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Title: All American
Post by: jimijimi on October 16, 2008, 05:13:01 PM
You got a man running for president who fought for this country, and fought for yours and his freedom.
And he believes in America not like someones wife we know. And dosen't have to think of answers when asked or lies to the American people  so you here what sounds good to you, but are the answers coming from Obama or maybe from 1 of his 300 advisors? Unbelievable
Title: Re: All American
Post by: OzmO on October 16, 2008, 06:33:15 PM
You got a man running for president who fought for this country, and fought for yours and his freedom.
And he believes in America not like someones wife we know. And dosen't have to think of answers when asked or lies to the American people  so you here what sounds good to you, but are the answers coming from Obama or maybe from 1 of his 300 advisors? Unbelievable

It really bothers you doesn't it?
Title: Re: All American
Post by: Purge_WTF on October 17, 2008, 04:51:48 AM
You got a man running for president who fought for this country, and fought for yours and his freedom.
And he believes in America not like someones wife we know. And dosen't have to think of answers when asked or lies to the American people  so you here what sounds good to you, but are the answers coming from Obama or maybe from 1 of his 300 advisors? Unbelievable

  And the award for "Gayest Post Of The Year" goes to.....
Title: Re: All American
Post by: Benny B on October 17, 2008, 05:04:52 AM
You got a man running for president who fought for this country, and fought for yours and his freedom.
And he believes in America not like someones wife we know. And dosen't have to think of answers when asked or lies to the American people  so you here what sounds good to you, but are the answers coming from Obama or maybe from 1 of his 300 advisors? Unbelievable
you sound like you may spend the next four years in a deep depression  ;D
Title: Re: All American
Post by: jimijimi on October 17, 2008, 07:32:27 AM
I would just rather see a person with some experiance to run this country, nothing against Obama
i think he's a smart man but what do we realy know about him? most people don't know to much
and it's funny when some of them don't even know what issuses he stands for or who he picked as a running mate. Also most of them never even voted before.
But i guess we will know soon enough who it's going to be.
I have to wonder if there's any True Americans left in the USA.
I would like to see Bill Clinton back in the White house but not possible, so i will just wait for all the good changes Obama is going to make. If he can do it then i will give him a big bump.
Title: Re: All American
Post by: OzmO on October 17, 2008, 08:13:08 AM
I would just rather see a person with some experiance to run this country, nothing against Obama
i think he's a smart man but what do we realy know about him? most people don't know to much
and it's funny when some of them don't even know what issuses he stands for or who he picked as a running mate. Also most of them never even voted before.
But i guess we will know soon enough who it's going to be.
I have to wonder if there's any True Americans left in the USA.
I would like to see Bill Clinton back in the White house but not possible, so i will just wait for all the good changes Obama is going to make. If he can do it then i will give him a big bump.

So what are your standards for being a true American?  voting for McCain?
Title: Re: All American
Post by: CQ on October 17, 2008, 08:20:06 AM
you sound like you may spend the next four years in a deep depression  ;D

He may not be alone. There will be some epic meltdowns no matter what happens ;D
Title: Re: All American
Post by: jimijimi on October 17, 2008, 01:56:41 PM
So what are your standards for being a true American?  voting for McCain?


For one not being friendly with a known terriost who blew up places in our own country and killed two cops while doing it, and look at the other racist he friended, Rev.Wright, Farakhun and the other convicted felon
that lives around the block from him, his name is Rezco or something like that. And his wife who for most of her life did not believe in this country. Oh Mr. All American Obama did he fight for this country? NO
Funny how his people donated $800.000 to ACORN, and who are they pushing people to vote for? Obama.
But it's ok if you resgester 73 times. But all of you who support Obama just turn thier heads to that shit.
I guess you would call him a all American guy right, Change ha! ha!
Title: Re: All American
Post by: jimijimi on October 17, 2008, 05:56:55 PM
Facts are Facts, but most of you probably floated in on a raff or ACORN payed you to vote Obama.
He's a smooth talker and only a sucker would listen to a Con artist like him.
1-God Damm American.- Quote from his pastor
2-I finally believe in American for the first time.-Quote from Mrs.Obama
3-I wish i did more, like blow more shit up.- Quote His friend Bill Ayers
4- Just sign here, oh don't worry if you already resgestered 72 times for Obama.- ACORN
5- I'm just a convicted felon and we hang out.- Mr. Rezco another friend of Obama's

Shaddy people, shaddy Obama, but who cares it's all good right.
At least he dosen't believe in GAY Marriage
Title: Re: All American
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 17, 2008, 06:06:41 PM
You got a man running for president who fought for this country, and fought for yours and his freedom.
And he believes in America not like someones wife we know. And dosen't have to think of answers when asked or lies to the American people  so you here what sounds good to you, but are the answers coming from Obama or maybe from 1 of his 300 advisors? Unbelievable

Four more years of Bush?

No thank you!
Title: Re: All American
Post by: jimijimi on October 17, 2008, 06:36:03 PM
Four more years of Bush?

No thank you!

