!
Have those fucktards ever heard of carbon dating? We can prove beyond ALL REASONABLE DOUBT, I repeat, ALL REASONABLE DOUBT, that dinosaurs existed... but you know, what do scientists know about anything? With all their pens and pencils and fancy lab coats, they still lack faith.. oh yes. Faith. ::)
I could ramble on forever about Christians. Poor friggen fools.
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I love their trump card too - faith. Any time you get in an argument and back them into a corner, they just say that they're faithful, or suggest that we employ some "faith". What the fuck is that? Lots of those retards think dinosaurs never existed.. and some of them say that SATAN put bones in the ground to test our faith!!!! OMFG!!!!!!!!!!
Have those fucktards ever heard of carbon dating? We can prove beyond ALL REASONABLE DOUBT, I repeat, ALL REASONABLE DOUBT, that dinosaurs existed... but you know, what do scientists know about anything? With all their pens and pencils and fancy lab coats, they still lack faith.. oh yes. Faith. ::)
I could ramble on forever about Christians. Poor friggen fools.
the fact that most of them believe human beings have only been on earth for 6,000 years because the bible tells them so tells me all i need to know.
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Welcome to America.
Stay a while.
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Yes, god is quite well known in Texas. ::)
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I love their trump card too - faith. Any time you get in an argument and back them into a corner, they just say that they're faithful, or suggest that we employ some "faith". What the fuck is that? Lots of those retards think dinosaurs never existed.. and some of them say that SATAN put bones in the ground to test our faith!!!! OMFG!!!!!!!!!!
Have those fucktards ever heard of carbon dating? We can prove beyond ALL REASONABLE DOUBT, I repeat, ALL REASONABLE DOUBT, that dinosaurs existed... but you know, what do scientists know about anything? With all their pens and pencils and fancy lab coats, they still lack faith.. oh yes. Faith. ::)
I could ramble on forever about Christians. Poor friggen fools.
carbon dating is not reliable, and we dont think that satan put bones anywhere.
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the fact that most of them believe human beings have only been on earth for 6,000 years because the bible tells them so tells me all i need to know.
exactly.
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carbon dating is not reliable, and we dont think that satan put bones anywhere.
Well there's no doubting that the earth has been around for MILLIONS of years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who cares if it's a few thousand years off. You narrow minded fools have no right to question carbon dating with all your ludicrous theories.
I'm not usually so harsh and imposing, but Christianity is a PLAGUE. And yes, I've met hundreds of Christians who told me that SATAN put fake dinosaur bones on the earth's breast to test my faith. You question me? Question the hundreds of idiots at all the churches that my grandmother forced me to go to. Once I was old enough for her to respect my wishes, I stopped going. And thank goodness. They probably would have got to me too.
It pains me deeply because I love my grandmother so much, but she is a Christian. It's about her only flaw. She's one of the most perfect human beings I ever met but she's completely devout to her foolish religion. Christianity is really hilarious, I'm sorry. :-X
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carbon dating is not reliable, and we dont think that satan put bones anywhere.
WTF?
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Well there's no doubting that the earth has been around for MILLIONS of years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who cares if it's a few thousand years off. You narrow minded fools have no right to question carbon dating with all your ludicrous theories.
I'm not usually so harsh and imposing, but Christianity is a PLAGUE. And yes, I've met hundreds of Christians who told me that SATAN put fake dinosaur bones on the earth's breast to test my faith. You question me? Question the hundreds of idiots at all the churches that my grandmother forced me to go to. Once I was old enough for her to respect my wishes, I stopped going. And thank goodness. They probably would have got to me too.
It pains me deeply because I love my grandmother so much, but she is a Christian. It's about her only flaw. She's one of the most perfect human beings I ever met but she's completely devout to her foolish religion. Christianity is really hilarious, I'm sorry. :-X
it doesn't make them bad people because they believe in it, like i said sometimes it's a scary thought that we are here on this planet all alone and that nothing at all happens at to us when we die except laying in a pine bow and rotting away.
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Isn't it getting a little old?
As if there was nothing to Christianity than the retarted 6000 years nonsense.
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Isn't it getting a little old?
As if there was nothing to Christianity than the retarted 6000 years nonsense.
Sure there is more. Self-resurrecting godmen who walk on water and put demons in herds of swine...there is a whole lot more. ::)
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Sure there is more. Self-resurrecting godmen who walk on water and put demons in herds of swine...there is a whole lot more. ::)
:D
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the sad thing is that an christian extremist can run for vice president. oh wait they are the good guys right ::)
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It's not just Getbig. Christians are a plague. I grew up in a Christian household and I'm glad that they had only brain washed me for a short period of time.
Don't get me wrong, I'm humble, spiritual even... but I won't live my life by a book that was written by MAN (who is corrupt), because it was all a ploy to control people. If there is a God or some sort of celestial being who created everything, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't want me living according to the bible. If there is a God, he's not like the fruit everyone depicts in the Bible. And I know he'd think that it's ludicrous for us to follow the scriptures of an archaic book.
I'm not opposed to the idea that something out there might have "created the universe" or ties us together on a higher plane of existance, but I don't think there's a dude in the clouds that's preparing my place in the afterlife. Christians are boneheads.
Quote of the day... lol
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ever notice how we get thread after thread about how bad Christianity is. i wish you atheists would just admit your biggest fear in life is the fact that there may be a god. i know personally that used to be my case when i was an atheist.
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the problem with "christianity" is that people focus on the stupid traditions and details instead of living their life according to what the founder of their religion, Jesus taught, which is loving your neighbor, helping the poor and infirmed, forgiveness, etc. instead of just using religion as a means of passing judgement on other people, people are hypocrites in the end.
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and what made you believe in a god? ::)
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ever notice how we get thread after thread about how bad Christianity is. i wish you atheists would just admit your biggest fear in life is the fact that there may be a god. i know personally that used to be my case when i was an atheist.
