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I told you suckas Powell was voting for Obama. He's just making it public. ;)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27265490#27265490
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BOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SHOCK AND AWE ;D
wow, that's an amazing endorsement too. what he had to say was very powerful.
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Former Secretary of State Colin Powell announced Sunday that he will be voting for Sen. Barack Obama. "He has both style and substance. I think he is a transformational figure," Powell said on NBC's Meet the Press.
"Obama displayed a steadiness. Showed intellectual vigor. He has a definitive way of doing business that will do us well," Powell said.
Powell said he questioned Sen. John McCain's judgment in picking Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate because he doesn't think she is ready to be president.
He also said he was disappointed with some of McCain's campaign tactics, such as bringing up Obama's ties to former 1960s radical Bill Ayers.
Following the interview, Powell told reporters outside NBC's Washington studio: "I think that Senator Obama brings a fresh set of eyes, fresh set of ideas to the table. I think that Senator McCain, as gifted as he is, is essentially going to execute the Republican agenda, the orthodoxy of the Republican agenda with a new face and a maverick approach to it, and he'd be quite good at it, but i think we need more than that."
Aside from their shared history as Republican military men, Powell's endorsement is significant due to the fact that McCain has repeatedly singled him out for lavish praise. In a July New York Times interview, McCain described the former secretary of state and Joint Chiefs chairman as "a man who I admire as much as any man in the world, person in the world" when answering a question in which Powell was not brought up. Meanwhile, near the same time as that interview, McCain was reportedly considering Powell as a potential running mate.
McCain's high opinion of Powell as one of the "most credible, most respected" men in America is not merely an election-year spasm, either. When asked in 2001 if he would have chosen Powell for a Cabinet position had he succeeded in his first presidential run, McCain said "oh, yes." During two December 2000 appearances on NBC Nightly News, McCain described himself as "exuberant" over Powell's selection as secretary of state, which he predicted would secure "a beneficial effect on the conduct of American foreign policy." McCain added in another TV appearance that President Bush was "blessed" to have Powell working for him. In 2003, when Powell faced criticism from Newt Gingrich over his plan to travel to Syria, it was McCain who rose to the secretary's defense on MSNBC's Hardball, when he said: "I think it's appropriate that Colin Powell is going there."
Even at the end of Powell's somewhat frustrating tenure in George W. Bush's inner circle of policy advisers, McCain praised his overall performance, saying: "When he took the helm at the State Department nearly four years ago, I was confident that Secretary Powell would lead with honor and distinction ... I have not been disappointed." And in a CBS interview during this year's primary race, McCain suggested that one of President Bush's chief failures "was not to listen more to our military leadership, including people like General Colin Powell."
The praise has not only run in one direction, as Powell described McCain the "toughest man I've ever met" last year. But in the end, what sounded like a compliment could have been the beginning of the end. During this summer's conflict between Russia and Georgia, Powell criticized McCain for being, in essence, too mindlessly tough. When asked by CNN's what McCain meant when he said "We are all Georgians now," Powell demurred. "One candidate said that, and I'll let the candidate explain it for himself."
When pressed for further opinion, Powell distanced himself from McCain's staunchly pro-Georgian line. "The fact of the matter is that you have to be very careful in a situation like this not just to leap to one side or the other until you take a good analysis of the whole situation," Powell said, tamping down the rush to herald the rise of a new Soviet threat.
"The Russian Federation is not going to become the Soviet Union again. That movie failed at the box office. But they do have interests. And we have to think carefully about their interests."
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Man we need more blacks like Powell. I've always liked him.
Anywho......Boom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
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Is that a fat lady I hear singing in the background? :D
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:D
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He just announced it on "Press The Meat" a few minutes ago. Boy, Fux News is gonna have a field day.
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I told you suckas Powell was voting for Obama. He's just making it public. ;)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27265490#27265490
Colin Powell = final nail in McCain's coffin. :D
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Colin Powell endorses Obama
(CNN) -- Former Secretary of State Colin Powell announced Sunday that he will be voting for Sen. Barack Obama, citing the Democrat's "ability to inspire" and the "inclusive nature of his campaign."
Former Secretary of State Colin Powell says he is voting for Barack Obama.
Former Secretary of State Colin Powell says he is voting for Barack Obama.
"I think he is a transformational figure, he is a new generation coming onto the world stage, onto the American stage, and for that reason I'll be voting for Sen. Barack Obama," Powell said on NBC's "Meet the Press."
Powell said he was concerned about what he characterized as a recent negative turn of Republican candidate Sen. John McCain's campaign, such as the campaign's attempts to tie Obama to former 1960s radical Bill Ayers.
"I think that's inappropriate. I understand what politics is about -- I know how you can go after one another, and that's good. But I think this goes too far, and I think it has made the McCain campaign look a little narrow. It's not what the American people are looking for," he said.
Powell, a retired U.S. general and a Republican, was once seen as a possible presidential candidate himself.
Powell said he has some concerns about the direction of the Republican Party, adding that it has "moved more to the right than I would like to see it."
In regard to the financial crisis, which Powell called the candidates' "final exam," Powell said McCain appeared unsteady in dealing with it, while Obama had excelled in handling the situation.
"Obama displayed a steadiness, an intellectual curiosity, a depth of knowledge," Powell said.
"He has met the standard of being a successful president, being an exceptional president," he said.
During the campaign, Powell has met with both candidates and said he has a lot of respect for McCain. He said Sunday that he thinks both candidates are qualified to be president.
"It isn't easy for me to disappoint Sen. McCain in the way that I have this morning, and I regret that," Powell said.
Speaking on Fox News Sunday, McCain said he respects and admires Powell, and the announcement "doesn't come as a surprise."
"I'm also very pleased to have the endorsement of four former secretaries of state -- Secretaries [Henry] Kissinger, [James] Baker, [Lawrence] Eagleburger, and [Alexander] Haig -- and I'm proud to have the endorsement of well over 200 retired Army generals and admirals," McCain said.
Powell served as Secretary of State under President Bush from 2001 to 2005.
