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Title: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: Kentucky_cowboy on October 21, 2008, 07:49:15 AM
I'm thinking of starting law school, I seem to be doing well on the LSAT practice exams and I have the grades to get into most average law schools, except I'm concerned about passing the bar exam after.  Is it difficult?  I would think that law school is structured such that if you're smart enough to make it through your degree then you should be able to tackle the bar exam.  Any thoughts?  And if you finish a law degree and can't pass your bar exam is your law degree practically useless?

Also, is being a lawyer an appropriate career for a bodybuilder?  Any pro bodybuilders who have a law background?
Title: Re: Law School
Post by: johnnynoname on October 21, 2008, 07:50:30 AM
have you ever read this forum?
Title: Re: Law School
Post by: BayGBM on October 21, 2008, 07:54:39 AM
And this is related to BB gossip, how?  ::)
Title: Re: Law School
Post by: Bluto on October 21, 2008, 07:56:36 AM
great thread you should post more often cowboy
maybe you can tell us about your battle with some indians
Title: Re: Law School
Post by: kh300 on October 21, 2008, 07:58:31 AM
so are you still in high school? if so whatever you think you'll be doing after college -you wont.
Title: Re: Law School
Post by: onlyme on October 21, 2008, 08:00:11 AM
I'm thinking of starting law school, I seem to be doing well on the LSAT practice exams and I have the grades to get into most average law schools, except I'm concerned about passing the bar exam after.  Is it difficult?  I would think that law school is structured such that if you're smart enough to make it through your degree then you should be able to tackle the bar exam.  Any thoughts?  And if you finish a law degree and can't pass your bar exam is your law degree practically useless?

Kind of sounds like Johnny Vegas has got a prodigy.
Title: Re: Law School
Post by: Kentucky_cowboy on October 21, 2008, 08:03:25 AM
And this is related to BB gossip, how?  ::)

My bad, will fix that for you
Title: Re: Law School
Post by: Kentucky_cowboy on October 21, 2008, 08:05:34 AM

Ask Paul Hupp, LLB.  :D

Who is he?
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: elite_lifter on October 21, 2008, 08:06:00 AM
JV is one of those extended getbig "business trips" ! ;D
Title: Re: Law School
Post by: Kentucky_cowboy on October 21, 2008, 08:06:50 AM
so are you still in high school? if so whatever you think you'll be doing after college -you wont.

If I was still in high school I probably would not have said I was taking practice LSAT tests right? ;)
Title: Re: Law School
Post by: erokyrwrld on October 21, 2008, 08:07:07 AM
Don't do it. The loans you will likely have to take out will far exceed what the market will pay you in your first 5-10 years of working.  About 5 years ago, when the economy first started going really down, law school applications tripled as no one was able to find work with just an undergrad degree.  As a result, class sizes grew astronomically and there are now more law students than lawyers!  This means the job market is completely oversaturated and just finding a job that pays something is hard for most.  Very few get the cushy jobs.  And...its just getting worse.  I graduated top 5, with law review, a published article, and an appellate court clerkship and I had to resort to a dinky small firm to make ends meet.  Thankfully I had a full ride, so loans aren't an issue.

On the other hand, my fiance is graduating this year and has loans whose repayment amount is going to be more than our mortgage.  If she can find a job at all in the current market, it won't pay enough to pay her minimum monthly amount.

More to the point, law school for me was easy, for her its difficult.  Depends on your ability to think logically and problem solve.  The bar exam is an endurance test and was easily passable for me (I passed 2 different states my first year out), but for her I think she may not have such an easy time.

Just for a point of reference, I went to a state school undergrad, she went to ivy league school. I did poorly undergrad, she did great.  There is no predicting factor.
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: erokyrwrld on October 21, 2008, 08:10:28 AM
Being at a small firm, I have the ability to eat when ever I want and I am able to hit the gym everyday.  But, I don't have any family obligations.

Most of my friends do not have the time to hit the gym even a couple times per week because their jobs require very long hours or they have families who require their presence sometimes. It depends on your situation.

That being said, I have been practicing for about 6 years now, and have not run into a single other lawyer who I thought carried more muscle than me.  And I am fairly small. 5'7", ~200lbs.  The field is not conducive to the lifestyle.

Title: Re: Law School
Post by: elite_lifter on October 21, 2008, 08:12:15 AM
Don't do it. The loans you will likely have to take out will far exceed what the market will pay you in your first 5-10 years of working.  About 5 years ago, when the economy first started going really down, law school applications tripled as no one was able to find work with just an undergrad degree.  As a result, class sizes grew astronomically and there are now more law students than lawyers!  This means the job market is completely oversaturated and just finding a job that pays something is hard for most.  Very few get the cushy jobs.  And...its just getting worse.  I graduated top 5, with law review, a published article, and an appellate court clerkship and I had to resort to a dinky small firm to make ends meet.  Thankfully I had a full ride, so loans aren't an issue.

On the other hand, my fiance is graduating this year and has loans whose repayment amount is going to be more than our mortgage.  If she can find a job at all in the current market, it won't pay enough to pay her minimum monthly amount.

More to the point, law school for me was easy, for her its difficult.  Depends on your ability to think logically and problem solve.  The bar exam is an endurance test and was easily passable for me (I passed 2 different states my first year out), but for her I think she may not have such an easy time.