No. ::)
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the problem with "christianity" is that people focus on the stupid traditions and details instead of living their life according to what the founder of their religion, Jesus taught, which is loving your neighbor, helping the poor and infirmed, forgiveness, etc. instead of just using religion as a means of passing judgement on other people, people are hypocrites in the end.
Best post in this thread.
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Religion shouldnt play a part in a modern society.
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ever notice how we get thread after thread about how bad Christianity is. i wish you atheists would just admit your biggest fear in life is the fact that there may be a god. i know personally that used to be my case when i was an atheist.
That was your dig, whatever. I'm not opposed to religion per se. I just think that Christianity is one of the most ludicrous, viral and pathetic religions out there. And it's a shame too because it's one of the most popular. New folks are being brainwashed and recruited by the thousands as we speak.
I'll tip my hat to you guys though, you do a good job. I forgot about the "fear" card. Oh yes, I'm afraid of a higher being. I think that all humans and everything else in this universe is tied together. Perhaps that in itself is "God". I'm just not confident that there's a dude watching me 24/7 and hoping that I make it into the pearly gates when I die. How can he love me but let me burn in hell for all eternity if I don't ask him into my heart??? If he really loves he, he'd send a blatantly obvious sign and an INSTRUCTION BOOKLET so I don't burn for all eternity.
For what it's worth, when I was a child I asked Christ into my heart. If I'm horribly mistaken and the bible is accurate, are they still going to let me in? Like I said before, I don't have a problem with the majority of the bible but I'm not going to follow it blindly. I think that if there is a God, he's not going to care if I deviate away from his rules if I'm still righteous, good and someone who always tries to do the right thing. If my heart guides me in one direction, he cannot scold me for my actions if he is my creator.
If I were a raging homo and nothing got me harder than imagining another man's hairy asshole in my face, how can he punish me and let me burn in hell??? Christians tell me that homosexuality is a defect... well, how the fuck is that fair? What if a gay person asks Christ into their heart? Will the Lord tell them to fuck off? There are too many holes. I know Christians like to talk about this stuff in Church and on the radio waves, but I think they should let it go. If there is a God, there's no use in following an archaic book that was again, written by MEN (who are tainted), in my humble opinion. *shrug*
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the problem with "christianity" is that people focus on the stupid traditions and details instead of living their life according to what the founder of their religion, Jesus taught, which is loving your neighbor, helping the poor and infirmed, forgiveness, etc. instead of just using religion as a means of passing judgement on other people, people are hypocrites in the end.
wow an intelligent post.
Religion dictates a reality for people which is what some people need since they cannot determine their own reality. Therefore they have no problem being told that theres a dude in the sky who judges you when you die etc, etc, etc..
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WTF?
Carbon dating is only reliable to 44K years...how do you get millions of years? Not every Christian sect says that humans have only been here 6K years.
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Religion shouldnt play a part in a modern any society.
Fixed.
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Religion shouldnt play a part in a modern society.
I would say organized religion should not play a part in politics.
Spirituality will always play a part in peoples' lifes.
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the disciples faced death in a storm, yet Jesus said to the waves "be calm" and they were still
THIS IS POWERFUL!!!
JESUS has complete control over all the conflicts in YOUR life(waves)!!!
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the problem with "christianity" is that people focus on the stupid traditions and details instead of living their life according to what the founder of their religion, Jesus taught, which is loving your neighbor, helping the poor and infirmed, forgiveness, etc. instead of just using religion as a means of passing judgement on other people, people are hypocrites in the end.
You are exactly right, that it is exactly the problem with Christianity today. We have gone away from what Jesus taught us.
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I would say organized religion should not play a part in politics.
Spirituality will always play a part in peoples' lifes.
Agreed.
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Carbon dating is only reliable to 44K years...how do you get millions of years? Not every Christian sect says that humans have only been here 6K years.
The christians who dont believe the world is 6000 years old are going to hell. For they questioned the bible which is the infallable, unchanging word of God.
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The christians who dont believe the world is 6000 years old are going to hell. For they questioned the bible which is the infallable, unchanging word of God.
Where does the bible say that the earth is 6000 years old?
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Where does the bible say that the earth is 6000 years old?
exactly...
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Where does the bible say that the earth is 6000 years old?
There are five (and only five) Biblical steps necessary to determine the age of the universe.
1. Genesis 5. These genealogies cover 10 generations, from Adam to Noah, and reveals that Noah died when the earth was 2006 years old. Click here to view a table created from Genesis 5.
2. Gen. 11:10-32. These genealogies cover 9 generations, from Shem (the son of Noah) to the death of Terah (Abraham’s dad). This genealogy will give you the age of the earth at the death of Terah, who is the father of Abraham, as 2081. It is very interesting to note that Terah died the very year Abraham received the promise of God in Genesis 12:1-4. It is very true that we will not receive any of the promises of God until we obey the conditions of those promises. God had told Abraham to depart from: (1) his country, (2) his kindred, and (3) his father’s house. Abraham did not receive any of the promises of God until he obeyed completely. We, like Abraham, will receive none of the promises of God until we obey completely. Click here to view a table created from Genesis 11:10-32.
It is interesting to note that Abraham was born the same year Noah died, when the world was 2006 years old. According to Genesis 12:4, Abraham was 75 years old when he received the promises of God. Add 2006 to 75 and we discover the world was 2081 years old when the promise was given to Abraham concerning the coming Saviour and the blessings of God upon the nation of Israel.
3. Galatians 3:16,17 declares, "Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. 17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect." Abraham received the promise when the world was 2081 years old. Now, add the 430 years spoken of in Galatians 3:16,17 to 2081, and we discover the world was 2511 years old when the law (the Ten Commandments) was given.
