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Are they doing things differently? Has it stayed the same or have they been using new drugs?
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Are they doing things differently? Has it stayed the same or have they been using new drugs?
about 15 years ago is when adding insulin to gh first became popular
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Well its become a game of "chemical warfare" nowadays, each guy is doing more and more and more. believing that more is better, and not better is better.
The amount of drugs that your average gym rat does nowadays would blow away the cycles of the great bodybuilders of the 90's ( w/the exception of nassar lol ).
So to answer your questions, yea there doing things differently. :)
Are they doing things differently? Has it stayed the same or have they been using new drugs?
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the main reason why they look so shitty nowadays.
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Well its become a game of "chemical warfare" nowadays, each guy is doing more and more and more. believing that more is better, and not better is better.
The amount of drugs that your average gym rat does nowadays would blow away the cycles of the great bodybuilders of the 90's ( w/the exception of nassar lol ).
So to answer your questions, yea there doing things differently. :)
you are a retard ...
Let me exemplify you why ....
The dosages went up ? reaaaaaaaaaaaaaly ::)
Arnold was poppin between 200 and 400 mg pharmagrade dianabol a day plus everyfuckin thing he coud ingest ....
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=75772.0;attach=85369;image)
Oliva was ingesting during his comeback almost 10 g of gear weekly ...basically the guy he was training with stated when asked what Sergio took : " Everything he coud get "
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1386/1427645893_265ef86f10.jpg?v=0)
Those guys were so heavy into orals ....
The only thing that changed was :
- gh+slin ( although gh was omnipresent 15 years ago )
crapier drugs = shittier physiques
adittion of nolotil, synthol and stuff like esiclene
spot injection with cocktails of EVERYTHING .....
the result is : the quality of the physiques decreased due to shitty gear and over reliance on drugs, no solid fundation ....
less talented people ..genetics
Hope you're clear fuxstik ;)
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They took boatloads of drugs back then too...don't kid yourself. They just had fewer drugs to choose from and no HGH, slin, igf-1, t3, clen and diretics. Thats all.
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Hmm...who was the best drug responder ever?
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Hmm...who was the best drug responder ever?
Levrone can go from twink to freak in a 6-12 month period.
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Levrone can go from twink to freak in a 6-12 month period.
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The BB'ers of the 90's were dying in groves from heavy use, so I dont buy for one second that todays BB'ers are using way more. Chemical warfare? I'm not buying it.
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Hmm...who was the best drug responder ever?
Levrone or Dillet.
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The amount of drugs that your average gym rat does nowadays would blow away the cycles of the great bodybuilders of the 90's ( w/the exception of nassar lol ).
Im sorry flexington but if you think levrone, wheeler, yates, dillet etc etc werent on the same amounts of gear as the guys today you are out of your mind. :)
on the professional level muscle mass is directly proportional to doseage and duration and of course RESPONSE TO hormone useage.
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Im sorry flexington but if you think levrone, wheeler, yates, dillet etc etc werent on the same amounts of gear as the guys today you are out of your mind. :)
on the professional level muscle mass is directly proportional to doseage and duration and of course RESPONSE TO hormone useage.
How come the 90s bodybuilders were dropping like flys?
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How come the 90s bodybuilders were dropping like flys?
yes exactly the point.
i actually think the drug regimins of todays pros are probably healthier than of the late 80s early 90s.
with insulin use the amount of AAS can be lowered dramatically .
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i actually think the drug regimins of todays pros are probably healthier than of the late 80s early 90s.
with insulin use the amount of AAS can be lowered dramatically .
::)
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say what your problem is or dont post at all you clown... :-*
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you are a retard ...
Let me exemplify you why ....
The dosages went up ? reaaaaaaaaaaaaaly ::)
Arnold was poppin between 200 and 400 mg pharmagrade dianabol a day plus everyfuckin thing he coud ingest ....
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=75772.0;attach=85369;image)
Oliva was ingesting during his comeback almost 10 g of gear weekly ...basically the guy he was training with stated when asked what Sergio took : " Everything he coud get "
the result is : the quality of the physiques decreased due to shitty gear and over reliance on drugs, no solid fundation ....
less talented people ..genetics
Hope you're clear fuxstik ;)
You took about 1/3 of what Oliva took, why don't you look 1/3 as good?