Just for a point of reference, I went to a state school undergrad, she went to ivy league school. I did poorly undergrad, she did great.  There is no predicting factor.
Good info but I dont think the thread starter actually gives a shit, you're new here so its ok. BTW, my wife got a job two months after graduating Law School and is doing quite nicely so your theory is not exactly solid.
Title: Re: Law School
Post by: SAMSON123 on October 21, 2008, 08:12:35 AM
I'm thinking of starting law school, I seem to be doing well on the LSAT practice exams and I have the grades to get into most average law schools, except I'm concerned about passing the bar exam after.  Is it difficult?  I would think that law school is structured such that if you're smart enough to make it through your degree then you should be able to tackle the bar exam.  Any thoughts?  And if you finish a law degree and can't pass your bar exam is your law degree practically useless?

It is good that you are looking into a PLAN B should you not make it in LAW...So far as the BAR EXAM goes..

As long as you know how to make the most popular drinks, the BAR EXAM should be easy. Here is a site that lists of the most common drinks and recipes a bartender must know how to make in order to pass the test...

http://www.barnonedrinks.com/drinks/by_category/

GOOD LUCK

Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: Tre on October 21, 2008, 08:14:54 AM
I'm thinking of starting law school, I seem to be doing well on the LSAT practice exams and I have the grades to get into most average law schools, except I'm concerned about passing the bar exam after.  Is it difficult?  I would think that law school is structured such that if you're smart enough to make it through your degree then you should be able to tackle the bar exam.  Any thoughts?  And if you finish a law degree and can't pass your bar exam is your law degree practically useless?

Also, is being a lawyer an appropriate career for a bodybuilder?  Any pro bodybuilders who have a law background?

Thought about law school, but when my business began to grow rapidly - coupled with my ex-wife's refusal to move to Columbia or Austin - I ended up not doing it.

I now study law 3 hours a day with the help of Judges Greg Mathis, Joe Brown, and Marilyn Milian.  I occasionally consult with Judge Judy.

Needless to say, I now know everything needed to build a thriving practice in the ghetto or a trailer park.   :D
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: 240 is Back on October 21, 2008, 08:29:17 AM
I'd love to go to law school and still think I might do it in 5 years.
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: Kentucky_cowboy on October 21, 2008, 09:06:29 AM
Thanks for all the info erokyrwrld, I always thought as a lawyer it would not be difficult to repay student loans, while as a substitute teacher it would be unless you live with your mother or something.
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: windsor88 on October 21, 2008, 09:10:10 AM
Thanks for all the info erokyrwrld, I always thought as a lawyer it would not be difficult to repay student loans, while as a substitute teacher it would be unless you live with your mother or something.

lol
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: HBeef on October 21, 2008, 09:18:45 AM
I'm thinking of starting law school, I seem to be doing well on the LSAT practice exams and I have the grades to get into most average law schools, except I'm concerned about passing the bar exam after.  Is it difficult?  I would think that law school is structured such that if you're smart enough to make it through your degree then you should be able to tackle the bar exam.  Any thoughts?  And if you finish a law degree and can't pass your bar exam is your law degree practically useless?

Also, is being a lawyer an appropriate career for a bodybuilder?  Any pro bodybuilders who have a law background?

Where do I begin???

A law degree ( LLB ) will take you 3 years and 6 months after you are eligible to write the bar ( keep in mind John Kennedy Jr failed it twice. )The bar is a comprehensive test of your knowledge of the law and one needs to pass it in the state where they will practice.

Most grads with an LLB will get hiered on to a firm prior to writing the bar ( marks are the issue to getting a job ) and the firm's partners will give you a hand / insight as to what to expect. Now, what factors into getting hiered on with a firm are things like criminal convertions ( felony ) such as contributing to the delinquency of a minor and issues along these lines.

PH LLB

P.S. Having a law degree and not practicing is not useless, it makes you self important and a hell of a GetBig poster. My Mom's calling she needs to use the phone so I have to go. Hope this helps
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: Tre on October 21, 2008, 09:24:01 AM
Where do I begin???

A law degree ( LLB ) will take you 3 years and 6 months after you are eligible to write the bar ( keep in mind John Kennedy Jr failed it twice. )The bar is a comprehensive test of your knowledge of the law and one needs to pass it in the state where they will practice.

Most grads with an LLB will get hiered on to a firm prior to writing the bar ( marks are the issue to getting a job ) and the firm's partners will give you a hand / insight as to what to expect. Now, what factors into getting hiered on with a firm are things like criminal convertions ( felony ) such as contributing to the delinquency of a minor and issues along these lines.

PH LLB

P.S. Having a law degree and not practicing is not useless, it makes you self important and a hell of a GetBig poster. My Mom's calling she needs to use the phone so I have to go. Hope this helps

Even with the misspellings, this is one of the best posts ever.

Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: HBeef on October 21, 2008, 09:25:22 AM
I'd love to go to law school and still think I might do it in 5 years.

Over you head, young man. Your MBA from Gulf State is a B.S. An MBA from that school is not taken seriously as it is  not an accredited university. Third rate at best.

I suggest you put your MBA ( cough ) to use by sitting at home and building clone web sites for a good price . . . let's say $299.99

PH LLB
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: HBeef on October 21, 2008, 09:28:35 AM
Even with the misspellings, this is one of the best posts ever.



Spelling??? Give me a break. I m studing for the bar ( still ,) I've got my Mom on my ass and I need to call my probation officer.

Spelling means shit to a lawyer.

