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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Training Q&A => Topic started by: Royalty on October 21, 2008, 09:39:29 AM
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Under Grip Barbell Rows
Corner T-Bar Rows
Over Grip Barbell Rows
One Arm Dumbell Rows
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Over Grip Barbell Rows.
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under grip bb rows. I get a better contraction and can use more weight. It just feels more natural to me.
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None there.
I'd have to say two arm dumbell row.
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None there.
I'd have to say two arm dumbell row.
Charles Glass is a fan of those :)
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Under Grip Barbell Rows
Corner T-Bar Rows
Over Grip Barbell Rows
One Arm Dumbell Rows
use them all hit the back in different angles and keep the body guessing I prefer old school barbell rows the best
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I personally like underhanded grip.
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all of them except the t bars, t bars pull on my spine in a painful way so i don't do 'em.
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all of them except the t bars, t bars pull on my spine in a painful way so i don't do 'em.
They don't really bother my spine but they've never felt right to me.
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They don't really bother my spine but they've never felt right to me.
funny thing is it's only with the close seated row handle grip, the old style bolted to the floor t bars didn't bother me at all, i think the really close grip pulls on my spine in a weird way, i love both versions of barbell rows and db rows.
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as a main exercise...barbell rows(overhand) and dumbbell rows (one at a time) dominate. i like t bar rows as a second exercise. man i love rows.
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funny thing is it's only with the close seated row handle grip, the old style bolted to the floor t bars didn't bother me at all, i think the really close grip pulls on my spine in a weird way, i love both versions of barbell rows and db rows.
I've got a really bad back (gotten a lot worse since my hand surgeries) so I've give up on Barbell Rows but I've actually started doing them with the cables. Obviously I'm not using really heavy weights but I feel them a lot & get a great pump.
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Probably tbar rows. All are good IMO.
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None there.
I'd have to say two arm dumbell row.
what is a two arm dumbell row ???
i can't believe there is an excercise i have never heard of :o
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Under Grip Barbell Rows
Corner T-Bar Rows
Over Grip Barbell Rows
One Arm Dumbell Rows
For "Lats" I like the Under Grip Barbell Rows and Dumbbell Rows.
The Over Grip BB Rows work more rear delts and the "Old School" T-Bar Rows usually have too close of a grip and use too much Biceps.
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I LOVE the old school t-bar's i can use lots of weight and my back gets sooooooooooooo pumped
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T-bars, barbell in the corner. I feel them a lot more than BB rows. Everyone is different though...
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One arm dumbell row and supported chest row :
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For me, medium curl grip BB rows. Bring the bar into the gut each rep, try holding there for a few seconds. Also have done this curl grip when doing DB one arm rows.
When doing the half row, half Hi-pulls BB movement (just cheating rows for want of a better name...most guy's can use a lot more weight in these), I use a overhand medium grip. Good power and thickness builder for me, anyway. Good Luck.
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cable rows did shit to my monstrous back.
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I hate t-bar rows. All teh others are awesome movements though.
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One arm DB rows
Underhand BB rows
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i just figured out what a two arm dumbell row is - duh :(
quite simple really :-[
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for those that dont like the T-Bar Row due to excessively narrow grip....
on Jay Cutlers Latest DVD he trains at Muscle Beach and He uses this handle (which is a bit wider but may be a bit less stable)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/see_bay/IMG_0121.jpg)
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for those that dont like the T-Bar Row due to excessively narrow grip....
on Jay Cutlers Latest DVD he trains at Muscle Beach and He uses this handle (which is a bit wider but may be a bit less stable)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/see_bay/IMG_0121.jpg)
that's still too close for me.
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BB rows LEAST effective AND most stressful on lower back muscles.
T-bars-the real deal not a bar in the corner, supported-back DB/BB rows, hammer rows, etc.
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T-bars-the real deal not a bar in the corner
so you use the T-Bar row machine?
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so you use the T-Bar row machine?
I personally much prefer the bar-in-the-corner way. Feels more comfortable and i can move more weight.
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I personally much prefer the bar-in-the-corner way. Feels more comfortable and i can move more weight.
Exactly
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that's still too close for me.
You must be a beast :o got any pics ?
;D ;)
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Under Grip Barbell Rows
Corner T-Bar Rows
Over Grip Barbell Rows
One Arm Dumbell Rows
dude, all of them work...back is a region with complexly intertwined musles, so hitting it from as many angles with as many variation as possible is best
one-arm rows work great for making the lat longer (therefore wider frame) - i combine them w/ t-bar and reverse close grip bbell rows - works really well
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You must be a beast :o got any pics ?
;D ;)
;D
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so you use the T-Bar row machine?
Just the one KSA shows-the angles and leverage are better than when using a bar in the corner, which isn't as stable on either end, though a triangle attachment's pretty stable. With the real one you can change the center of gravity, the leverage and angle by leaning back or forward, and can also use more force without worrying about it coming loose. Plus there are more grip selections which makes a difference. The intensity applied by leverage when using a grip that's farther away from the weight, as shown there magnifies the intensity on the muscle.
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after stubbornly performings bb rows for years despite feeling very little, because they were the most "hardcore" and all the "legends" built their backs with it, i eventually took a leap of faith and discarded it earlier this year.
I replaced them with hammer style chins, performs after my deads and my back has never been as good
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overhand bb rows combined with high reps - 15-20 - give a really nice pump....
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after stubbornly performings bb rows for years despite feeling very little, because they were the most "hardcore" and all the "legends" built their backs with it, i eventually took a leap of faith and discarded it earlier this year.
I replaced them with hammer style chins, performs after my deads and my back has never been as good
Smart, f--- what the book says go with what works. Various widths of hammer grip chins and pulldowns are no. 1 in my book.
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Underhand BB rows and DB rows, all in the 8-10 range. Any more reps and it's seems like my rear delt takes over? ???
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dumbbell rows I feel are the most effective row.. BUT..that's why there's so many rowing options and exercises, what works for one person doesn't always work for another. Try them all and go with the ones you feel put the most emphasis on the target area you're trying to work i.e. upper, mid, lower back, whatever...
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T-bar w/bar in corner althought I prefer the ones bolted to the floor but my gym doesn't have one.
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Underhand BB rows and DB rows, all in the 8-10 range. Any more reps and it's seems like my rear delt takes over? ???
Where are you pulling the bar into?
Its its high up, ie to your chest or just below then the rear delts are engaged more i believe
Try pulling lower into the stomach - i ve done sets of 15-20 reps and the onus is still on teh lats.
Any higher and i start to really feel it in my arms!
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I haven't done BB rows in a few months now and i doubt i will do them again. I now realise that i much prefer t-bars and realised i've been wasting my time with BB rows. Just never felt "right"...