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Title: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: 24KT on October 13, 2008, 05:01:47 PM
To all the Canadians on the board, ...hope you're all having a Happy Thanksgiving.

As Canadians, we have a lot to be thankful for, ...namely, ...we're not Americans.

Don't forget to Go out & Vote Tomorrow to make sure we remain Canadians.

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Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: Hereford on October 13, 2008, 09:11:10 PM
75% of your countrymen are defacto Americans anyways... The rest are in Quebec.

Canada will be part of the US with in the next 100 years.
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: 24KT on October 13, 2008, 10:17:53 PM
75% of your countrymen are defacto Americans anyways... The rest are in Quebec.

Canada will be part of the US with in the next 100 years.

Thankfully, I will be dead by then
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: Purge_WTF on October 13, 2008, 11:46:39 PM
Hopefully, I will be dead by then

  Fixed.
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: Benny B on October 13, 2008, 11:48:23 PM
  Fixed.
You will be dead too, jackass.  ::)
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: MB_722 on October 13, 2008, 11:57:52 PM
You will be dead too, jackass.  ::)

LOL :)

Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: marcus on October 14, 2008, 12:13:10 AM
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Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: 24KT on October 14, 2008, 12:20:07 AM
Actually, this thanksgiving, Canadians were grateful that our economy isn't going to take the nosedive that the US and the rest of the world's economies are taking.

The IMF has declared that out of all the Western nations, Canada has the most stable banking industry, and is again expected to outperform all the G7 nations. So, you can stick that in your pipe and smoke it.  8)

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Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: loco on October 14, 2008, 02:15:09 AM
Is it true that Canada is USA's mentally retarded, little brother?
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: 24KT on October 14, 2008, 02:33:14 AM
Is it true that Canada is USA's mentally retarded, little brother?

no
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: Dos Equis on October 14, 2008, 11:01:11 AM
Is it true that Canada is USA's mentally retarded, little brother?

Hahahahahaha!  Yes.   :D
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: Hereford on October 14, 2008, 11:30:21 AM
Canada is to the US what Georgia is to Russia...
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: w8tlftr on October 14, 2008, 03:34:48 PM
Is it true that Canada is USA's mentally retarded, little brother?

LOL
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: Option D on October 14, 2008, 03:36:06 PM
To all the Canadians on the board, ...hope you're all having a Happy Thanksgiving.

As Canadians, we have a lot to be thankful for, ...namely, ...we're not Americans.

Don't forget to Go out & Vote Tomorrow to make sure we remain Canadians.

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eh i love being american...
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: 24KT on October 14, 2008, 06:43:32 PM
If we are your mentally retarded little brother, why is our banking system more stable than yours?
Why are our financial markets the most stable of all the western industrialized countries?
Why will Canada surpass all the G7 nations this year?

...and why did you guys go through 8 yrs of Bush?
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: 24KT on October 14, 2008, 06:44:43 PM
eh i love being american...

If and when Obama is elected, being American may soon become something to be proud of again.  :)
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: tonymctones on October 14, 2008, 06:53:54 PM
If and when Obama is elected, being American may soon become something to be proud of again.  :)
::) moronic statement right there
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: Dos Equis on October 14, 2008, 09:01:38 PM
And why do we have about 800,000 Canadians in this country?   ::)
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: 24KT on October 14, 2008, 09:21:38 PM
And why do we have about 800,000 Canadians in this country?   ::)

What do I look like Jeeves? Not sure where you got your numbers from, but I'm assuming if they were correct, probably for the money, ...but we all know that won't last long. We do know there's been a massive influx of Americans up here because Bush has been screwing up your country. We've seen some of the highest numbers in over 30 yrs. http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3433005 (http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3433005)
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: 24KT on October 14, 2008, 09:24:34 PM
To all the Canadians on the board, ...hope you're all having a Happy Thanksgiving.

As Canadians, we have a lot to be thankful for, ...namely, ...we're not Americans.

Don't forget to Go out & Vote Tomorrow to make sure we remain Canadians.

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Well, we should be grateful we kept those bastards from getting a majority government,
...and I'm glad my MP kept her seat in Parliament.

I never thought I'd say this, ...but I'm very grateful to the BQ for shutting that fvcker down in Quebec.
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: w8tlftr on October 15, 2008, 03:55:25 AM
What do I look like Jeeves? Not sure where you got your numbers from, but I'm assuming if they were correct, probably for the money, ...but we all know that won't last long. We do know there's been a massive influx of Americans up here because Bush has been screwing up your country. We've seen some of the highest numbers in over 30 yrs. http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3433005 (http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3433005)

That's just more of a burden on your government sponsored health care system and social infrastructure.