The possibility of a Powell endorsement has been rumored for several months.
On August 13, Powell's office denied a report on Fox News by commentator Bill Kristol that Powell had decided to publicly back Obama at the Democratic National Convention.
Powell himself brushed off queries on any potential presidential nod but told ABC News in August that he would not be going to Denver, Colorado, for the convention.
Back in February, Powell told CNN's Wolf Blitzer that he was weighing an endorsement of a Democratic or independent candidate.
Powell has offered praise for Obama, calling him an "exciting person on the political stage."
"He has energized a lot of people in America," said Powell. "He has energized a lot of people around the world. And so I think he is worth listening to and seeing what he stands for."
The former general, who has largely steered clear of politics since leaving the Bush administration, noted that the next president will need to work to restore America's standing in the world.
Powell gave the keynote address at the Republican National Convention in support of George W. Bush in 2000.
Powell said Sunday that he has no plans to campaign for Obama
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The Most Important Quote that Colin Powell just made:
“Every day, there was a different approach,” he said, adding that he also “would have difficulty with two more conservative appointments to the Supreme Court.”
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This was completely predictable.
RACE trumps everything, including common sense.
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This was completely predictable.
RACE trumps everything, including common sense.
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This was completely predictable.
RACE trumps everything, including common sense.
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double that
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This was completely predictable.
RACE trumps everything, including common sense.
yes, he left out him most important sentence
" I'm voting for obama because he's black."
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intelligent guy, what does he do in that party?
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Part 3
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intelligent guy, what does he do in that party?
Colin Luther Powell, KCB (Honorary), MSC, (born April 5, 1937) is a retired General in the United States Army. He was the 65th United States Secretary of State (2001–2005), serving under President George W. Bush. As a General in the United States Army, Powell also served as National Security Advisor (1987–1989) and as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (1989–1993), holding the latter position during the Gulf War. He was the first and, so far, the only Jamaican-American to serve on the Joint Chiefs of Staff or in the Cabinet.
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This was completely predictable.
RACE trumps everything, including common sense.
That's pretty much why most of his supporters are voting for him. The other is his age.
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That's pretty much why most of his supporters are voting for him. The other is his age.
Don`t be ignorant. Seriously. I don`t believe you really think that. If you do, it really shows an error in intelligence. Powell lays it out pretty clear why Obama is a much better choice.
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This is the biggest blow delivered to the mcsame campaign yet, your republican military expert supporting the democratic party when your strongest point is the military. :o
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now the mega mega nasty politics will start... as if it couldn't get any worse, I know. Expect a huge news event to shift the headlines later today or tomorrow.
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Don`t be ignorant. Seriously. I don`t believe you really think that. If you do, it really shows an error in intelligence. Powell lays it out pretty clear why Obama is a much better choice.
I have tried to have a serious debate with many people about why they are voting for Obama....their main answer is "change". When I ask them to explain further, they can't. I don't know one black person who isn't voting for him (coincidence?) and a majority of people in my age range that aren't cops or military are voting for Obama.
What's funny is that people think that Obama will pull the troops from Iraq and their son/brother/husband will not be deployed ever again but they fail to realize that Obama has peacekeeping missions planned, like in Darfur, for all the soldiers and we saw how well that worked in Somalia and Kosovo.
I'm not a big fan of McCain either but I'm not planning on turning this country into a socialist entity.
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Don`t be ignorant. Seriously. I don`t believe you really think that. If you do, it really shows an error in intelligence. Powell lays it out pretty clear why Obama is a much better choice.
didn't you hear that radio show? where they when to brooklyn or the bronx and asked who the local black population would be voting? desite mixing up policys, the all said obama ::)
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I have tried to have a serious debate with many people about why they are voting for Obama....their main answer is "change". When I ask them to explain further, they can't. I don't know one black person who isn't voting for him (coincidence?) and a majority of people in my age range that aren't cops or military are voting for Obama.
What's funny is that people think that Obama will pull the troops from Iraq and their son/brother/husband will not be deployed ever again but they fail to realize that Obama has peacekeeping missions planned, like in Darfur, for all the soldiers and we saw how well that worked in Somalia and Kosovo.
I'm not a big fan of McCain either but I'm not planning on turning this country into a socialist entity.
it will be a change - a white president to a black one ::)
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didn't you hear that radio show? where they when to brooklyn or the bronx and asked who the local black population would be voting? desite mixing up policys, the all said obama ::)
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now the mega mega nasty politics will start... as if it couldn't get any worse, I know. Expect a huge news event to shift the headlines later today or tomorrow.
Sounds like NKorea's leader may have kicked the bucket.
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This was completely predictable.
RACE trumps everything, including common sense.
TA,
Will you please explain to him that the fear this event has caused is about something bigger than race.
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that was a well educated, well spoken young black male, who is a credit to his race and gives real reasons why he is voting for Obama.
However his father is a peadiatrician, and i doubt he lives in a ghetto. ::)
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I work for and with Muslims in Afghanistan. Great people and they pay me well. Something I cant get in the U.S. Guess the guys in that party think all Christains are good people and would never harm anyone. ::) Your religion race or nationality does not dictate your ability to do whats right or wrong.
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Powell is the most intelligent republican I can think of. He left the Bush Administration becasue of the shady antics. Done be surprised if Powell joines Obamas cabinet. Powell is the most respected person world wide in our military history...
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Something you guys that think its a color issue will fail to realise... Not that I am suprised on GetBig
Blacks are still a minority
Very few blacks vote
Very few blacks believe there will be a black president
Blacks have problems with each other that only blacks understand which would also prevent voting for Obama
Sad that people tend to focus on color rather than the fact that the man truely outshines McCain as a possible president
This being said by a dark skinned gentlemen...
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Something you guys that think its a color issue will fail to realise... Not that I am suprised on GetBig
Blacks are still a minority
Very few blacks vote
Very few blacks believe there will be a black president
Blacks have problems with each other that only blacks understand which would also prevent voting for Obama
Sad that people tend to focus on color rather than the fact that the man truely outshines McCain as a possible president
This being said by a dark skinned gentlemen...
i agree, but this does not change the fact that the majority of blacks are voting for obama because he is black.
