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Is this what won the Olympia for Dexter?
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Is this what won the Olympia for Dexter?
I am going to go with....YES!
Hell there's got to be a 10" difference in waist sizes!
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they are both a mess.
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This is a Ab Thigh shot...
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This is a Ab Thigh shot...
Jay screwed up big time at the 04' Arnold.
Was huge and cut 7 days out.....and the some how lost 25lb during the final week...and looked small (for him)
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Jay screwed up big time at the 04' Arnold.
Was huge and cut 7 days out.....and the some how lost 25lb during the final week...and looked small (for him)
I was at the 04 Arnold. Jay was ripped but his right leg and right biceps were gone, they simply weren't even there. It's all everyone was talking about.
Chris looked incredible, maybe his best ever, he should have won but Cutler received another gift.
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I think Jay looks pretty good in that shot - and I think so does 240.
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This is a Ab Thigh shot...
Chris Cormier wins.
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I am going to go with....YES!
Hell there's got to be a 10" difference in waist sizes!
I would say both are even..
Dexter won the abs but Jay won the thigh shot.
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Is this what won the Olympia for Dexter?
Actually Jay looked 'ok' in that shot. It was the watery lower and glute and hs that did him in at prejudging IMO. Saturday though was the best Jay I've seen since 2006. Jay should just his contest prep back a week or two b/c he always looks amazing a week or two before.
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Jay screwed up big time at the 04' Arnold.
Was huge and cut 7 days out.....and the some how lost 25lb during the final week...and looked small (for him)
Too much T3&T4?
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Bth r bad in this pose.. Jay has a wide waist and Dex. has a high lats..
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Why do people think Dexter has high lats? He defintely doesn't. Dennis James has high lats.
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dude jay won that shot. it is a abs and thigh shot. jay owns him in the entire lower half. jay abs are just as conditioned as dexters, but dexter does have a more narrow waist that is genetic. if you going to give a shot that jay isnt good in go for a front double, not a abs and thigh
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Is this what won the Olympia for Dexter?
Why do all pros gurn so badly now!!! What happened to smiling or trying to keep face normal like the pro's of the '70's??!!
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those are some fucked up diamond shaped cut up, messed up abs jay has got :-\
dester's abs are a turtle shell lol
NINJA TURTLE POWA >:(
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This is a Mr. Olympia ab & thigh pose.
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Actually, that's the one shot that Jay beat him on.
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This is a Mr. Olympia ab & thigh pose.
Soft all the way around.
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dude jay won that shot. it is a abs and thigh shot. jay owns him in the entire lower half. jay abs are just as conditioned as dexters, but dexter does have a more narrow waist that is genetic. if you going to give a shot that jay isnt good in go for a front double, not a abs and thigh
Yes Jay once had better legs but now with his right leg much smaller than his left Dex. beats him in this area..
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Jays waist is wider because he has 5x the muscle on him...its not a gh gut or fat or water, its all muscle, so what is the problem? Do you want your pros to have little girlie waists? Jay is a man, not a figure competitor or a ninja turtle.
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I was at the 04 Arnold. Jay was ripped but his right leg and right biceps were gone, they simply weren't even there. It's all everyone was talking about.
Chris looked incredible, maybe his best ever, he should have won but Cutler received another gift.
They should name Cutler "The Gift", not Phil. CC should have won in 04 and 02, 03
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Jays waist is wider because he has 5x the muscle on him...its not a gh gut or fat or water, its all muscle, so what is the problem? Do you want your pros to have little girlie waists? Jay is a man, not a figure competitor or a ninja turtle.
Jay himself confessed in his last interview before the olympia on bodybuilding.com that his naturally wide waist is a problem for him.. The bones of his waist are naturally wide and he can't change this.. Not all the big guys have wide waits, Denis Wolf for example is a big guy with a small waist..
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This is a Ab Thigh shot...
jay looked extremely bad there ::)
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Jays waist is wider because he has 5x the muscle on him...its not a gh gut or fat or water, its all muscle, so what is the problem? Do you want your pros to have little girlie waists? Jay is a man, not a figure competitor or a ninja turtle.
The problem is that Jays waist looks like dog shit.