Enjoy your white Mexicans.  :-\

Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: w8tlftr on October 15, 2008, 06:06:48 AM
Congrats, Judi?

Canadian PM Harper re-elected

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/10/15/canada.vote.ap/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/10/15/canada.vote.ap/index.html)

The Liberal Party, long Canada's top party, suffered a severe drubbing, dropping to 76 seats from 95 in the previous Parliament, according to the election agency. Bloc Quebecois won 50 seats, the New Democrats 37 and independent candidates 2.

Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: Fury on October 15, 2008, 06:18:17 AM
Congrats, Judi?

Canadian PM Harper re-elected

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/10/15/canada.vote.ap/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/10/15/canada.vote.ap/index.html)

The Liberal Party, long Canada's top party, suffered a severe drubbing, dropping to 76 seats from 95 in the previous Parliament, according to the election agency. Bloc Quebecois won 50 seats, the New Democrats 37 and independent candidates 2.



Apparently most Canadians got tired of listening to some wannabe pseudo-intellectual who claims to have the same IQ as Einstein while peddling fraudulent gas caps for a living?
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: Dos Equis on October 15, 2008, 02:57:08 PM
What do I look like Jeeves? Not sure where you got your numbers from, but I'm assuming if they were correct, probably for the money, ...but we all know that won't last long. We do know there's been a massive influx of Americans up here because Bush has been screwing up your country. We've seen some of the highest numbers in over 30 yrs. http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3433005 (http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3433005)

I wasn't really asking you a question.  The string of questions were rhetorical. 

It is likely that hundreds of thousands of Canadians move here for the same reason people from all over the world are trying to move here:  it's a better country with better opportunities. 
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: 24KT on October 16, 2008, 03:43:05 PM
Congrats, Judi?

Canadian PM Harper re-elected

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/10/15/canada.vote.ap/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/10/15/canada.vote.ap/index.html)

The Liberal Party, long Canada's top party, suffered a severe drubbing, dropping to 76 seats from 95 in the previous Parliament, according to the election agency. Bloc Quebecois won 50 seats, the New Democrats 37 and independent candidates 2.


Congratulations?   :-\   This was just a big colossal waste of tax-payer money.

Harper broke his own initiative to call a snap election within 2.5 months, thinking he could possibly snatch a majority parliament before the economic shit hit the fan. He didn't expect the worldwide financial markets to tank mid campaign though. At least we kept him from getting his majority. So we're back with a Harper minority government, ... and now a possible new leader for the Liberal party. Dion is the first Liberal party leader to not win an election. I have a feeling it might be either one of two former college room-mates Bob Rae or Michael Ignatieff. I'm cool with either one.

Some good news did come out of this though, ...Justin Trudeau won a seat away from the Bloc Quebecois in Papineau. Some people are saying he has a run at the leadership, ...but I doubt it, ...not for at least another decade.
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: Tapper on October 16, 2008, 06:06:16 PM
Canadians dont even get to vote for their Prime Minister. They vote for their area MP only. By voting for him, you are voting for whomever it is in that party who is running for Prime Minister.

So you can like the area MP you voted for but hate the guy who is running from PM. One vote is all Canadians get, and the name of the potential PM is not on the ballot. Not much say in the government.
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: CQ on October 16, 2008, 06:42:54 PM
Happy thanksgiving to Judi and the Canadians here.
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: 24KT on October 17, 2008, 05:11:18 AM
Canadians dont even get to vote for their Prime Minister. They vote for their area MP only. By voting for him, you are voting for whomever it is in that party who is running for Prime Minister.

So you can like the area MP you voted for but hate the guy who is running from PM.

I'd rather have our system than be subject to one where the population votes for the guy they'd like to have a beer with even though they know he'd suck at running the country. Then you're stuck with the moronic nimrod for 4 years.

For those of you who perhaps might be interested in how our Canadian Parliamentary system works:

We Canadians DO vote for our Prime Minister (1st minister). MP stands for Minister of Parliament (colloquially termed 'Member of Parliament'). Each area riding (aka district) gets a seat in Parliament (House of Commons). This ensures that every riding (region) has a seat in Parliament and the same goes for MPP's (ministers of provincial parliaments). These ridings are dispersed similarly to your electoral college, in that ridings are determined by regions, population dispersal, economics etc.,. The Leader of the party that gets the most seats or ministers elected to Parliament is called the Prime Minister (or the 1st minister, the big guy, the PM), and on the provincial level, s/he is known as the Premiere, and is elected by the party members. The political party with the 2nd most seats elected to parliament, forms the Official Opposition, and all other party seats elected to parliament form the opposition.  Each MP, at the Federal level or MPP at the provincial level has the ability to draft legislation (bills) and vote on proposed legislation that influences government policy, with certain MP's selected by the Prime Minister (usually from his/her own party) to form a cabinet (Secretary) in charge of certain government depts, with opposition MP's acting as critics or watchdogs to ensure that sound policies for progressing the country are in fact being implemented within their respective departments.

