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Title: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 10, 2008, 09:24:42 AM
So, if it were up to getbiggers, would Bush get impeached?  Cast your vote :D
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Busted on October 10, 2008, 10:17:06 AM
There is a woman running for Attorney General in Vermont that if she gets in she is charging Bush with Murder charges.  Apparently there is a gap in the law where they can try him and she already has other attorneys filing suits in other states.

The lead attorney helping her is the attorney that convicted Manson
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Dos Equis on October 10, 2008, 10:49:59 AM
Your poll needs a little more information.  What are the high crimes and misdemeanors?  What is the evidence, for and against? 
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 10, 2008, 10:56:10 AM
Your poll needs a little more information.  What are the high crimes and misdemeanors?  What is the evidence, for and against? 
Hello everybody else knows but you
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Dos Equis on October 10, 2008, 10:58:31 AM
Hello everybody else knows but you

That's why everyone has started impeachment proceedings.  Or is that just Martian Man Kucinich? 

You have no clue. 
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 10, 2008, 11:31:07 AM
That's why everyone has started impeachment proceedings.  Or is that just Martian Man Kucinich? 

You have no clue. 
whatever buttboy, Bush is no longer president on this forum!!!  eat it!!!!!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Dos Equis on October 10, 2008, 11:40:49 AM
whatever buttboy, Bush is no longer president on this forum!!!  eat it!!!!!!!!!! ;D

 ::)
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 10, 2008, 11:58:14 AM
::)
oh come on, you thought it was a little funny, admit it....
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: MCWAY on October 10, 2008, 12:14:26 PM
That's why everyone has started impeachment proceedings.  Or is that just Martian Man Kucinich? 

You have no clue. 

Impeached for what?

Besides, he won't be President in three months (the minimum amount of time it would take to get an impeachment trial started) anyway.

Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Dos Equis on October 10, 2008, 12:17:21 PM
Impeached for what?

Besides, he won't be President in three months (the minimum amount of time it would take to get an impeachment trial started) anyway.



Don't try and inject common sense into this thing. 
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 10, 2008, 12:17:32 PM
Impeached for what?

Besides, he won't be President in three months (the minimum amount of time it would take to get an impeachment trial started) anyway.


we speed shit along here on getbig...
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: headhuntersix on October 10, 2008, 12:23:23 PM
Since we're talking ridiculous bullshit lets arrest Ayers and execute him, along with Rev Wright as well...in fact anybody who pisses me off or I don't agree with. We could lump in all the Dems who thought Fannie and Freddie we're ok last year....we could hang the guys who forced all those sub prime loans....we could round up and bayonette anybody associated with ACORN....who have I missed.  ::)
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Decker on October 10, 2008, 12:25:36 PM
Impeached for what?

...

Why for murder, sir.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=217664.0

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=217794.0

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=217981.0

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=219038.0
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: headhuntersix on October 10, 2008, 12:26:15 PM
Murdered whom?
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 10, 2008, 12:26:24 PM
Since we're talking ridiculous bullshit lets arrest Ayers and execute him, along with Rev Wright as well...in fact anybody who pisses me off or I don't agree with. We could lump in all the Dems who thought Fannie and Freddie we're ok last year....we could hang the guys who forced all those sub prime loans....we could round up and bayonette anybody associated with ACORN....who have I missed.  ::)
How about you, let's arrest you for crimes against humanity, you can go down with Bush and Dick.
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: headhuntersix on October 10, 2008, 12:32:00 PM
U aren't in any position to do that, neither is anybody else on this board, besides we didn;t sign that treaty, so I'm off the hook. And more to the point......nobody really cares.
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 10, 2008, 12:33:50 PM
U aren't in any position to do that, neither is anybody else on this board, besides we didn;t sign that treaty, so I'm off the hook. And more to the point......nobody really cares.
wanna bet
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: headhuntersix on October 10, 2008, 12:35:40 PM
Yeah lets bet......ur really loosing ur mind.  ::)
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Decker on October 10, 2008, 12:43:40 PM
Murdered whom?
American soldiers.
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Dos Equis on October 10, 2008, 12:47:36 PM
Oh not this again. . . .
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: headhuntersix on October 10, 2008, 12:48:26 PM
Yeah ok.....u really need to get past all this....Bush didn't murder anybody. The shitbag ragheads killed them.....remember them. Blame America first...its like the National Anthem to libs....
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: danielson on October 10, 2008, 12:49:29 PM
I like it when a bunch of semi-retards who come to a bodybuilding board everyday to discuss politics with other dimwits take cheap shots at a great man like George Bush.  
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 10, 2008, 12:54:00 PM
Yeah ok.....u really need to get past all this....Bush didn't murder anybody. The shitbag ragheads killed them.....remember them. Blame America first...its like the National Anthem to libs....
yes he did, it's fact and you're in denial.
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: headhuntersix on October 10, 2008, 12:56:50 PM
Damm I didn't know that, who did he murder...with what weapon...or maybe he ran over somebody with AF 1...ur a first class dimwit.
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Decker on October 10, 2008, 03:29:57 PM
Yeah ok.....u really need to get past all this....Bush didn't murder anybody. The shitbag ragheads killed them.....remember them. Blame America first...its like the National Anthem to libs....
Some people use a gun to kill.  Presidents use foreign soldiers to kill american soldiers.  Since the US did not attack Iraq in self-defense and Bush sent the US military into Iraq with full knowledge the Iraqis would fight in self defense against the US forces, he is responsible for those military deaths.

Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: 24KT on October 10, 2008, 03:35:10 PM
How about you, let's arrest you for crimes against humanity, you can go down with Bush and Dick.

There is so much that can be made of that double entendre, but, discretion forces me to let it go bi.  ;)
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: 24KT on October 10, 2008, 03:37:32 PM
Yeah ok.....u really need to get past all this....

No no no, ...not get past all this, ...just let it go bi.
Didn't you read his earlier post, ...or was he shooting over you head?   ;D
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Relentless on October 10, 2008, 04:35:28 PM
You don't have the right to initiate impeachment against a King.

King George is our ruling monarch, and we must all respect his position.

He truly knows what's best for we lowly serfs.

God save the King!
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Hereford on October 10, 2008, 04:39:17 PM
If George Bush is responsibile for murdering our soldiers, Then I want Bill Ford arrested and tried for the murder of my cousin who got hit by an F350 a few years back....
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Decker on October 11, 2008, 05:50:23 AM
If George Bush is responsibile for murdering our soldiers, Then I want Bill Ford arrested and tried for the murder of my cousin who got hit by an F350 a few years back....
Some people use a gun to kill.  Presidents use foreign soldiers to kill american soldiers.  Since the US did not attack Iraq in self-defense and Bush sent the US military into Iraq with full knowledge the Iraqis would fight in self defense against the US forces, he is responsible for those military deaths.

Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Dos Equis on October 11, 2008, 12:46:21 PM
If George Bush is responsibile for murdering our soldiers, Then I want Bill Ford arrested and tried for the murder of my cousin who got hit by an F350 a few years back....

Tell me about it.  Makes absolutely no sense. 
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 11, 2008, 01:44:30 PM
Tell me about it.  Makes absolutely no sense. 
If you plan someone's murder or you make a plan that gets people killed, are you off the hook because you didn't have your hands on the instrument of death?
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Decker on October 11, 2008, 02:23:57 PM
Tell me about it.  Makes absolutely no sense. 
You have to think through the situation before it can make sense.  Reactionary protests, like your own, are beneath you.
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Dos Equis on October 13, 2008, 10:34:34 AM
If you plan someone's murder or you make a plan that gets people killed, are you off the hook because you didn't have your hands on the instrument of death?

Not at all.  Conspiracy to commit murder is a crime.  But that's not what your poll says. 
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Decker on October 13, 2008, 12:41:25 PM
Not at all.  Conspiracy to commit murder is a crime.  But that's not what your poll says. 
You are confusing criminal instrumentality with criminal conspiracy.  CC requires an agreement to kill.  CI does not.
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Dos Equis on October 13, 2008, 04:35:52 PM
You are confusing criminal instrumentality with criminal conspiracy.  CC requires an agreement to kill.  CI does not.

What's "criminal instrumentality"?  A weapon?  If so, I'm not confusing that with conspiracy.  Hugo said "If you plan someone's murder or you make a plan that gets people killed, are you off the hook because you didn't have your hands on the instrument of death?" 