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i agree, but this does not change the fact that the majority of blacks are voting for obama because he is black.
Same reason why some whites are voting against him.
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Same reason why some whites are voting against him.
i would say there are more blacks voting for obama because he's black, than there are whites voting for mccain because he's white.
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i agree, but this does not change the fact that the majority of blacks are voting for obama because he is black.
The number voting for Obama is only about 10 percent higher than the normal number of blacks that vote for dems. If there were some valid reason why blacks should switch parties to vote for McCain and were not because McCain is white then I would see the point... In the primary Blacks primarily supported Clinton early on and Obama had to convince them to switch...
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The number voting for Obama is only about 10 percent higher than the normal number of blacks that vote for dems. If there were some valid reason why blacks should switch parties to vote for McCain and were not because McCain is white then I would see the point... In the primary Blacks primarily supported Clinton early on and Obama had to convince them to switch...
True... Hillary was my pick. These guys just dont get it.
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i would say there are more blacks voting for obama because he's black, than there are whites voting for mccain because he's white.
Guess I will say it again... blacks are a minority as well as all the other points I mentioned
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Ok now u love Powell, he's the greatest right, yet u hate the war in Iraq. Powell made the case for war, in front of the UN. He had the slides showing the WMD locations right? I guess that doesn't matter to u because that doesn't fit into ur nice little picture huh? U libs want it both ways on every issue.
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Ok now u love Powell, he's the greatest right, yet u hate the war in Iraq. Powell made the case for war, in front of the UN. He had the slides showing the WMD locations right? I guess that doesn't matter to u because that doesn't fit into ur nice little picture huh? U libs want it both ways on every issue.
HH - your logic is truly bizzaro
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Huge coup for Obama. I listened to his interview. Very thoughtful. Colin Powell is a great American.
A couple of the things that will probably not get much play are (1) his reaffirmation of the decision to go into Iraq, but saying we didn't do it right (my sentiments exactly) and (2) his repeated statements that both men would make good presidents.
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Ok now u love Powell, he's the greatest right, yet u hate the war in Iraq. Powell made the case for war, in front of the UN. He had the slides showing the WMD locations right? I guess that doesn't matter to u because that doesn't fit into ur nice little picture huh? U libs want it both ways on every issue.
Powell has admitted his grave mistake. It pains him greatly that he bears the burden of many lives lost. It pains him greatly that others in his party would not listen after the war was proven to be a farce. I have read a few interviews with Powell as well as Bob Woodward`s book and it is clear to see where the rifts are in the Bush Administration and the Republican party. Rationalists vs Stubbornists. Powell wants to see the war brought to a close. Powell thought the intelligence that he was given was legit and sound only to find that it was all a pack of lies. He resigned and admitted the grave error. This speaks volumes of the man`s integrity and character. Scott Mclellan also showed this kind of integrity and character. Admit your mistakes, recognize an injustice even if it is within your own party.
I have always respected Powell.
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i would say there are more blacks voting for obama because he's black, than there are whites voting for mccain because he's white.
Actually no, the numbers work in McCains favour - run them yourself and see. With most studies having 30% of whites saying they won't vote for a black man, the meager 12% total black population of the USA is not enough mathematically speaking to overcome that even if they vote 100% as a block with 100% turnout, they can't overcome the sheer numbers. On matters of racial voting whether real or perceived, large beats small - pretty simple. Also, feel free to look back at past elections, and see the landslide 90% and higher of the black vote that most dem prez had in the past. And of course they were all white, blacks tend to vote dem simple.
But never let facts get in the way lol.
Huge coup for Obama. I listened to his interview. Very thoughtful. Colin Powell is a great American.
A couple of the things that will probably not get much play are (1) his reaffirmation of the decision to go into Iraq, but saying we didn't do it right (my sentiments exactly) and (2) his repeated statements that both men would make good presidents.
Thanks BB, feel free to expand, I know you think highly of Powell was interested to see what you thought.
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Actually no, the numbers work in McCains favour - run them yourself and see. With most studies having 30% of whites saying they won't vote for a black man, the meager 12% total black population of the USA is not enough mathematically speaking to overcome that even if they vote 100% as a block with 100% turnout, they can't overcome the sheer numbers. On matters of racial voting whether real or perceived, large beats small - pretty simple. Also, feel free to look back at past elections, and see the landslide 90% and higher of the black vote that most dem prez had in the past. And of course they were all white, blacks tend to vote dem simple.
But never let facts get in the way lol.
but its not only blacks that will be voting for obama, there are white too, who are educated on what he stands for, agree with his policies and feel he's the 2nd coming of jesus christ.
people should vote because they like the policies, not because they are the same colour. On seeing countless interviews it seems they ARE voting purely on the colour of his skin. :-\
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Actually no, the numbers work in McCains favour - run them yourself and see. With most studies having 30% of whites saying they won't vote for a black man, the meager 12% total black population of the USA is not enough mathematically speaking to overcome that even if they vote 100% as a block with 100% turnout, they can't overcome the sheer numbers. On matters of racial voting whether real or perceived, large beats small - pretty simple. Also, feel free to look back at past elections, and see the landslide 90% and higher of the black vote that most dem prez had in the past. And of course they were all white, blacks tend to vote dem simple.
But never let facts get in the way lol.
Thanks BB, feel free to expand, I know you think highly of Powell was interested to see what you thought.
I really can't argue with his decision. He highlighted some of the things about McCain that I have problem with (the overall way he has run his campaign). It is a little disjointed and lacks focus. I also think he feels burned by the Bush Administration (especially Rumsfeld) over the way the Iraq war was handled.
Powell did a good job of explaining why he is supporting Obama. It was not a kneejerk decision. Well thought out. He also pretty much said he is going to serve in an Obama administration (he doesn't want to serve, but will listen if asked).