PH LLB
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: Wiggs on October 21, 2008, 09:38:41 AM
I ditched that plan.  Another three years of school and not having a life.... fuck that.
I'm getting my Masters in Economics.
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: Kentucky_cowboy on October 21, 2008, 09:44:58 AM
I ditched that plan.  Another three years of school and not having a life.... fuck that.
I'm getting my Masters in Economics.

Are you suggesting that with a masters in economics you will not have to live with your mother in order to repay your student loans?
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: 240 is Back on October 21, 2008, 11:05:38 AM
Over you head, young man. Your MBA from Gulf State is a B.S. An MBA from that school is not taken seriously as it is  not an accredited university. Third rate at best.

While I agree my MBA is nowhere near as valuable as one from a top business school, Florida Gulf Coast University is AACSB International accredited.

http://www.fgcu.edu/cob/accreditation/am.html
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: Ursus on October 21, 2008, 12:41:51 PM
I am also John Goudy LLB :)

Never chose to practise it though who knows in the future i may decide otherwise
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: coltrane on October 21, 2008, 12:49:07 PM
I took and passed the NY State bar.  Studied for 2.5 months straight... hard as shit to pass, but well worth it in the end.  Ny and Cali are the hardest bars to pass in the country.

My advice:

--only go to law school if you wanna be a lawyer.  don't go for just to go.  it is hard work but managable.
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: 240 is Back on October 21, 2008, 01:00:27 PM
I'll sell you mine for $65,000.  That's more than 50% off what you'd pay for it if you went today.  What do you say?

Will you accept my BS in elementary ed as part of payment?
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: Earl1972 on October 21, 2008, 01:50:52 PM
I'm thinking of starting law school, I seem to be doing well on the LSAT practice exams and I have the grades to get into most average law schools, except I'm concerned about passing the bar exam after.  Is it difficult?  I would think that law school is structured such that if you're smart enough to make it through your degree then you should be able to tackle the bar exam.  Any thoughts?  And if you finish a law degree and can't pass your bar exam is your law degree practically useless?

Also, is being a lawyer an appropriate career for a bodybuilder?  Any pro bodybuilders who have a law background?

pm "suckmymuscle" he's a lawyer and benched 610lbs :)

E
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: divcom on October 21, 2008, 03:16:49 PM

My wife has a PhD in economics, and she never lived with her mother.  On the other hand, Wiggs isn't as smart as she is.  But, he IS black, so he should be able to slide into some affirmative action program on his meager talents, especially with Obama in office.   ;)

nope...we just grad at the top 5% of our classes via hard work.  2 degrees (chem+bio) undergrad while working 2 jobs. mba/ph.d. pac 10 coming up next. 

Affirmative Action - Vanilla’s excuse for brown people who perform

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/107/255687247_8f7e2d5c27.jpg)

Got Cheese?   ;)
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: Kentucky_cowboy on October 21, 2008, 03:27:22 PM
Where do I begin???

A law degree ( LLB ) will take you 3 years and 6 months after you are eligible to write the bar ( keep in mind John Kennedy Jr failed it twice. )The bar is a comprehensive test of your knowledge of the law and one needs to pass it in the state where they will practice.

Most grads with an LLB will get hiered on to a firm prior to writing the bar ( marks are the issue to getting a job ) and the firm's partners will give you a hand / insight as to what to expect. Now, what factors into getting hiered on with a firm are things like criminal convertions ( felony ) such as contributing to the delinquency of a minor and issues along these lines.

PH LLB

P.S. Having a law degree and not practicing is not useless, it makes you self important and a hell of a GetBig poster. My Mom's calling she needs to use the phone so I have to go. Hope this helps

Mr. Hupp LLB, what exactly do you mean by contributing to the delinquency of a minor?  What can this include? 

Also, in your opinion what is more effective between having being an LLB versus CSN MFT?

Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: divcom on October 21, 2008, 03:34:55 PM
Over you head, young man. Your MBA from Gulf State is a B.S. An MBA from that school is not taken seriously as it is  not an accredited university. Third rate at best.

I suggest you put your MBA ( cough ) to use by sitting at home and building clone web sites for a good price . . . let's say $299.99

PH LLB

oh...boy!  you forgot to tell him that you are better than him.  that's the new line of getdumb's elite and successful.  dont bump your head against a wall, might forget everything you have learned.  then...his mba will be worth more than you jd.   
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 21, 2008, 05:12:16 PM
I'm thinking of starting law school, I seem to be doing well on the LSAT practice exams and I have the grades to get into most average law schools, except I'm concerned about passing the bar exam after.  Is it difficult?  I would think that law school is structured such that if you're smart enough to make it through your degree then you should be able to tackle the bar exam.  Any thoughts?  And if you finish a law degree and can't pass your bar exam is your law degree practically useless?

Also, is being a lawyer an appropriate career for a bodybuilder?  Any pro bodybuilders who have a law background?

Bar exam is not that hard.  I passed it the first time.  Law school is a great education, but not a guaranteed hhigh income salary. 

If you want to make wall street type money, go to wall street.  Go to law school for the right reasons and know what you are getting into first. 

Being a lawyer is not like tv.  Its tons and tons of paperwork and dealing with crazy people all day fighting over money.
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: Wiggs on October 21, 2008, 05:14:53 PM
Are you suggesting that with a masters in economics you will not have to live with your mother in order to repay your student loans?