That sounds like conspiracy to me. 
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 13, 2008, 04:55:25 PM
ouch, looks like people here would like to see him impeached even if he only has a short time left :D
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: CQ on October 13, 2008, 08:06:43 PM
Yeah ok.....u really need to get past all this....Bush didn't murder anybody. The shitbag ragheads killed them.....remember them. Blame America first...its like the National Anthem to libs....

Really?

I could have sworn that 4,000+ died in someone else's country after invading it after getting orders to do so.

So, if a nation comes to the USA and invades and occupies it you won't fight back? A basic premise it baffles me people do not get. Foreign troops are on their home soil - so they defend, that is natural.

Anyone comes to USA and invades, they will fight back. If the USA invades here [again] we will fight back. I won't welcome foreign invaders with a glass of lemonade in my best dress aftewr they bombed and killed 10 of my friends? Would any Americans welcome foreign invaders coming and bombing them to smitherreens? No. People defend their homes, that is normal, all nations and people will do that. A basic point.
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Fury on October 13, 2008, 08:24:47 PM
Lol. So now anyone who sends troops to another country should be charged with murder for their deaths? Good to know. Pretty much every standing leader of any country should be impeached then.  ::)

Decker must one shitty lawyer.








So if Obama were to send more troops into Afghanistan or maybe even Pakistan (as he said he'd be open to), then I expect Decker to be calling for murder charges on him?
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 13, 2008, 09:11:10 PM
Lol. So now anyone who sends troops to another country should be charged with murder for their deaths?
Just the ones that lied to congress in the process ;)
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Hereford on October 13, 2008, 09:12:59 PM
Really?

I could have sworn that 4,000+ died in someone else's country after invading it after getting orders to do so.

So, if a nation comes to the USA and invades and occupies it you won't fight back? A basic premise it baffles me people do not get. Foreign troops are on their home soil - so they defend, that is natural.

Anyone comes to USA and invades, they will fight back. If the USA invades here [again] we will fight back. I won't welcome foreign invaders with a glass of lemonade in my best dress aftewr they bombed and killed 10 of my friends? Would any Americans welcome foreign invaders coming and bombing them to smitherreens? No. People defend their homes, that is normal, all nations and people will do that. A basic point.


Most of the insurgents are not Iraqi.

Try again.
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Fury on October 13, 2008, 09:14:17 PM
Most of the insurgents are not Iraqi.

Try again.

Don't bother telling them that. I've been saying it for a year now and it goes ignored.
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 13, 2008, 09:30:59 PM
Don't bother telling them that. I've been saying it for a year now and it goes ignored.
brutal self p'wnage...  A search of Insurgent in your post history shows the following, none of them lecturing us on Insurgents not being Iraqi...


Quote
Gays in Iraq terrorized by threats, rape, murder
in Politics and Political Issues Board


Gays in Iraq terrorized by threats, rape, murder by BerzerkFury
... . "So they can sometimes be targeted by insurgent groups or militias, in part, because of  ...
...  was part of the Mehdi Army, a Shiite insurgent group loyal to the radical anti- ...
 61.1%  BerzerkFury  July 24, 2008, 01:38:26 PM 
  2008 Mr. Afghanistan
in Gossip & Opinions


Re: 2008 Mr. Afghanistan by BerzerkFury
... . "So they can sometimes be targeted by insurgent groups or militias, in part, because of  ...
...  was part of the Mehdi Army, a Shiite insurgent group loyal to the radical anti- ...
 36.3%  musclecenter  July 31, 2008, 05:19:23 AM 
  Religion of peace!!!!
in Politics and Political Issues Board


Re: Religion of peace!!!! by BerzerkFury
...  started executing and beheading every insurgent we captured and put it out on video?  ...
 25.8%  BerzerkFury  April 28, 2008, 03:03:09 PM 
  Heres a thread for bezerkfury and all the....
in Politics and Political Issues Board


Re: Heres a thread for bezerkfury and all the.... by BerzerkFury
...  allows publication of all manners of Insurgent propaganda and videos, so it didn't  ...
 25%  War-Horse  April 20, 2008, 10:03:13 PM 
  The Brave American Soliders "fighting" in Iraq............
in Politics and Political Issues Board


Re: The Brave American Soliders "fighting" in Iraq............ by BerzerkFury
...  a video of US medics trying to save an insurgent they shot 2 times in a firefight. And I  ...
 23%  Neurotoxin  April 02, 2008, 04:31:26 AM 
  Serious question for "bigbobs"
in Y Board - The Player's Club


Re: Serious question for "bigbobs" by BerzerkFury
... , Iraq (CNN) -- In the deadliest single insurgent attack of the Iraq war, a suicide car  ...
...  forces are frequently targeted by insurgents. A similar suicide attack on September  ...
...