You really think Arnie took that much? How could he have a liver on that much?
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a lot of the bodybuilders today don't have the crisp conditioning of the guys in the 90's and before.
I'd say dosages have escalated... along with the insulin.
but there were always high dose steroid guys... its the insulin and high dose growth hormone that's different.
X2
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You took about 1/3 of what Oliva took, why don't you look 1/3 as good?
You really think Arnie took that much? How could he have a liver on that much?
nigaa dont believe the hype on 17aa steroids
im sure you know people who drik a 12 pack everynight after work and they are doing just fine arent theyy...??
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say what your problem is or dont post at all you clown... :-*
(http://www.vw.vccs.edu/vwhansd/HIS122/Images/Hiroshima.jpg)
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hope this helps :D This is most pros daily diet
Albuterol new
Albuterol Sulfate
Anabolic DN new
Anabolicum Vister
Anabolicum Vister new
Anadrol 50 (oxymetholone)
Anadur (nandrolone hexylphenylpropionate)
Anatrofin
Anavar (oxandrolone)
Andractim
Andriol (testosterone undecanoate)
AndroGel (transdermal testosterone)
Andropen 275
Arimidex (anastrozole)
Aromasin (exemestane)
Caffeine new
Cheque Drops
Cialis (Tadalafil Citrate)
Cialis new
Cimaterol
Clen
Clenbuterol
Clomid (clomiphene citrate)
Cyclofenil
Cytadren (aminoglutethimide)
Cytomel (liothyronine sodium)
Deca Durabolin (nandrolone decanoate)
Deposterona new
Dianabol / D-bol (methandrostenolone)
Diandrol new
DNP (2,4-Dinitrophenol)
Drive
Durabolin (nandrolone decanoate)
Dynabolan (nandrolone undecanoate)
Ephedrine (Ephedrine Hydrochloride) - Revision 2007-07-25
Ephedrine Hydrochloride
EPO (erythropoietin)
Equilon 100 new
Equipoise (boldenone undecylenate)
Esiclene (Formebolone)
Fareston (Toremifene Citrate)
Faslodex
Finabolan (Tren 75)
Finaplix (trenbolone acetate)
Finasteride (toremifene citrate)
Halotestin (fluoxymesterone)
HCG (human chorionic gonadotropin)
Human Growth Hormone HGH (somatotropin)
IGF
Insulin
Ketotifen
Ketotifen new
Kynoselen new
Laurabolin (nandrolone laurate)
Letrozole (femara)
Libriol
Masteron (drostanolone propionate)
Masteron Enanthate (Drostanolone Enanthate)
Megagrisevit Mono new
Metandesenolone (D-anabol 25)
Methandriol
Methyltestosterone
Methyltrienolone
Miotolan new
Myagen
Myagen - Revision 2007-07-25
Nandeconate (Deca 200)
Nandrolone Phenylpropionate / Methandriol Dipropionate
Nilevar (norethandrolone)
Nolvadex (tamoxifen citrate)
Omnadren
Orabolin (Ethylestranol)
Oral Turinabol
Oxantrione (Var 10)
Parabolan (trenbolone cyclohexylmethylcarbonat e)
Pituitary Growth Hormone (pGH)
Primobolan (methenolone acetate)
Proviron (mesterolone)
PSAG
Sanabolicum
Spectriol
Sten
Sustanon 250
Synthroid
Teslac (testolactone)
Test 400
Testolent
Testosterone CHP
Testosterone Cyclohexylpropionate new
Testosterone Cypionate
Testosterone Enanthate
Testosterone Propionate
Testosterone Suspension
Testoviron
The Clear
The Cream
Trenbolone Enanthate (Trenbolone Base + Enanthate Ester)
Tri Trenabol
Triacana
Vanazolol (Winn-50)
Winstrol (stanozolol)
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Im sorry flexington but if you think levrone, wheeler, yates, dillet etc etc werent on the same amounts of gear as the guys today you are out of your mind. :)
on the professional level muscle mass is directly proportional to doseage and duration and of course RESPONSE TO hormone useage.
Flexington did his first show at a whopping buck forty, he is now an expert ::)
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Flexington did his first show at a whopping buck forty, he is now an expert ::)
i think he looked great at his show.
but to say 90's pros use the same as the average gym rat nowdays... ;D
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i think he looked great at his show.
but to say 90's pros use the same as the average gym rat nowdays... ;D
Exactly, pure BS!
