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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Sherief Shalaby on October 16, 2008, 04:49:16 AM
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Does any one feel that Mike really deserved to beat Nasser on that day??..
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NO he looked like a bloated carcus.
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Nasser 94-95= great bodybuilder. Very aesthetic physique before the synthol abuse.
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From the front, no. But from the back, Nasser gets owned massively and the side poses are not really in his faviour either.
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From the front, no. But from the back, Nasser gets owned massively and the side poses are not really in his faviour either.
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/18960-3/1994-night-of-champions-71.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=0640641d304896b801a33b9130def579)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/18927-4/1994-night-of-champions-33.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=0640641d304896b801a33b9130def579)
Mike's wasn't at its best either.
I would have given it to Nasser and I'm far from a Nasserite.
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From the front, no. But from the back, Nasser gets owned massively and the side poses are not really in his faviour either.
Sure Mike's back was better than Nasser's but Nasser's front was MUCH better than Mike's..
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Nasser wins every pose except rear double bicep and lat spread.
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Nasser 94-95= great bodybuilder. Very aesthetic physique before the synthol abuse.
R u sure he used synthol in 1996???.. I believe he didn't..
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Mike's muscles close to spine are so god damn thick!
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R u sure he used synthol in 1996???.. I believe he didn't..
No idea... but I believe he reached his peak in 1994-1995.
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/18762-4/1994-night-of-champions-14.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=0640641d304896b801a33b9130def579)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/19720-4/1995-night-of-champions-27.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=0640641d304896b801a33b9130def579)
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(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/18960-3/1994-night-of-champions-71.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=0640641d304896b801a33b9130def579)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/18927-4/1994-night-of-champions-33.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=0640641d304896b801a33b9130def579)
Mike's wasn't at its best either.
I would have given it to Nasser and I'm far from a Nasserite.
I believe Mike's best was at the AC 95 when he beat a "come back" Flex Wheeler..
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Nasser was probably at his best in '96 rom what I recall. Pretty impressive in '95 also.
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No idea... but I believe he reached his peak in 1994-1995.
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/18762-4/1994-night-of-champions-14.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=0640641d304896b801a33b9130def579)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/19720-4/1995-night-of-champions-27.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=0640641d304896b801a33b9130def579)
I believe when using synthol it hides the veins of the injected muscle and in 96 he was all veins and he looked slightly better than 95.. He also looked gr8 at the AC 97 and 98..
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Nasser looks absolutely incredible at this show unbelievable aesthetics, great taper and to top it off mass
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Nasser wins every pose except rear double bicep and lat spread.
The side poses are debatable. Nasser's chest looks a bit flat and his arms are not at his best. He's far superior from the front, true, upper and lower body.
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who was that other arab poster that nuthugged nasser? the other troll... someone help me out
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nassers golden years where 94-97...specially 96-97
in the ancient books of bodybuilding history it shall be noted that NASSER THE CALIPH OF MUSCLE REIGNED DURING THESE GOLDEN YEARS OF BODYBUILDING
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The side poses are debatable. Nasser's chest looks a bit flat and his arms are not at his best. He's far superior from the front, true, upper and lower body.
I always feel that one of Nasser's weakness was his inability to hit all poses in the right way.. You can see how his shoulder, arm, and chest looked better and bigger that Mike's but because he didn't hit the side chest pose right he looked flat in some ppl' eyes.. I myself don't see him flat but I believe he had to improve his posing..
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I always feel that one of Nasser's weakness was his inability to hit all poses in the right way.. You can see how his shoulder, arm, and chest looked better and bigger that Mike's but because he didn't hit the side chest pose right he looked flat in some ppl' eyes.. I myself don't see him flat but I believe he had to improve his posing..
early in his career he had problems with the side chest pose (as in the case of the pic posted earlier in this thread)...he didnt push the chest out and up + he didnt contract the bicep enough (by bringing the forearm up....its too low as you can see in the pic.....although in the pic maybe he just hadnt finished the pose)
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early in his career he had problems with the side chest pose (as in the case of the pic posted earlier in this thread)...he didnt push the chest out and up + he didnt contract the bicep enough (by bringing the forearm up....its too low as you can see in the pic.....although in the pic maybe he just hadnt finished the pose)
100% right :D
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Does any one feel that Mike really deserved to beat Nasser on that day??..