Our system of leadership at the federal level is not based on a popularity contest or upon whom we'd rather have a beer with. It is based upon collective political ideologies within a party, and it's from within the party itself that the party's agenda is shaped for progressing the country, not from the dictatorial whims of one individual, or his/her ability to court big money donations for 2 years. Party members vying for leadership, present their plans, ideas, goals and strategies for progressing the country, and party members vote for the one they want. This process can involve a number of ballots and run off elections until a clear agenda is adopted and a party leader emerges. Each party leader then presents their agenda for progressing the nation, and Canadians vote on each agenda by electing a local representative (a minister) to occupy a seat in parliament to implement the chosen leader's plan. Since the PM cannot be in every riding at once, the minister is basically the surrogate PM for that local riding.

Our Canadian parliament is made up of 308 seats. Obviously, not all those seats will be occupied by members of the same party, as a result, political parties MUST work together co-operatively, in the interests of the nation as a whole in order to get anything done. This ensures that good policies are put forth in the interests of ALL Canadians, because in the case of a minority government, opposition members have the ability to declare no-confidence, topple parliament and dissolve any Prime Minister's mandate to govern.

We saw this happen in the late 80's here in Ontario when the conservatives won a squeaker of a minority government in provincial parliament by only 4 seats. The Liberals under David Petersen came in 2nd as the official opposition, and Bob Rae (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Rae) then of the NDP came in 3rd as opposition. Bob Rae didn't like what the Conservatives were doing to working families in Ontario, nobody did, ...so opposition leader Bob Rae threw his party's support behind official opposition leader David Petersen and together, the Liberals and the NDP through their new accord, toppled the Conservative government and made official opposition leader David Petersen the new Premiere of Ontario (Governor) without Ontario voters having to go back to the polls at great tax-payers expense.

This obscure little opposition leader Bob Rae, who had previously brought down Joe Clarke's Conservative government at the federal level after only 8 months, became known as 'The KingMaker', who also ended a 40 yr Conservative stranglehold on Ontario provincial politics. As a result of that co-operative partnership across the floor, and ability to get things done in provincial parliament, ...by the time David Petersen called a snap election, (in an attempt to secure a majority government to last him through an imminent North American recession ...just like Harper just attempted) Bob Rae was sooo popular and respected among all Ontarions, Petersen was pushed out and Bob Rae won a resounding majority mandate to govern. Every single riding across Toronto went to the NDP. My boyfriend at the time who was a staunch Tory supporter, almost had a heart attack when he heard the election results. Even though Rae was a member of the NDP, he had very strong Liberal ties, and his politics were so centrist, that with the exception of a few social issues of extreme importance to the left, it was difficult to tell him apart from the Liberals. That's probably why his Liberal-NDP accord worked so well.

The electoral system we use is called "First past the post". It is the same system used by the United States, Great Britain, and Australia. Interestingly enough, Canada, US, Great Britain, and Australia, are the only western nations to still use 'First pass the post'. Basically 'winner takes all'.

In our previous provincial election, a referendum was held to see if we should change our system to one of proportional representation, where we select a Minister and a party, but we overwhelmingly rejected it in favour of our current system. Israeli or Italian parliamentary coalition goverments have proven to be highly unproductive, if not abysmal failures, and our parliamentary style was far too familiar to us to suddenly reject for something new. That and the fact that it was thrust upon us with very little time to fully examine and understand the mechanism by which our governments would now be formed destined the proposal to failure.

The challenge Liberals faced this federal election is that Dion has a real image problem, especially in English Canada.
While being extremely skilled, intelligent, and having an excellent track record of getting things done, both domestically and on the foreign stage, especially his outstanding job as Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs in the Crétien government, where he pretty much laid the issue of Quebec sovereignty to rest, to his achievements as Environment Minister under Paul Martin's government, and his chairing of a deadlocked UN Conference on Climate Change, ...despite all this, his awkward command of the english language and his nerdy appearance made him come across as a temperamental, pouty, wimp, ...especially in English Canada, ...and especially in contrast to Jack Layton's in your face chest strutting bravado, and Stephen Harper's image of a reflective, thoughtful, strong but silent family man in a blue sweater.