Clashes between Iraqi commandoes and insurgent gunmen left four civilians dead and two  ...
...  another incident in the city, suspected insurgents blew themselves up after Kurdish  ...
...  officials said. The attack by suspected insurgents, happened in Hamam al-Alil, a town  ...
 11.4%  Alex23  December 15, 2007, 09:48:15 AM 
  Is the US military the best in the world?
in Politics and Political Issues Board


Re: Is the US military the best in the world? by BerzerkFury
...  of the Iraqi cities and clean up the insurgent problem without breaking a sweat. It's  ...
...  where we're sitting ducks for the insurgents.

And Toxicsandn1g, blowing yourself  ...
 0.2%  240 is Back  March 14, 2007, 04:24:58 PM 
  I hate Muslims Thread
in Y Board - The Player's Club


Re: I hate Muslims Thread by BerzerkFury
...  dipshit. Every single one of those insurgent assholes has what's coming to them. For  ...
...  soldier that dies over there, 20-30 insurgent d-bags go into the hole. ...
 
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Fury on October 13, 2008, 09:33:25 PM
brutal self p'wnage...  A search of Insurgent in your post history shows the following, none of them lecturing us on Insurgents not being Iraqi...



Hahaha, I know for a fact that I've made multiple posts about the majority of suicide bombers being foreigners, how the fact that AQI's leadership was mostly foreigners, how the majority of the worst bombings and other attacks were being carried out by foreigners, making them no different from the Americans and a multitude of other posts about the topic. Yet it went ignored. Why? Because you clowns had no response to it. Ask HeadHunterSix, because I remember him replying to a number of my posts on the topic. Seriously guy, you need to get off my nut sack. It's just sad now.


Whassamatter Hugo? We used to be cool.  :'(                        ::)
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 13, 2008, 10:04:16 PM
Whassamatter Hugo? We used to be cool.  :'(                        ::)
I know, but since the time I outed you as jewish, you've had a vendetta against me ;D  If I had known it was such a taboo for you, I wouldn't have said anything :)
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 13, 2008, 10:36:11 PM
OK, BF, I just did a few more searches... About the only thing I can find is you saying Iran is in Iraq killing our men.  What I didn't find was you lecturing us with any proof.  But hey, you've "been saying it for a year now"  So maybe you can link to one of these alerts of yours...
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Decker on October 14, 2008, 07:11:01 AM
ouch, looks like people here would like to see him impeached even if he only has a short time left :D
As long as the president is collecting federal benefits, he can be impeached.  It follows that he can be impeached now or 10 years from now.

I'll answer the detractors when I wrap up my meeting here at work.
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Benny B on October 14, 2008, 07:25:17 AM
There is a woman running for Attorney General in Vermont that if she gets in she is charging Bush with Murder charges.  Apparently there is a gap in the law where they can try him and she already has other attorneys filing suits in other states.

The lead attorney helping her is the attorney that convicted Manson
That would be Vincent Bugliosi. I recently read his book and it is fantastic. Bush should be placed in handcuffs as soon as he exits the White House.

http://www.prosecutionofbush.com/
Title: Vermont candidate to prosecute Bush if she wins
Post by: Benny B on October 14, 2008, 07:38:32 AM
Vermont candidate to prosecute Bush if she wins
By JOHN CURRAN – Sep 19, 2008

BURLINGTON, Vt. (AP) — Lots of political candidates make campaign promises. But not like Charlotte Dennett's.

Dennett, 61, the Progressive Party's candidate for Vermont Attorney General, said Thursday she will prosecute President Bush for murder if she's elected Nov. 4.

Dennett, an attorney and investigative journalist, says Bush must be held accountable for the deaths of thousands of people in Iraq — U.S. soldiers and Iraqi civilians. She believes the Vermont attorney general would have jurisdiction to do so.

