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Unfuckingreal.
They are talking about a United States Senator.
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There are idiots on BOTH sides.
People on this forum can go round and round posting videos of racist morons supporting McCain and racist morons supporting Obama.
It changes nothing.
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Wow.
I hate the democrats just as much as any decent American, but this video is a bit retarded.....
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There are idiots on BOTH sides.
People on this forum can go round and round posting videos of racist morons supporting McCain and racist morons supporting Obama.
It changes nothing.
I can accept there are idiots on both sides, but when they're inciting the crowds like this, it enters a new game. And this isn't by accident, the people who advised McCain knew exactly what they were doing. This is just beyond and it needs to be denounced. I sure in the hell would not want Obama and company inciting violence against McCain. No freaking way. I've said similar before any of this happened when people here got a little over riled at a politician including Bush. If I can stand up for Bush's safety and denouce talk that goes to far, you all should say what McCain's people are doing goes to far. We need to get to the election so we can vote. As it's going now, some idiot is going to think he's saving America by offing Obama. I can't believe I actually have to argue this with some people, it should be a universal WTF.
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There are idiots on BOTH sides.
People on this forum can go round and round posting videos of racist morons supporting McCain and racist morons supporting Obama.
It changes nothing.
You mean to tell me that posting here, hour after senseless hour, will NOT change other's opinions?
I find that a little hard to believe.
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You mean to tell me that posting here, hour after senseless hour, will NOT change other's opinions?
I find that a little hard to believe.
omg @ teh disbelief. :P
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Unfuckingreal.
They are talking about a United States Senator.
They're talking about a communist, as he told the plumber , Hussein want to "redistribute his wealth" ::)
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I can accept there are idiots on both sides, but when they're inciting the crowds like this, it enters a new game. And this isn't by accident, the people who advised McCain knew exactly what they were doing. This is just beyond and it needs to be denounced. I sure in the hell would not want Obama and company inciting violence against McCain. No freaking way. I've said similar before any of this happened when people here got a little over riled at a politician including Bush. If I can stand up for Bush's safety and denouce talk that goes to far, you all should say what McCain's people are doing goes to far. We need to get to the election so we can vote. As it's going now, some idiot is going to think he's saving America by offing Obama. I can't believe I actually have to argue this with some people, it should be a universal WTF.
That's a good point, Hugo. It's wrong, on so many levels, that McCain and Palin are not stomping that hate fire out immediately.
However, Obama is doing it do - only on a more "civilized" level. I'm hearing news reports of his goons doing it through the court system with threats of libel suits towards those that are actually bringing up valid issues about this past or policy decisions.
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They're talking about a communist, as he told the plumber , Hussein want to "redistribute his wealth" ::)
And McCain wants to commit genocide. ::)
Maybe someday people won't be so stupid as to fall for cheesy spins ploys.
Guess that's not these days.
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And McCain wants to commit genocide. ::)
Maybe someday people won't be so stupid as to fall for cheesy spins ploys.
Guess that's not these days.
Spin....I gave you the link to Hussein saying it ...no one else...him...himself..sa ying it on video!
Hmm...what sounds more as a spin...McCain and genocide or Hussein OWN WORDS ::)
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Spin....I gave you the link to Hussein saying it ...no one else...him...himself..sa ying it on video!
Hmm...what sounds more as a spin...McCain and genocide or Hussein OWN WORDS ::)
It was McCains own words BTW.
And Obama's statements were taken out of context, i saw the video on another thread. That being said, i do not support his capital gains tax increases.
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It was McCains own words BTW.
And Obama's statements were taken out of context, i saw the video on another thread. That being said, i do not support his capital gains tax increases.
A solider, especially a POW can sometimes say things like that, but it's just like you will tell your friend that you want to kill him after he took the last pizza slice.
You are really grabing at straws, even the most hardcore McCain haters have any fear of a genocide on "gooks" while Hussein economic plans seem right around the corner if he elected, he also is an active member in the turning of Kenya to a communist nation while I don't see McCain flying all over the world to promote "gook" killing.
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A solider, especially a POW can sometimes say things like that, but it's just like you will tell your friend that you want to kill him after he took the last pizza slice.
Now that's one of the worst spins i've ever heard.......lol
You are really grabing at straws, even the most hardcore McCain haters have any fear of a genocide on "gooks" while Hussein economic plans seem right around the corner if he elected, he also is an active member in the turning of Kenya to a communist nation while I don't see McCain flying all over the world to promote "gook" killing.