Despite being the most intelligent, most experienced and most capable leader vying for PM, he'd never really been in a dogfight in or outside of Quebec. His, was reputed to be one of the safest Liberal ridings in Quebec, and for much of English Canada which hadn't quite been able to digest his green shift platform, he just came off as a wimp, a goofy, nerdy, academician with an extremely awkward command of the english language and inability to clearly articulate his platform without getting tongue-tied.

Harper knew the economy was about to tank, and tried to secure a majority before it became a liability. He lined his ducks all up in a row, had his campaign of style over substance all set and ready to go, then he announced a federal election to take place in 37 days, leaving everyone else to scramble to put a campaign together.

Just take a look for yourself, ...just based on a glance, who imparts the most confidence in their ability to lead.

   (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Stephen_Harper_%28Official_Photo%29.jpg/225px-Stephen_Harper_%28Official_Photo%29.jpg)                (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/77/Stephane_dion_rally_head.jpg/225px-Stephane_dion_rally_head.jpg)

Stephen Harper (Conservatives)                       Stéphane Dion (The Liberals) 
 
   (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/LaytonPortrait.jpg/225px-LaytonPortrait.jpg)                (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/51/Elizabeth_May.jpg/225px-Elizabeth_May.jpg)

Jack Layton (New Democratic Party)             Elizabeth May   (The Green Party)


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 Gilles DuCeppe  (Le Bloc Quebecois)

And then we had Gilles DuCeppe, leader of the Quebec Secessionist party Le Bloc Quebecois.

Canadians did NOT want another election again, and many protested by simply not voting. It was the worst voter turn out in Canadian history, and instead of the usual 3 way race between the left (NDP), the centre (The Liberals), and the right (The Conservatives), this election had 5 major candidates, and 4 main candidates in the rest of Canada since the Bloc only runs candidates in Quebec. In addition to Dion's image problem, the right fielded only one candidate, while the left and centre vote was mainly split 4 ways among the other major candidates, along with a bunch of fringe party candidates spread throughout the rest of the country such as:

Animal Alliance Environment Voters Party of Canada
Canadian Action Party
Christian Heritage Party of Canada
Communist Party of Canada
First Peoples National Party of Canada
Libertarian Party of Canada
Marijuana Party of Canada
Marxist Leninist Party of Canada
Neorhino
Newfoundland and Labrador First Party
People's Political Power Party of Canada
Progressive Canadian Party
Western Block Party
Work Less Party

Yep, each one of those parties had candidates at the federal level, thankfully not in each riding.

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One vote is all Canadians get, and the name of the potential PM is not on the ballot. Not much say in the government.

btw Tapper, that's how a democracy works; one person, one vote, as opposed to some countries where ballots aren't even counted, voters disenfranchised by being illegally purged from voter lists, leaders sElected to rule by partisan supreme court decisions, rigged electronic voting devices, and unconstitutional abdications of congressional oversight achieved through rubber stamps and threats of martial law. {spit}

We don't need the potential PM's name on the ballot, ...unlike partisan convention speakers in some countries, who don't even know their candidates names, ...introducing Joe Biden as John McCain, and Sarah Palin as Sarah Pawlenty, or voters who refer to their chosen candidate as Osama bin Bama, ...our ordinary citizens know who our leaders are, which potential PM we are voting for when we cast a ballot, as well as what they stand for, ...and instead of being stuck for 4 years with an unwanted lying treasonous prick who immediately upon sElection, sets about betraying the few people who were foolish enough to vote for him, and the population as a whole by pooping on the Constitution and running the country into the ground for the next 4-8 yrs, any minister can topple the government at any time if the population wishes it. The ability to topple parliament is a pretty big say.
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: 24KT on October 17, 2008, 05:48:41 AM
Happy thanksgiving to Judi and the Canadians here.

Thanks CQ. Turkeys this side of our border can now breathe a sigh of relief, ...for a few months anyway.  :)
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: Tapper on October 17, 2008, 10:45:30 AM
Exactly the reply I expected form you Jag. All I had to read was the 1st sentence.

You try to whitewash the fact that you DONT really vote for who you want as PM.  Thats all there is too it. Pathetic.

Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: Hereford on October 17, 2008, 10:50:13 AM
The first line of any essay will usually tell you where it is headed....
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: Fury on October 17, 2008, 10:52:19 AM

For those of you who perhaps might be interested in how our Canadian Parliamentary system works:



No one is. STFU. Like Tapper said, it's hilarious that a liberal like you is justifying the fact that you really have no say in who your prime minister is.
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: 24KT on October 17, 2008, 03:02:26 PM
For those of you with comprehension problems, that IS how we choose our Prime Minister,
...by sending his local representative to the House of Commons.
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: Tapper on October 17, 2008, 03:10:04 PM

You send his local rep to the house of commons? But for that to happen, every riding in Canada would have to have elected a Conservative MP. The Tories won every riding? I dont think so.

