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by Dr. Paul Cribb Ph.D. CSCS.
AST Director of Research
Grilled chicken causes cancer – now there’s a headline bound to make every bodybuilder look up from their dinner plate.... well almost every bodybuilder.
A new study published in Nutrition and Cancer this month shows that consumers are exposed to a known carcinogen when they consume grilled chicken.
One hundred samples from seven popular chain restaurants were analyzed by an independent laboratory, and PhIP, a known human carcinogen, was found in every sample.
PhIP forms when meat, especially chicken, is grilled or pan-fried at high temperatures, and, for more than a decade, it has been on the California governor's list of chemicals known to cause cancer. The carcinogen-containing grilled chicken samples, including salads, sandwiches, and entrées, were collected from McDonald's, Chick-fill-A, Chili's, TGI Friday's, Outback Steakhouse, Burger King, and Applebee's.
Maybe ol’ Cornel Sanders KFC isn’t looking too bad after all.
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Hint: Life causes cancer.
EVERYTHING causes cancer.
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how come I don't have cancer then? ::)
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I also read that rainbows cause skin cancer as well. :D
Everything causes cancer these days.
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The air is filled with polluants.
Breathing causes cancer!
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Hint: Life causes cancer.
EVERYTHING causes cancer.
Even peanut butter ???
:'(
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Consider yourself lucky is you maintain your health past 80 ;)
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Even peanut butter ???
:'(
Especially peanut butter :o
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Hint: Life causes cancer.
EVERYTHING causes cancer.
exactly
life is actually bad - you eventually die from it
;)
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exactly
life is actually bad - you eventually die from it
;)
lol, i say that all the time. ;D
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hahaha, you can tell El_Pajero is Dutch, because 'cancerwhores' is a litterally a translation from the Dutch word 'kankerhoeren', and means the same.
Geinig ouwe!
Peace
D
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hahaha, you can tell El_Pajero is Dutch, because 'cancerwhores' is a litterally a translation from the Dutch word 'kankerhoeren', and means the same.
Geinig ouwe!
Peace
D
::) ::)
El Pajero = Mars aka MArcel from Holland.
Everyone knows this.
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::) ::)
El Pajero = Mars aka MArcel from Holland.
Everyone knows this.
No he's not.
Hey dawakaman, wist niet dat jij ook een nederlander was.
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Getbig is becoming Getkaas.
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Jaja, er zitten hier meer Nederlanders dan je denkt, echt grappig!
Peace
D
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by Dr. Paul Cribb Ph.D. CSCS.
AST Director of Research
Grilled chicken causes cancer – now there’s a headline bound to make every bodybuilder look up from their dinner plate.... well almost every bodybuilder.
A new study published in Nutrition and Cancer this month shows that consumers are exposed to a known carcinogen when they consume grilled chicken.
One hundred samples from seven popular chain restaurants were analyzed by an independent laboratory, and PhIP, a known human carcinogen, was found in every sample.
PhIP forms when meat, especially chicken, is grilled or pan-fried at high temperatures, and, for more than a decade, it has been on the California governor's list of chemicals known to cause cancer. The carcinogen-containing grilled chicken samples, including salads, sandwiches, and entrées, were collected from McDonald's, Chick-fill-A, Chili's, TGI Friday's, Outback Steakhouse, Burger King, and Applebee's.
Maybe ol’ Cornel Sanders KFC isn’t looking too bad after all.
Yes, charcoaling the meat changes it to cancer-causing chemicals. But don't sweat it. Eating grilled chicken is the least of your concerns as far as developing cancer.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Cancer causes cancer... >:(
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Cancer causes cancer... >:(
It does. It's called methasthesis. A cancerous cell affects the functioning of a neighbor cell, damaging it's DNA and turning it into a cancer cell. This is why it is of paramount importance to remove any cancerous tissue from the body, to stop it from "infecting" other cells. IMO, cancer is the most common cause of death among pluricellular organisms besides being eaten by predators.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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why do we even care?
its not about how long you live, but how you live
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why do we even care?
its not about how long you live, but how you live
But eating a clean diet without junk foods, getting physical exercise and not smoking/drinking not only makes you live longer, but better too.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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i agree...but lets not get crazy
of course, if you live on fast food its not gonna make you feel great
but obsessing with calories and cancerogenic potentials of various foods is absurd
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Getbig is becoming Getkaas.