GI Bill Baby.  I get paid to go school ;D

School is fully covered and I get a housing allowance and $1000 semester for books. ;D
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: HBeef on October 22, 2008, 04:22:50 AM
oh...boy!  you forgot to tell him that you are better than him.  that's the new line of getdumb's elite and successful.  dont bump your head against a wall, might forget everything you have learned.  then...his mba will be worth more than you jd.   

It's LLb, not JD ( Juris Doctor ) son.

PH LLB
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: HBeef on October 22, 2008, 04:52:26 AM
Mr. Hupp LLB, what exactly do you mean by contributing to the delinquency of a minor?  What can this include? 

Also, in your opinion what is more effective between having being an LLB versus CSN MFT?



These are good questions. I thank you for showing me respect by addressing me as Mr. Hupp. " I'm sure I deserve it."

Contributing to the delinquency of a minor is defined as any action by an adult that allows or encourages illegal behavior by a person under the age of 18, or that places children in situations that expose them to illegal behavior. Contributing to the delinquency of a minor can be as simple as keeping a child home from school and thus, making the child a truant. It also can manifest itself in more serious behavior. For example, an adult who commits a crime in the presence of a child can be charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor, as can an adult who serves alcoholic beverages to anyone under the legal drinking age. Still more egregious is sexual exploitation, which could include having sexual relations with minors or engaging in the production or trafficking of Child Pornography

So you can see it could be as simple as a misdemeanor or as significant as a felony ( trust me I know this, I'm a lawyer.)

With respect to CSN and MFT I am unfamiliar with these acronyms so I goggled them and here is what I got ( see attachment. ) Although nothing is clear by the search the best I can figure is CSN = Certified Stupid N _ _ _ _ R and MFT = Mentally fucked Tool.

Hope this helps.

PH LLB
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: garebear on October 22, 2008, 04:54:05 AM
GI Bill Baby.  I get paid to go school ;D

School is fully covered and I get a housing allowance and $1000 semester for books. ;D

Are you in Illinois?
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: HBeef on October 22, 2008, 04:54:44 AM
While I agree my MBA is nowhere near as valuable as one from a top business school, Florida Gulf Coast University is AACSB International accredited.

http://www.fgcu.edu/cob/accreditation/am.html

It's not Michigan State, son

PH LLB
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: divcom on October 22, 2008, 06:07:09 AM
It's LLb, not JD ( Juris Doctor ) son.

PH LLB

This seems important to you on a message board.

So…you have a LL.B. which you got right after high school.  That’s the way it can go esp in London which would give it a lower value vs a jd (JD – Juries Doctorate ).  Therefore…in the US you probably can’t compete with a jd (JD – Juries Doctorate) for positions…equally.

In other words 240 can find a job quicker with his 3rd-tier mba (MBA) vs your llb (sorry…LL.B.) in the states. 

I know you know more and are better than me…son.    That’s a common theme on getbig these days.
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: 240 is Back on October 22, 2008, 06:10:55 AM
Is Florida Gulf Coast University really a 3rd tier school?  I'm being serious here.  It's a state school, one of 11 I think.  It's AACSB accreditted, which I believe only 25% of business schools attain.  Is there some ranking so I can see where it lands? I know it's not top 100 by any means, but 3rd tier?  The King Kamali of MBAs?  Ouch!
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: divcom on October 22, 2008, 06:27:31 AM
Is Florida Gulf Coast University really a 3rd tier school?  I'm being serious here.  It's a state school, one of 11 I think.  It's AACSB accreditted, which I believe only 25% of business schools attain.  Is there some ranking so I can see where it lands? I know it's not top 100 by any means, but 3rd tier?  The King Kamali of MBAs?  Ouch!

The pt is my MBA/Ph.D. will be Big12/Pac10...but you've been about to write your own ticket with your education.  That being said...given the number of clients you have so far...you could probably charge more than $300.  I'm sure that works within your plans.

Too many a$$es on this site trying call people out these days.  Wasnt like this in the old days.
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: 240 is Back on October 22, 2008, 06:30:21 AM
The 300 number only works for getbiggers and their friends :)  Local companies get a link to my mirrored site, where they pay 600 and get a visit from me for materials, which requires a little legwork. 
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: BayGBM on October 22, 2008, 07:06:27 AM
Is Florida Gulf Coast University really a 3rd tier school?  I'm being serious here.  It's a state school, one of 11 I think.  It's AACSB accreditted, which I believe only 25% of business schools attain.  Is there some ranking so I can see where it lands? I know it's not top 100 by any means, but 3rd tier?  The King Kamali of MBAs?  Ouch!

Yes, it is.  The truth is, as a state, Florida is not serious about funding education and it shows; this is true in K-12 public schools as well.   :'(

Think of it this way: much of the wealth in FL is held by people who moved to the state at or near retirement.  Many people's parents and grandparents live in Florida.  This is a population of people whose children, for the most part, are already grown.  Their children were likely educated up North or otherwise out of state.  Accordingly, this mature population (who vote and have a lot of political power) is less inclined to see the value in paying higher taxes to fund things like education.

The people in FL with children who need a good public education are effectively politically impotent.  They tend to be poor, or immigrants from Latin America, the Caribbean, etc.  For the most part, the parents of these children are not politically active so they essentially "take what they get" when it comes to public schools.  