Also read Exodus 12:40,41. "Now the sojourning of the children of Israel, who dwelt in Egypt, was four hundred and thirty years. 41 And it came to pass at the end of the four hundred and thirty years, even the selfsame day it came to pass, that all the hosts of the LORD went out from the land of Egypt."
The sojourning of the children of Israel (in Canaan: during the lifetime of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: in Egypt (see Exodus 6:16-20) during the life of Levi, Kohath, Amram, and Moses.
4. I Kings 6:1. This verse will bring us up to the fourth year of Solomon's reign.
I Kings 6:1 states, "And it came to pass in the four hundred and eightieth year after the children of Israel were come out of the land of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon's reign over Israel, in the month Zif, which is the second month, that he began to build the house of the LORD."
Now we can add another 480 years to 2511 and we get find it is 2991 years from creation to the fourth year of Solomon’s reign.
5. Using any secular history, look up the date when Solomon reigned. This will be in the area of 1015-975 b. c. If you like, you can go through the books of I and II Kings and prove that Israel went into bondage to the Assyrians in 722 B. C. and Judah went into bondage to Babylon in 606 B. C.
Because we know from secular history that Solomon reigned about 1,000 years before Christ, we can add 1,000 years to 2,991 (the age of the earth when Solomon began to reign) and you get 3991 (the approximate age of the earth when Christ was born.)
I think everybody knows it is approximately 2000 years the time of Christ until now. So add 2000 years to 3991 and you get 5991. That is pretty close to 6,000 years.
It is very clear, is it not, that the Bible proves the age of the universe to be approximately 6,000 years old
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Where does the bible say that the earth is 6000 years old?
One of your gurus figured that one out in the 17th century and it became 'fact'. ::)
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I would say organized religion should not play a part in politics.
Spirituality will always play a part in peoples' lifes.
Whatever the fuck that means.... ::)
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They seem to be legion.
Discuss...
This is America.
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Yes, god is quite well known in Texas. ::)
Texas is one of the worst.
Filled with Baptists who get drunk and beat their wives on the weekends...it's a great state!
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One of your gurus figured that one out in the 17th century and it became 'fact'. ::)
Fact to who? Not me. I don't believe that the world is only 6,000 years old but I also don't believe that it is 40 million either. We have proof that it isn't only 6,000 but nothing that proves it is more than roughly 44,000 years old because carbon dating is only accurate to roughly 44,000 years.
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There are five (and only five) Biblical steps necessary to determine the age of the universe.
1. Genesis 5. These genealogies cover 10 generations, from Adam to Noah, and reveals that Noah died when the earth was 2006 years old. Click here to view a table created from Genesis 5.
2. Gen. 11:10-32. These genealogies cover 9 generations, from Shem (the son of Noah) to the death of Terah (Abraham’s dad). This genealogy will give you the age of the earth at the death of Terah, who is the father of Abraham, as 2081. It is very interesting to note that Terah died the very year Abraham received the promise of God in Genesis 12:1-4. It is very true that we will not receive any of the promises of God until we obey the conditions of those promises. God had told Abraham to depart from: (1) his country, (2) his kindred, and (3) his father’s house. Abraham did not receive any of the promises of God until he obeyed completely. We, like Abraham, will receive none of the promises of God until we obey completely. Click here to view a table created from Genesis 11:10-32.
It is interesting to note that Abraham was born the same year Noah died, when the world was 2006 years old. According to Genesis 12:4, Abraham was 75 years old when he received the promises of God. Add 2006 to 75 and we discover the world was 2081 years old when the promise was given to Abraham concerning the coming Saviour and the blessings of God upon the nation of Israel.
3. Galatians 3:16,17 declares, "Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. 17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect." Abraham received the promise when the world was 2081 years old. Now, add the 430 years spoken of in Galatians 3:16,17 to 2081, and we discover the world was 2511 years old when the law (the Ten Commandments) was given.
Also read Exodus 12:40,41. "Now the sojourning of the children of Israel, who dwelt in Egypt, was four hundred and thirty years. 41 And it came to pass at the end of the four hundred and thirty years, even the selfsame day it came to pass, that all the hosts of the LORD went out from the land of Egypt."
The sojourning of the children of Israel (in Canaan: during the lifetime of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: in Egypt (see Exodus 6:16-20) during the life of Levi, Kohath, Amram, and Moses.
4. I Kings 6:1. This verse will bring us up to the fourth year of Solomon's reign.
I Kings 6:1 states, "And it came to pass in the four hundred and eightieth year after the children of Israel were come out of the land of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon's reign over Israel, in the month Zif, which is the second month, that he began to build the house of the LORD."
Now we can add another 480 years to 2511 and we get find it is 2991 years from creation to the fourth year of Solomon’s reign.
5. Using any secular history, look up the date when Solomon reigned. This will be in the area of 1015-975 b. c. If you like, you can go through the books of I and II Kings and prove that Israel went into bondage to the Assyrians in 722 B. C. and Judah went into bondage to Babylon in 606 B. C.
Because we know from secular history that Solomon reigned about 1,000 years before Christ, we can add 1,000 years to 2,991 (the age of the earth when Solomon began to reign) and you get 3991 (the approximate age of the earth when Christ was born.)
I think everybody knows it is approximately 2000 years the time of Christ until now. So add 2000 years to 3991 and you get 5991. That is pretty close to 6,000 years.
It is very clear, is it not, that the Bible proves the age of the universe to be approximately 6,000 years old
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This looks like a case for the bible indicating that life is about 6000 years old. But did I miss the part about where it states the age of the earth or universe?
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Religion shouldnt play a part in a modern society.
So, after viewing our current modern society, you believe man has enough innate good will instilled inside him to avoid anarchy?
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One of your gurus figured that one out in the 17th century and it became 'fact'. ::)
Does this mean you are speaking to me again? :D
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Fact to who? Not me. I don't believe that the world is only 6,000 years old but I also don't believe that it is 40 million either. We have proof that it isn't only 6,000 but nothing that proves it is more than roughly 44,000 years old because carbon dating is only accurate to roughly 44,000 years.