Vurdorie, zit ik tussen de mede-kaaskoppen :-X
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Duh, that's why I eat it raw.
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But eating a clean diet without junk foods, getting physical exercise and not smoking/drinking not only makes you live longer, but better too.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
no eating junk food and alcohol makes you live better. social life increase and you get laid more often. some tremendous benefits proven time after time.
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Great post, Bluto. 100% spot on.
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no eating junk food and alcohol makes you live better. social life increase and you get laid more often. some tremendous benefits proven time after time.
So having a beer belly and ugly skin filled with pustules and sores caused by the alcohol, as well as greying hair and precocious wrinkles caused both by the alcohol and junk food make you get laid more? Great logic there.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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So having a beer belly and ugly skin filled with pustules and sores caused by the alcohol, as well as greying hair and precocious wrinkles caused both by the alcohol and junk food make you get laid more? Great logic there.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
I don't know what clubs you visits, but the clubs I visit the people have neither beer bellys or ugly skin, greying hair or wrinkles.
Maybe they would get laid more and have a lot more fun in life if they sat at home every night with their protein powder?
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So having a beer belly and ugly skin filled with pustules and sores caused by the alcohol, as well as greying hair and precocious wrinkles caused both by the alcohol and junk food make you get laid more? Great logic there.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
yeah, dude, and nobody's talking about beer here - beer sucks ass
red bull and vodka, whiskey, Moet Champaign...;)
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So having a beer belly and ugly skin filled with pustules and sores caused by the alcohol, as well as greying hair and precocious wrinkles caused both by the alcohol and junk food make you get laid more? Great logic there.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
SMM, just ignore Bluto.
His only purpose on this board seems to be pissing off people. If you write "light", he writes "dark", only to piss you off.
Best way is to completely ignore the kid.
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His only purpose on this board seems to be pissing off people. If you write "light", he writes "dark", only to piss you off.
Forum trolling 101
Why Ron lets it continue let alone give the guy moderating privileges is beyond me...
Maybe it really is Ron's retarded cousin or something like that :-X
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Forum trolling 101
Why Ron lets it continue let alone give the guy moderating privileges is beyond me...
Maybe it really is Ron's retarded cousin or something like that :-X
I'll leave his posts up to show the whole board how annoying some posters are, and why sometimes we need to not edit but delete worhtless posts. The problem is that if we delete posts, we get accused of abuse, so I am leaving his posts up until the other posters request they are deleted because it is sickening them.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Forum trolling 101
Why Ron lets it continue let alone give the guy moderating privileges is beyond me...
Maybe it really is Ron's retarded cousin or something like that :-X
Problem is, Bluto doesn't act like a mod at all.
He has some people he doesn't like, so he either deletes their posts or is insulting them.
I can't understand Ron as well, i would have banned the little troll years ago.
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I'll leave his posts up to show the whole board how annoying some posters are, and why sometimes we need to not edit but delete worhtless posts. The problem is that if we delete posts, we get accused of abuse, so I am leaving his posts up until the other posters request they are deleted because it is sickening them.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Of course, because abuse is what it would be. You can't just go editing and deleting someones posts just because you find them annoying (meaning an opinion that is different from yours)
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Well let's get back to the subject, I find it funny how "suck my muscle" doesnt think grilled chicken and cancer is a problem, but he's all over the dangers of fish oil ::)
Sounds to me he just approves of things he likes the taste of and eat a lot, regardless of dangers, and other stuff he disapproves of (and refers to as "disgusting fats") he all of a sudden get really serious about the potential dangers with it... ::)
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gonna have a double portion of grilled chicken tonight
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gonna have a double portion of grilled chicken tonight
Sounds right... me I'm gonna have some fish oil with that and a few beers too!
