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i have decided im abondoning squats for good, in order to put all my focus on upper body development. doing legs takes too much out of you and limits the time you have to dedicate to the parts that actually show and slows recovery time for you other groups. and lets face it doing squats just sucks asshole. nobody sees your quads anyway unless you are naked and at that point it doesnt matter anyway. ALSO, you do not need bulging quads to look good. from now on im going for the Serge Nubret/lee haney look. you can not train quads and still look good, all that counts are shoulders, arms, lats and chest anyways unless you are a competitive bber.
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You can keep training legs without squats. ::)
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i have decided im abondoning squats for good, in order to put all my focus on upper body development. doing legs takes too much out of you and limits the time you have to dedicate to the parts that actually show and slows recovery time for you other groups. and lets face it doing squats just sucks asshole. nobody sees your quads anyway unless you are naked and at that point it doesnt matter anyway. ALSO, you do not need bulging quads to look good. from now on im going for the Serge Nubret/lee haney look. you can not train quads and still look good, all that counts are shoulders, arms, lats and chest anyways unless you are a competitive bber.
not really, tiny legs look ugly IMO
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not really, tiny legs look ugly IMO
I agree. Most(all) girls like good legs on a man... not untrained twigs. And when I say good legs I don't mean they have to be Branch Warren size, but legs with atleast some muscle on them.
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You can keep training legs without squats. ::)
there is no substitute for squats in leg training. all the extensions in the world arent going to do shit without squats. unless you are juiced or just have great leg genetics, you arent going to build decent legs without squats.
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there is no substitute for squats in leg training. all the extensions in the world arent going to do shit without squats. unless you are juiced or just have great leg genetics, you arent going to build decent legs without squats.
pistol squats (one legged squats) are the answer. They build the legs better and don't leave you hurting for days.
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i have decided im abondoning squats for good, in order to put all my focus on upper body development. doing legs takes too much out of you and limits the time you have to dedicate to the parts that actually show and slows recovery time for you other groups. and lets face it doing squats just sucks asshole. nobody sees your quads anyway unless you are naked and at that point it doesnt matter anyway. ALSO, you do not need bulging quads to look good. from now on im going for the Serge Nubret/lee haney look. you can not train quads and still look good, all that counts are shoulders, arms, lats and chest anyways unless you are a competitive bber.
Fuckin A' right dude. Squats do suck and working out legs in general sucks only slightly less than that.
Legs takes days to recover from and they get worked enough walking around.
Girls and guys wear shorts after the age of 18 anyway so who cares. These days most men wear shorts that drop below their knees. John Matrix is laying down legendary shit here.
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ime 6ft.2 and i fucking hate barbell squats, ime not very flexible either, so if i try going atg my back just ends up bending, fuck them they are bad for your back anyway, its a unnatural movement
My leg workout =
Leg Press
Leg Extension
Hack Squats
Barbell Squats instead of leg press somtimes but ime fucking terrible at them as i said already.
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there is no substitute for squats in leg training. all the extensions in the world arent going to do shit without squats. unless you are juiced or just have great leg genetics, you arent going to build decent legs without squats.
There's plenty of ways to make up for squats, but ok.
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there is no substitute for squats in leg training. all the extensions in the world arent going to do shit without squats. unless you are juiced or just have great leg genetics, you arent going to build decent legs without squats.
bullshit,
Leg press and Machine squats/hack squats.
behind the neck barbell squats is not the only squatting movement in existance.
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wow!
you just discovered what 99.9% of recreational/retired from competition/ serious and smart weight lifters do!
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bullshit,
Leg press and Machine squats/hack squats.
behind the neck barbell squats is not the only squatting movement in existance.
machine SQUATS and hack SQUATS are squats. and leg press is good but not as effective as squats. also the one-legged shit as well as front squats and even hack squats are horrible for your knees/jjoints/tendons/ligament parts.
plus after legs you cant even walk for like 3 days. forget about stairs. i dont like seeing the world from the viewpoint of an 80yr old arthritis sufferer on a cold day.
FUCK LEGS
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simply don't forget the calves, cause even in a short people can see your calves ;D
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nothing....NOTHING!....compares to real squats..anyone that trys to work around squats are selling themselves short.
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also the one-legged shit [is] horrible for your knees/jjoints/tendons/ligament parts.
plus after legs you cant even walk for like 3 days. forget about stairs. i dont like seeing the world from the viewpoint of an 80yr old arthritis sufferer on a cold day.
FUCK LEGS
This is not true, can you do a full pistol squat, ass to grass?
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John Matrix Exposed
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e49/ggriffithiii/earthwormjim.jpg)
:D
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I've just started training legs every other week instead of once a week or twice a week. It's pretty rare for most guys, but I'm also really bottom heavy. At the same time though, I don't want to be a chest and arm warrior who never works lower body.