She also said she would appoint a special prosecutor and already knows who that should be: former Los Angeles prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi, the author of "The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder," a new book.

"Someone has to step forward," said Dennett, flanked by Bugliosi at a news conference announcing her plan. "Someone has to say we cannot put up with this lack of accountability any more."


Dennett and two others are challenging incumbent Attorney General William Sorrell, a Democrat, in the Nov. 4 election.

Bugliosi, 74, who gained fame as the prosecutor of killer Charles Manson, said any state attorney general would have jurisdiction since Bush committed "overt acts" including the military's recruitment of soldiers in Vermont and allegedly lying about the threat posed by former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein in speeches that were aired in Vermont and elsewhere.

"No man, even the president of the United States, is above the law," said Bugliosi.

The White House press office didn't respond to a request for comment Thursday. But Republican National Committee spokesman Blair Latoff denounced Dennett.

"It's extremely disappointing that a candidate for state attorney general is more concerned with radical left-wing provocation than upholding the law of Vermont," Latoff said. "These incendiary suggestions may score points among the most fringe elements of American society, but can't be settling for anyone looking for an attorney general."

Anti-Bush sentiment runs deep in Vermont. It's the only state Bush hasn't visited as president, and one whose liberal tendencies make it unlikely he will.

In 2007, the state Senate adopted a resolution calling for Congress to begin impeachment proceedings against Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney.

Last March, the towns of Brattleboro and Marlboro voted to seek indictments against Bush and Cheney over the war, and dozens of other towns voted at town meetings to call for his impeachment.

Sorrell, who is seeking a sixth term, said he doesn't believe a Vermont attorney general would have the authority to charge Bush.

"The reality is, in my view, that unless the crime takes place in Vermont, then I as the attorney general have no authority under Vermont law to be prosecuting the president," Sorrell said.
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Decker on October 14, 2008, 08:22:01 AM
Lol. So now anyone who sends troops to another country should be charged with murder for their deaths? Good to know. Pretty much every standing leader of any country should be impeached then.  ::)

Decker must one shitty lawyer.



So if Obama were to send more troops into Afghanistan or maybe even Pakistan (as he said he'd be open to), then I expect Decker to be calling for murder charges on him?
I'm a good enough lawyer to recognize when someone doesn't know what the hell they are talking about yet still come off as authoritative.

Enter BerzerkFury.

When is a homicide not murder?

Here's a clue:  Self Defense.

Here's something else for you to consider:  Was the invasion GW ordered a justifiable use of force?  Was it self defense of the nation?  Did Bush have a reasonable apprehension of an imminent Iraqi threat to the US, to an ally or to our property?

Or did Bush lie about the threat posed by Iraq...his lies paving the way for an uprovoked attack?

Answer these questions and stop with the Obama hypotheticals b/c you waste my time with that shit.
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Decker on October 14, 2008, 09:16:16 AM
What's "criminal instrumentality"?  A weapon?  If so, I'm not confusing that with conspiracy.  Hugo said "If you plan someone's murder or you make a plan that gets people killed, are you off the hook because you didn't have your hands on the instrument of death?" 

That sounds like conspiracy to me. 
Bush should be impeached.  Bush should be tried for murder.  Here's a site that covers the basics of murder. http://stclguns.homestead.com/Bushrod1.html

 Please note that motive is not an element of first degree murder so it does not have to be proven.

Here's a blurb from that site on the Bugliosi murder theory.