With few exceptions, the universities in FL are in the lower bottom half with regard to quality, academic rigor, reputation, pay, etc.  I am not saying any of this to be mean spirited; it is simply a fact.  One of my best friends is on the faculty at FGCU; we both went to grad school near Boston and eventually came to FL for personal reasons.  For a time, I worked at two universities in FL.  

Having experienced higher education in other parts of the country, I would not allow any young person in my family to attend a FL university.  I love FL and still have lots of family there; but all the K-12 kids in my family attend private schools.  At one school, the tuition for Pre-Kindergarten is $16,840. For grades 1-5 it is higher; for grades 6-8 it is even higher; and for grades 9-12 tuition is $20,600.  I have personally inspected each of the schools my nieces/nephews attend to ensure the quality.  We have all agreed that when the time comes, none of the family children will go to a Florida university.

Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: 240 is Back on October 22, 2008, 07:16:13 AM
Wow.  I knew the FL public k-12 system was terrible... I taught for 6 years.  Bummer about the college system though.
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: QuakerOats on October 22, 2008, 07:19:08 AM
Yes, you went to the "King Kamali of business schools".


Take it from someone who went to "Ronnie Coleman U".   On the other hand, it's just a piece of paper, highly useful for opening doors when you're just starting out, but of marginal value beyond that, especially if you're not in the "corporate world".  At this point I use mine mainly to impress people on message boards.  ;D
where did you go to school?
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: 240 is Back on October 22, 2008, 07:20:41 AM
Yes, you went to the "King Kamali of business schools".

Take it from someone who went to "Ronnie Coleman U".   On the other hand, it's just a piece of paper, highly useful for opening doors when you're just starting out, but of marginal value beyond that, especially if you're not in the "corporate world".  At this point I use mine mainly to impress people on message boards.  ;D

LOL... sweet... I'm 3rd tier greatness.  Magna Cum Laude or Bust!
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: BayGBM on October 22, 2008, 07:30:11 AM
Wow.  I knew the FL public k-12 system was terrible... I taught for 6 years.  Bummer about the college system though.

It is very rare to have underfunded, poorly performing K-12 schools and first class public universities in the same state.  Remember, in both cases, the money comes from the public.  If you knew the public K-12 school systems were bad then by extension you should have known the public colleges were also bad.
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: 240 is Back on October 22, 2008, 07:37:04 AM
It is very rare to have underfunded, poorly performing K-12 schools and first class public universities in the same state.  Remember, in both cases, the money comes from the public.  If you knew the public K-12 school systems were bad then by extension you should have known the public colleges were also bad.

I guess that makes sense.  I never really thought about it that way.  I knew that I wanted to stay in FL for family, convenience, etc, and I knew that I'd be working here too.  Can't stand the snow...
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: Wiggs on October 22, 2008, 08:59:58 AM
Are you in Illinois?

Las Vegas
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: HBeef on October 22, 2008, 09:31:07 AM
This seems important to you on a message board.

So…you have a LL.B. which you got right after high school.  That’s the way it can go esp in London which would give it a lower value vs a jd (JD – Juries Doctorate ).  Therefore…in the US you probably can’t compete with a jd (JD – Juries Doctorate) for positions…equally.

In other words 240 can find a job quicker with his 3rd-tier mba (MBA) vs your llb (sorry…LL.B.) in the states. 

I know you know more and are better than me…son.    That’s a common theme on getbig these days.


If you had any fucken idea as to what you were talking about I'd go into this in detail. One needs an undergrad degree and exceptional scores on the L.S.A T's to even get into a good Law school.

I am a Lawyer and a teacher.

PH LLB
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: onlyme on October 22, 2008, 09:34:12 AM
If you had any fucken idea as to what you were talking about I'd go into this in detail. One needs an undergrad degree and exceptional scores on the L.S.A T's to even get into a good Law school.

I am a Lawyer and a teacher.

PH LLB

If you are a lawyer what firm do you work for or when did you pass the bar.  Or are you saying because you graduated from law school you are a lawyer.  Also, where do you teach and what subject.  Why did you close down your Johnnyvegas account or stop posting under that name when you still come back here and spew shit.  Just wondering.  Also, are you representing Titus since you are such a great lawyer and have all the inside info on bodybuilding
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: HBeef on October 22, 2008, 09:34:31 AM
Wow.  I knew the FL public k-12 system was terrible... I taught for 6 years.  Bummer about the college system though.

Taught for 6 years . . . BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GET A JOB AND STAY OFF OF YOUR COMPUTER . . . 26,000 posts and how many under MANY gimmick accounts?

PH LLB
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: HBeef on October 22, 2008, 09:38:43 AM
If you are a lawyer what firm do you work for or when did you pass the bar.  Or are you saying because you graduated from law school you are a lawyer.  Also, where do you teach and what subject.  Why did you close down your Johnnyvegas account or stop posting under that name when you still come back here and spew shit.  Just wondering.  Also, are you representing Titus since you are such a great lawyer and have all the inside info on bodybuilding

Listen you fat bastard, your one of biggest liars on this site. One day it's  " yes I have money " look at the view from my place in Hawaii and now it's I did  in the 80's and 90's . . . your a broke fool.

Your not even man enough to pay a kid a $100 bet you lost. NOT MAN ENOUGH!!!!

SO DROP DEAD PORKEY.

PH LLB
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: HBeef on October 22, 2008, 09:50:14 AM
The pt is my MBA/Ph.D. will be Big12/Pac10...but you've been about to write your own ticket with your education.  That being said...given the number of clients you have so far...you could probably charge more than $300.  I'm sure that works within your plans.