Nobody ever deserved to beat Nasser on any day!
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Dam Mike looks a little small next to Nasser, he looks thick but small next to Nasser...wierd.
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From the front, no. But from the back, Nasser gets owned massively and the side poses are not really in his faviour either.
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Nobody ever deserved to beat Nasser on any day!
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Dam Mike looks a little small next to Nasser, he looks thick but small next to Nasser...wierd.
Why do you find that weird? Mike was never a first tier bodybuilder. Wasn't his highest Mr. O placing 7th?
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This contest was another travesty where the all american poster boy at the time Mike Francois beat the unknown pro Nasser from Europe. This show should have been clearly gone to Mr. El Sonbaty.
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Why do you find that weird? Mike was never a first tier bodybuilder. Wasn't his highest Mr. O placing 7th?
What's wierd? he looks quite a bit thicker in a lot of poses but somehow smaller...was Nasser closer up in some of these pics.
First tier bodybuilders win the Arnol and not the O hunh, I Nasser wasnt top tier either :D
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Dam Mike looks a little small next to Nasser, he looks thick but small next to Nasser...wierd.
I think these pictures are VERY misleading, if I remember correctly they are the same height or at most 1-2 inches apart, but Nasser looks like a full head taller here, so judging by them is hardly objective.
You need to be there, or at least post a video instead of some misleading pictures.
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I think these pictures are VERY misleading, if I remember correctly they are the same height or at most 1-2 inches apart, but Nasser looks like a full head taller here, so judging by them is hardly objective.
You need to be there, or at least post a video instead of some misleading pictures.
That's what I was getting at.
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What's wierd? he looks quite a bit thicker in a lot of poses but somehow smaller...was Nasser closer up in some of these pics.
First tier bodybuilders win the Arnol and not the O hunh, I Nasser wasnt top tier either :D
Not sure where he looks "thicker?" Yes, Francois did win the Arnold which is the 2nd biggest show but at the Olympia he never cracked top 6. By Nasser being "top tier" I mean he was top 3 at the O for 4 years, and top 6 for 6 years.
I think these pictures are VERY misleading, if I remember correctly they are the same height or at most 1-2 inches apart, but Nasser looks like a full head taller here, so judging by them is hardly objective.
How tall is Francois? Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe 5'9". Nasser is 5'11.5", so the scaling does not look biased for most pics.
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Not sure where he looks "thicker?" Yes, Francois did win the Arnold which is the 2nd biggest show but at the Olympia he never cracked top 6. By Nasser being "top tier" I mean he was top 3 at the O for 4 years, and top 6 for 6 years.
Relax I was just giving you a hard time, but Francois was a threat in the mid 90's just that he didnt "dial it in" a lot of the time. The Arnold winning Francois had an excelent phisique. And in the side chest Mike looks real thick.
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I think these pictures are VERY misleading, if I remember correctly they are the same height or at most 1-2 inches apart, but Nasser looks like a full head taller here, so judging by them is hardly objective.
You need to be there, or at least post a video instead of some misleading pictures.
R u sure u r neutral in what u r saying???.. Hw come 2 call pics from the show while the 2 guys were standing beside each other misleading??.. Do u mean that the cameraman used a certain angel 2 make Nasser look taller or what??.. If u r right so the same cameraman must have taken the below photo also which shows bth guys at Mr. O. 1995.. Anyway Nasser was not only taller but also better.. In my opinion Mike won only coz he was the "WHIET" American dream to take the Olympia from Yates.. But Mike couldn't keep improving his physique to achieve this dream..
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Francois was a 1st tier bber, due to his illness he wasnt able to fully contest for the O once he paid his dues.
He beat a very good but incomplete Nasser on that day, and Mike had a balanced physique.
He beat Sonbaty on the side-chest, rear lat spread, rear double bi. As we all know, back has been a very important bodypart for a long time, ask Yates, Ronnie and Haney.
From the front Nasser looked marginally better in certain poses, could've gone either way, but the judges gave it to the best bber that day.
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Does any one feel that Mike really deserved to beat Nasser on that day??..