MURDER PROSECUTION VS. PRESIDENT BUSH- LUDICROUS OR LOGICAL ?? - IN JUNE OF 2008, FAMED PROSECUTOR VINCENT BUGLIOSI URGED THAT GEORGE W. BUSH BE PROSECUTED FOR MURDER IN CIVILIAN COURTS OF THE US FOR EACH OF THE + 4,000 DEATHS OF AMERICAN TROOPS IN IRAQ. HE'S DEAD SERIOUS. BUGLIOSI'S BOOK THE PROSECUTION OF GEORGE W. BUSH FOR MURDER LAYS OUT THE EVIDENTIARY CASE FOR A SUCCESSFUL DOMESTIC MURDER PROSECUTION AGAINST BUSH2 IN EACH OF THE RESIDENT COUNTIES OF DEAD US IRAQ WAR CASUALITES. IN CHAPTER FOUR OF HIS BOOK, HE MAKES THE CASE FOR A CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT MURDER CHARGE AGAINST MR. BUSH, BASING IT ON THE THEORY THAT BUSH AND CO-CONSPIRATORS, E.G, DICK CHENEY, ETC., AGREED TO START THE WAR IN IRAQ BASED ON WHITE HOUSE LIES AND FALSE PRETENSES, KNOWING THAT AMERICAN TROOPS WOULD BE KILLED. BUGLIOSI THEN ARGUES FOR VICARIOUS LIABILITY FOR THE SUBSTANTIVE CRIME OF MURDER BASED ON THE ACCOMPLICE LIABILITY THEORY OF COMPLICITY. HE SAYS THAT BUSH2 WAS AN AIDER AND ABETTOR OF THE MURDER OF THE THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN SERVICEMEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE BEEN KILLED IN THE CONFLICT. HIS ARGUMENT FOR MENS REA (A CULPABLE MENTAL STATE) IS GROUNDED ON BUSH2'S LIES AND MISREPRESENTATIONS RE NONEXISTENT WMD'S AND THE FANCIFUL LINK BETWEEN AL KAEDA AND SADDAM, ALL DONE WITH WITH THE INTENT AND PURPOSE OF STARTING A WAR WITH IRAQ, AND WITH ACTUAL KNOWLEDGE (BEING AWARE THAT IT WAS REASONABLY CERTAIN) THAT DEATHS OF AMERICAN TROOPS WOULD BE AN INEVITABLE CONSEQUENCE. AS ALTERNATIVES TO THE INTENT TO KILL MENS REA, HE ARGUES THAT THE PRESIDENT'S STATE OF MIND RELECTED RECKLESSNESS MANIFESTING EXTREME INDIFFERENCE TO THE VALUE OF THE LIVES (WHAT THE COMMON LAW CALLED DEPRAVED HEART MALICE) OF THESE THOUSANDS OF DEAD AMERICAN SERVICEMEN. RE ACTUS REUS (CONDUCT) AND LEGAL CAUSATION, BUGLIOSI ARGUES THAT, THOUGH BUSH2 DID NOT PERSONALLY KILL ANY OF THE TROOPS, HE IS VICARIOUSLY LIABLE FOR THE CONDUCT OF IRAQI RESISTANCE WHO DID DO SO; BUGLIOSI'S LEGAL THEORY IS THAT BUSH USED THE IRAQI RESISTANCE AS AS INNOCENT INSTRUMENTALITY TO DO THE ACTUAL KILLING OF US TROOPS. HE SAYS THAT CONGRESS WAS NOT COMPLICITOUS, BUT RATHER A VICTIM OF THE BUSH2 LIES AND DELIBERATE MISREPRESENTATIONS.



BUGLIOSI HAS VOLUNTEERED HIS WHOLE-HEARTED ASSISTANCE IN ANY SUCH PROSECUTION, EITHER AS AN ADVISOR OR AS A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR. HE SUGGESTS IN A DEGREES OF MURDER JURISDICTIONS THAT THE CHARGE COULD BE FIRST-DEGREE MURDER, MAKING THE DEATH PENALTY WITHIN THE POSSIBLE RANGE OF  PUNISHMENT. HE SAYS THAT HE WILL NOT REST UNTIL THE PRESDENT FACES A JURY IN A MURDER TRIAL. AGREEING THAT A PROSECUTION COULD NOT COMMENCE UNTIL THE PRESIDENT LEAVES OFFICE ON 1-20-09, THE HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL PROSECUTOR, TURNED BEST-SELLING AUTHOR, NOTES THE TRADITIONAL RULE THAT THERE IS NO STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS ON THE CRIME OF MURDER. BUGLIOSI SAYS THAT THE IDEAL VENUE WOULD BE WASHINGTON, D.C. [QUERY: DO YOU THINK ANY PROSECUTOR IN THE STATES OR DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA WILL HAVE THE MORAL GUMPTION OR TEMERITY TO TAKE BUGLIOSI'S SUGGESTION?] [NOTE: THE BOOK LAYS OUT IN DETAIL THE LEGAL AND FACTUAL BASIS FOR A SUCCESSFUL MURDER PROSECUTION AND THE ARGUMENT FOR TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION IN ANY COUNTY FROM WHICH A DEAD SERVICEPERSON HAILS; IT'S ALSO CHOCK-FULL OF WHAT APPEARS TO BE WELL-RESEARCHED DOCUMENTARY PROOF; FOR $18, IT'S NOT A BAD READ EITHER FOR LAW STUDENTS STUDYING THE LAW OF CRIMES AND DEFENSES OR FOR PRACTICING PROSECUTORS SEEKING JUSTICE AGAINST "EVILDOERS."]
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: George Whorewell on October 14, 2008, 04:50:20 PM
Yes, Bush should be impeached right now. And it is going to happen one day. But he wont go to jail or get the death penalty, he will be sent to guantanamo and be interogated by Nancy Pelosi until he admits he was the 911 mastermind. 
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Hereford on October 14, 2008, 05:00:00 PM
I have a friend who saw him walking into WTC2 with a cutting torch and a mischevious grin on 9-10-01...   :o






















