I just slaughtered my legs right now and I'm stretching them at my desk as best I can. Was so dogged that I fell asleep on the couch too and I'm stiff as a board. Leg training is brutal.
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This is not true, can you do a full pistol squat, ass to grass?
any squat fully ass to grass, ESPECIALLY one-legged squats is horrible for your knees. at least for me this is the case
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Train legs? or not train legs? I think the real question is are u or are u not a pussy?
Its like saying, lets build a house but we will fvck the foundations off!
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Just do leg press
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If you want to have an armonious physique , you have to take care of the legs too ...
My advice for legs is :
1ce a week
15 min cardio to warm up
5-6 sets of squats ( can pyramid or stay the same...don't matter )
strech
massage once a week ( legs )
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If you want to have an armonious physique , you have to take care of the legs too ...
My advice for legs is :
1ce a week
15 min cardio to warm up
5-6 sets of squats ( can pyramid or stay the same...don't matter )
strech
massage once a week ( legs )
I just hit the squat rack and do the bar for a set of 20, then put on 135lbs and work my way up to three plates. If you do squats controlled and PROPERLY then you'll grow great legs. In addition to that, I do a couple light sets of leg extensions and single leg extensions. Gives you a sick pump and helps to get blood in there. I stretch my legs really good during my leg extensions too.
It kills the next day but the pain subsides quickly. Stretching really helps with recovery and growth. Seems to make you more sore but it does pass quicker.
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any squat fully ass to grass, ESPECIALLY one-legged squats is horrible for your knees. at least for me this is the case
you are probably too stiff in the hips and are letting your knee drift forward. you need to sit back into the squat
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/legpowerabig.jpg)
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hahahaha, why the fucck would anyone do that? ;D
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you are probably too stiff in the hips and are letting your knee drift forward. you need to sit back into the squat
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/legpowerabig.jpg)
that guy clearly has massive legs from all these one legged movements
::) ::) ::)
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If you want to have an armonious physique , you have to take care of the legs too ...
My advice for legs is :
1ce a week
15 min cardio to warm up
5-6 sets of squats ( can pyramid or stay the same...don't matter )
strech
massage once a week ( legs )
How many reps are you doing per set?
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you are probably too stiff in the hips and are letting your knee drift forward. you need to sit back into the squat
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/legpowerabig.jpg)
Wow, what a beast. I bet everyone at yoga class is intimidated when that guy shows up!!
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Do 1 set of 20rep squats a week then. WIll build muscle without going overboard.
My legs are poop but i have added 5lbs to my weight in teh past 4 weeks since i am back squatting
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your upperbody isnt going to get bigger cause you quit training legs ::) probably the opposite as squats stimulate hormones in your body and overall growth.
you're just a lazy fuck and have no right to call yourself a bodybuilder.
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How many reps are you doing per set?
15@least
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15@least
sev i admit your legs are good but you took copious amounts of drugs so squatting to shit was gonna make your legs grow
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sev i admit your legs are good but you took copious amounts of drugs so squatting to shit was gonna make your legs grow
:D ::)
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obviously im exaggerating but you get my drift
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your upperbody isnt going to get bigger cause you quit training legs ::) probably the opposite as squats stimulate hormones in your body and overall growth.
you're just a lazy fuck and have no right to call yourself a bodybuilder.
I have to chime in from experience on the truth of this statement. A few years back I had to take a year off from working out my legs due to a knee injury. Worst year lifting I have ever had. Zero gains, lost my vascularity completely, and trying to maintain my normal levels of being lean was extremely hard. I was doing personal bests for all my upper-body lifts but you couldn't tell by looking. My first month doing legs again I get pulled in to take a piss-test for AAS while I was in the USAF. An expensive but very nice compliment for a lifetime natty. It had nothing to due with size but how much more lean and vascular I was. Just because I started squats again. At the two month mark after training legs I put on a solid 10 pounds. Yea, some of it was water in my thighs due to inflammation most likely, but it was very much a visual difference in lean mass overall.
Get in the rack and squat. Quit making excuses.
edit: that one legged squat makes my knees hurt looking at it.
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I have to chime in from experience on the truth of this statement. A few years back I had to take a year off from working out my legs due to a knee injury. Worst year lifting I have ever had. Zero gains, lost my vascularity completely, and trying to maintain my normal levels of being lean was extremely hard. I was doing personal bests for all my upper-body lifts but you couldn't tell by looking. My first month doing legs again I get pulled in to take a piss-test for AAS while I was in the USAF. An expensive but very nice compliment for a lifetime natty. It had nothing to due with size but how much more lean and vascular I was. Just because I started squats again. At the two month mark after training legs I put on a solid 10 pounds. Yea, some of it was water in my thighs due to inflammation most likely, but it was very much a visual difference in lean mass overall.