If I had to decipher some of his comments, I'd say race did play a factor in his endorsement. That's what words like "transformational" mean to me. (I have a couple black friends who are voting for Obama in large part because he is half black.).
It's too bad Powell didn't run and/or that McCain couldn't get him on the ticket.
Although I still respect Powell a great deal, I don't agree with his decision. I just have too many philosophical differences with Obama.
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Ok now u love Powell, he's the greatest right, yet u hate the war in Iraq. Powell made the case for war, in front of the UN. He had the slides showing the WMD locations right? I guess that doesn't matter to u because that doesn't fit into ur nice little picture huh? U libs want it both ways on every issue.
I love that powell endorsed Obama but I think Powell has some permanent damage from his UN appearance. This is very redeeming though ;D and actually, it's been righties that love the hell out of him so I should say, extremely redeeming ;D :D ;D :D ;D
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I just have too many philosophical differences with Obama.
what, that he's a commie? ::)
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what, that he's a commie? ::)
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You wouldn't post anything like that right?
Corsi ::)
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=227502.msg3199290#msg3199290
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You wouldn't post anything like that right?
Corsi ::)
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=227502.msg3199290#msg3199290
Yawn. Keep searching. ::)
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Yawn. Keep searching. ::)
you posted this garbage, not me:
"BECK: OK. The thing that I do find about Barack Obama is that I think America is starting to catch on to this: this guy really is a Marxist. He believes in the redistribution of wealth. He believes in the global government and everything else. "
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you posted this garbage, not me:
"BECK: OK. The thing that I do find about Barack Obama is that I think America is starting to catch on to this: this guy really is a Marxist. He believes in the redistribution of wealth. He believes in the global government and everything else. "
So what. It doesn't prove whatever nonsensical point you were trying to make.
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So what. It doesn't prove whatever nonsensical point you were trying to make.
actually it was a question ;D
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actually it was a question ;D
It was actually just a dumb comment, followed by a couple of rambling posts. :)
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It was actually just a dumb comment, followed by a couple of rambling posts. :)
really, then you just called quite a few rightwingers here dumb because that's what they've been posting... You aided in posting the beck corsi interview... Now that's Dumb!!! ;)
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really, then you just called quite a few rightwingers here dumb because that's what they've been posting... You aided in posting the beck corsi interview... Now that's Dumb!!! ;)
O.K. ::)
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O.K. ::)
glad you agree ;D
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BOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SHOCK AND AWE ;D
wow, that's an amazing endorsement too. what he had to say was very powerful.
Given the state of affairs, it would be impossible for Powell to do otherwise.
What's said is that he had to explain his decision making process for the imbeciles out there.
Clearly there could have been no other choice.
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This was completely predictable.
RACE trumps everything, including common sense.
In your case, ...that appears to be the case. :-\
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didn't you hear that radio show? where they when to brooklyn or the bronx and asked who the local black population would be voting? desite mixing up policys, the all said obama ::)
Will you leave the US if Obama is elected?
Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Halperin: How the Powell Endorsement Boosts Obama
By Mark Halperin Sunday, Oct. 19, 2008
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In one of the most important symbolic moments of the general election, former Secretary of State Colin Powell announced today that he is endorsing Barack Obama for president. Making his decision public on NBC News' "Meet the Press," the long-time fixture in Republican administrations effectively reinforced the sense of momentum Obama has been building, declaring the Senator from Illinois as a "transformational figure." "I think that Senator Obama brings a fresh set of eyes, a fresh set of ideas to the table," said Powell. "I think we need a generational change, and I think Senator Obama has captured the feelings of the young people of America, and is reaching out in a more diverse, inclusive way across our society."
Sources say Obama courted Powell's support for well over a year, with private discussions that have largely involved policy consultations, but also some explicit pleas for support. Powell's neutrality up until now had worried some Republicans, and a possible nod for Obama has been rumored and discussed for months. Whenever he has been asked in public about Obama, Powell has had nothing but kind words but, before his appearnace on Meet the Press, always stopped short of a full endorsement.
The decision is not only symbolic but, in terms of timing, one of great tactical importance. Powell is a brand unto himself in American politics, and clearly transcends the media's tendency to hype endorsements more than their actual importance to voters. However, the indisputable benefit that Powell brings Obama is that the former Secretary of State and general is sure to block out any chance McCain has of winning the next two or three days of news coverage, as the media swoons over the implications of the choice. It is simple political math: McCain has 15 days to close a substantial gap, and he will now lose at least one fifth of his total remaining time.
Powell's decision brings other clear benefits as well. He is so trusted for his judgment on national security (even in the wake of his role in the current Iraq War) that his confidence in Obama to become commander-in-chief will resonate with many elites and voters. The Democrats' ability to play the Powell card for the next two weeks makes it much harder, even if there is an unexpected international crisis, for Republicans to suggest Obama simply isn't qualified to protect the country. Powell reinforced Obama's qualifications on "Meet the Press": "Senator Obama has demonstrated the kind of calm, patient, intellectual, steady approach to problem-solving that I think we need in this country."
If some voters still see Obama as a nebulous, unknown figure with questionable associations and liberal tendencies that makes them wary of voting for an African-American, Powell's decision may ease their minds. In some ways his image is the perfect complement to Obama's. Unlike the newly arrived Obama, Powell has been an establishment figure of vast experience in the national spotlight for well over a decade on military and international affairs, first as a career Army man, then in a variety of national security roles, culminating in his service as Secretary of State.
When Powell considered his own run for president in 1995, his political advisers found that there was an extraordinarily wide and deep well of support for the retired general as a political figure. In fact, by some standards, before Obama, Powell was the most successful African-American politician of the last two decades, without ever actually seeking elective office. Even after being tied to the Bush administration and its widely disliked foreign policy decisions, Powell has maintained extraordinary popularity, with nearly three quarters of Americans continuing to view him favorably, in part because he is perceived as a non-partisan figure, almost above politics.