Do you think that carbon dating is the only dating method available? The earth is 4.5 billion years old. That is a scientific fact. Welcome to modernity.
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ever notice how we get thread after thread about how bad Christianity is. i wish you atheists would just admit your biggest fear in life is the fact that there may be a god. i know personally that used to be my case when i was an atheist.
if you have a fear that there may be a God...u were not an athiest. agknowledgement of a higher power in any way shape or form would put you as agnostic at best...
the beauty of athiesm is that there is NO doubt in the mind......you are without fear or guilt of a higher power
i do not fear green goblins under my bed, or monsters in my closet because they dont exist in reality. only children, people with sub par IQ's, and the insane would have that belief. athiest feel the same way about "God"
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Whatever the fuck that means.... ::)
It means that people realize there is more to the world than what the ego clings to.
It's a revelation to the heart, not the mind.
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Does this mean you are speaking to me again? :D
An unintended consequence of you posting in this thread; I can assure you, it brought me no pleasure and in any event 'your' implied Christendom in general.
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Do you think that carbon dating is the only dating method available? The earth is 4.5 billion years old. That is a scientific fact. Welcome to modernity.
fact and theory are different. 4.5 billion is theory. What other aging method do they have that is accurate to 4.5 billion years?
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An unintended consequence of you posting in this thread; I can assure you, it brought me no pleasure and in any event 'your' implied Christendom in general.
So, yes, then? ;D
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It means that people realize there is more to the world than what the ego clings to.
It's a revelation to the heart, not the mind.
You can dress it up anyway you want Wienerschnitzel, but there is no evidence that anything other than matter and energy exist; the 'heart' is merely a confluence of physical and biochemical mechanisms and ceases to exist when these functions grind to a halt. Even in your dressed up form, it is simply wishful thinking on your part.
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Do you think that carbon dating is the only dating method available? The earth is 4.5 billion years old. That is a scientific fact. Welcome to modernity.
Would you say you have "faith" in carbon dating? :)
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So, after viewing our current modern society, you believe man has enough innate good will instilled inside him to avoid anarchy?
yes. the world had rules, regulations, and laws defining moral judgement of societies LONG before the bible came around.
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It means that people realize there is more to the world than what the ego clings to.
It's a revelation to the heart, not the mind.
I dont see anything wrong with spirituality. Religion however is the blind leading the blind.
Deicide, why do you even bother telling them that they are narrow minded and stupid? You cannot speak of the ocean to a frog in a well.
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"Those who fear the Lord will hate evil."
Proverbs 8:13
thus, all who do not fear the Lord do not truly hate evil
THINK ABOUT THIS!!!
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fact and theory are different. 4.5 billion is theory. What other aging method do they have that is accurate to 4.5 billion years?
Superposition
Stratigraphy
Dendrochronology
Radiocarbon C14
Radiometric Dating Methods
Obsidian Hydration Dating
Paleomagnetic/Archaeomagnetic
Luminescence Dating Methods
Amino Acid Racemization
Fission-track Dating
Ice Cores
Varves
Pollens
Corals
Cation Ratio
Fluorine Dating
Patination
Oxidizable Carbon Ratio
Electron Spin Resonance
Cosmic-ray Exposure Dating
More than your ignorant ass can count.
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You can dress it up anyway you want Wienerschnitzel, but there is no evidence that anything other than matter and energy exist; the 'heart' is merely a confluence of physical and biochemical mechanisms and ceases to exist when these functions grind to a halt. Even in your dressed up form, it is simply wishful thinking on your part.
agreed. the fact that it is "heart felt"....or to even imply the man has a "soul" is ridiculous.
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Would you say you have "faith" in carbon dating? :)
See list of the multitude of dating methods.
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"Those who fear the Lord will hate evil."
Proverbs 8:13
thus, all who do not fear the Lord do not truly hate evil
THINK ABOUT THIS!!!
" Jesus loves me yes i know, for the bible tells me so.."
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Pollens
complete and utter crap, ask goodrum
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I dont see anything wrong with spirituality. Religion however is the blind leading the blind.
Deicide, why do you even bother telling them that they are narrow minded and stupid? You cannot speak of the ocean to a frog in a well.
That's true, but ignorance should be combatted nonetheless.
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See list of the multitude of dating methods.
So you believe those dating methods to be accurate? If so, why?
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"Those who fear the Lord will hate evil."
Proverbs 8:13
thus, all who do not fear the Lord do not truly hate evil
THINK ABOUT THIS!!!
respect and admiration through fear....HMMMM. sounds like the mob.
i thought we were supposed to love.....now were supposed to fear. ???
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Superposition
Stratigraphy
Dendrochronology
Radiocarbon C14
Radiometric Dating Methods
Obsidian Hydration Dating
Paleomagnetic/Archaeomagnetic
Luminescence Dating Methods
Amino Acid Racemization
Fission-track Dating
Ice Cores
Varves
Pollens
Corals
Cation Ratio
Fluorine Dating
Patination
Oxidizable Carbon Ratio
Electron Spin Resonance
Cosmic-ray Exposure Dating
More than your ignorant ass can count.
Bingo. I was just going to sputter off things like the pollens found in ice cores, corals, ESR, etc... beat me to the punch and brought fourth many other methods of dating that I didn't even know of. There's no fucking doubting it. The earth is 4 billion years old. How can anyone argue otherwise? If they do argue otherwise and they're genuine about their doubts and not just being pessimistic, I feel sorry for them.
Blind faith in science or religion is bad... but I mean, c'mon. We have facts, they have faith. I'm going to err on the side of caution and go with cold, hard, facts. But again, if I'm wrong I want a welcome package that includes an instruction booklet, a Bible that's updated for 2009, a secret decoder ring and assurance that I'm not going to burn in hell for all eternity. Until then, I'm not holding my breath.