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Sounds right... me I'm gonna have some fish oil with that and a few beers too!
add some brown rice pasta and i'm ready to go clubbing !
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Of course, because abuse is what it would be. You can't just go editing and deleting someones posts just because you find them annoying (meaning an opinion that is different from yours)
No, deleting your posts would not be abuse. Why? Because what you are doing is trolling. You are not giving a "different opinion" on nutrition - the topic that is discussed at this board - by saying that it is better to be at the club getting drunk than living a healthy lifestyle. You would be giving a different opinion if you claimed that grilled chicken does not cause cancer, and then proceeded to provide evidence for that. This is not a philosophy board where the goal is to discuss to meaning of life or the best way to pursue happiness, but a nutrition board. What you are doing is taking the thread completely off-topic and I am entitled to delete your posts if I wanted to. I will leave them up to show everyone what constitutes foolish behavior more becoming for a child than for a grown man.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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My post was ON-TOPIC about the positive things with both junkfood and alcohol.
No, it was completely off-topic. On topic would be discussing whether grilled chicken causes cancer or not, and proving evidence to support what you believe is true.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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No, it was completely off-topic. On topic would be discussing whether grilled chicken causes cancer or not, and proving evidence to support what you believe is true.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
" But eating a clean diet without junk foods, getting physical exercise and not smoking/drinking not only makes you live longer, but better too."
How's that for being OFF-topic? The thread went off-topic WAY before I posted in it.
Maybe you need to start deleting your OWN posts champ?
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no eating junk food and alcohol makes you live better. social life increase and you get laid more often. some tremendous benefits proven time after time.
Don't fool us, this was your first post.
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Ok, I have deleted the pleasant exchange between "DonkeyKong" and "Bluto". Take this to PM. Seriously. It is starting to piss me off. Stop bitch-slapping each other here. >:(
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Don't fool us, this was your first post.
Yes but as a response to a thread already going off-topic by among others moderator suck my muscle. There's a difference with making a thread go off-topic and just following the flow of a new direction already taken by a thread (especially when a moderator has gone off-topic and giving it the OK by doing so)
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" But eating a clean diet without junk foods, getting physical exercise and not smoking/drinking not only makes you live longer, but better too."
How's that for being OFF-topic? The thread went off-topic WAY before I posted in it.
Maybe you need to start deleting your OWN posts champ?
I was replying to your off-topic post. You made the first off-topic post, friend. But you are right: maybe I should delete my off-topic reply to your off-topic post, because replying to a troll is almost as bad as trolling.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I was replying to your off-topic post. You made the first off-topic post, friend. But you are right: maybe I should delete my off-topic reply to your off-topic post, because replying to a troll is almost as bad as trolling.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
No I did not, my first post was a response to YOUR post:
October 30, 2008, 02:09:08 AM »
my reply:
November 02, 2008, 09:14:02 AM »
Several days later.
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No I did not, my first post was a response to YOUR post:
October 30, 2008, 02:09:08 AM »
my reply:
November 02, 2008, 09:14:02 AM »
Several days later.
And whats with the name calling? I dont think that's suitable for a moderator, you got some nerve attacking me with your 160+ posts when I got almost THREE TIMES that many on this board. What you been doing all those years? 4,5 years on Getbig and you can't even get 200 posts on the very board you moderate? ???
How about you start putting some work into this board that doesnt consist of insulting and attacking the posters that done so much more than you ever done?