That's exactly what they want you to think and believe Ron Paul Fan, you know Obama and Mc Caine both voted on issues with Bush, that's why alot of people are voting for Obama. What if it were Regan or B.Clinton
in the White house for the last 8 yrs? Both parties vote on issues. Obama voted on 93 different issues with Bush as did Mc Caine i'm sure, i know this that we don't get all the clear facts.
I just see alot more negatives on the Obama side. Obama talks the talk but can he walk the walk.
He might just talk his way right into the White House. But when he's asked a question, he just dosen't
flow out with the answers as Mc Caine does.

His name is John Mc Caine, Not George Bush.
 
Title: Re: All American
Post by: OzmO on October 17, 2008, 08:21:23 PM

For one not being friendly with a known terriost who blew up places in our own country and killed two cops while doing it, and look at the other racist he friended, Rev.Wright, Farakhun and the other convicted felon
that lives around the block from him, his name is Rezco or something like that. And his wife who for most of her life did not believe in this country. Oh Mr. All American Obama did he fight for this country? NO
Funny how his people donated $800.000 to ACORN, and who are they pushing people to vote for? Obama.
But it's ok if you resgester 73 times. But all of you who support Obama just turn thier heads to that shit.
I guess you would call him a all American guy right, Change ha! ha!

I really think there is a large percentage voting for Obama to make sure Mccain doesn't become president.   and in many people's mind, McCain still represents BUSH who is seen as worse than those people you mentioned.
Title: Re: All American
Post by: jimijimi on October 18, 2008, 05:46:32 AM
I really think there is a large percentage voting for Obama to make sure Mccain doesn't become president.   and in many people's mind, McCain still represents BUSH who is seen as worse than those people you mentioned.

Your right OzmO, i also can't stand Bush, the only good thing he did was after 911, then he screwed that up by going into Iraq, and we are still there getting our young men killed every day for a region that's never going to change. Back in 1991 when his father went to war with Iraq he did't do the right thing with Hussin. So Mr. Bush Jr.
Mr. Ego goes in Iraq under false information about wepons of mass distruction which Hussin said he had just to protect himself from thier crazy neighbor Iran. Which the USA never found.
It's just to bad thier labeling him as G.Bush. Just because Mc Caine is a republican dose not make him G.Bush, he's his own MAN and makes his own decisions. Everybody make a bad decision now and then in icluding Obama

I don't like G.Bush
Title: Re: All American
Post by: garebear on October 18, 2008, 05:56:25 AM
Your right OzmO, i also can't stand Bush, the only good thing he did was after 911, then he screwed that up by going into Iraq, and we are still there getting our young men killed every day for a region that's never going to change. Back in 1991 when his father went to war with Iraq he did't do the right thing with Hussin. So Mr. Bush Jr.
Mr. Ego goes in Iraq under false information about wepons of mass distruction which Hussin said he had just to protect himself from thier crazy neighbor Iran. Which the USA never found.
It's just to bad thier labeling him as G.Bush. Just because Mc Caine is a republican dose not make him G.Bush, he's his own MAN and makes his own decisions. Everybody make a bad decision now and then in icluding Obama

I don't like G.Bush

Jimi, I wish I could get all of my history from you. You most certainly do spin a yarn.
Title: Re: All American
Post by: jimijimi on October 18, 2008, 06:00:36 AM
Jimi, I wish I could get all of my history from you. You most certainly do spin a yarn.

LOL. Tired of listening to all his Jive talk, Screw t i'm voting for Joe the plummer.
Title: Re: All American
Post by: jimijimi on October 18, 2008, 02:02:08 PM
you sound like you may spend the next four years in a deep depression  ;D

Not just me but this country will be in a bigger depression than it is right now for the next 4 yrs.
He will benifit, but we won't. His salary will go and ours won't. Like i said he's ot ready to run the greatest
country in the world, maybe his 300 advisors are. Mc Caine did't make friends with terriost or racist people like Obama did. God forbid something happens to Obama, well at least will have Bidden to take over.
Obama would be better suited as VP.
One thing is you don't hear about is any shaddy people in Mc Caine past, that's because he would't hang with or be friends with a known terriost or go to a church that preaches racist and talks bad agaist this country. But that dosen't seem to matter to the ones voting for That One.
Title: Re: All American
Post by: Slapper on October 18, 2008, 05:36:31 PM
You got a man running for president who fought for this country, and fought for yours and his freedom.
And he believes in America not like someones wife we know. And dosen't have to think of answers when asked or lies to the American people  so you here what sounds good to you, but are the answers coming from Obama or maybe from 1 of his 300 advisors? Unbelievable

How did McCain exactly fight "for our country" in Viet Nam? We slaughtered thousands of human beings, people over there hate our guts... How did he exactly fight "for our freedom"?
Title: Re: All American
Post by: jimijimi on October 18, 2008, 06:38:39 PM
How did McCain exactly fight "for our country" in Viet Nam? We slaughtered thousands of human beings, people over there hate our guts... How did he exactly fight "for our freedom"?