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You can dress it up anyway you want Wienerschnitzel, but there is no evidence that anything other than matter and energy exist; the 'heart' is merely a confluence of physical and biochemical mechanisms and ceases to exist when these functions grind to a halt. Even in your dressed up form, it is simply wishful thinking on your part.
Has all been discussed and proven wrong long ago.
Same arguments, same pseudo-philosophic trap again and again.
The force of reincarnation is strong in this one. :D
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respect and admiration through fear....HMMMM. sounds like the mob.
i thought we were supposed to love.....now were supposed to fear. ???
"Blessed are those who fear to sin, but the stubborn are headed for serious trouble."
Proverbs 28:14
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agreed. the fact that it is "heart felt"....or to even imply the man has a "soul" is ridiculous.
And why would that be ridiculous?
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"Blessed are those who fear to sin, but the stubborn are headed for serious trouble."
Proverbs 28:14
quote all you want blue........
heres one for you:
""I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."
-- Stephen Roberts
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quote all you want blue........
heres one for you:
""I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."
-- Stephen Roberts
"Ye of little intellect, REPENT"
blue 10:01
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Has all been discussed and proven wrong long ago.
Same arguments, same pseudo-philosphic trap again and again.
The force of reincarnation is strong in this one. :D
Wavelength, Deicide is right on this one. Matter and energy is all that exists in our reality. However does that mean thats all that does exist?
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And why would that be ridiculous?
something coming from "the heart" is a feeling....an emotion. the "soul" is nothing more than a label encompassing all feelings.....an immaterial essence per se...
its merely a broad stroke of description...which has been translated into an invisible part of the human that is supposed to float up to heaven or sink to hell. that is ridiculous
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So you believe those dating methods to be accurate? If so, why?
I have read enough to understand the principles of most of them, moreover, there would be no geology, biology, chemistry or physics if many of these methods were ineffective. Take Fission Tracking Dating for example:
Fission-track dating is one type of radioactive dating method used by archaeologists to determine the thermal age of artifacts containing uranium-bearing minerals. Fission tracks are created at a constant rate throughout time so that from the number of tracks present it is possible to determine the amount of time that has past since the track accumulation began. Dates from anywhere between twenty to one thousand million years ago can be determined with this particular technique.
Many principles of modern physics are based on this.
I am sorry to say, you are woefully ignorant Stella; you have neither an interest nor a desire to learn about science, rather you prefer ancient mythology written by desert goat herders, which you believe on no evidence whatsoever other than the doctrinal whip that was applied to your mind in your youth when you were brainwashed.
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Wavelength, Deicide is right on this one. Matter and energy is all that exists in our reality. However does that mean thats all that does exist?
All depends on what you mean by it. What is matter and energy?
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Has all been discussed and proven wrong long ago.
Same arguments, same pseudo-philosophic trap again and again.
The force of reincarnation is strong in this one. :D
Wienerschnitzel, you are the one spouting pseudo-philosphic gibberish, which you disguise as 'logic'.
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All depends on what you mean by it. What is matter and energy?
Both measurable quantities of things which exist; that is what they are. Why aren't you jumping on the Dumb Fundy Bandwagon and claiming that the many dating methods scientists use are wrong?
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something coming from "the heart" is a feeling....an emotion. the "soul" is nothing more than a label encompassing all feelings.....an immaterial essence per se...
Yes of course, it's a flowery description of something which however is much more powerful than what is commonly meant by a "feeling".
its merely a broad stroke of description...which has been translated into an invisible part of the human that is supposed to float up to heaven or sink to hell. that is ridiculous
That I agree to 100%
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jesus had a HUNCH while eating his problems for LUNCH; so he flurries his fists in a BUNCH; oh what a fricken CRUNCH!
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Wienerschnitzel, you are the one spouting pseudo-philosphic gibberish, which you disguise as 'logic'.
Then why was nobody able to challenge it one bit?
Both measurable quantities of things which exist; that is what they are. Why aren't you jumping on the Dumb Fundy Bandwagon and claiming that the many dating methods scientists use are wrong?
As I said, no new arguments. My responses are in this thread:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=198162.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=198162.0)
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More evidence that we have cerebrally challenged Christians on board here.
Onetimehard:
Man you guys make laugh, the so called scientest, smart evolutionist obviously because anyone that believes in creation is autromatically dumb, always believe something to take place evry so many thousans or millions of years until something comes along and makes them look stupid, for example mount st helens erupted in the fifties and the main guy studying it wrote a report saying "This valcano erupsts evry 1500 years and not even 50 years later it eruptet again, lol
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Then why was nobody able to challenge it one bit?
As I said, no new arguments. My responses are in this thread:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=198162.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=198162.0)
I don't really have any beef with you Wienerschnitzel, und du hast Recht, du und ich haben dieses Thema definitiv AUSDISKUTIERT.
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wuhahahaha
once again GOD owns the feeble minds of non believers
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I don't really have any beef with you Wienerschnitzel, und du hast Recht, du und ich haben dieses Thema definitiv AUSDISKUTIERT.
Ich glaube spiritchalismus? kan gut sein fur die menscheit in giwissen fellen.
Lol i try my best, dont rip on the spelling :P
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wuhahahaha
once again GOD owns the feeble minds of non believers
Oh snap!!
Hahahah, these fucking sinners and non believers are fucking making me laugh. You won't be talking like such smarty pants when demons are stuffing their barbed cocks down your throat and blowing their satanic wads down your eviscerated gullets!
PW3nd by Jesus!
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I don't really have any beef with you Wienerschnitzel, und du hast Recht, du und ich haben dieses Thema definitiv AUSDISKUTIERT.
:D :D :D
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Ich glaube spiritchalismus? kan gut sein fur die menscheit in giwissen fellen.