I am calling you a troll because you are. Several posters on this thread agree with me. And you are the one who has been insulting me from the beggining, criticizing my username, my number of posts, saying that I shouldn't be taken seriously, etc. As for numbers of posts, yours have very little quality while mine have great quality. I even had an "Ask Suckmymuscle" thread here some time ago because I received several PMs from posters asking. This discussion ends here. I will delete any posts that I consider a personal attack or trolling.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Yes but as a response to a thread already going off-topic by among others moderator suck my muscle. There's a difference with making a thread go off-topic and just following the flow of a new direction already taken by a thread (especially when a moderator has gone off-topic and giving it the OK by doing so)
Does it really matter who actually wend off-topic? There's also a difference between replying to a off-topic reply or simply ignoring it.
This is my last OT reply (in this thread ::))
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Does it really matter who actually wend off-topic? Ther's also a difference between replying to a off-topic reply or simply ignoring it.
This is my last OT reply (in this thread ::))
Your first post in this thread wasn't even in english:
"Vurdorie, zit ik tussen de mede-kaaskoppe"
I think you're the last person who should say something...
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No I did not, my first post was a response to YOUR post:
October 30, 2008, 02:09:08 AM »
my reply:
November 02, 2008, 09:14:02 AM »
Several days later.
No, the first off-topic post was made by you. I simply replied to your off-topic post. But you're right that I should have deleted both your post and my reply to it. Alas, it is too late.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Your first post in this thread wasn't even in english:
"Vurdorie, zit ik tussen de mede-kaaskoppe"
I think you're the last person who should say something...
Yeah it was a OT and innocent joke, please forgive me for that (duh). Come on, how serious should I take you?
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No, it was completely off-topic. On topic would be discussing whether grilled chicken causes cancer or not, and proving evidence to support what you believe is true.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
well, he replied to your off-topic post, classic pot 'n kettle
opposite opinions are the ingredients for a lively discussion my friend
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Yeah it was a OT and innocent joke, please forgive me for that (duh). Come on, how serious should I take you?
I forgive you !
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well, he replied to your off-topic post, classic pot 'n kettle
opposite opinions are the ingredients for a lively discussion my friend
I am glad we got that sorted! Now we need to get back at discussing grilled chicken !
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I am glad we got that sorted! Now we need to get back at discussing grilled chicken !
this is what i ate
* 1 1/2 Lbs Boneless Chicken
* 8 Oz Ranch Salad Dressing
* 1 Tsp Oregano
* 1 Tsp Basil
* 1 Tsp Fresh Black Pepper
* 1 Med Red Onion
* 8 Cherry Tomatoes
* 8 Large Mushrooms
* 2 C Cooked brown Rice
grilled as grilled can be
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Let's steam it!
(http://www.promopoints.nl/sis/custom/images/items/543%20261908.jpg)
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Let's steam it!
(http://www.promopoints.nl/sis/custom/images/items/543%20261908.jpg)
looks like salmon to me dude
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looks like salmon to me dude
Learn to visualize my friend ;D
BTW, I think grilling anything isn't really good for your health.
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well, he replied to your off-topic post, classic pot 'n kettle
opposite opinions are the ingredients for a lively discussion my friend
Saying that you would rather be drinking and partying at a club does not constitute a difference of opinion regarding the topic at hand, about whether grilled chicken causes cancer or not. Just for your information.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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no eating junk food and alcohol makes you live better. social life increase and you get laid more often. some tremendous benefits proven time after time.
I agree about the alcohol and social life. If people are happy they will live a better life. Counting the hours till your next protein shake is no way to live.
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ive heard that poaching meats is the best way to make em? what yall think of that?
when i make my chicken i put it in my stainless steel pan w/ some olive oil pam spray and cook it slowly...is it as bad as grilling?
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Saying that you would rather be drinking and partying at a club does not constitute a difference of opinion regarding the topic at hand, about whether grilled chicken causes cancer or not. Just for your information.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
you said the following ( which has nothing to do with the topic at hand )
But eating a clean diet without junk foods, getting physical exercise and not smoking/drinking not only makes you live longer, but better too.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
to which bluto replied
no eating junk food and alcohol makes you live better. social life increase and you get laid more often. some tremendous benefits proven time after time.
so basically he responded to your off-topic ( in regard to grilled chicken and cancer ) post