More spin.
BTW, you right about flying around promoting gook killing, McCain is just singing songs about bombing.
The main thing about Obama's plan i know about that i don't like is the CGT. I think it will hurt business.
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Now that's one of the worst spins i've ever heard.......lol
More spin.
BTW, you right about flying around promoting gook killing, McCain is just singing songs about bombing.
The main thing about Obama's plan i know about that i don't like is the CGT. I think it will hurt business.
Firstly its very probable that he have a trauma from bleeding for you for 5 years as a tortured POW, so he might have some slip ups in this department , but again, I have yet to see any "gook" fearing for his life when he talks about McCain.
This is a much weaker straw than calling Hussein a terrorists considering he is a personal friend of one and try to bring a communist government to Kenya and support that crazy man over there.
The Kenya story isn't a spin, look it up, you can see FACTS, you know...those things democrats ignore.
You never were a soldier ah? I didn't hear McCain singing bombing songs but once again, you have no idea how soldiers speak and laugh.
Oh wait...I speak with logic....fast...call your Asian friends...tell them to hide McCain come to kill them ::) ::)
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Firstly its very probable that he have a trauma from bleeding for you for 5 years as a tortured POW, so he might have some slip ups in this department , but again, I have yet to see any "gook" fearing for his life when he talks about McCain.
This is a much weaker straw than calling Hussein a terrorists considering he is a personal friend of one and try to bring a communist government to Kenya and support that crazy man over there.
The Kenya story isn't a spin, look it up, you can see FACTS, you know...those things democrats ignore.
You never were a soldier ah? I didn't hear McCain singing bombing songs but once again, you have no idea how soldiers speak and laugh.
Oh wait...I speak with logic....fast...call your Asian friends...tell them to hide McCain come to kill them ::) ::)
You've made my point pretty well as i was comparing Obama's words taken out of context as silly to McCain's gook comments and gook Gencide. Thanks.
You have yet to speak with logic but keep trying. As far soldiers, I spent my 18+ years of my life on military bases around the world so that qualifies me. But what doesn't qualify McCain as a competent candidate who was signing a song like that with the sole purpose of pandering for votes. It makes him look irresponsible and idiotic.
That's why McCain will always be a pandering whore.
Next, Kenya. I'd be willing to bet there is much more to that then is let out here on GetBIG because FOX would be all over that like a fat guy on a pork chop otherwise.
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You've made my point pretty well as i was comparing Obama's words taken out of context as silly to McCain's gook comments and gook Gencide. Thanks.
You have yet to speak with logic but keep trying. As far soldiers, I spent my 18+ years of my life on military bases around the world so that qualifies me. But what doesn't qualify McCain as a competent candidate who was signing a song like that with the sole purpose of pandering for votes. It makes him look irresponsible and idiotic.
That's why McCain will always be a pandering whore.
Next, Kenya. I'd be willing to bet there is much more to that then is let out here on GetBIG because FOX would be all over that like a fat guy on a pork chop otherwise.
I didn't make your point because you completely miss it yourself.
Hussein have been leaning towards Communism his WHOLE LIFE, he promotes his economic plan EVERYDAY and that sentence was just the summary to that plan.
On the other hand...we haven't heard of McCain running around the streets promoting the killing of Asian daily.
So if you want to keep talking about context, keep it within one, Hussein and Communism is a direct connection and that cannot be ignored.
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I didn't make your point because you completely miss it yourself.
Hussein have been leaning towards Communism his WHOLE LIFE, he promotes his economic plan EVERYDAY and that sentence was just the summary to that plan.
On the other hand...we haven't heard of McCain running around the streets promoting the killing of Asian daily.
So if you want to keep talking about context, keep it within one, Hussein and Communism is a direct connection and that cannot be ignored.
Obama is a liberal Democrat NOT a communist. Again, try not to spin yourself. And when he gets elected do you think he will change the constitution? Is that what you are afraid of?
AND, you are doing it again: "Hussein have been leaning towards Communism his WHOLE LIFE, he promotes his economic plan EVERYDAY and that sentence was just the summary to that plan."
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Obama is a liberal Democrat NOT a communist. Again, try not to spin yourself. And when he gets elected do you think he will change the constitution? Is that what you are afraid of?
