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Title: kidney function ???
Post by: oldman on October 04, 2008, 06:35:37 AM
my doc says my kidney function is low, anything out there to help my kidneys??? 
Title: Re: kidney function ???
Post by: Rimbaud on October 04, 2008, 07:47:04 AM
Keep yourself well hydrated for starters.
Title: Re: kidney function ???
Post by: Necrosis on October 04, 2008, 08:22:01 AM
my doc says my kidney function is low, anything out there to help my kidneys??? 

pretty vague statement, what was the criteria he used to make that assesment? creatinine? urea? electrolytes? is your filtration rate low? your ADH high?


unless you know the particular issue then its impossible to help or possible dangerous. Do have any of the testing info?
Title: Re: kidney function ???
Post by: oldman on October 04, 2008, 09:18:48 AM
I asked her to send me a copy, she told me I had protein and albumen in my urine, I believe.  She has me on a statin drug and I havent been taking it.  I am very well hydrated, exercise, but she told me not to take supplements.  I take a few...nothing illegal.
Title: Re: kidney function ???
Post by: Necrosis on October 04, 2008, 01:23:12 PM
I asked her to send me a copy, she told me I had protein and albumen in my urine, I believe.  She has me on a statin drug and I havent been taking it.  I am very well hydrated, exercise, but she told me not to take supplements.  I take a few...nothing illegal.

did you take the test after lifting weights?

i will review the literature for you and review lab diagnostics to see if i can help. The statins are hard on the liver, possibly elevating albumin which is a transport protein. Let me get back to you as i honestly havent reviewed renal supplementation all that much.
Title: Re: kidney function ???
Post by: Princess L on October 04, 2008, 09:25:44 PM
I asked her to send me a copy, she told me I had protein and albumen in my urine, I believe.  She has me on a statin drug and I havent been taking it.  I am very well hydrated, exercise, but she told me not to take supplements.  I take a few...nothing illegal.

Have you been trying to lower your cholesterol through dietary measures and exercise instead?
Title: Re: kidney function ???
Post by: oldman on October 04, 2008, 10:13:21 PM
yes, I do eat lots of protein, water, egg whites, skim milk, not many veggies.  one soda a day at most.  I lift dailey, didnt take meds, dont understand the results.

when I get them, I will post. thanks.
Title: Re: kidney function ???
Post by: Princess L on October 05, 2008, 10:54:26 AM
yes, I do eat lots of protein, water, egg whites, skim milk, not many veggies.  one soda a day at most.  I lift dailey, didnt take meds, dont understand the results.

when I get them, I will post. thanks.

You mention not many vegetables and I don't see any whole grains, nor any mention of cardio.  These are all part of the cholesterol equation.  That, along with your genetic predispositon, age, sex, weight, race, other lifestyle components (ie: alcohol, smoking, etc.), all can play a role.

Regardless of whether your Dr. is a pill pusher, apparently there's enough evidence to take responsible action.  This is nothing to mess around with.  High cholesterol is one of the major risk factors for heart disease which can cause a heart attack or stroke.

Please educate yourself.
Title: Re: kidney function ???
Post by: tbombz on October 05, 2008, 10:59:00 AM
You mention not many vegetables and I don't see any whole grains, nor any mention of cardio.  These are all part of the cholesterol equation.  That, along with your genetic predispositon, age, sex, weight, race, other lifestyle components (ie: alcohol, smoking, etc.), all can play a role.

Regardless of whether your Dr. is a pill pusher, apparently there's enough evidence to take responsible action.  This is nothing to mess around with.  High cholesterol is one of the major risk factors for heart disease which can cause a heart attack or stroke.

Please educate yourself.
Princess can you explain how whole grains fit into the cholestrol equation?
Title: Re: kidney function ???
Post by: Necrosis on October 05, 2008, 11:19:13 AM
the reason i ask if you took the test after weight training is because it is natural to find protien in your urine after training. Please do post your full test results if you would like some help, i am currently studying lab dianosis and differential diagnosis and could be of some assistance, even though my opinions would be layman. Any help i can offer, your welcome to. Before recommending anything i think its wise to see the test like you have stated.
Title: Re: kidney function ???
Post by: Princess L on October 05, 2008, 08:13:04 PM
Princess can you explain how whole grains fit into the cholestrol equation?

Whole grains don't contain a magical nutrient that fights disease and improves health. It's the entire package~ ie: elements intact and working together.

Various nutrients, and fiber in whole grains play a role in regulating blood pressure and heart health.  Based on study results, researchers say there is evidence that whole-grains, particularly oats, be part of a cholesterol reduction program. They also say more study is needed.

I'll admit, I went OT, but that was because he mentioned statins yet made no mention of trying to address that health issue.
Title: Re: kidney function ???
Post by: ARAGO on October 05, 2008, 08:26:20 PM
proteinuria is very common in atheletes in general.. especially following very taxing lifting like squats etc.

in fact, many even have hematosis above normal; 6-10 range (where 5 is the max acceptable range)

then again asking people on the internet is the best way to go.
Title: Re: kidney function ???
Post by: tbombz on October 05, 2008, 08:27:44 PM
I wonder if whole grains help lower cholestrol, or if whole grains just dont negatively effect cholestrol (whole grains improve cholestrol when they are substitued for foods that negatively effect cholestrol)
Title: Re: kidney function ???
Post by: oldman on October 06, 2008, 06:18:14 AM
lets not argue, Princess L is trying to help.  I do 30-40 minutes of cardio a day.  I eat oatmeal, fat free cottage cheese, lots of water, chicken, yogurt, drink fusion and water, I will eat some type of beans as well.

do supplements screw up my blood tests?
Title: Re: kidney function ???
Post by: Necrosis on October 06, 2008, 09:47:39 AM
lets not argue, Princess L is trying to help.  I do 30-40 minutes of cardio a day.  I eat oatmeal, fat free cottage cheese, lots of water, chicken, yogurt, drink fusion and water, I will eat some type of beans as well.

do supplements screw up my blood tests?

yes, but can you acquire the blood tests?

post them please.