He fought agaist communism and if you remember communist countries were not FREE, and the communist
dictators wanted to rule with a Iron Fist. They did't believe in freedom. North Vietnum wanted to take over
South Vietnum and make it part of thier communist country as did Russia, North Korea and others.
I guess i should teach History classes. What did Obama fight for?
Title: Re: All American
Post by: Slapper on October 18, 2008, 07:22:24 PM
He fought agaist communism and if you remember communist countries were not FREE, and the communist
dictators wanted to rule with a Iron Fist. They did't believe in freedom. North Vietnum wanted to take over
South Vietnum and make it part of thier communist country as did Russia, North Korea and others.
I guess i should teach History classes. What did Obama fight for?

You mean these comunists?:

(http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/b_resources/d_images/image103.jpg)

Cause those people look like dangerous commies to me...

Is this what you're proud of?

And do me a favor, save the freedom bullshit motherfucking fairytail story for the morons who want to believe it. I don't.
Title: Re: All American
Post by: headhuntersix on October 18, 2008, 07:24:23 PM
Yeah...well I have pictures of Taliban murders....my dad the same in Vietnam....we can play this game all night long. We're not the bad guys as much as u would love it to be true. Its war....shit happens.
Title: Re: All American
Post by: Slapper on October 18, 2008, 07:28:11 PM
Yeah...well I have pictures of Taliban murders....my dad the same in Vietnam....we can play this game all night long. We're not the bad guys as much as u would love it to be true. Its war....shit happens.

So... you're basically comparing the Taliban to the US military? And see nothing wrong of it? I mean I don't see the Taliban running around bombing the shit outta the Chileans or the Mexicans in order to bring "freedom" to them.

The only difference is that the Taliban are not actively bombing any other country but their own.

And no, we will not play this game all night long, not because you do not want to discuss it, but because you do not want to hear it.
Title: Re: All American
Post by: headhuntersix on October 18, 2008, 07:32:04 PM
Nope...I'm saying that shit happens.....ur making us the bad guy. We're not...I serve with these guys every day. My dad was a Buff pilot he bombed the North...he was'nt a monster...but mistakes happen. When the VC or the Taliban...and they have done this..hack off the arms of  vacinated children and kill live stock treated by our vets, thats not an accident.
Title: Re: All American
Post by: jimijimi on October 19, 2008, 06:16:21 AM
You mean these comunists?:

(http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/b_resources/d_images/image103.jpg)

Cause those people look like dangerous commies to me...

Is this what you're proud of?

And do me a favor, save the freedom bullshit motherfucking fairytail story for the morons who want to believe it. I don't.

Those are the people we were trying to protect against the North Vietnamese idot, Freedom is why you can say and do what you want in this country. If you don't like it or care about it MOVE. It's people like you
who take it for granted.
And Slapper i'm not a bullshiter or a mother fucker, And because i live in a free country i have a freedom of
choice and can speak my thoughts just like you. FREDOM BABY, try living in Iran then talk to me about freedom.
Title: Re: All American
Post by: jimijimi on October 19, 2008, 06:21:06 AM
Nope...I'm saying that shit happens.....ur making us the bad guy. We're not...I serve with these guys every day. My dad was a Buff pilot he bombed the North...he was'nt a monster...but mistakes happen. When the VC or the Taliban...and they have done this..hack off the arms of  vacinated children and kill live stock treated by our vets, thats not an accident.

Bump for you bro, and Slapper says the Taliban dosen't bomb other countries? Give me a break. Sounds like a Obama fan. Get you facts right bro.
Title: Re: All American
Post by: Slapper on October 19, 2008, 06:49:02 AM
Nope...I'm saying that shit happens.....ur making us the bad guy. We're not...I serve with these guys every day. My dad was a Buff pilot he bombed the North...he was'nt a monster...but mistakes happen. When the VC or the Taliban...and they have done this..hack off the arms of  vacinated children and kill live stock treated by our vets, thats not an accident.

No dude. The American military took a WRONG turn some time after WWII. You can tell the difference just by looking at the reception of the veterans of WWII vs., for example, their Vietnam counterparts... You don't see Nam vets getting honors receptions in downton Hanoi or Saigon... if ya know what I mean. The reason is simple: In WWII we were invited in. In Viet Nam we weren't. In WWII we were defending the integrity of the American territory (Pearl Harbour) and were officially asked to put an end to (by France and the UK I believe) a really, really brutal Nazi regime. And, you know what? No sane head is going to argue that our entrance into WWII was not righteous, even those who argue that it was due to money reasons. All you have to do is look at the concentration camps and see that our arrival was much welcomed.

Turn the page to Viet Nam. No one asked us to intervene. The Vietnamese were NOT threatening out territory. We plant a bogus attack from the North Vietnamese at Gulf of Tonkin while it is well known that American destroyers were firing rounds at civil compounds for days before they actually retaliated (sound familiar?). Etc. And you can make the same case for Iraq or Grenada or Panama or Korea. Shit upon shit upon shit that eventually ends up demolishing the view of the regular hard-working Americans all over the world.

Heck, just look at Americans felt at the end of the war:

(http://media.gallup.com/POLL/Releases/pr050824i.gif)

Now, 60% of Americans said Vietnam was not "worth" fighting for. This is 1960s America, one of the most repressive countries on the planet, where African Americans still have to drink from separate water fountains and the propaganda machine was on full throttle.