AND, you are doing it again: "Hussein have been leaning towards Communism his WHOLE LIFE, he promotes his economic plan EVERYDAY and that sentence was just the summary to that plan."
He have nothing to do with Communism...with Ayers...with anything...he is just pure ::)
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He have nothing to do with Communism...with Ayers...with anything...he is just pure ::)
I can't watch the vid at work, but i will at home later tonite.
He have nothing to do with Communism...with Ayers...with anything...he is just pure ::)
spin spin spin. Just deal in reality dude. And stop acting like it's 1952. ;)
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I can't watch the vid at work, but i will at home later tonite.
spin spin spin. Just deal in reality dude. And stop acting like it's 1952. ;)
Please explain to me how his connection to all these people, Ayers, Rev.Wright, that Kenyan dude, Acorn ,Rezco and more....are not reality?
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Please explain to me how his connection to all these people, Ayers, Rev.Wright, that Kenyan dude, Acorn ,Rezco and more....are not reality?
He has a connection. But does those connections make a communist? NO. His actions in congress as a senator and such determine whether he's a communist, socialist, or very liberal democrat.
That logic of yours is the same flawed logic that fuels 9/11 and JFK CT'ers. For example, "some of the pentagon top brass's flights were cancelled the day before 9/11." CT'ers take that as proof that they knew about the attack before it happened. that's no different than you saying Obama hates America, is a terrorist or is a communist becuase he has connection to these people. Does McCain working with democrats in congress make him a democrat? NO. Obama is a liberal senator.
Saying Obama is a Terrorist or Communist is as ridiculous as saying John McCain is a VC sleeper agent brainwashed in captivity or a genocider.
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He has a connection. But does those connections make a communist? NO. His actions in congress as a senator and such determine whether he's a communist, socialist, or very liberal democrat.
That logic of yours is the same flawed logic that fuels 9/11 and JFK CT'ers. For example, "some of the pentagon top brass's flights were cancelled the day before 9/11." CT'ers take that as proof that they knew about the attack before it happened. that's no different than you saying Obama hates America, is a terrorist or is a communist becuase he has connection to these people. Does McCain working with democrats in congress make him a democrat? NO. Obama is a liberal senator.
Saying Obama is a Terrorist or Communist is as ridiculous as saying John McCain is a VC sleeper agent brainwashed in captivity or a genocider.
Actually you aren't on point here, Hussein have shown over his all career that he is a slippery snake that will do everything to get into a better seat of power.
If he will be the president he might start to show his true face to a much large extent , as explained by him about his financial plan he is already showing some signs.
Add these signs to much more than just some random connection to Ayers, the Kenyan Communist leader or his "god damn America" pastor that he thanks at his rallies....and you have to wonder....who is this man that was politically grown by a crazy pastor and a terrorists .... look into the Ayers connection deeper...its MUCH deeper than you think.
Also...I'm against any conspiracy theory but these are facts and these things add up to shitty plans , shady character and the fact that you need someone TRUSTWORTHY as the PRESIDENT.
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A solider, especially a POW can sometimes say things like that, but it's just like you will tell your friend that you want to kill him after he took the last pizza slice.
You are really grabing at straws, even the most hardcore McCain haters have any fear of a genocide on "gooks" while Hussein economic plans seem right around the corner if he elected, he also is an active member in the turning of Kenya to a communist nation while I don't see McCain flying all over the world to promote "gook" killing.
amazing...
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I have a question to those who question the communist ties... What the fuck do you care about communism?
1/2 the shit in this country is produced by a communist nation (China) and you people eat that shit up.
1/2 the Fortune 500 companies in the US do business with the government entity of The Peoples Republic of China and they are in FACT, a communist country.
So what the fuck does it matter if he has "ties" to communism... Everyone in the US does.
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Actually you aren't on point here, Hussein have shown over his all career that he is a slippery snake that will do everything to get into a better seat of power.
If he will be the president he might start to show his true face to a much large extent , as explained by him about his financial plan he is already showing some signs.
Add these signs to much more than just some random connection to Ayers, the Kenyan Communist leader or his "god damn America" pastor that he thanks at his rallies....and you have to wonder....who is this man that was politically grown by a crazy pastor and a terrorists .... look into the Ayers connection deeper...its MUCH deeper than you think.