So you dont actually vote for your PM.

As I stated before, you can like your local MP and vote for him but hate the PM candidate and have no choice because if you vote for the local MP, you are voting for his party. You have NO chance to vote for a different party candidate for PM.

Thats freedom at it was intended to be. ::)
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: 24KT on October 17, 2008, 03:49:37 PM
You send his local rep to the house of commons?

Correct, you send his or her local rep to the house of Commons.

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But for that to happen, every riding in Canada would have to have elected a Conservative MP.

No, not at all. That's why governments are formed from either a minority or a majority of seats.

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The Tories won every riding? I dont think so.

I never said they did. The closest I've ever seen any party come to sweeping every riding in the country was in the 93 elections when Jean Charest was the only Conservative MP elected across the entire country, ...a strong federalist and centrist conservative who later had to cross the floor and assume leadership of the Quebec liberals in an attemp to keep Quebec in confederation.

The entire electoral map was bright red. The Liberals swept the polls across the country, the Bloc Quebecois soared in Quebec, and neither the Conservatives nor the NDP gathered enough votes to even keep official party status.

There were so many Liberals sent to Ottawa, there weren't enough seats to house them all, ...and the conservative PM couldn't even hang onto her own seat. Our federal government was formed by the Liberals and our official opposition was a secessionist party from Quebec. Election results were decided by the results in Quebec and Ontario, and the rest of the votes west of Ontario didn't matter. By the time the votes in western Canada were tallied, they looked pretty much the same with a small smattering of NDP seats, but still not enough to give them official party status. It was the most stunning and decisive victory I'd ever seen.

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So you dont actually vote for your PM.

yes we do.

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As I stated before, you can like your local MP and vote for him but hate the PM candidate and have no choice because if you vote for the local MP, you are voting for his party. You have NO chance to vote for a different party candidate for PM.

Thats freedom at it was intended to be. ::)

What you describe is what you guys appear to be stuck with. How many Republicans want Ron Paul, ...but are stuck with MCain if they vote Republican?

What we have is a parliamentary system that works for us and produces responsible governments, unlike a two party system that produces nothing but gridlock.

Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: Tapper on October 17, 2008, 04:31:56 PM
Who gives a fuck about the history, Jag.

You voted NDP, Jag. Did your ballot have the name Jack Layton on it? No it didnt, so you didnt get to vote for him. Thats ALL I wanted to know.

Why cant you answer a simple question instead of trying to put your bullshit whitewash spin on everything?

It was a simple fucking question.
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: w8tlftr on October 17, 2008, 04:32:24 PM
I don't care about Loonie politics... only your beer.

That is all.

Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 17, 2008, 04:34:35 PM
Many times it seems Canadians have a certain "Canuck" look to them.

Jack Layton look's the least "Canadian" in my opinion.

haha  ;D
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: MB_722 on October 17, 2008, 05:01:38 PM
thanks for the info Jag  :)
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: 24KT on October 18, 2008, 01:41:17 AM
Who gives a fuck about the history, Jag.

You voted NDP, Jag. Did your ballot have the name Jack Layton on it? No it didnt, so you didnt get to vote for him. Thats ALL I wanted to know.

Why cant you answer a simple question instead of trying to put your bullshit whitewash spin on everything?

It was a simple fucking question.

No I did not vote NDP. I would never vote for a leftist like Jack Layton to ever be Prime Minister. Jack's interests are not in the promotion of Canada, but in the promotion of Jack Layton and his communist wife. I personally voted for Stéphane Dion and the Liberal Party of Canada. No Stephane Dion's name was not on the ballot, his representative from my local riding was, so I voted for Stéphane Dion to be Prime Minister of Canada by marking an X in the circle marked Liberal, beside his party representative's name. The end result of Tuesday's voting was that my local riding voted for Stéphane Dion for Prime Minister by voting Liberal to send his representative to Ottawa to sit in the House of Commons. Do you understand it now?
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: CQ on October 18, 2008, 02:06:09 AM
Canadians dont even get to vote for their Prime Minister. They vote for their area MP only. By voting for him, you are voting for whomever it is in that party who is running for Prime Minister.

So you can like the area MP you voted for but hate the guy who is running from PM. One vote is all Canadians get, and the name of the potential PM is not on the ballot. Not much say in the government.