Scrambled abs/wavy mess.
At competition bf%, he very little vascularity.
His waist is nearly as wide as his lats
His right quad is 2x smaller than his left
his biceps are like softballs and baseballs compared
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Jay himself confessed in his last interview before the olympia on bodybuilding.com that his naturally wide waist is a problem for him.. The bones of his waist are naturally wide and he can't change this.. Not all the big guys have wide waits, Denis Wolf for example is a big guy with a small waist..
atwood and federov both had naturally wide hip structure too, I dont think that should be held against them...were gonna lose a lot big guys that way and be left with ballerinas.
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The problem is that Jays waist looks like dog shit.
Scrambled abs/wavy mess.
At competition bf%, he very little vascularity.
His waist is nearly as wide as his lats
His right quad is 2x smaller than his left
his biceps are like softballs and baseballs compared
he always had the wavy abs a lot of pros do...that shouldnt be an issue
Also he is about as vascular as Dex in that pic, but what does vasularity have to do with anything,,,i dont think that is judged?.
How come mass monsters like Dorian and Ronnie were forgiven for some asymetrical issues and Jay not...seems unfair. Guys cant get that big without some asymetry.
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nycbull,
you seem to be saying "MASS" is the total deciding factor. Yes, jay is a massive mother, he is thick, dense and muscles are about as matured as you can get. BUT, with this gain in mass, he has sacrificed a lot of the "small things" that IMO would allow a much more pleasing physique to be presented on stage.
Obviously, most of his current issues are 90% due to the hormones/chemicals he has been eating everday for the past 15 years. USE of aas is one thing, ABuse will deliver what u see in Jay.
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nycbull,
you seem to be saying "MASS" is the total deciding factor. Yes, jay is a massive mother, he is thick, dense and muscles are about as matured as you can get. BUT, with this gain in mass, he has sacrificed a lot of the "small things" that IMO would allow a much more pleasing physique to be presented on stage.
Obviously, most of his current issues are 90% due to the hormones/chemicals he has been eating everday for the past 15 years. USE of aas is one thing, ABuse will deliver what u see in Jay.
boon
anyone that lifts weights knows that putting on real dense muscle mass is the most difficult accomplishment to achieve in BB and requires the most work and dedication and should be rewarded highest. I dont think Jay was that off aestheticaly. I also dont get what veins has to do with it, if you can see some striations thats all that is necessary.
I am all for a return to aesthetics but not to guys that look like anatomy charts with tiny waists. Aesthetics has to include guys with a variety of genetic structures ..ie..wide hips, or high set lats so that we dont get a generic look...even Grimek and Ross had wide waists, .It should be OK to have one or two oversized freakish bodyparts ...ie, wolfs shoulders , or Heaths arms.....THis return to aesthetics is good but it cant be an acceptance of boring predictable physiques.......I also want to see posing and presentation judged, cause if a guy has a perfect body and moves like a duck then he doesnt deserve the OLympian title. ( and that doesnt mean bumping and grinding of any lascivious gestures)
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atwood and federov both had naturally wide hip structure too, I dont think that should be held against them...were gonna lose a lot big guys that way and be left with ballerinas.
oh yeah cuz they all have "naturally" wide waists
not from insulin and human growth hormone
this is natural right?
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oh yeah cuz they all have "naturally" wide waists
not from insulin and human growth hormone
this is natural right?
not takling about roid gut and the judges should know the difference.
Look at Chacon, he will get marked down just for having wide hips, thus a wider waist, its wrong.
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Jay kills Dexter in that comparison. This is a muscle sport. It's not the Men's Health next cover model competition ::) The guy with the most muscle who comes in conditioned ,should and usually does win
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Is this what won the Olympia for Dexter?
Jays lats would come out further if he hit the pose like Dex...Jay pulls his arms in close to his head making him look more narrow
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Jay kills Dexter in that comparison. This is a muscle sport. It's not the Men's Health next cover model competition ::) The guy with the most muscle who comes in conditioned ,should and usually does win
yea, 230+lbs at 3% bodyfat... dex is lagging ::)
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This is a Ab Thigh shot...
Poop...
it's raining poop