Finally, Powell long ago cast his lot with the Republican Party, even though he is known to have disagreements with the GOP on some social issues. He has been a powerful speaker at party events, and one of the truly powerful symbols the party has had to deploy. His crossover endorsement is Obama's biggest yet from a Republican and fuels many of the Democrat's regular themes: Obama is the future and McCain the past; Obama — and his party — can be trusted on national security, Bush mishandled the Iraq conflict; and other Republicans (and independents) should be comfortable supporting the man from Illinois.
Powell will not become a full-throated partisan on Obama's behalf, but the two are now joined symbolically. It is most similar to Senator Edward Kennedy's endorsement of Obama over Hillary Clinton in February, which garnered extraordinary news coverage at a critical moment and broke the spirits of the opposition. Like Kennedy, Powell is a larger than life figure who commands a wide following. Powell says he will not campaign actively for Obama , but he does not need to. His words on Sunday were more than enough.
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but its not only blacks that will be voting for obama, there are white too, who are educated on what he stands for, agree with his policies and feel he's the 2nd coming of jesus christ.
people should vote because they like the policies, not because they are the same colour. On seeing countless interviews it seems they ARE voting purely on the colour of his skin. :-\
You are obviously hung up on skin colour.
I assume then you are horrified by all the racists voting for McCain, whites as he is white. Disgusting >:(
And damn those 18 million, most whom are white, who voted for Hillary, whites voting for whites >:(
Damn the last 432613 years when whites voted for whites >:(
It all amuses the living daylights out of me. People seem to have no understanding that the USA is in tremendous debt, highest in the world. The economy is crashing. Almost 1 million jobs lost this year. Car and house sales down. Record foreclosures. Ever looked where the US stands on rates of preventable death, child mortality, education performance, murder rates etc compared to the rest of the 1st world?
But people still care about skin colour haha, I love it ;D
PS: Thanks BB.
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You are obviously hung up on skin colour.
I assume then you are horrified by all the racists voting for McCain, whites as he is white. Disgusting >:(
And damn those 18 million, most whom are white, who voted for Hillary, whites voting for whites >:(
Damn the last 432613 years when whites voted for whites >:(
It all amuses the living daylights out of me. People seem to have no understanding that the USA is in tremendous debt, highest in the world. The economy is crashing. Almost 1 million jobs lost this year. Car and house sales down. Record foreclosures. Ever looked where the US stands on rates of preventable death, child mortality, education performance, murder rates etc compared to the rest of the 1st world?
But people still care about skin colour haha, I love it ;D
PS: Thanks BB.
hahahahaha calm down princess - i'm not hung up on skin colour in the slightest, but you seem to think its ok to vote based on skin colour rather than on policies - ok ::) That is disgusting.
When he fails to deliver on his promise of world peace, free money for all, blah blah blah - that all the idiots have been taken in by, and is voted out, will you claim its racism ::)
tell me do you honestly believe that obama will sort the economy, the unemployement, car and house sales, stop foreclosures, improve rates of preventable death, child mortality, education, and murder. ::)
outstanding brain washing if ever i have saw it.
He is NOT the 2nd coming of Jesus, he will NOT perform miracles.
He is a smooth talker who has gotten lucky that he's up against an old man who picked an idiot running mate.
keep taking those obama happy drugs and living in delusion.
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As Beach said last week, this endorsement definitely puts the proverbial nail in Sen. McCain's coffin. It's really going to be tough to overcome such an endorsement, especially with only 2 weeks left to go. The 507's or conservative PAC's are really going to have push hard in order to overcome these odds.
You never know what can happen though. You just never know.
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Am I the only person with half a brain cell here? Obama is going to give Powell a position in his cabinet, hence he is supporting him for office. If anyone buys Powells nonsense about being upset over some on the right attacking Obama's Muslim background or any of the other sentimental slop coming out of his mouth you really need your head examined.
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Am I the only person with half a brain cell here? Obama is going to give Powell a position in his cabinet, hence he is supporting him for office. If anyone buys Powells nonsense about being upset over some on the right attacking Obama's Muslim background or any of the other sentimental slop coming out of his mouth you really need your head examined.
I doubt that was the reason. You don't think McCain made the same offer?
Besides, Powell has already served three presidents. He has made money writing a book. He doesn't need the job or the money.
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McCain wanted to make him VP which he rejected. Also,theres no way a republican president was going to have Powell serve in a military capacity based on the way his relationship with this administration uncerminously ended, especially with the problems between him and Cheney. Dont you think it would bolster Obama's questionable creditbility in the foreign policy/ military arena to have someone like Powell on staff? It makes perfect sense. I mean dude, unless Powell is just endorsing Obama because hes black, why wait until less than two weeks before the election to go all over national TV and say what he said? Maybe its because he feels betrayed by the republican party and wants pay back. But regardless, he has to have an angle here.
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McCain wanted to make him VP which he rejected. Also,theres no way a republican president was going to have Powell serve in a military capacity based on the way his relationship with this administration uncerminously ended, especially with the problems between him and Cheney. Dont you think it would bolster Obama's questionable creditbility in the foreign policy/ military arena to have someone like Powell on staff? It makes perfect sense. I mean dude, unless Powell is just endorsing Obama because hes black, why wait until less than two weeks before the election to go all over national TV and say what he said? Maybe its because he feels betrayed by the republican party and wants pay back. But regardless, he has to have an angle here.
I take him at his word. He waited till after the debates. I do think race played a role (see my earlier comments), but I don't think that was the primary reason.
Yes Powell gives Obama a great deal of credibility. I think that's a good thing (if Obama wins). I'd feel far more comfortable with Powell serving in an Obama administration.
Powell really had nothing to gain by endorsing Obama. I think if he wanted a cabinet post, or needed the money, then we could make a reasonable argument that he had a vested interested in endorsing Obama. But I'm sure McCain offered to give him a spot in his administration.
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Am I the only person with half a brain cell here? Obama is going to give Powell a position in his cabinet, hence he is supporting him for office. If anyone buys Powells nonsense about being upset over some on the right attacking Obama's Muslim background or any of the other sentimental slop coming out of his mouth you really need your head examined.