Get in the rack and squat. Quit making excuses.
edit: that one legged squat makes my knees hurt looking at it.
did you stop doing deadlifts also, and did you start deadlifting again when you started squatting?
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obviously im exaggerating but you get my drift
no i don't i think you hae no cluewhach you'retalking about
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did you stop doing deadlifts also, and did you start deadlifting again when you started squatting?
Ahh, good question. To be quite honest I wasn't doing deadlifts at this point of my lifting career. I still had a fear of them due to all the retards I saw debilitate themselves in high school. But to answer fully, I didn't start doing deads until a full year after I started squats again. Woooohhh boy.....doing squats AND deads will get your natural juice going. There are times I WANT to make an excuse not to do them...but they work soooo damned well I can't leave them out. I'm a big proponent of doing what works best no matter how hard it is. Deads and squats are as hard and intense as it gets.
Also, when I started doing deads my back started blowing up as if I had started training it for the first time. This coming from someone who has done intense barbell rows since he stepped foot in the gym.
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no i don't i think you hae no cluewhach you'retalking about
steroids make you phenomenally bigger and stronger.
Guy in my gym trained years. Took one injection a week for 8 weeks. He said by week 2 he could do his 10RM on a machine for 20reps
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Ahh, good question. To be quite honest I wasn't doing deadlifts at this point of my lifting career. I still had a fear of them due to all the retards I saw debilitate themselves in high school. But to answer fully, I didn't start doing deads until a full year after I started squats again. Woooohhh boy.....doing squats AND deads will get your natural juice going. There are times I WANT to make an excuse not to do them...but they work soooo damned well I can't leave them out. I'm a big proponent of doing what works best no matter how hard it is. Deads and squats are as hard and intense as it gets.
Also, when I started doing deads my back started blowing up as if I had started training it for the first time. This coming from someone who has done intense barbell rows since he stepped foot in the gym.
i took a break from squats and deads for 4 months or so before cause of sciatic nerve problem, and one thing i really notices is, when you do squats and deads(as hardcore as you can), ALL other movements/workouts are easy as shit. . .training chest it easy as pie for me, very enjoyable to train. whereas when i didnt do squats or deads it seemed harder. . .but nothing beats the feeling you get after going all out on squats and deads.
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If you want to have an armonious physique , you have to take care of the legs too ...
My advice for legs is :
1ce a week
15 min cardio to warm up
5-6 sets of squats ( can pyramid or stay the same...don't matter )
strech
massage once a week ( legs )
WTF is a "armonious physique"??
I found that JJ Marsh (bodybuilder from the early 90's who had enormous thighs) was bang on when he claimed that squatting 3 times a week will make thighs grow like weeds. I was crazy enough to try it, and sure enough, my thighs grew and grew. It's not easy, but I'm convinced that 3x/week squatting is sure fire way to shock thighs into serious growth, providing you take in plenty of healthy calories.
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i took a break from squats and deads for 4 months or so before cause of sciatic nerve problem, and one thing i really notices is, when you do squats and deads(as hardcore as you can), ALL other movements/workouts are easy as shit. . .training chest it easy as pie for me, very enjoyable to train. whereas when i didnt do squats or deads it seemed harder. . .but nothing beats the feeling you get after going all out on squats and deads.
Through injury i was forced to do this.
Now i am back i am adding serious weights. feeling strong and getting bigger
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Through injury i was forced to do this.
Now i am back i am adding serious weights. feeling strong and getting bigger
im a month into training after almost 2 year layoff, out on 20-25lbs this month already, getting stronger fast too 8)
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Yup, just proof the basics hard and heavy work better than everything else.
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WTF is a "armonious physique"??
I found that JJ Marsh (bodybuilder from the early 90's who had enormous thighs) was bang on when he claimed that squatting 3 times a week will make thighs grow like weeds. I was crazy enough to try it, and sure enough, my thighs grew and grew. It's not easy, but I'm convinced that 3x/week squatting is sure fire way to shock thighs into serious growth, providing you take in plenty of healthy calories.
how many sets
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how many sets
This was back in the late 90's when I experimented with this, but if I recall correctly, I was squatting for about 8 sets of 10-12 reps only. Several years later I wanted to see if I could get similar results using the incline leg press machine, but the results did not compare. To this day whenever I want to shock my thighs into new growth I switch to 3x/week squats and the legs grow again.
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your upperbody isnt going to get bigger cause you quit training legs ::) probably the opposite as squats stimulate hormones in your body and overall growth.
you're just a lazy fuck and have no right to call yourself a bodybuilder.
1.i am a lazy fuck
2.i dont call myself a bodybuilder
3. you can get the same 'stimulation' you speak of from deadlifts
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1.i am a lazy fuck
2.i dont call myself a bodybuilder
3. you can get the same 'stimulation' you speak of from deadlifts
your choice if you want to be a pussy, pussy.