Too many a$$es on this site trying call people out these days.  Wasnt like this in the old days.

Again? Again?

We put up with rob's two month long drama calling Bob Chick every name in the book. It was hard to follow when our resident MBA ( oh yeah Goat has one too  ::)) and insightful intellect used his mastery of the English language to communicate phrases like " take it back, " and " you called me names "

How soon we forget.

PH LLB
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: onlyme on October 22, 2008, 10:00:37 AM
Listen you fat bastard, your one of biggest liars on this site. One day it's  " yes I have money " look at the view from my place in Hawaii and now it's I did  in the 80's and 90's . . . your a broke fool.

Your not even man enough to pay a kid a $100 bet you lost. NOT MAN ENOUGH!!!!

SO DROP DEAD PORKEY.

PH LLB

Hey watch it fake lawyer you might bust your keyboard.  Why can't you just face it.  You are to stupid to pass the bar plain and simple.  You are a fake and thats it.  You are a loser who lives at home has his mom fix him meals and washes your clothes.  I bet she makes you make your bed before you can start playing on the internet.  What time does she tell you to go to bed.  Dude you are the epitome of a loser.  You have not done a thing but be a burden on your mom.  Go back to work at McDonalds and help her pay the bills.  Filing lawsuits against people you will never win is a waste of time.  Face it Paul you are a HUGE LOSER.  I gotta say you could even be more of a loser than Goodrum and that is fucking hard to do.  At least he is getting fucked even it is by a ugly skinny white dude
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: HBeef on October 22, 2008, 10:02:30 AM
Hey watch it fake lawyer you might bust your keyboard.  Why can't you just face it.  You are to stupid to pass the bar plain and simple.  You are a fake and thats it.  You are a loser who lives at home has his mom fix him meals and washes your clothes.  I bet she makes you make your bed before you can start playing on the internet.  What time does she tell you to go to bed.  Dude you are the epitome of a loser.  You have not done a thing but be a burden on your mom.  Go back to work at McDonalds and help her pay the bills.  Filing lawsuits against people you will never win is a waste of time.  Face it Paul you are a HUGE LOSER.  I gotta say you could even be more of a loser than Goodrum and that is fucking hard to do.  At least he is getting fucked even it is by a ugly skinny white dude

BE a fucken and anwser the question of the kids $100 bucks once and for all. BE A FUCKEN MAN keith.

PH LLB
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: erokyrwrld on October 22, 2008, 10:07:35 AM
Onlyme, you should know that US hasn't recognized LLBs since the late 1800's.  The professional degree given to lawyers in the US is a JD (juris doctorate).  Canada, England, and a few other common law countries still recognize the LLB, but obviously, this guy has nothing relevant to say regarding the practice of law in the US.
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: HBeef on October 22, 2008, 10:09:28 AM
The 300 number only works for getbiggers and their friends :)  Local companies get a link to my mirrored site, where they pay 600 and get a visit from me for materials, which requires a little legwork. 


So anyone who is industrious enough to open and run a company can't figure out how to open an account at GetBig and get 50% off of your services.

It's obvious you studied marketing.

PH LLB
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: HBeef on October 22, 2008, 10:12:19 AM
Onlyme, you should know that US hasn't recognized LLBs since the late 1800's.  The professional degree given to lawyers in the US is a JD (juris doctorate).  Canada, England, and a few other common law countries still recognize the LLB, but obviously, this guy has nothing relevant to say regarding the practice of law in the US.

And what you should know also ASSCLOWN is that through academic association anyone holding an LLB can be given the JD retroactively if applied for.

Another shit for brains punk.

PH LLB
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: onlyme on October 22, 2008, 10:18:30 AM
And what you should know also ASSCLOWN is that through academic association anyone holding an LLB can be given the JD retroactively if applied for.

Another shit for brains punk.

PH LLB

yadayadayada no matter what you are NOT a lawyer and I doubt you will ever become one.  Can't you just move out of the house go and move into one of those halfway houses for failed college grads.  And do you leave shit stains on your underwear for your mom to clean.  You should be ashamed of yourself.  You are 45+ years old live at home, don't work and play on the internet and have nothing going for you except a few hopeless battles on Getbig.  Have you considered just jumping.
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: HBeef on October 22, 2008, 10:41:03 AM
I never subscribed to the " cause your fat you are dumb scenario." There might be truth in it . . . CAN YOU READ YOU FAT RETARD???? 

BE A MAN AND ANWSER THE QUESTION. WHAT ABOUT THE KIDS $100 BUCKS YOU OWE HIM???

BE A FUCKEN MAN!!!

PH LLB
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: 240 is Back on October 22, 2008, 11:45:35 AM
Taught for 6 years . . . BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

it's true.  1998 thru 2004, give or take.  I burned out, went back to school, got AS in computer networking, then back to college for the MBA.  I admit I'm an underachieving hump.
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: HBeef on October 22, 2008, 09:58:19 PM
it's true.  1998 thru 2004, give or take.  I burned out, went back to school, got AS in computer networking, then back to college for the MBA.  I admit I'm an underachieving hump.