The last thing I would believe is that Powell is motivated by an advisory posistion in Obama's admin... If you think that, you don't much about Powell. Powell did not do this for personal gain.
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I take him at his word. He waited till after the debates. I do think race played a role (see my earlier comments), but I don't think that was the primary reason.
Yes Powell gives Obama a great deal of credibility. I think that's a good thing (if Obama wins). I'd feel far more comfortable with Powell serving in an Obama administration.
Powell really had nothing to gain by endorsing Obama. I think if he wanted a cabinet post, or needed the money, then we could make a reasonable argument that he had a vested interested in endorsing Obama. But I'm sure McCain offered to give him a spot in his administration.
agree with most of your post. If race played a role in Powell's decision it was exactly what he noted about the direction of the republican party, he spoke directly on this. If supporting his race was that important over the years, he wouldn't have been a republican all this time.
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Powell did this for one of three reasons-- (A) For personal gain (B) Because hes black (c) Because he wants to kick the current administration in the balls right before the election
Take your pick. It might be all three. As former sec. of state Engleberger said on MSNBC this morning, he agrees with A and C. I also didn't know that by the end of Bush's first term he and Powell were barely on speaking terms.
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Powell did this for one of three reasons-- (A) For personal gain (B) Because hes black (c) Because he wants to kick the current administration in the balls right before the election
Take your pick. It might be all three. As former sec. of state Engleberger said on MSNBC this morning, he agrees with A and C. I also didn't know that by the end of Bush's first term he and Powell were barely on speaking terms.
Its amazing how all the former secretaries , generals and other high officials that support McCain are considered nothing but Powel is the best thing since sliced bread ::)
Talk about good propaganda....I gotta say one thing...the powers behind Hussein camp do a great job, massive media control and "donation" gathering....I think the people in the background should run instead of the lacking puppet they chose , seriously they show some great skills but a poor choice.
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i would say there are more blacks voting for obama because he's black, than there are whites voting for mccain because he's white.
And I would say that there are more voting for McCain because he is white, than anthing else. White people endorse and vote for one another alot, but if somehow a black person votes for a black person, it is assumed, that it is only for the reason he is black. Now for some, yes, let's say if it was Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton, those blacks who vote for them would be because, they are black, and because they believe in the "victim" rhetoric that they have perfected. Most black people know the game, and know that black politician will lie just as good as a white one, did you see Foxy Brown? ;D
Obama clearly outclasses McCain, and McCain picking Palin, who seems to have a knack for divisive speeches, at a time when we need to pull together. She is trying to pit Small Town vs. Big City, and that the Small Town people are more patriotic, when 911 happened to NYC, not Hickville, USA, when Katina happened to New Orleans, Louisiana, one of the oldest cities in the US, not Hazard County, with Beau and Luke Duke.
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I told you suckas Powell was voting for Obama. He's just making it public. ;)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27265490#27265490
YES..he endorses obama..BUT is still a republican .........HAHAHA...LOL... ..
its called ...marketing.....
FOOLS..
when someone says "they are still a republican" then its just a fabrication to the masses.....
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And I would say that there are more voting for McCain because he is white, than anthing else. White people endorse and vote for one another alot, but if somehow a black person votes for a black person, it is assumed, that it is only for the reason he is black. Now for some, yes, let's say if it was Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton, those blacks who vote for them would be because, they are black, and because they believe in the "victim" rhetoric that they have perfected. Most black people know the game, and know that black politician will lie just as good as a white one, did you see Foxy Brown? ;D
Obama clearly outclasses McCain, and McCain picking Palin, who seems to have a knack for divisive speeches, at a time when we need to pull together. She is trying to pit Small Town vs. Big City, and that the Small Town people are more patriotic, when 911 happened to NYC, not Hickville, USA, when Katina happened to New Orleans, Louisiana, one of the oldest cities in the US, not Hazard County, with Beau and Luke Duke.
Lets pull together under the lies of Hussein and the Democrats...lets hide behind their big umbrella of deception that directly caused this. Want proof? I have plenty of videos of UNBIASED facts including Obama and Clinton talking about their part and how the Republicans tried to stop it.
So no...no need to be together, there is a need to kick the shit to the curb and continue with the good people that truly fight for us.
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Lets pull together under the lies of Hussein and the Democrats...lets hide behind their big umbrella of deception that directly caused this. Want proof? I have plenty of videos of UNBIASED facts including Obama and Clinton talking about their part and how the Republicans tried to stop it.
So no...no need to be together, there is a need to kick the shit to the curb and continue with the good people that truly fight for us.
Dude, here's clue, Obama is the lesser of two evils for me. Plain and simple. I do agree with a lot of things he says, yet disagree as well. I disagree a lot what McCain has said, and what he stands for. And Basically, ALL POLITICIANS are the same, they all have kissed Satan's ring, so to speak. Repub and Dem, they had swtiched back in the day, but are virtually the same, so is the Third Party, Nader made a name for himself off of the Chevy Corvair, turns out, he didn't know what he was talking about, he was "Unsafe at any Speed".
The only people that can help us, are ourselves, if you are truly passionate about something, do you hire someone to fight for you, or do you battle on your own?
Americans are Weak fat, , pathetic, simple minded sheeple, who are concerned about getting the next big electronic gizmo, than truly changing the country. This weak mentality came from the Baby boom generation, and will continue.
So this rhetoric you speak, lets just cut thru the bullshit,it's nothing but fear, fear for a different or new direction, fear of a different opinion.
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Dude, here's clue, Obama is the lesser of two evils for me. Plain and simple. I do agree with a lot of things he says, yet disagree as well. I disagree a lot what McCain has said, and what he stands for. And Basically, ALL POLITICIANS are the same, they all have kissed Satan's ring, so to speak. Repub and Dem, they had swtiched back in the day, but are virtually the same, so is the Third Party, Nader made a name for himself off of the Chevy Corvair, turns out, he didn't know what he was talking about, he was "Unsafe at any Speed".