Also...I'm against any conspiracy theory but these are facts and these things add up to shitty plans , shady character and the fact that you need someone TRUSTWORTHY as the PRESIDENT.
Obama comes across as a cold calculating operator to me. But that doesn't make him a communist as his connections don't either. It's flawed logic based on spin, like I've been saying all along. McCain comes across as a pandering whore. I trust Obama to follow his principles more than i do McCain even though i don't agree with many of Obama's principles.
Here's some reasons why i think he's a pandering whore:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=230563.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=230563.0)
I cannot trust a man who's sold his soul (metaphorically, of course) to be president.
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listen to Ozmo he is right.
:)
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Firstly its very probable that he have a trauma from bleeding for you for 5 years as a tortured POW, so he might have some slip ups in this department , but again, I have yet to see any "gook" fearing for his life when he talks about McCain.
This is a much weaker straw than calling Hussein a terrorists considering he is a personal friend of one and try to bring a communist government to Kenya and support that crazy man over there.
The Kenya story isn't a spin, look it up, you can see FACTS, you know...those things democrats ignore.
You never were a soldier ah? I didn't hear McCain singing bombing songs but once again, you have no idea how soldiers speak and laugh.
Oh wait...I speak with logic....fast...call your Asian friends...tell them to hide McCain come to kill them ::) ::)
I was a soldier. How do we laugh and talk?
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Obama comes across as a cold calculating operator to me. But that doesn't make him a communist as his connections don't either. It's flawed logic based on spin, like I've been saying all along. McCain comes across as a pandering whore. I trust Obama to follow his principles more than i do McCain even though i don't agree with many of Obama's principles.
Here's some reasons why i think he's a pandering whore:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=230563.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=230563.0)
I cannot trust a man who's sold his soul (metaphorically, of course) to be president.
Oh really....:
1 of the 2 presidential candidates flip flopping? Imagine that!
Sounds like you're selling your soul just to sell Hussein to me, one minute you take flip flopping as a normal thing in politics and a minute later it's taboo.... ::)
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Oh really....:
Sounds like you're selling your soul just to sell Hussein to me, one minute you take flip flopping as a normal thing in politics and a minute later it's taboo.... ::)
There you go mis-interpreting points with incorrect conjecture. You been doing it all day.
You'd make a great CT'er.
Let's review:
1. "Hussein have been leaning towards Communism his WHOLE LIFE, he promotes his economic plan EVERYDAY and that sentence was just the summary to that plan."
You insinuate that's his BIG sinister plan by saying that one sentence sums it up.
2. There's flip flopping and there is plain lying...guess what does Hussein does? the man who said "Ayers is just a guy from my neighborhood" basically saying I don't know him....which have been disprove.
"basically saying I don't know him" is your tainted interpretation based on your loyalty to your party.
When he says: "Ayers is just a guy from my neighborhood" is means exactly that. It is not a definitive or exact statement regarding the relationship he has with Ayers.
Now if he said: "I don;t know him" then that would be a direct lie.
3. A solider, especially a POW can sometimes say things like that, but it's just like you will tell your friend that you want to kill him after he took the last pizza slice.
You compared a person's anger laced statement from imprisonment about killing a race to a guy taking a friends pizza. Very stupid.
4. Please explain to me how his connection to all these people, Ayers, Rev.Wright, that Kenyan dude, Acorn ,Rezco and more....are not reality?
which you used to suggest he's a COMMUNIST. What a joke. didn't BUSH today force the major lending institutions to sell the government shares? Who's the fvcking commy now?
And then:
Sounds like you're selling your soul just to sell Hussein to me, one minute you take flip flopping as a normal thing in politics and a minute later it's taboo.... ::)
Have i said you should vote for him? (no) Yet you think I'm trying to sell you on it.
Have i criticized his capital gains tax proposal? (yes)
Did i say flipping should be taboo? (no) I told you why i don't support McCain, becuase he's spineless and at least Obama isn't. Not that he hasn't flipped flopped, but he hasn't near as much as McCain and has kept pretty much consistent.
You really should consider using more ratiional thought and common sense when it comes to anything. At least your conclusions wouldn't be so unrealistic, warped, and flat out incorrect.
You can take comfort in one thought however, you are a loyal republican/conservative soldier.
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Bump for an answer from the "commie haters".
I have a question to those who question the communist ties... What the fuck do you care about communism?