Dude, this is us, Americans, who did this:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/My_Lai_massacre.jpg)

It ain't just "it's war, get over it". Put yourself in those people's shoes. Would you like the Chinese to, some day, come into our country, invade it, overthrow the president, commit mass murder, etc. Are you ready to make that trade off?

And by the by, I do not want to sound as though I am calling your dad a murderer, I apologize if I sounded like I was. I am merely saying that as far as the soldiers go, they were victims of the circumstances. Nonetheless, it is your duty as a righteous American to turn down an unjust war if you feel those you will be fighting against pose no physical threat to you or your country apart from what your superiors are telling you.
Title: Re: All American
Post by: Slapper on October 19, 2008, 06:51:01 AM
Bump for you bro, and Slapper says the Taliban dosen't bomb other countries? Give me a break. Sounds like a Obama fan. Get you facts right bro.

What countries have the Taliban bombed except Afghanistan?
Title: Re: All American
Post by: Slapper on October 19, 2008, 07:00:07 AM
Those are the people we were trying to protect against the North Vietnamese idot, Freedom is why you can say and do what you want in this country. If you don't like it or care about it MOVE. It's people like you
who take it for granted.
And Slapper i'm not a bullshiter or a mother fucker, And because i live in a free country i have a freedom of
choice and can speak my thoughts just like you. FREDOM BABY, try living in Iran then talk to me about freedom.

I do not think you understood what I said... Are you a foreigner?

Any ways, the picture itself is of Sourth Vietnamese children fleeing a village that is getting razed by American bombers. This was standard practice in the Mekong Delta for many months. Sometimes they'd evacuate the people (when cameras were around)... sometimes they did not. All in an effort to push the North Vietnamese supporters toward the large cities where they were more easily controlled.
Title: Re: All American
Post by: jimijimi on October 19, 2008, 07:05:57 AM
What countries have the Taliban bombed except Afghanistan?

You don't consider the Taliban a terriost group who has rounded up Men, Women and don't know about children? but they would take them in the back of a pick up truck to the middle of a soccer field in the middle of a game and Execute them. I have something else for you in the next post.
Title: Re: All American
Post by: jimijimi on October 19, 2008, 07:12:52 AM
SLAPPER HERE ARE SOME FACTS FOR YOU, AND THE PICTURE YOU POSTED WAS INOCENT SOUTH VEITNUMISE. The Taliban against the world
The Taliban regime faced international scrutiny and condemnation for its policies. Only Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and the United Arab Emirates recognized the Taliban as Afghanistan's legitimate government. After the September 11, 2001, terrorist attack on the U.S., Saudi Arabia and the UAE cut diplomatic ties with the Taliban.

The Taliban allowed terrorist organizations to run training camps in their territory and, from 1994 to at least 2001, provided refuge for Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaeda organization. The relationship between the Taliban and bin Laden is close, even familial—bin Laden fought with the mujahideen, has financed the Taliban, and has reportedly married one of his daughters to Mullah Muhammad Omar. The United Nations Security Council passed two resolutions, UNSCR 1267 (1999) and 1333 (2000), demanding that the Taliban cease their support for terrorism and hand over bin Laden for trial.

The Taliban recognized the need for international ties but wavered between cooperation—they claimed to have drastically cut opium production in July 2000—and defiance—they pointedly ignored international pleas not to destroy the 2000-year-old Buddhist statues of Bamian. However, they made no effort to curb terrorist activity within Afghanistan, a policy that ultimately led to their undoing.

Even after their ouster, the Taliban's brand of Islamist radicalism threatens to destabilize other countries in the region including Iran, China, Uzbekistan, and Pakistan. The Taliban's relationship with Pakistan is especially problematic. A high percentage of the Taliban are ethnic Pashtuns; Pashtuns are a sizable minority in Pakistan and dominate the Pakistani military. Public support for the Taliban runs very high in the Pashtun North-West Frontier province where pro-Taliban groups have held uprisings and sought to emulate Taliban practices by performing public executions and oppressing women
Title: Re: All American
Post by: Slapper on October 19, 2008, 07:30:20 AM
SLAPPER HERE ARE SOME FACTS FOR YOU, AND THE PICTURE YOU POSTED WAS INOCENT SOUTH VEITNUMISE. The Taliban against the world
The Taliban regime faced international scrutiny and condemnation for its policies. Only Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and the United Arab Emirates recognized the Taliban as Afghanistan's legitimate government. After the September 11, 2001, terrorist attack on the U.S., Saudi Arabia and the UAE cut diplomatic ties with the Taliban.

The Taliban allowed terrorist organizations to run training camps in their territory and, from 1994 to at least 2001, provided refuge for Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaeda organization. The relationship between the Taliban and bin Laden is close, even familial—bin Laden fought with the mujahideen, has financed the Taliban, and has reportedly married one of his daughters to Mullah Muhammad Omar. The United Nations Security Council passed two resolutions, UNSCR 1267 (1999) and 1333 (2000), demanding that the Taliban cease their support for terrorism and hand over bin Laden for trial.