The only people that can help us, are ourselves, if you are truly passionate about something, do you hire someone to fight for you, or do you battle on your own?
Americans are Weak fat, , pathetic, simple minded sheeple, who are concerned about getting the next big electronic gizmo, than truly changing the country. This weak mentality came from the Baby boom generation, and will continue.
So this rhetoric you speak, lets just cut thru the bullshit,it's nothing but fear, fear for a different or new direction, fear of a different opinion.
I thought you forgot to separate this post, it start with how they all suck and fight for yourself and then it becomes Obama is the new Messiah.... ::)
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The fucking bullshit is getting deep now ::)
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The fucking bullshit is getting deep now ::)
The one that your might Pres.Clinton admitted? ;D
How I love you guys, going for something without ever looking at the facts....that if you believe you can do anything...you go man...!! ::)
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I thought you forgot to separate this post, it start with how they all suck and fight for yourself and then it becomes Obama is the new Messiah.... ::)
I never said that...didn't I say that "they all have kissed Satan's Ring"?
So no, he no Messiah...lesser of two evils...
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Moved by a Crescent
By MAUREEN DOWD
Colin Powell had been bugged by many things in his party’s campaign this fall: the insidious merging of rumors that Barack Obama was Muslim with intimations that he was a terrorist sympathizer; the assertion that Sarah Palin was ready to be president; the uniformed sheriff who introduced Governor Palin by sneering about Barack Hussein Obama; the scorn with which Republicans spit out the words “community organizer”; the Republicans’ argument that using taxes to “spread the wealth” was socialist when the purpose of taxes is to spread the wealth; Palin’s insidious notion that small towns in states that went for W. were “the real America.”
But what sent him over the edge and made him realize he had to speak out was when he opened his New Yorker three weeks ago and saw a picture of a mother pressing her head against the gravestone of her son, a 20-year-old soldier who had been killed in Iraq. On the headstone were engraved his name, Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan, his awards — the Purple Heart, the Bronze Star — and a crescent and a star to denote his Islamic faith.
“I stared at it for an hour,” he told me. “Who could debate that this kid lying in Arlington with Christian and Jewish and nondenominational buddies was not a fine American?”
Khan was an all-American kid. A 2005 graduate of Southern Regional High School in Manahawkin, N.J., he loved the Dallas Cowboys and playing video games with his 12-year-old stepsister, Aliya.
His obituary in The Star-Ledger of Newark said that he had sent his family back pictures of himself playing soccer with Iraqi children and hugging a smiling young Iraqi boy.
His father said Kareem had been eager to enlist since he was 14 and was outraged by the 9/11 attacks. “His Muslim faith did not make him not want to go,” Feroze Khan, told The Gannett News Service after his son died. “He looked at it that he’s American and he has a job to do.”
In a gratifying “have you no sense of decency, Sir and Madam?” moment, Colin Powell went on “Meet the Press” on Sunday and talked about Khan, and the unseemly ways John McCain and Palin have been polarizing the country to try to get elected. It was a tonic to hear someone push back so clearly on ugly innuendo.
Even the Obama campaign has shied away from Muslims. The candidate has gone to synagogues but no mosques, and the campaign was embarrassed when it turned out that two young women in headscarves had not been allowed to stand behind Obama during a speech in Detroit because aides did not want them in the TV shot.
The former secretary of state has dealt with prejudice in his life, in and out of the Army, and he is keenly aware of how many millions of Muslims around the world are being offended by the slimy tenor of the race against Obama.
He told Tom Brokaw that he was troubled by what other Republicans, not McCain, had said: “ ‘Well, you know that Mr. Obama is a Muslim.’ Well, the correct answer is, he is not a Muslim. He’s a Christian. He’s always been a Christian. But the really right answer is, what if he is? Is there something wrong with being a Muslim in this country? The answer’s no. That’s not America. Is something wrong with some 7-year-old Muslim-American kid believing that he or she could be president?”
Powell got a note from Feroze Khan this week thanking him for telling the world that Muslim-Americans are as good as any others. But he also received more e-mails insisting that Obama is a Muslim and one calling him “unconstitutional and unbiblical” for daring to support a socialist. He got a mass e-mail from a man wanting to spread the word that Obama was reading a book about the end of America written by a fellow Muslim.
“Holy cow!” Powell thought. Upon checking Amazon.com, he saw that it was a reference to Fareed Zakaria, a Muslim who writes a Newsweek column and hosts a CNN foreign affairs show. His latest book is “The Post-American World.”
Powell is dismissive of those, like Rush Limbaugh, who say he made his endorsement based on race. And he’s offended by those who suggest that his appearance Sunday was an expiation for Iraq, speaking up strongly now about what he thinks the world needs because he failed to do so then.
Even though he watched W. in 2000 make the argument that his lack of foreign policy experience would be offset by the fact that he was surrounded by pros — Powell himself was one of the regents brought in to guide the bumptious Texas dauphin — Powell makes that same argument now for Obama.
“Experience is helpful,” he says, “but it is judgment that matters.”
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Lets pull together under the lies of Hussein and the Democrats...lets hide behind their big umbrella of deception that directly caused this. Want proof? I have plenty of videos of UNBIASED facts including Obama and Clinton talking about their part and how the Republicans tried to stop it.
So no...no need to be together, there is a need to kick the shit to the curb and continue with the good people that truly fight for us.
I think its funny, this Republican party has been an ABSOLUTE DISASTER, broke laws, failed economy, 2 failed wars 5 Trillion in debt, Ignored Subpoenas, illegal wire tapping, illegal firing of State Attorneys, and you fuckers have the balls to blame democrats? Talk about FANTACY LAND... Tahts why you are going to loose the Senate, House and Presidency in 1 election
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Reverse Racism FTW!
ELECTRIFYING
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Colin Powell = final nail in McCain's coffin. :D
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Don't think so........
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Don't think so........
he put the nail when he slected a dumb bitch with tits
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Man we need more blacks like Powell. I've always liked him.