Ye syou are a hump, and BULL SHIT TO THE TEACHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PH LLB
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: 240 is Back on October 22, 2008, 10:04:37 PM
Ye syou are a hump, and BULL SHIT TO THE TEACHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PH LLB

Honestly, if I was going to lie, I'd come up with something a lot more impressive than elementary school teacher.  Was a waste of 8 or 9 years, the time I spent doing the last 2 years of BS degree and then the time I spent teaching.  I knew in my 1st year that I hated it, but didn't know what to do with myself.  Bumped around community college for a few years earning computer certs (MCSE, A+, net+ then failed cisco).  Then found the MBA.

Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: elite_lifter on October 22, 2008, 10:09:51 PM
Honestly, if I was going to lie, I'd come up with something a lot more impressive than elementary school teacher.  Was a waste of 8 or 9 years, the time I spent doing the last 2 years of BS degree and then the time I spent teaching.  I knew in my 1st year that I hated it, but didn't know what to do with myself.  Bumped around community college for a few years earning computer certs (MCSE, A+, net+ then failed cisco).  Then found the MBA.


and now look at you, changing fuckin diapers all day!! ::)
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: 240 is Back on October 22, 2008, 10:10:36 PM
and now look at you, changing fuckin diapers all day!! ::)

little man is just about potty trained.
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: elite_lifter on October 22, 2008, 10:12:18 PM
little man is just about potty trained.
ship the brat off to nursery school so you can have a hot bitch come over while your wife is at work to give you a rub down
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: 240 is Back on October 22, 2008, 10:13:44 PM
ship the brat off to nursery school so you can have a hot bitch come over while your wife is at work to give you a rub down

I like the way you think.  I feel ambitious for the first time in years!

I'll post cell phone jpegs when i do.
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: onlyme on October 22, 2008, 10:25:34 PM
And what you should know also ASSCLOWN is that through academic association anyone holding an LLB can be given the JD retroactively if applied for.

Another shit for brains punk.

PH LLB

hahahaah there is NO firm that would hire your punk ass cause you don't know shit.  You can't even defend yourself on a bodybuilding board.  Dude get a job at a grocery store or something.  Start paying your mom rent.
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: onlyme on October 22, 2008, 10:28:16 PM
I wonder how long it is going to take Keith to realize "Paul Hupp LLB" is a gimmick?  ::)

I know it is not him but guaranteed he is reading this shit.  He is a pussy who couldn't handle getting cross-examined on an internet board, how in the hell could he ever make it in a courtroom.
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: disco_stu on October 22, 2008, 11:35:18 PM
law is for people who are ok with putting precedent and protocol ahead of common sense, judgement and morals.

if you are ok with that, then go for it.

personally i would step on a drowning lawyer to save a politician.

Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: MarvinEderFan on October 23, 2008, 06:22:04 AM
I'm in law school and still train 5+ times/week.... and never skip on my diet. It can definitely be done.
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: disco_stu on October 23, 2008, 12:03:01 PM
great...just what we need- another lawyer.

Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: MarvinEderFan on October 23, 2008, 05:03:44 PM
great...just what we need- another lawyer.



I pretty much hate most of the people I study with, due to  lack of morals. Hope that helps.
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: Howard on October 23, 2008, 05:07:17 PM
I'm thinking of starting law school, I seem to be doing well on the LSAT practice exams and I have the grades to get into most average law schools, except I'm concerned about passing the bar exam after.  Is it difficult?  I would think that law school is structured such that if you're smart enough to make it through your degree then you should be able to tackle the bar exam.  Any thoughts?  And if you finish a law degree and can't pass your bar exam is your law degree practically useless?

Also, is being a lawyer an appropriate career for a bodybuilder?  Any pro bodybuilders who have a law background?

Not sure where you are exactly, but I was accepted to Chase at N Ky 2o yrs ago and didn't go.
It is a great career but will take most of your time in school and later as assoc. in any firm.
I enjoy the lifestyle as HS physics teacher and have for 20 yrs.
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: Kentucky_cowboy on October 23, 2008, 05:57:12 PM
I enjoy the lifestyle as HS physics teacher and have for 20 yrs.

Interesting - is that substitute teaching?

Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: Howard on October 23, 2008, 08:14:06 PM
Interesting - is that substitute teaching?


No full time
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: elite_lifter on October 23, 2008, 08:20:37 PM
No full time
Can't stay away from those little girls! >:( You are sick Howard!!!
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: Howard on October 23, 2008, 08:56:51 PM
Can't stay away from those little girls! >:( You are sick Howard!!!
cute reply :D
what do you have for an encore?
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: elite_lifter on October 23, 2008, 08:59:17 PM
cute reply :D
what do you have for an encore?
Does it get any worse than lusting after prepubescent girls :o, Your school needs to know about you HOWARD!!!
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 24, 2008, 07:44:14 AM
law is for people who are ok with putting precedent and protocol ahead of common sense, judgement and morals.

if you are ok with that, then go for it.

personally i would step on a drowning lawyer to save a politician.



Everyone hates lawyers until you need one. 

BTW - mozst predecent is set by common sense if you take time to read the common law.

Dont look at the most bizarre cases as being the norm, its not.  most of those cases are just for entertainment.  Most law is very boring and mundane.
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: disco_stu on October 24, 2008, 12:56:59 PM
I pretty much hate most of the people I study with, due to  lack of morals. Hope that helps.

yeah- you know it does help.

i hope you can find a job that allows you to think for yourself and perhaps allows you to lose the cases you should lose..if you know what i mean.

one thing about lawyers that really annoys me is the win at all costs approach.

everybody deserves a fair hearing and representation, but lawyers who try all the tricks to get someone off who shouldnt- be ruin the the profession.

dont get me started on judges.

Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: Ursus on October 24, 2008, 01:17:52 PM
haha i hated my class so much

Bunch of dorks and arrogants fucks
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: wavelength on October 24, 2008, 01:22:04 PM
yeah- you know it does help.

i hope you can find a job that allows you to think for yourself and perhaps allows you to lose the cases you should lose..if you know what i mean.

one thing about lawyers that really annoys me is the win at all costs approach.

everybody deserves a fair hearing and representation, but lawyers who try all the tricks to get someone off who shouldnt- be ruin the the profession.

dont get me started on judges.

The problem is, as soon as something goes to court (no agreement between the two parties), the end result is pretty much arbitrary.
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: Ursus on October 24, 2008, 01:33:52 PM
correct...decisioons can be made on the basis on whether or not the judge had a good cup of coffee that morning
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: wavelength on October 24, 2008, 01:50:21 PM
correct...decisioons can be made on the basis on whether or not the judge had a good cup of coffee that morning

I know a few judges and I can only pray I never end up in court.
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: Busted on October 24, 2008, 02:55:56 PM
Cowboys from kentucky cant past the the G.E.D test, let alone the LSAT
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: Camel Jockey on October 24, 2008, 03:12:06 PM
I'm finishing up my B.A. in Accounting, and will need to get a masters too to sit for the CPA exam. Can't take it without 150 credit hours.

I wanna do the Masters at NYU, but I dunno if I'll be able to put up a 690 GMAT score though.  :-X
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: Howard on October 24, 2008, 03:54:24 PM
Does it get any worse than lusting after prepubescent girls :o, Your school needs to know about you HOWARD!!!
Look dude come up with so new wisecracks this one is as old as the crust on your underwear.
Having said that if it floats your boat , sail on.
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: elite_lifter on October 24, 2008, 03:56:12 PM
Look dude come up with so new wisecracks this one is as old as the crust on your underwear.
Having said that if it floats your boat , sail on.
Just for you im going to dig up your post to that little girl you wanted to email you.
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: Howard on October 24, 2008, 03:58:39 PM
Just for you im going to dig up your post to that little girl you wanted to email you.
whatever  ;)
Dude go get layed, you have way too much pent up sexual energy.
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: elite_lifter on October 24, 2008, 04:00:31 PM
whatever  ;)
Dude go get layed, you have way too much pent up sexual energy.
Nervous, you should be! And don't worry about my sex life I get plenty of sex from my wife Howard, bman2000@yahoo.com! ;D
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: Howard on October 24, 2008, 04:07:20 PM
Nervous, you should be! And don't worry about my sex life I get plenty of sex from my wife Howard, bman2000@yahoo.com! ;D
aaaaaaahhh, go ahead and try that email and  bug whoever it is.
If you have a good sex life with your wife , well, then hooray.
If you want to keep posting crap about me , fine, it is your call, it is a free board and you can do whatever.
This is an internet bodybuilding board , most come on here for shits and giggles and some bodybuilding mixed in.
I don't see the pt, but you decide and do what makes ya happy.
Good luck, Howard
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: elite_lifter on October 24, 2008, 04:10:10 PM
aaaaaaahhh, go ahead and try that email and  bug whoever it is.
If you have a good sex life with your wife , well, then hooray.
If you want to keep posting crap about me , fine, it is your call, it is a free board and you can do whatever.
This is an internet bodybuilding board , most come on here for shits and giggles and some bodybuilding mixed in.
I don't see the pt, but you decide and do what makes ya happy.
Good luck, Howard
Thats your e-mail Howard!
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: Howard on October 24, 2008, 04:13:08 PM
Thats your e-mail Howard!
Dude if you want to believe that ,fine, knock yourself out and send 1,000,000 emails to it then and see what happens . Sorry pal but I don't want to play with you any more, so I am taking my ball and going home.
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: elite_lifter on October 24, 2008, 04:15:54 PM
Dude if you want to believe that ,fine, knock yourself out and send 1,000,000 emails to it then and see what happens . Sorry pal but I don't want to play with you any more, so I am taking my ball and going home.
Why do you follow in your fathers footsteps. The children in the world would be better off!
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: garebear on October 25, 2008, 05:01:58 AM
Damn it, elite lifter and Howard! Can't you see that you two love each other?
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: Howard on October 25, 2008, 12:06:40 PM
Damn it, elite lifter and Howard! Can't you see that you two love each other?
LOL yes it appears to be a lovers spat, we need a gay version of Dr Phil to get back the love :P
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: Tom Cruise on October 25, 2008, 12:22:14 PM
I'm thinking of starting law school, I seem to be doing well on the LSAT practice exams and I have the grades to get into most average law schools, except I'm concerned about passing the bar exam after.  Is it difficult?  I would think that law school is structured such that if you're smart enough to make it through your degree then you should be able to tackle the bar exam.  Any thoughts?  And if you finish a law degree and can't pass your bar exam is your law degree practically useless?

Also, is being a lawyer an appropriate career for a bodybuilder?  Any pro bodybuilders who have a law background?

This sounds like a marvelous idea.
Title: Re: Law School and Bodybuilding
Post by: Megalodon on October 25, 2008, 12:43:35 PM
Bodybuilding and Legal 'crossover' terms such as ''approaching the bench'' and ''passing the bar'' can be potentially disorienting to the prospective bodybuilder/barrister.  :P