The Taliban recognized the need for international ties but wavered between cooperation—they claimed to have drastically cut opium production in July 2000—and defiance—they pointedly ignored international pleas not to destroy the 2000-year-old Buddhist statues of Bamian. However, they made no effort to curb terrorist activity within Afghanistan, a policy that ultimately led to their undoing.

Even after their ouster, the Taliban's brand of Islamist radicalism threatens to destabilize other countries in the region including Iran, China, Uzbekistan, and Pakistan. The Taliban's relationship with Pakistan is especially problematic. A high percentage of the Taliban are ethnic Pashtuns; Pashtuns are a sizable minority in Pakistan and dominate the Pakistani military. Public support for the Taliban runs very high in the Pashtun North-West Frontier province where pro-Taliban groups have held uprisings and sought to emulate Taliban practices by performing public executions and oppressing women


WOW!!! WOW!!!!

I'm not talking about the Taliban. I am not denfending the Taliban. If you want to talk about them feel free to open a thread about THE FUCKING TALIBAN. And, you know what? I'll be happy to post pictures of their inhumanity too.

However, what country have the Taliban bombed except for Afghanistan?

Apart from that, I am NOT contending that the children are South Vietnamese or not, YOU are saying that. I am saying the the ones doing the bombing ARE AMERICANOS my friend. Running from a bombing raid is not a crime. A Bombing raid is a crime.
Title: Re: All American
Post by: Slapper on October 19, 2008, 07:35:56 AM
You don't consider the Taliban a terriost group who has rounded up Men, Women and don't know about children? but they would take them in the back of a pick up truck to the middle of a soccer field in the middle of a game and Execute them. I have something else for you in the next post.

Answer the fucking question!
Title: Re: All American
Post by: Slapper on October 19, 2008, 07:49:50 AM
If you want to talk about the Taliban open up another thread and I'll be happy to add to it.
Title: Re: All American
Post by: Fatpanda on October 19, 2008, 08:05:48 AM
The reason is simple: In WWII we were invited in. In Viet Nam we weren't. In WWII we were defending the integrity of the American territory (Pearl Harbour) and were officially asked to put an end to (by France and the UK I believe) a really, really brutal Nazi regime.

hahahahaha no you were not asked to come and end the evil nazi regime. ;D another real american making up history to suit his own imagination.  ::)

What countries have the Taliban bombed except Afghanistan?

ever heard of 9-11  ::) osama - who america named as the mastermind behind it, used afganistan as a safe haven. his al queda is intergally linked to the taliban. its not a simple 'they are bad people' kill them situation. These organisations are linked.
Title: Re: All American
Post by: Slapper on October 19, 2008, 08:11:37 AM
hahahahaha no you were not asked to come and end the evil nazi regime. ;D another real american making up history to suit his own imagination.  ::)

Oh, we were. The Brits asked us to help out in Europe. On the other side, the Pacific, we were forced into war because of a serious attack to our territory.

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ever heard of 9-11  ::) osama - who america named as the mastermind behind it, used afganistan as a safe haven. his al queda is intergally linked to the taliban. its not a simple 'they are bad people' kill them situation. These organisations are linked.

Are you seriously saying Al Qaeda = the Taliban? Are you seriously implying that Al Qaeda attacked the US therefore the Taliban attacked the US? Please DO clarify.
Title: Re: All American
Post by: Fatpanda on October 19, 2008, 08:28:31 AM
Oh, we were. The Brits asked us to help out in Europe. On the other side, the Pacific, we were forced into war because of a serious attack to our territory.
Yes we asked you to help out - not to come in and end it for us, as if you are some unstoppable force, and we were sitting just waiting for your divine interevention. The truth is britain and russia won the war - america helped, nothing more.

Are you seriously saying Al Qaeda = the Taliban? Are you seriously implying that Al Qaeda attacked the US therefore the Taliban attacked the US? Please DO clarify.

They are linked yes. They are both muslim extemists organisations. the taliban protected and allowed al queda to operate and train in afganistan. They allowed terrorist acts to be planned and trained for there, they both trained together, the funded each other.

are you seriously claiming the taliban knew nothing about the terrorist nature of al queda?  ::)


Title: Re: All American
Post by: Slapper on October 19, 2008, 08:44:10 AM
Yes we asked you to help out - not to come in and end it for us, as if you are some unstoppable force, and we were sitting just waiting for your divine interevention. The truth is britain and russia won the war - america helped, nothing more.

They are linked yes. They are both muslim extemists organisations. the taliban protected and allowed al queda to operate and train in afganistan. They allowed terrorist acts to be planned and trained for there, they both trained together, the funded each other.

are you seriously claiming the taliban knew nothing about the terrorist nature of al queda?  ::)

I just asked you if you believed the Taliban attacked the US because Al Qaeda atacked the US. It's a yes/no question. Don't give me no bullshit lectures about links between the two and shit alike. STICK TO THE FACTS.
Title: Re: All American
Post by: Fatpanda on October 19, 2008, 08:46:34 AM
I just asked you if you believed the Taliban attacked the US because Al Qaeda atacked the US. It's a yes/no question. Don't give me no bullshit lectures about links between the two and shit alike. STICK TO THE FACTS.