Lol i try my best, dont rip on the spelling :P
Nicht schlecht, Herr Specht. ;)
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Ich glaube spiritchalismus? kan gut sein fur die menscheit in giwissen fellen.
Lol i try my best, dont rip on the spelling :P
Sorry but that has absolutely nothing to do with German.
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Oh snap!!
Hahahah, these fucking sinners and non believers are fucking making me laugh. You won't be talking like suck smart pants when demons are stuffing their barbed cocks down your throat and blowing their satanic wads down your eviscerated gullets!
PW3nd by Jesus!
i welcome and encourage any companions who wish to find true faith in the Lord
"He has the whole world...in His hands.."
He has my life in His hands i will fear nothing...the Lord is with me
let us pray my brother
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i welcome and encourage any companions who wish to find true faith in the Lord
"He has the whole world...in His hands.."
He has my life in His hands i will fear nothing...the Lord is with me
let us pray my brother
Tell me, where was the Lord when my cousins got gang raped, tortured and then murdered on their farm in South Africa?
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I have read enough to understand the principles of most of them, moreover, there would be no geology, biology, chemistry or physics if many of these methods were ineffective. Take Fission Tracking Dating for example:
Many principles of modern physics are based on this.
Do these cover changing atmospheric conditions?
I am sorry to say, you are woefully ignorant Stella; you have neither an interest nor a desire to learn about science, rather you prefer ancient mythology written by desert goat herders, which you believe on no evidence whatsoever other than the doctrinal whip that was applied to your mind in your youth when you were brainwashed.
I could say the same about you regarding your diet. Maybe now that some others are weighing in on it you will listen to them...that you need to eat more real (clean) food and work out harder. I'm sure when I told you these things you dismissed them as from a woefully ignorant person ;D
A question I have re: your claim that all that exists are energy and matter, would you say that consciousness = energy?
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Tell me, where was the Lord when my cousins got gang raped, tortured and then murdered on their farm in South Africa?
Or my father's grandparents were being shot before his eyes and dumped into the Danube...
Don't get them started on their 'free will' bullshit... :-X
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Tell me, where was the Lord when my cousins got gang raped, tortured and then murdered on their farm in South Africa?
"Joyful is the person who finds wisdom, the one who gains understanding.
For wisdom is more profitable than silver, and her wages are better than gold.
Wisdom is more precious than rubies; nothing you desire can compare with her.
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Wisdom is a tree of life to those who embrace her; happy are those who hold her tightly."
Proverbs 3:13-15,18
let us pray for eachother in the search for wisdom
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i welcome and encourage any companions who wish to find true faith in the Lord
"He has the whole world...in His hands.."
He has my life in His hands i will fear nothing...the Lord is with me
let us pray my brother
Give, and it shall be given to you. For whatever measure you deal out to others, it will be dealt to you in return.
Amen
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Or my father's grandparents were being shot before his eyes and dumped into the Danube...
Don't get them started on their 'free will' bullshit... :-X
God works in mysterious ways, his wonder to behold.
(http://www.allgreatquotes.com/Images/bible_light.gif)
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Give, and it shall be given to you. For whatever measure you deal out to others, it will be dealt to you in return.
Amen
i know God is capable of doing anything...creator of the universe...he defies our human senses with his unbelievable miracles
hence, why people say "That does not make sense, so i will not believe".
they are putting their faith in their own senses higher than their faith in God
God's ways are HIGHER than our ways!
sweet jebus, i'm all fired up HALLELUJAH
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Do these cover changing atmospheric conditions?
I could say the same about you regarding your diet. Maybe now that some others are weighing in on it you will listen to them...that you need to eat more real (clean) food and work out harder. I'm sure when I told you these things you dismissed them as from a woefully ignorant person ;D
A question I have re: your claim that all that exists are energy and matter, would you say that consciousness = energy?
My diet. Fuck you. Bullshit. On what basis do you think I don't work out hard? What the fuck? Do you have any evidence that I don't work out hard? You need you have chronic insomnia and still be consistent about working out, which is more or less what I am. I work within my physical limitations. I work out hard. How the fuck do you define hard? Fuck you. If I could transfer the chronic insomnia to you I would. Let's see how well you cope then? I don't think too well and what is worse, you would be 'praying' for it to go away. As for real food, you do the math and tell me how I am going to get 200 grams plus of protein in with meals alone? Do you know how expensive meat and fish is? I can't afford all that 'real food'. I already think you are a hypocritical fake; if you don't respond, that will seal it for me.
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i know God is capable of doing anything...creator of the universe...he defies our human senses with his unbelievable miracles
hence, why people say "That does not make sense, so i will not believe".
they are putting their faith in their own senses higher than their faith in God
God's ways are HIGHER than our ways!
sweet jebus, i'm all fired up HALLELUJAH
Fuck yeah!
CAN YOU FEEL HIS PRESENCE!
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My diet. Fuck you. Bullshit. On what basis do you think I don't work out hard? What the fuck? Do you have any evidence that I don't work out hard? You need you have chronic insomnia and still be consistent about working out, which is more or less what I am. I work withtin my physical limitations. I work out hard. How the fuck do you define hard? Fuck you. If I could transfer the chronic insomnia to you I would. Let's see how well you cope then? I don't think to well and what is worse, you would be 'praying' for it to go away. As for real food, you do the math and tell me how I am going to get 200 grams plus of protein in with meals alone? Do you know how expensive meat and fish is? I can't afford all that 'real food'. I already think you are a hypocritical fake; if you don't respond, that will seal it for me.
christ induced meltdown ;D
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Dreadful, horrible things happen in this world.
But also things of amazing beauty and enlightenment.
To make peace with the world, even with its utmost horror, is one of them.