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1 heaps more pharmaceutical drugs available in the 90s as opposed to the home brews of today.
2 Insulin and gh use plain and simple it will make you bigger but not better, and high dosages and overeating cause gut growth and trunk growth, which didn't seem to happen with aas use only
3 also guys in the 90s took way more anabolics than test, the last 10 to 15 years its all been about hgh and test. A lot of the gut bloat you see with guys these days an aromatisation action from using to much test and having higher estrogen levels. Like women do when they are premenstrual and bloat. True.
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I know people who do local shows that in the offseason take 2g of test weekly. Not counting other injectables, orals, growth and insulin.
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nigaa dont believe the hype on 17aa steroids
im sure you know people who drik a 12 pack everynight after work and they are doing just fine arent theyy...??
Candydildo , again what you were told before..dont post this stuff unless you yourself have experienced it .. Experience only comes with time and use,Not what you read in a MD advert..
Hope this helps :-*
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I'll put it this way, the term "all drugs" holds true. I train with a top caliber Nationals competitor and I train a top Nationals competitor (who should win his class at the Nationals), the one I train with, somedays we train his way some days mines. I can keep up with him on HIS days, but on MINE, I kill him. Since my training is more of a combined strength, functional and conditioning and his is more isolation (bodybuilding), he's got sick on more than one occation. See my point?
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(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/DaGonz/jeez.jpg)
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I'll put it this way, the term "all drugs" holds true. I train with a top caliber Nationals competitor and I train a top Nationals competitor (who should win his class at the Nationals), the one I train with, somedays we train his way some days mines. I can keep up with him on HIS days, but on MINE, I kill him. Since my training is more of a combined strength, functional and conditioning and his is more isolation (bodybuilding), he's got sick on more than one occation. See my point?
LOL. That has no point whatsoever in what you were trying to relate it to.
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You took about 1/3 of what Oliva took, why don't you look 1/3 as good?
You really think Arnie took that much? How could he have a liver on that much?
I KNOW....
you need to learn more about hormones first.
may I sugest rummaging through gh15's posts and you'll find there everything you need .
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1 heaps more pharmaceutical drugs available in the 90s as opposed to the home brews of today.
2 Insulin and gh use plain and simple it will make you bigger but not better, and high dosages and overeating cause gut growth and trunk growth, which didn't seem to happen with aas use only
3 also guys in the 90s took way more anabolics than test, the last 10 to 15 years its all been about hgh and test. A lot of the gut bloat you see with guys these days an aromatisation action from using to much test and having higher estrogen levels. Like women do when they are premenstrual and bloat. True.
Thank you !
I'm glad there are people who actually understand and have been around long enough.
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I KNOW....
you need to learn more about hormones first.
may I sugest rummaging through gh15's posts and you'll find there everything you need .
Haha, you know I like bustin your chops.
I don't think those guys (Arnie, etc) took as much or as little as people think. I do think Arnie took more Primo than people think. The guys nowadays load up on way too much test and look like shit. The average guys I knew who had everyone looking at them were on EQ and Winny for the most part...with a little bit of Test. BBers now look like they love on Suspension and then just cut up.
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Levrone can go from twink to freak in a 6-12 month period.
Same with Strydom.
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This is why you have"yugoslavian goat tossing"on espn and no bodybuilding coverage! They know.....
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Flexington did his first show at a whopping buck forty, he is now an expert ::)
:D :D :D
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I'll put it this way, the term "all drugs" holds true. I train with a top caliber Nationals competitor and I train a top Nationals competitor (who should win his class at the Nationals), the one I train with, somedays we train his way some days mines. I can keep up with him on HIS days, but on MINE, I kill him. Since my training is more of a combined strength, functional and conditioning and his is more isolation (bodybuilding), he's got sick on more than one occation. See my point?
Well maybe he just doesn't train really hard, and responds to drugs very well. That is not the case with everyone who uses anabolics! See my point? To say its all drugs across the platform is just ridiculous.
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What is it that causes some of them to age so much and look 10-15 years older and give them a sickly look, and also mess the skin on their faces so much?
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the early 90's were the most extreme times in bodybuilding, they all pushed the boundries steroid wise,,,,,, the borresson yrs