Osama was a member of the taliban - he planned the attacks - so yes the taliban attacked america via al queda.
Title: Re: All American
Post by: Slapper on October 19, 2008, 09:08:33 AM
Osama was a member of the taliban - he planned the attacks - so yes the taliban attacked america via al queda.

You still can't answer the question, can't you?!

First of all, Osama Bin Laden did not plan the attacks, that was Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. Osama Bin Laden, who is a guy mind you, FINANCED the terrorist attack.

You my friend are making ignorant assumptions. The Taliban, who are also motherfuckers, are a (predominantly) Pashtun group. Osama Bin Laden is a Saudi. Two different things. The only links between Bin Laden and the Taliban are via the mujahideen in Afghanistan. Osama Bin Laden along with other various Islamic groups in the area, including the Northern Alliance (who are our buddies), fought against the Russians. Eventually, once Bin Laden was thrown out of the Sudan, the Taliban, who were at this point submerged in a bloody civil war against the other Afghani mujahideen groups, returned the favor by allowing him to live in Afghanistan. In no case, and this has been corroborated by even our CIA, were the Taliban aware that he was trying to carry out a 9/11-caliber attack on us.

Now, please do not generalize and put everyone in the same pot. They are all islamist extremists, some more than others, but the immense majority had other islamic republics as targets until we got into Iraq. That's when we became the target.

Inform yourself.
Title: Re: All American
Post by: Fatpanda on October 19, 2008, 09:31:01 AM
You still can't answer the question, can't you?!

First of all, Osama Bin Laden did not plan the attacks, that was Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. Osama Bin Laden, who is a #### mind you, FINANCED the terrorist attack.

You my friend are making ignorant assumptions. The Taliban, who are also motherfuckers, are a (predominantly) Pashtun group. Osama Bin Laden is a Saudi. Two different things. The only links between Bin Laden and the Taliban are via the mujahideen in Afghanistan. Osama Bin Laden along with other various Islamic groups in the area, including the Northern Alliance (who are our buddies), fought against the Russians. Eventually, once Bin Laden was thrown out of the Sudan, the Taliban, who were at this point submerged in a bloody civil war against the other Afghani mujahideen groups, returned the favor by allowing him to live in Afghanistan. In no case, and this has been corroborated by even our CIA, were the Taliban aware that he was trying to carry out a 9/11-caliber attack on us.

Now, please do not generalize and put everyone in the same pot. They are all islamist extremists, some more than others, but the immense majority had other islamic republics as targets until we got into Iraq. That's when we became the target.

Inform yourself.

is that supposed to impress me?

any monkey with an internet account can google - as you just proved.

nothing you just wrote is new to me, nor does it change the fact that Osama was a member of the taliban, as he partly funded them.

oh and i did answer your question.

hope this helps.
Title: Re: All American
Post by: jimijimi on October 19, 2008, 09:46:58 AM
If you want to talk about the Taliban open up another thread and I'll be happy to add to it.

What country are you from bro, seems like your a little upset? The thread is about a guy who fought agaist comminisum and fought for freedom, sounds like you have a problem with that. Who's side are you on?
I guess you have your believes and i have mine, so don't get so pissed off about mine.
Let me ask you something, do you approve of what B.Ayers did back then? And like he said 6 months
that he did't do enough or, Are you ok what Obama's preacher said about this country (God damm America)
The church Obama went to for 20 yrs, and he married him. Heard you say Americono's sounds like your not even from this country?
I'm not saying Mc Caine is perfect but who is besides my Mother
Title: Re: All American
Post by: jimijimi on October 19, 2008, 11:49:47 AM
Answer the fucking question!

Your Turn...
Title: Re: All American
Post by: Slapper on October 19, 2008, 03:03:58 PM
is that supposed to impress me?

any monkey with an internet account can google - as you just proved.

nothing you just wrote is new to me, nor does it change the fact that Osama was a member of the taliban, as he partly funded them.

oh and i did answer your question.

hope this helps.

Oh MY FUCKING GOD!

What does google have to do.... Any way.  ::) ::) ::)

Obama is not a Taliban you stupid fuck! Bin Laden is considered an "Arab" in Afghanistan. Considering OBL a Taliban is like considering a Brit fighting in Iraq an American just because we're the ones managing the invasion.

And NO, YOU DID NOT FUCKING ANSWER THE QUESTION.

I am seriously fed up with people writing absolute SHIT who don't even bother getting simple facts down.

STICK TO THE DAMN FACTS!! If you'e going to say Obama is a Taliban, PROVE IT!
Title: Re: All American
Post by: Slapper on October 19, 2008, 03:05:59 PM
What country are you from bro, seems like your a little upset? The thread is about a guy who fought agaist comminisum[...]

Fought against what?
Title: Re: All American
Post by: Fatpanda on October 19, 2008, 04:22:58 PM
Oh MY FUCKING GOD!

What does google have to do.... Any way.  ::) ::) ::)

Obama is not a Taliban you stupid fuck! Bin Laden is considered an "Arab" in Afghanistan. Considering OBL a Taliban is like considering a Brit fighting in Iraq an American just because we're the ones managing the invasion.

And NO, YOU DID NOT FUCKING ANSWER THE QUESTION.