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My diet. Fuck you. Bullshit. On what basis do you think I don't work out hard? What the fuck? Do you have any evidence that I don't work out hard? You need you have chronic insomnia and still be consistent about working out, which is more or less what I am. I work withtin my physical limitations. I work out hard. How the fuck do you define hard? Fuck you. If I could transfer the chronic insomnia to you I would. Let's see how well you cope then? I don't think to well and what is worse, you would be 'praying' for it to go away. As for real food, you do the math and tell me how I am going to get 200 grams plus of protein in with meals alone? Do you know how expensive meat and fish is? I can't afford all that 'real food'. I already think you are a hypocritical fake; if you don't respond, that will seal it for me.
Dang, I didn't mean to hurt your feelings like that! I thought we were having kind of a fun conversation.
Sorry to have upset you.
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Fuck yeah!
CAN YOU FEEL HIS PRESENCE!
CELEBRATE JESUS CELEBRATE !!
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My diet. Fuck you. Bullshit. On what basis do you think I don't work out hard? What the fuck? Do you have any evidence that I don't work out hard? You need you have chronic insomnia and still be consistent about working out, which is more or less what I am. I work withtin my physical limitations. I work out hard. How the fuck do you define hard? Fuck you. If I could transfer the chronic insomnia to you I would. Let's see how well you cope then? I don't think to well and what is worse, you would be 'praying' for it to go away. As for real food, you do the math and tell me how I am going to get 200 grams plus of protein in with meals alone? Do you know how expensive meat and fish is? I can't afford all that 'real food'. I already think you are a hypocritical fake; if you don't respond, that will seal it for me.
If you're so broke why are you spending so much time on getbig, wasting all of our time hating on the beautiful christian faith?
I will pray for you, my son.
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Fuck yeah!
CAN YOU FEEL HIS PRESENCE!
LOL you guys are pretty funny actualy ;D PREACH BROTHA! PREACH!
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Dang, I didn't mean to hurt your feelings like that! I thought we were having kind of a fun conversation.
Sorry to have upset you.
I will ask you again, On what fucking basis do you claim I don't work out hard?
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Sorry to have upset you.
I will pray for you, my son.
I might be an asshole but that amuses me.
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I will ask you again, On what fucking basis do you claim I don't work out hard?
perhaps this one
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z25/Todesfick/fatshots019.jpg)
or maybe this one
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z25/Todesfick/fatshots022.jpg)
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Dreadful, horrible things happen in this world.
But also things of amazing beauty and enlightenment.
To make peace with the world, even with its utmost horror, is one of them.
Easier to make peace with that shit when you stay in the same spot and never leave.
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I will ask you again, On what fucking basis do you claim I don't work out hard?
Well, whiners generally don't work out that hard.
Hope that helps.
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Easier to make peace with that shit when you stay in the same spot and never leave.
Maybe, maybe not.
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I will ask you again, On what fucking basis do you claim I don't work out hard?
Got your PM..I responded
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perhaps this one
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z25/Todesfick/fatshots019.jpg)
or maybe this one
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z25/Todesfick/fatshots022.jpg)
You picked the worst shots? I had to stand on a bucket to get the leg shots; trust me, my legs aren't that bad. I do work out hard. I just have shitty genetics. Nothing I can do about that.
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You picked the worst shots? I had to stand on a bucket to get the leg shots; trust me, my legs aren't that bad. I do work out hard. I just have shitty genetics. Nothing I can do about that.
i would say judging by your pictures jesus doesn't like you very much
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Maybe, maybe not.
Have done both. Believe me that the former is easier than the latter. Wenn du den Zugszwang nicht kennst, kannst du den Rest auch nicht verstehen.
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i would say judging by your pictures jesus evolution doesn't like you very much
Fixed.
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i would say judging by your pictures jesus doesn't like you very much
Maybe he could pray for bigger muscles?
"Strengthen ye the weak hands, and confirm the feeble knees. Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you."
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Have done both. Believe me that the former is easier than the latter. Wenn du den Zugszwang nicht kennst, kannst du den Rest auch nicht verstehen.
You can always make peace with the present moment. For that, experience doesn't matter at all.
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Maybe he could pray for bigger muscles?
"Strengthen ye the weak hands, and confirm the feeble knees. Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you."
although praying would most certainly redeem him, i would suggest the OP picks up another hobby less demanding of his physical abilities
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You can always make peace with the present moment. For that, experience doesn't matter at all.
Frieden? :o Ich werde erst Frieden haben, wenn ich tot bin. Ich schaue mich um und ich sehe eine beschissene Figur, eine aussichtslose Zukunft, ein Leben in der Abgeschiedenheit und keine Moeglichkeit all das zu aendern. Ich bin mir meiner totalen und absoluten Nichtigkeit und Bedeutungslosigkeit bewusst. Rede nicht vom Frieden. Rede lieber von dem Tod, der mir ihn schenkt!
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although praying would most certainly redeem him, i would suggest the OP picks up another hobby less demanding of his physical abilities
You are an idiot. If you think I look like shit now, just imagine how I would look without working out. Then tell me I should pick another hobby. Depp.
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You are an idiot. If you think I look like shit now, just imagine how I would look without working out. Then tell me I should pick another hobby. Depp.
"Those who trust their own insight are foolish, but anyone who walks in wisdom is safe"
Proverbs 28:26
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"Those who trust their own insight are foolish, but anyone who walks in wisdom is safe"
Proverbs 28:26
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Frieden? :o Ich werde erst Frieden haben, wenn ich tot bin. Ich schaue mich um und ich sehe eine beschissene Figur, eine aussichtslose Zukunft, ein Leben in der Abgeschiedenheit und keine Moeglichkeit all das zu aendern. Ich bin mir meiner totalen und absoluten Nichtigkeit und Bedeutungslosigkeit bewusst. Rede nicht vom Frieden. Rede lieber von dem Tod, der mir ihn schenkt!
wan zuletst hast du eine hure gefieked? Das macht alles wieder gut = )
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::) ::) ::)
i think you have a problem with fear
"...trusting the Lord leads to prosperity"
Proverbs 28:25
so let us pray for eachother for faith in God; for faith rebukes fear
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On a serious note Deicide, maybe putting some money aside to see a psychologist or something will help man. No shame in seeking help.