Like most of the world we also use the Westminster system, and it has served us well. Unless you consider the fact that the nation is funded by exterior sources of money hence letting the citizens off paying any income, sales or capital gains tax whatsoever giving far higher average net incomes, having free heath and college, balanced budgets and all those things a failed nation. Canada also has done okay for itself under the Westminster, a good nation. Same with much of Europe, Australia etc.
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: garebear on October 18, 2008, 02:52:38 AM
Apparently most Canadians got tired of listening to some wannabe pseudo-intellectual who claims to have the same IQ as Einstein while peddling fraudulent gas caps for a living?

You never get tired of that, man.

Never.
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: 24KT on October 18, 2008, 03:13:20 AM
I don't care about Loonie politics... only your beer.

That is all.



{giggle} You've obviously never seen my local 3 time incumbent MP. The woman is F-in HOT!!!! You'd like her.
At 30, She became the youngest woman ever elected to Parliament, and the 1st Indian woman ever elected.
She's a Doctor who along with her brother owns a chain of chiropractic clinics, she's a former Miss India/Canada,
a former Bollywood actress, recently voted by Maxim magazine as one of the top 3 hottest politicians on the planet.

(http://cdn.maxim.com/32001-32500/32129_hottest_politicians_RubyDhalla__l1.jpg)

Ever since she first went to the house of commons, she's been constantly beseiged by all the womens magazine in Canada for interviews, photo spreads. Many of her covers and magazine spreads rival those of professional models.

She's a complete and total package of brains, beauty, and achievement, who has served this riding well.
She will definitely be an absolute force to reckon with in the future and a powerhouse within the Liberal Party.
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: garebear on October 18, 2008, 03:34:32 AM
{giggle} You've obviously never seen my local 3 time incumbent MP. The woman is F-in HOT!!!! You'd like her.
At 30, She became the youngest woman ever elected to Parliament, and the 1st Indian woman ever elected.
She's a Doctor who along with her brother owns a chain of chiropractic clinics, she's a former Miss India/Canada,
a former Bollywood actress, recently voted by Maxim magazine as one of the top 3 hottest politicians on the planet.

(http://cdn.maxim.com/32001-32500/32129_hottest_politicians_RubyDhalla__l1.jpg)

Ever since she first went to the house of commons, she's been constantly beseiged by all the womens magazine in Canada for interviews, photo spreads. Many of her covers and magazine spreads rival those of professional models.

She's a complete and total package of brains, beauty, and achievement, who has served this riding well.
She will definitely be an absolute force to reckon with in the future and a powerhouse within the Liberal Party.

My wife thinks that she has big tits.
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: 24KT on October 18, 2008, 03:42:37 AM
Many times it seems Canadians have a certain "Canuck" look to them.


That my friend is what we euphemistically refer to up here as a 'Toronto tan'  :P


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Jack Layton look's the least "Canadian" in my opinion.

haha  ;D

Funny you should say that, because this election, Layton adopted a completely new style and approach.
He adopted a very transparent imitation of Barack Obama, ...but couldn't really pull it off. It was kind of funny
At one point in the campaign Stéphane Dion pwned him in front of reporters by dismissing his latest attention whore antics saying "He thinks he's Barack Obama".  ;D
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: 24KT on October 18, 2008, 03:51:31 AM
My wife thinks that she has big tits.

LOL! She does.

She's also a very good MP who despite a fierce battle where the other Liberal candidate chose to throw support to the NDP when Prime Minister Martin selected her as his official representative, she snatched this riding away from the Conservative incumbent, and has kept it Liberal for the past 3 elections.
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: 24KT on October 18, 2008, 04:25:17 AM
thanks for the info Jag  :)

You're Welcome :)
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: Tapper on October 18, 2008, 04:55:58 AM
It must suck not being able to chose your PM. :(
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: 24KT on October 18, 2008, 05:39:12 AM
It must suck not being able to chose your PM. :(

It always sucks when your chosen candidate loses an election, ...but I'm not too bummed out.
Nothing has really changed since 41 days ago. Harper won re-election but failed to get a majority parliament.
Harper is still the PM, but now he knows how close he came to losing it all, because he was headed for a majority when he called the election, ...if Dion had had more than 37 days to sell his Green Shift to the public, Harper would have lost and he knows it. Dion has already successfully sold his carbon tax to oil and gas interests in Alberta right in Harper's very own back yard.

I won't complain though. I take comfort in knowing that at least in this country, even when the wrong candidate gets the task, s/he can't possibly screw up the country as bad as their counterpart south of our border has been, 'cause we can toss them out whenever we need to.