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Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Decker on October 15, 2008, 06:26:12 AM
HAHAHa.  Those are good.

I saw Bush lie to Congress and the American people 50+  times (documented) re Iraq's WMDs and ties to Al Qaeda.  With those lies he convinced 70% of americans that Hussein was behind the 9/11 attacks.  What a scream.  With those lies, he ginned up his support for the invasion.

That's a hoot.

When he ordered the invasion, thousands of american soldiers were not laughing.

Don't even ask what the Iraqi civilians thought about the hilarious Bush antics.
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: OzmO on October 15, 2008, 07:10:46 AM
There were hitler loyalist even after his cowardly suicide   :D
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Decker on October 15, 2008, 09:10:53 AM
There were hitler loyalist even after his cowardly suicide   :D
The party of personal responsiblity strikes again.  I think they mean personal responsibility for democrats, minorities and really, any non-republican person.
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 15, 2008, 10:50:15 AM
(http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/images/nuremberg_defendants.jpg)

Would be nice...
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: tonymctones on October 15, 2008, 11:00:28 AM
Some people use a gun to kill.  Presidents use foreign soldiers to kill american soldiers.  Since the US did not attack Iraq in self-defense and Bush sent the US military into Iraq with full knowledge the Iraqis would fight in self defense against the US forces, he is responsible for those military deaths.
what about the increase in violence after obama and other dems stated publicly that the surge was not working and doomed? Do they hold no responsibility for those deaths under your logic?
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Hereford on October 15, 2008, 11:14:20 AM
No, that will be Bush's fault too..... Somehow.....
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: loco on October 15, 2008, 12:46:50 PM
Trump votes Yes.

"He lied. He got us into the war with lies," Trump said. And I mean — look at the trouble Bill Clinton got into with something that was totally unimportant. And they tried to impeach him, which was nonsense. And yet Bush got us into this horrible war with lies, by lying, by saying they had weapons of mass destruction, by saying all sorts of things that turned out not to be true."

In the wide-ranging interview set to air on CNN's The Situation Room at 4, 5, and 6 p.m. Wednesday, Trump also praised John McCain and said the Arizona senator still has a chance to win the White House despite recent polls showing he is substantially trailing Barack Obama.

"He's a very smart guy, he's a tough guy," he said. "I think he'd be a great president. But, he has to be John McCain and he could still probably pull it out. But, it's going to be tough."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Dos Equis on October 15, 2008, 02:42:46 PM
Yes, let's have all those senators who authorized and funded the war serve as judge and jury for the man who carried out their mandate.  Makes zero sense. 
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: The Coach on October 15, 2008, 03:59:25 PM
2 years ago the Dems said they would try to impeach Bush....after they won you heard nothing of this anymore. The reason? They don't have anything legit to impeach him on.
Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: w8tlftr on October 15, 2008, 08:19:07 PM
2 years ago the Dems said they would try to impeach Bush....after they won you heard nothing of this anymore. The reason? They don't have anything legit to impeach him on.

Paper Tiger

Title: Re: Getbig Vote to Impeach Bush
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 15, 2008, 08:36:24 PM
2 years ago the Dems said they would try to impeach Bush....after they won you heard nothing of this anymore. The reason? They don't have anything legit to impeach him on.
no they didn't, that's a lie.  Some dems called for it, it was not a platform the party ran on so that's a lie.