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Frieden? :o Ich werde erst Frieden haben, wenn ich tot bin. Ich schaue mich um und ich sehe eine beschissene Figur, eine aussichtslose Zukunft, ein Leben in der Abgeschiedenheit und keine Moeglichkeit all das zu aendern. Ich bin mir meiner totalen und absoluten Nichtigkeit und Bedeutungslosigkeit bewusst. Rede nicht vom Frieden. Rede lieber von dem Tod, der mir ihn schenkt!
In der besten Stimmung bist du heute ja nicht gerade :-\
Fühlst du dich eigentlich nachher besser, wenn du in dieser Stimmung solche Threads machst?
Keine moralische Frage, reines Interesse meinerseits.
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wan zuletst hast du eine hure gefieked? Das macht alles wieder gut = )
I don't agree.
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In der besten Stimmung bist du heute ja nicht gerade :-\
Fühlst du dich eigentlich nachher besser, wenn du in dieser Stimmung solche Threads machst?
Keine moralische Frage, reines Interesse meinerseits.
Noe. Besser? Kaum. Die Sehnsucht nach dem Tod waechst, bin aber zu feige, um den Schlusstrich zu ziehen. :-\
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we've been pwned to General Topics by Max_Rep!
.....and off to the Relig. board.....
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we've been pwned to General Topics by Max_Rep!
.....and off to the Relig. board.....
Maybe you should give him a hint that there is such a thing.
Saves some time. ;)
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Noe. Besser? Kaum. Die Sehnsucht nach dem Tod waechst, bin aber zu feige, um den Schlusstrich zu ziehen. :-\
Hmmm. Denkst du, dass du keine Todessehnsucht hättest, wenn du einen perfekten Körper, eine vielversprechende Zukunft, und ein tolles Sozialleben hättest?
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we've been pwned to General Topics by Max_Rep!
.....and off to the Relig. board.....
Looks like you have the upper hand now. ;)
Bless you.
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Bless you.
;D
Maybe you should give him a hint that there is such a thing.
Saves some time. ;)
meh, I need to earn the big dollas I make modding here ;D
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Hmmm. Denkst du, dass du keine Todessehnsucht hättest, wenn du einen perfekten Körper, eine vielversprechende Zukunft, und ein tolles Sozialleben hättest?
Ich vermute, dass diese Sachen die Lage dramatisch aendern koennten, aber das ist nur eine Vermutung. Ich weiss es nicht. Denkst du, dass es feige von mir ist, dass ich es nicht schaffe, Selbstmord zu begehen?
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Ich vermute, dass diese Sachen die Lage dramatisch aendern koennten, aber das ist nur eine Vermutung. Ich weiss es nicht. Denkst du, dass es feige von mir ist, dass ich es nicht schaffe, Selbstmord zu begehen?
Dude, wtf, Have you ever been to Africa? I lived here my whole life and there are fuckers all around me who have nothing, and yet they carry on. Genies die kleine sachen in leben.
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Dude, wtf, Have you ever been to Africa? I lived here my whole life and there are fuckers all around me who have nothing, and yet they carry on. Genies die kleine sachen in leben.
Bent Je Afrikaans? Ja, ik was in Afrika. In Kenya en Tanzania.
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Ja eks 'n Afrikaaner lol 8)
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6'11 195 lbs on stage baby!!!
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Ich vermute, dass diese Sachen die Lage dramatisch aendern koennten, aber das ist nur eine Vermutung. Ich weiss es nicht. Denkst du, dass es feige von mir ist, dass ich es nicht schaffe, Selbstmord zu begehen?
See PM.
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quote all you want blue........
heres one for you:
""I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."
-- Stephen Roberts
A slight problem with Mr. Robert's contention:
All it takes is belief in ONE deity to disqualify you from being an atheist. How many other gods a Christian may dismiss is irrelevant.
Saying that a Christian is an atheist, because he doesn't believe in other deities, is about as dumb as claiming that a woman isn't a mother, simply because she doesn't have mulitple children.
Just as a woman needs only ONE child to be a mother, a Christian only has to be in ONE God (The Creator of Heaven and Earth) to be a believer, instead of an atheist.
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A slight problem with Mr. Robert's contention:
All it takes is belief in ONE deity to disqualify you from being an atheist. How many other gods a Christian may dismiss is irrelevant.
Saying that a Christian is an atheist, because he doesn't believe in other deities, is about as dumb as claiming that a woman isn't a mother, simply because she doesn't have mulitple children.
Just as a woman needs only ONE child to be a mother, a Christian only has to be in ONE God (The Creator of Heaven and Earth) to be a believer, instead of an atheist.
by your deduction...the quote is flawed.
the point is that he is asking christians as to why they believe in THEIR God, not others
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once agin help me out what am I doin wrong
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once agin help me out what am I doin wrong
At the far left upper corner when you post, you will see a youtube sign; simply copy the youtube link and place inbetween the brackets and there you go, instant access to video. 8)
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At the far left upper corner when you post, you will see a youtube sign; simply copy the youtube link and place inbetween the brackets and there you go, instant access to video. 8)
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Hell yea!thanks decide you da man...Im not that bright.....but im still smarter than the average bible beater!haha
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I don't like fake jugs.
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"An emotional person rolling around on the floor screaming gibberishwas all the evidence" he needed for the Bible? He must be a former Pentecostal. No wonder he's an atheist now. That is, if he really was a Christian at all. He could just be an atheist just saying that he used to be a Christian.
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good to see Deicide winning the hearts and minds of religious people!