It must really suck to have to ride out 8 years of a thief breaking the laws, using your country men's lives as cannon fodder to enrich a priviledged few, all while pooping on the Constitution, and running your country into the ground, and not be able to do a darn thing about it.

That Sucks!   :'(
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: Tapper on October 18, 2008, 05:51:24 AM
Doesnt bother me a bit. I hate ALL politicians, both political parties. And the best thing is, I can still  vote for whomever I want. ;) ;D



Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: 24KT on October 18, 2008, 06:17:00 AM
Doesnt bother me a bit.

For a moment there, I forgot who I was talking to.
It's funny how water always has a way of finding it's own level, ...so no, I don't suppose it would bother you at all
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: Tapper on October 18, 2008, 06:18:50 AM
Im guess Im just not as angry a person as you are. ;) ;D
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: 24KT on October 18, 2008, 06:30:39 AM
Im guess Im just not as angry a person as you are. ;) ;D

...or as pretty, ...or as wise, ...or as rich, ...or as intelligent, ...or as enlightened, ...or as discerning.

Congratulations! Through your ignorance, ...you've found bliss!   :D
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Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: Tapper on October 18, 2008, 06:34:27 AM
Pretty? LMFAO!!! Sorry to break it to you, but you are anything but. Ive seen your photo, you look like Florence from The Jeffersons. :-X

Rich? You work in a strip mall and con people out of their money. And then you still have to pay a kickback to your superiors in Florida.

Intelligent? You lied about your IQ. 160. HAHAHAAHHA!!

Enlightened? Narcissistic is more like it. ;D
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: 24KT on October 18, 2008, 07:25:45 AM
Pretty? LMFAO!!! Sorry to break it to you, but you are anything but. Ive seen your photo, you look like Florence from The Jeffersons. :-X

Rich? You work in a strip mall and con people out of their money. And then you still have to pay a kickback to your superiors in Florida.

Intelligent? You lied about your IQ. 160. HAHAHAAHHA!!

Enlightened? Narcissistic is more like it. ;D

{sigh} Like I said, "Ignorance is Bliss!"  Congratulations!
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: Tapper on October 18, 2008, 07:30:03 AM
You know Jag has had enough when she posts stuff like that. ::)

LMAO!
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: Fury on October 18, 2008, 07:35:28 AM
...or as pretty, ...or as wise, ...or as rich, ...or as intelligent, ...or as enlightened, ...or as discerning.

Congratulations! Through your ignorance, ...you've found bliss!   :D
.

You obviously forgot "delusional" you lying twat. Yeah, you're rich and intelligent alright. That's why you make your money by peddling gas caps that do nothing on street corners while lying about having the same IQ as Einstein on internet forums. Yes, a beacon of wealth!  ::)

Pretty? LMFAO!!! Sorry to break it to you, but you are anything but. Ive seen your photo, you look like Florence from The Jeffersons. :-X

Rich? You work in a strip mall and con people out of their money. And then you still have to pay a kickback to your superiors in Florida.

Intelligent? You lied about your IQ. 160. HAHAHAAHHA!!

Enlightened? Narcissistic is more like it. ;D

LOL!
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: 24KT on October 18, 2008, 07:40:58 AM
You obviously forgot "delusional"


Actually, I forgot humble, ...but when you have as many great qualities as me, ...it's easy to forget a few.  8)
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: Grape Ape on October 18, 2008, 07:54:55 AM
...or as intelligent

Congratulations! Through your ignorance, ...you've found bliss!   :D
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Ok, Just finished watching Righteous Kill with Robert DeNiro & Al Pacino. Two Thumbs Up
Great Acting all around. Things are never quite what they seem. Definately worth a see.

"Righteous Kill"
starring Robert DeNiro, Al Pacino, Donnie Wahlberg, John Leguizamo, Carla Cugino, 50 Cent, Brian Dennehy

Anybody catch Bill Clinton on Jon Stewart last night?  The man definately still has it!!!


All those inbred hicks screaming about Reverend Wright better wake up and smell the coffee,
...cause if they think centuries of marrying their cousins won't have ramifications, ...they better think again!

This will most definately create new front lines in Biological warfare, a war that has been raging for quite some time.

Gattica here we come!!!


Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: 24KT on October 18, 2008, 08:43:09 AM
(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/em/angel2.gif)

uh huh, ...and I also spell harbour, colour, and neighbour with a u, and grey with an e.