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1.i am a lazy fuck
2.i dont call myself a bodybuilder
3. you can get the same 'stimulation' you speak of from deadlifts
I think you're just a big pussy to be honest.
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i took a break from squats and deads for 4 months or so before cause of sciatic nerve problem, and one thing i really notices is, when you do squats and deads(as hardcore as you can), ALL other movements/workouts are easy as shit. . .training chest it easy as pie for me, very enjoyable to train. whereas when i didnt do squats or deads it seemed harder. . .but nothing beats the feeling you get after going all out on squats and deads.
You got me motivated. Cool shit.
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i have decided im abondoning squats for good, in order to put all my focus on upper body development. doing legs takes too much out of you and limits the time you have to dedicate to the parts that actually show and slows recovery time for you other groups. and lets face it doing squats just sucks asshole. nobody sees your quads anyway unless you are naked and at that point it doesnt matter anyway. ALSO, you do not need bulging quads to look good. from now on im going for the Serge Nubret/lee haney look. you can not train quads and still look good, all that counts are shoulders, arms, lats and chest anyways unless you are a competitive bber.
right on broskie, fuck legs they take healing time away from muscles that matter lol
but maybe for a balanced physique without the pain of leg day just have leg day be a few sets of squat so you still get the possitive hormone releasing effects that may help your upper body, just enough squats to do something without getting sore :D...btw this is real advice, no homo.
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you can not train quads and still look good, all that counts are shoulders, arms, lats and chest anyways unless you are a competitive bber.
QFT.
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"Don't train legs, cus nobody sees them anyway."
-James Phoenix
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"Don't train legs, cus nobody sees them anyway."
-James Phoenix
Well, down here in Florida it gets quite warm (not just a rumor) and shorts are normal wear around here. Having striated calves and a teardrop hanging by your knee is always a plus.
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Some people train,others merely work out !!
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you're a pussy.
if you are physically capable, and don't squat, you are just a bitch.
hang your head in shame.
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ime 6ft.2 and i fucking hate barbell squats, ime not very flexible either, so if i try going atg my back just ends up bending, fuck them they are bad for your back anyway, its a unnatural movement
My leg workout =
Leg Press
Leg Extension
Hack Squats
Barbell Squats instead of leg press somtimes but ime fucking terrible at them as i said already.
I'm 6'5 and have similar problems. We just aren't meant to be heavy squatters with good form. But that doesn't mean us taller guys can't get a lot out of squatting. I find a very wide stance makes a world of difference. Toe flare makes a difference as well. But I'm a pussy I guess cause I only squat 300lbs for reps and one rep max close to 375 at 6'5 with 35 inch quads!
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I'm 6'5 and have similar problems. We just aren't meant to be heavy squatters with good form. But that doesn't mean us taller guys can't get a lot out of squatting. I find a very wide stance makes a world of difference. Toe flare makes a difference as well. But I'm a pussy I guess cause I only squat 300lbs for reps and one rep max close to 375 at 6'5 with 35 inch quads!
are you claiming 35" quads?
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are you claiming 35" quads?
i'm seriously hoping he means 35 inches long instead of 35 inches around. ::)
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Unless musclemcmanus is really Glenn Ross of Kirk karwoski
Even at 6'5 35" legs are insane! Bigger looking than 99.99% of bodybuilders and powerlifters
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maybe musclemcmanus shoots synthol in his quads.
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Some people train,others merely work out !!
This thread is proof of how shitty of a bodybuilding site this is.
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Unless musclemcmanus is really Glenn Ross of Kirk karwoski
Even at 6'5 35" legs are insane! Bigger looking than 99.99% of bodybuilders and powerlifters
At the thickest point yes they are rivaling 35 inchers! :) With a 375lb squat what do you expect? I'm 6'5 and 250lbs of solid fucking mass biotches! I'd make Glenn Ross look like a child.
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ahhhh a wiseacre... ;D
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At the thickest point yes they are rivaling 35 inchers! :) With a 375lb squat what do you expect? I'm 6'5 and 250lbs of solid fucking mass biotches! I'd make Glenn Ross look like a child.
maybe you have 35 inches around your waist .....
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At the thickest point yes they are rivaling 35 inchers! :) With a 375lb squat what do you expect? I'm 6'5 and 250lbs of solid fucking mass biotches! I'd make Glenn Ross look like a child.
do you mean each leg?
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maybe you have 35 inches around your waist .....
I have a 36 inch waist unlike all the little fairies walking around with 32"ers and smaller! Big waists mean POWER! ;D
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I have a 36 inch waist unlike all the little fairies walking around with 32"ers and smaller! Big waists mean POWER! ;D
36 inch waist is not big for a bber bro its pretty small/average.
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36 inch waist is not big for a bber bro its pretty small/average.
I'm just screwing around.