I am seriously fed up with people writing absolute SHIT who don't even bother getting simple facts down.

STICK TO THE DAMN FACTS!! If you'e going to say Obama is a Taliban, PROVE IT!

look you stupid girl, the taliban are not a race of people, or a nationality of people. They do not give a fuck about bin laden coming from saudi. they are a religious extremist organisation that include muslim members from all over the world, that took power in afganistan. bin laden became part of that organisation when he started funding them in exchange for protection and a home. He helped train taliban soilders, plan attacks etc including 9-11 all from afgan soil - therefore - now read this closely you dense cvnt 'TALIBAN ARE AS MUCH TO BLAME AS AL QUEDA - BIN LADEM WAS A PART OF THE TALIBAN'

now kill yourself.
Title: Re: All American
Post by: Slapper on October 20, 2008, 04:57:06 AM
look you stupid ####, the taliban are not a race of people, or a nationality of people. They do not give a fuck about bin laden coming from saudi. they are a religious extremist organisation that include muslim members from all over the world, that took power in afganistan. bin laden became part of that organisation when he started funding them in exchange for protection and a home. He helped train taliban soilders, plan attacks etc including 9-11 all from afgan soil - therefore - now read this closely you dense #### 'TALIBAN ARE AS MUCH TO BLAME AS AL QUEDA - BIN LADEM WAS A PART OF THE TALIBAN'

now kill yourself.

Give me a link to a website, like the CIA's or Time's where it is stated, clearly, that Osama Bin Laden was a Taliban. Just one.

Go fuck yourself you fucking ignorant piece of shit!
Title: Re: All American
Post by: Fatpanda on October 20, 2008, 06:12:52 AM
Give me a link to a website, like the CIA's or Time's where it is stated, clearly, that Osama Bin Laden was a Taliban. Just one.

Go fuck yourself you fucking ignorant piece of shit!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban#Relationship_with_Osama_bin_Laden

please read (including the sources) and then applogise

then kill yourself cvnt  >:(

Title: Re: All American
Post by: Slapper on October 20, 2008, 06:46:35 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban#Relationship_with_Osama_bin_Laden

please read (including the sources) and then applogise

then kill yourself ####  >:(



First and foremost, where on the link that you just posted does is say that OSAMA BIN LADEN IS A TALIBAN?

Secondly, why would you go out of your way to post a link to something that DOES NOT PROVE YOUR POINT. Are you seriously THAT DUMB?

Title: Re: All American
Post by: OzmO on October 20, 2008, 07:00:46 AM
First and foremost, where on the link that you just posted does is say that OSAMA BIN LADEN IS A TALIBAN?

Secondly, why would you go out of your way to post a link to something that DOES NOT PROVE YOUR POINT. Are you seriously THAT DUMB?



ouch   ;D
Title: Re: All American
Post by: Fatpanda on October 20, 2008, 08:26:41 AM
First and foremost, where on the link that you just posted does is say that OSAMA BIN LADEN IS A TALIBAN?

Secondly, why would you go out of your way to post a link to something that DOES NOT PROVE YOUR POINT. Are you seriously THAT DUMB?



LOOK YOU FVCKING RETARD - I HAVE AT NO POINT SAID OSSAMA BIN LADEN IS A TALIBAN

READ THAT AGAIN COCK BREATH - I HAVE AT NO POINT IN THIS THREAD SAID BIN LADEN IS A TALIBAN

I DID SAY AL QAEDA AND THE TALIBAN ARE CLOSELY LINKED.

THE LINK I PROVIDED BACKS THAT UP.

NOW REMOVE THAT COCK FROM YOUR MOUTH AND APPLOGISE.

OR WILL YOU TRY TO PRETEND ONCE AGAIN THAT I SAID SOMETHING I DIDN'T AND DEFLECT THE AGRUMENT  ::)

YOU HAVE OWNED YOURSELF WITH YOUR LACK OF INTELLIGENCE  ::)

HOPE THIS HELPS.
Title: Re: All American
Post by: OzmO on October 20, 2008, 08:51:19 AM
LOOK YOU FVCKING RETARD - I HAVE AT NO POINT SAID OSSAMA BIN LADEN IS A TALIBAN

READ THAT AGAIN COCK BREATH - I HAVE AT NO POINT IN THIS THREAD SAID BIN LADEN IS A TALIBAN

I DID SAY AL QAEDA AND THE TALIBAN ARE CLOSELY LINKED.

THE LINK I PROVIDED BACKS THAT UP.

NOW REMOVE THAT COCK FROM YOUR MOUTH AND APPLOGISE.

OR WILL YOU TRY TO PRETEND ONCE AGAIN THAT I SAID SOMETHING I DIDN'T AND DEFLECT THE AGRUMENT  ::)

YOU HAVE OWNED YOURSELF WITH YOUR LACK OF INTELLIGENCE  ::)

HOPE THIS HELPS.


ouch


What did you mean when you said he was part of the taliban?
Title: Re: All American
Post by: Slapper on October 20, 2008, 08:53:18 AM
LOOK YOU FVCKING RETARD - I HAVE AT NO POINT SAID OSSAMA BIN LADEN IS A TALIBAN

READ THAT AGAIN COCK BREATH - I HAVE AT NO POINT IN THIS THREAD SAID BIN LADEN IS A TALIBAN

I DID SAY AL QAEDA AND THE TALIBAN ARE CLOSELY LINKED.