Anywho......Boom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
Come on Bro if your Black like me you know it's a black thing. As i grew up i had alot of White friends, and my black friends would say hey bro why you hanging around with those crackers, i came to believe that we were more prejudice than whites, even when 2 of my kin got locked up they would say that cracker put me here. I would say to myself really your ass put you there dummy. Most of us African Americans in the past
did't care who was running for president but now were all coming to vote and most of us don't know anything much that's really going on with him except he's black. His wife can't stand white people, and she could't stand Hillery Clinton and she wasen't going to have Barack pick her for VP even tho it would hav been a asy win if she was picked for VP. One thing i know i'm not a racist, and i'm oing for the man with experience. There are som true black Americans i can look up to and be proud, but how can i look up to people who speak of hate like Rev. Wright or some who are one sided like Rev.Al Sharpin and Farakhan and when i see the choices of types of people Obama has been friends with it makes me wonder, who is he really? But lived it and grew up with it i know how most of us think and white people don't have a clue. The slave days have been over with for hundreds of yrs and some act like it was yesterday.
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he put the nail when he slected a dumb bitch with tits
I would say it takes some intelligence to be a Mayor and then a Governor.
What a intelligent comment you made Busted link.
I'm sure she has more education than me our you put together.
If you don't like er that's cool with me but when you make a stupid comment like that it just
shows your IQ...................... zero
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I think its funny, this Republican party has been an ABSOLUTE DISASTER, broke laws, failed economy, 2 failed wars 5 Trillion in debt, Ignored Subpoenas, illegal wire tapping, illegal firing of State Attorneys, and you fuckers have the balls to blame democrats? Talk about FANTACY LAND... Tahts why you are going to loose the Senate, House and Presidency in 1 election
FANTACY LAND: A noun used as a form of hyperbole by public school students that went to school in Obama's district while he was a community organizer.
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its fantasy land guys :)
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Well...I'd rather have Powell than Obama or McCain.
I'd sure take a Powell-pres and Romney VP ticket!
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Come on Bro if your Black like me you know it's a black thing. As i grew up i had alot of White friends, and my black friends would say hey bro why you hanging around with those crackers, i came to believe that we were more prejudice than whites, even when 2 of my kin got locked up they would say that cracker put me here. I would say to myself really your ass put you there dummy. Most of us African Americans in the past
did't care who was running for president but now were all coming to vote and most of us don't know anything much that's really going on with him except he's black. His wife can't stand white people, and she could't stand Hillery Clinton and she wasen't going to have Barack pick her for VP even tho it would hav been a asy win if she was picked for VP. One thing i know i'm not a racist, and i'm oing for the man with experience. There are som true black Americans i can look up to and be proud, but how can i look up to people who speak of hate like Rev. Wright or some who are one sided like Rev.Al Sharpin and Farakhan and when i see the choices of types of people Obama has been friends with it makes me wonder, who is he really? But lived it and grew up with it i know how most of us think and white people don't have a clue. The slave days have been over with for hundreds of yrs and some act like it was yesterday.
Jimijimi, you ain't black...
No young black man uses the word "cracker" in 2008, especially one that has been locked up or is from "the streets". And Rev Wright, doesn't speak hate, if you were black, then you would be familiar with sermons like his. And his was quite tame, Martin and Malcolm X had sermons and speeches that were straight fire. In fact before Martin was shot he was about to deliver a controversial speech
Well...I'd rather have Powell than Obama or McCain.
I'd sure take a Powell-pres and Romney VP ticket!
Agreed. Powell would have been perfect.
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Come on Bro if your Black like me you know it's a black thing. As i grew up i had alot of White friends, and my black friends would say hey bro why you hanging around with those crackers, i came to believe that we were more prejudice than whites, even when 2 of my kin got locked up they would say that cracker put me here. I would say to myself really your ass put you there dummy. Most of us African Americans in the past
did't care who was running for president but now were all coming to vote and most of us don't know anything much that's really going on with him except he's black. His wife can't stand white people, and she could't stand Hillery Clinton and she wasen't going to have Barack pick her for VP even tho it would hav been a asy win if she was picked for VP. One thing i know i'm not a racist, and i'm oing for the man with experience. There are som true black Americans i can look up to and be proud, but how can i look up to people who speak of hate like Rev. Wright or some who are one sided like Rev.Al Sharpin and Farakhan and when i see the choices of types of people Obama has been friends with it makes me wonder, who is he really? But lived it and grew up with it i know how most of us think and white people don't have a clue. The slave days have been over with for hundreds of yrs and some act like it was yesterday.
Good post.
I was LMAO when I saw that video of Obama condemning Rev.Wright comments again...he says: Yes I heard him say it over and over for years but I condemn it so now everything is cool ::)
I wonder if McCain was a regular at a KKK meeting and then came and said he condemn it everyone would be so nice to him about it ::)
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Jimijimi, you ain't black...
No young black man uses the word "cracker" in 2008, especially one that has been locked up or is from "the streets". And Rev Wright, doesn't speak hate, if you were black, then you would be familiar with sermons like his. And his was quite tame, Martin and Malcolm X had sermons and speeches that were straight fire. In fact before Martin was shot he was about to deliver a controversial speech
Agreed. Powell would have been perfect.
LOL.........
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Powell looks like a complete jackass.
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I dont see much of Powell these days.I guess supporting an utter failure has taken its toll.
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I dont see much of Powell these days.I guess supporting an utter failure has taken its toll.
I bumped this for laughs at the obama fans' expense.
Yeah he's transformational alright. ::) ::)
Transforming a bad situation into a complete disaster while partying, drinking, golfing, and agitating like no one has ever seen before.
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Hahhhhaaaaaa!!!!! All the people who supported look like asses now. Espeacially the Republicans and Conservatives that supported them. I hope thier careers go down the toilet.
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Hahhhhaaaaaa!!!!! All the people who supported look like asses now. Espeacially the Republicans and Conservatives that supported them. I hope thier careers go down the toilet.
I have not even yet begun to fight.