1/2 the shit in this country is produced by a communist nation (China) and you people eat that shit up.
1/2 the Fortune 500 companies in the US do business with the government entity of The Peoples Republic of China and they are in FACT, a communist country.
So what the fuck does it matter if he has "ties" to communism... Everyone in the US does.
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There you go mis-interpreting points with incorrect conjecture. You been doing it all day.
You'd make a great CT'er.
Let's review:
You insinuate that's his BIG sinister plan by saying that one sentence sums it up.
"basically saying I don't know him" is your tainted interpretation based on your loyalty to your party.
When he says: "Ayers is just a guy from my neighborhood" is means exactly that. It is not a definitive or exact statement regarding the relationship he has with Ayers.
Now if he said: "I don;t know him" then that would be a direct lie.
You compared a person's anger laced statement from imprisonment about killing a race to a guy taking a friends pizza. Very stupid.
which you used to suggest he's a COMMUNIST. What a joke. didn't BUSH today force the major lending institutions to sell the government shares? Who's the fvcking commy now?
And then:
Have i said you should vote for him? (no) Yet you think I'm trying to sell you on it.
Have i criticized his capital gains tax proposal? (yes)
Did i say flipping should be taboo? (no) I told you why i don't support McCain, becuase he's spineless and at least Obama isn't. Not that he hasn't flipped flopped, but he hasn't near as much as McCain and has kept pretty much consistent.
You really should consider using more ratiional thought and common sense when it comes to anything. At least your conclusions wouldn't be so unrealistic, warped, and flat out incorrect.
You can take comfort in one thought however, you are a loyal republican/conservative soldier.
1.I'm not a republican, nor democrat , I think that anyone that is one thing without thinking is an idiot.
2.I'm in the empirical science and engineering industry, I think I know a thing or two about logic and examining facts.
More impotently something about looking up the signs in small occurrences, that's the whole point, we can't allow ourselves to mistake in such a big choice.
BTW I'm seeing Obama getting slaughtered on the debate right now ;D
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2.I'm in the empirical science and engineering industry, I think I know a thing or two about logic and examining facts.
More impotently something about looking up the signs in small occurrences, that's the whole point, we can't allow ourselves to mistake in such a big choice.
Based on how you get to your conclusions it doesn't seem that way.
But either way, i can't really go much further on this, because i see both candidates as terrible.
BTW I'm seeing Obama getting slaughtered on the debate right now
I think this statement just shows your bias. McCain did well in the first 2 debates. This one was bay far his worse. He came across as a angry shaky bitter pasty looking old man here. He had one good assertion: "I am not BUSH".
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He came across as a angry shaky bitter pasty looking old man here.
Don't forget slimey. He came off so slimey to me, ...almost as if this was one big joke to him.
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Based on how you get to your conclusions it doesn't seem that way.
But either way, i can't really go much further on this, because i see both candidates as terrible.
I think this statement just shows your bias. McCain did well in the first 2 debates. This one was bay far his worse. He came across as a angry shaky bitter pasty looking old man here. He had one good assertion: "I am not BUSH".
McCain kept pitching and Obama just sat there shaking his head either in agreement or in shame, quite a few times if you remember.
Obama hardly came forward with his connection to Ayers either, he tried to downplay it to a level that I find bordering a lie.
Also I was really bothered by the constant statement from Obama...he started just about every sentence with "we gotta invest/spend/put more on X/Y/Z" , it seems that he will do the worst thing, throwing money at a problem hoping for it to solve while money is hardly the problem in most cases.
And much more, the thing is McCain doesn't have a good body language due to the torturing he experienced and that make him allot worse in getting his point across, but his point is the better one in the bottom line.
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McCain kept pitching and Obama just sat there shaking his head either in agreement or in shame, quite a few times if you remember.
most people agree that Obama kept his compiser far better than MCCain
Obama hardly came forward with his connection to Ayers either, he tried to downplay it to a level that I find bordering a lie.
McCain is the one that lied, when he said Obama Campaign was launched in Ayers living room. That was covered after the debate.
Also I was really bothered by the constant statement from Obama...he started just about every sentence with "we gotta invest/spend/put more on X/Y/Z" , it seems that he will do the worst thing, throwing money at a problem hoping for it to solve while money is hardly the problem in most cases.
That's what they all do in Washington, Repubs are are more prolific at it latey. Until a society matures, money will be always thrown at problems.