THE LINK I PROVIDED BACKS THAT UP.

NOW REMOVE THAT COCK FROM YOUR MOUTH AND APPLOGISE.

OR WILL YOU TRY TO PRETEND ONCE AGAIN THAT I SAID SOMETHING I DIDN'T AND DEFLECT THE AGRUMENT  ::)

YOU HAVE OWNED YOURSELF WITH YOUR LACK OF INTELLIGENCE  ::)

HOPE THIS HELPS.

I rest my case:

Osama was a member of the taliban - he planned the attacks - so yes the taliban attacked america via al queda.
Title: Re: All American
Post by: OzmO on October 20, 2008, 08:54:38 AM
I rest my case:


lol  i should have read up further.   lol


So does a warranty come with ownership?
Title: Re: All American
Post by: Slapper on October 20, 2008, 09:01:38 AM
lol  i should have read up further.   lol


So does a warranty come with ownership?

Dude, I sweat to God I try not to get myself in any of these discussions, but I see A LOT of people making allegations that have long been proven to be wrong. I mean, who AT THIS STAGE OF THE GAME can seriously say that OBL, who I hate by the way, planned the 9/11 attacks and that he is a Taliban. I mean... what can you say?
Title: Re: All American
Post by: Fatpanda on October 20, 2008, 10:45:25 AM
Dude, I sweat to God I try not to get myself in any of these discussions, but I see A LOT of people making allegations that have long been proven to be wrong. I mean, who AT THIS STAGE OF THE GAME can seriously say that OBL, who I hate by the way, planned the 9/11 attacks and that he is a Taliban. I mean... what can you say?

wordplay, nothing more. He trained them, he funded them, he was protected by them, both organisations are linked.
Title: Re: All American
Post by: OzmO on October 20, 2008, 10:56:30 AM
wordplay, nothing more. He trained them, he funded them, he was protected by them, both organisations are linked.

You still haven't addressed what you said.

Why not?

Osama was a member of the taliban - he planned the attacks - so yes the taliban attacked america via al queda.

and

LOOK YOU FVCKING RETARD - I HAVE AT NO POINT SAID OSSAMA BIN LADEN IS A TALIBAN

I HAVE AT NO POINT IN THIS THREAD SAID BIN LADEN IS A TALIBAN

Title: Re: All American
Post by: jimijimi on October 20, 2008, 12:58:15 PM
I know alot of you are for Obama and that's your choice, but not a good one in my book.
But that's just my oppion.
There is so many things people that most of you don't know about him and his relationships with others.
He had different mintors growing up, and some of them were not shown on T.V, and there the ones they don't want you to know about. They won't even say the real reason why Col. Powel is backing him.
There's so much the voters don't know and it probaley won't matter to them anyway because most of them don't know what he believes in and really stands for. If he believes in what you think he dose,
then he would't have been hanging with the wrong people to cause all this conterversty.
Look at the picture, you don't hear all of these bad relationships about Mc Caine do you.
He would't put himself there. I feel sorry for this country if he's elected.
Title: Re: All American
Post by: OzmO on October 20, 2008, 01:03:49 PM
I know alot of you are for Obama and that's your choice, but not a good one in my book.
But that's just my oppion.
There is so many things people that most of you don't know about him and his relationships with others.
He had different mintors growing up, and some of them were not shown on T.V, and there the ones they don't want you to know about. They won't even say the real reason why Col. Powel is backing him.
There's so much the voters don't know and it probaley won't matter to them anyway because most of them don't know what he believes in and really stands for. If he believes in what you think he dose,
then he would't have been hanging with the wrong people to cause all this conterversty.
Look at the picture, you don't hear all of these bad relationships about Mc Caine do you.
He would't put himself there. I feel sorry for this country if he's elected.

You can thank BUSH for most of this.  Had BUSH just even had a average presidency Obama would have never made it in the primaries. 

As far as his mentors and all that other stuff, it's just fear spin.  Most people are acting as if the second Obama gets elect we become the United Communists States of America and EVERYONE's taxes will quadruple.   It's ridiculous.   
Title: Re: All American
Post by: Fatpanda on October 20, 2008, 02:01:45 PM
i said it by mistake, as i was caught up in arguing, and slapper managed to wear me down into saying what he wanted me to - i will not be caught out by him again.

However he has not addressed that I said the taliban and al queda are linked - iand hence osama and the taliban are linked - i proved this by my link - he conveniently ignored this throughout my posts though.

unless he thinks america went into afganistan to take over their vast fortunes in oil and mineral reserves  ::)
Title: Re: All American
Post by: garebear on October 20, 2008, 03:08:01 PM
The US invaded Afghanistan for the potassium.
Title: Re: All American
Post by: jimijimi on October 20, 2008, 05:18:13 PM
The US invaded Afghanistan for the potassium.

No i think it was for the Opium lol.