...and as you've already noted, I most definately spell definately, with an a instead of an i. Your point being?

pssst: I also spell centre with the r before the e, and I spell cheque with a que instead of a ck
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: CQ on October 18, 2008, 09:51:57 AM
It must suck not being able to chose your PM. :(

Must suck to be in a nation in massive debt and pay taxes out your ass  :(
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: Tapper on October 18, 2008, 10:09:44 AM
Must suck to be in a nation in massive debt and pay taxes out your ass  :(

Ya. Canada is like that isnt it?
 ;D
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: CQ on October 18, 2008, 01:04:04 PM
Ya. Canada is like that isnt it?
 ;D

Yes, perhaps they are chasing and aiming to be just like the #1 debtor nation and take their medal for having the largest debt ever ;D
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: Tapper on October 18, 2008, 01:35:50 PM
"Take their medal" ???

Did you mean to type that? On purpose? Are you in grade 4 or something?

WTF???

 ::) ;D




Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: headhuntersix on October 18, 2008, 01:47:25 PM
You know what sucks? I'll tell you what sucks: Canada.

I'm mad as hell about Canada and I don't have to take it. Guess who liked Canada: Hitler. And I may not have any evidence to back this up, but trust me. It's true.

Why do I hate Canada so much? I'll tell you. I have seven reasons that will make whiny liberals quiver in their faux-fur lined boots.

Canada is cold.

Real cold. Too cold for anyone sensible.

But Canadians should prepare for warmer temperatures, since those Godless socialist pinko cowards will suffer an eternity in Hell.

The metric system.
Those Canadians practically invented this "metric" system bullshit. Somehow it's like inches and feet, only it doesn't make any damn sense. And kilometers? Don't even get me started on those.

Next thing you know they'll have metric months, metric dollar bills, and women will have metric breasts. Where will the madness end?

Canada gained independence from England in 1982.
1982! Can you believe that? Practically yesterday. We told those British popinjays to take a hike over 200 years before those lazy Canucks got around to it.

And guess who still has the queen on their currency? I'll give you a hint: Canada.

Rich people must pay for health care for lazy bums.
Imagine being coerced into paying for health care for undserving lazy scaramouches who sit on the street corner day after day, chugging down a 40oz Mickeys before noon.

Those cretins don't deserve a nickel, let alone expensive medical treatment paid for by wealthy, upstanding members of society.

Fact: If you're poor, it's entirely your damn fault -- and you deserve a short miserable life of pain and suffering.

They have oil.
Come on, Canada. Give us your damn oil. Who do you think makes your cars, anyway? Manitoba isn't exactly Detroit, if you know what I mean.

Don't make us go Iraq on your ass. We'll do it.

I'm serious.

They speak French.
Okay, I know what you're going to say. "But O Wrinkly, only Canadians in Quebec speak French!"

Well be that as it may, Canadians still write in French all over the damn place. Street signs, documents, businesses...

If I ever saw a coffee shop with a sign that said "ferme" in the window instead of "closed," I'd blow that place up before those Satan-worshiping French terrorists spread their hate any further.

Draft dodgers.
And this is the big one. Where do you think those America-hating draft dodgers run off to when the going gets tough?

You're damn right they go to that God-forsaken hellhole known as Canada. Look, we're making the world safe for you hippie clinchpoops, so show some damn respect.

There you have it folks -- seven indesputible reasons Canada sucks. Of course, everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion. But if it's different than mine, it's wrong.

Because I said so.

Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: CQ on October 18, 2008, 02:20:13 PM
"Take their medal" ???

Did you mean to type that? On purpose? Are you in grade 4 or something?

WTF???

 ::) ;D






Of course you know what I mean. And feel free to insult my "speech", I am well aware that my abiliity to communicate outside of my own language is not bad, and have been told that many times.
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: Tapper on October 18, 2008, 02:47:35 PM
And feel free to insult my "speech",

I just did. ;D ;D :D ;)
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: garebear on October 18, 2008, 06:06:10 PM
(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/em/angel2.gif)

uh huh, ...and I also spell harbour, colour, and neighbour with a u, and grey with an e.

...and as you've already noted, I most definately spell definately, with an a instead of an i[/b]. Your point being?

pssst: I also spell centre with the r before the e, and I spell cheque with a que instead of a ck

can you really spell definite that way? i mean is it correct in other countries? i never knew about that one. center and color, those words i understand are spelled diffrently, but definately?  is that correct in canada and elswhere?
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: 24KT on October 18, 2008, 06:39:16 PM
uh huh. Just like many words can be spelled with either a z or a s

When it comes to definate, using an i as opposed to an a is definately more common though.
Title: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: Benny B on October 19, 2008, 07:01:01 AM
I just did. ;D ;D :D ;)
haha
idiot