Everytime Nasser got beat...HE DESERVED IT !! Everyone he beat...DIDN'T DESERVE TO GET BEAT BY HIM! Nasser sucks !! You..You're a phag...! Stop living in the past..All you do is post shit that could never be changed ..It happened ..Let it go!
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Of course - every time nasser didn't win it must be because of racism. ::)
I'm sure Joe Weider spent millions in flying nasser to the US and setting him up only to screw him over during competition....the conspiracies continue. Pretty imaginative there Chalabi.
Maybe they had a pre-9/11 racism test so they could go full bore after the actual thing happened.
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Of course - every time nasser didn't win it must be because of racism. ::)
I'm sure Joe Weider spent millions in flying nasser to the US and setting him up only to screw him over during competition....the conspiracies continue. Pretty imaginative there Chalabi.
Maybe they had a pre-9/11 racism test so they could go full bore after the actual thing happened.
You just smacked these guys around with logic & common sense it's a new experience for them
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R u sure u r neutral in what u r saying???.. Hw come 2 call pics from the show while the 2 guys were standing beside each other misleading??.. Do u mean that the cameraman used a certain angel 2 make Nasser look taller or what??.. If u r right so the same cameraman must have taken the below photo also which shows bth guys at Mr. O. 1995.. Anyway Nasser was not only taller but also better.. In my opinion Mike won only coz he was the "WHIET" American dream to take the Olympia from Yates.. But Mike couldn't keep improving his physique to achieve this dream..
Wow you're truly pitiful.
1.The picture you posted was not in the original post, and here where the angle isn't that different Mike looks much better and doesn't look smaller.
2.It's not a conspiracy by the cameraman it's just that he was at an angle and maybe Nasser took a few steps closer to the judges while on stage and that caused these pictures to look like it.
BTW Mike was a VERY good competitor and you can notice that he is very thick all round and have a very dry back side, considering that unless you're a freak it's humanly impossible to have a leaner back than front I will have to come back to my original thoughts of misleading pictures.
And don't forget, Mike won against Flex (and other great names) in his prime years, one of the VERY few.
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Even Flex mag had Nasser in 1st and Francois in 3rd!!!
Nasser easily
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Nasser definitely should have won that show
another eg of IFBB politics - giving the all american NPC boy the win over a non NPC competitor
the only pose where francois is edging Nasser is the BDB becos his back is drier and harder- but also in that pose francois is soft in the glutes and has no hamstrings whereas Nasser has ripped glutes and hamstrings
ALL other poses Nasser is easily dominating francois
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Nas looked fantastic
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Hey Robson- 1997 called and left a message for ya -
Fuck you and fuck nasser too.
1997 already fucked nasser
you may be next
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Wow you're truly pitiful.
1.The picture you posted was not in the original post, and here where the angle isn't that different Mike looks much better and doesn't look smaller.
2.It's not a conspiracy by the cameraman it's just that he was at an angle and maybe Nasser took a few steps closer to the judges while on stage and that caused these pictures to look like it.
BTW Mike was a VERY good competitor and you can notice that he is very thick all round and have a very dry back side, considering that unless you're a freak it's humanly impossible to have a leaner back than front I will have to come back to my original thoughts of misleading pictures.
And don't forget, Mike won against Flex (and other great names) in his prime years, one of the VERY few.
- Sure I didn't include this pic. in the actual thread coz it's from Mr. O. 95 while the thread is abt the NOC 94!!!.. I posted it only after ur comment 2 show u tht Nasser was always taller.. Anyway being taller didn't give Nasser any thing over Mike coz Mike ws not a short guy after all..
- Sure Mike was a good bodybuilder but there were some weak points in his physique that always separated him from the top guys.. Yes he won the AC 95 and beat Flex Wheeler but don't forget Flex ws just back from the injuries of the car accident of 1994.. In 3rd and 4th places came average good bodybuilders (Charles Clairmont & Andreas Munzer) then in the 5th place came a finished Lee Labrada competing at his last show!!.. So there was no real threats against Mike..
- After Mr. Olympia 96 Mike who placed 10th or 11th described the top 6 guys as "great champions".. Also at the AC 97 Mike came after Flex and Nasser and he ws happy with this place..